| 4 x Vision 14.07.2011 08:14 |
sorry if old, but just listened to Back To Storm on DaveF's YT account and thought it was quite cool. Is there any other info about this song, cos he doesn't seem to know if it's from The Works for definite? link |
| Holly2003 14.07.2011 08:30 |
Never heard this before. Surely the small piece of lyrics that are identifiable are "You're coming on far too strong" and not "Back to Storm", which doesn't make any sense. |
| rhyeking 14.07.2011 10:18 |
I agree. It sounds much more like "coming on far too strong" or possibly "much too strong." If it was recorded, as the YouTube post suggests, a little after The Works sessions ended (January '84), that would likely place it between January and July. Freddie was in the studio a lot recording Mr. Bad Guy tracks during that time, "Thank God It's Christmas" was recorded in the summer of 1984 and Queen Works! Tour started in late August. If the time period is correct, there's the window of opportunity. |
| Pim Derks 14.07.2011 10:29 |
I wonder how stuff like this leaks. As far as I know this has not been played by Greg Brooks on a convention so I guess it must have a different source? |
| Silversaw 14.07.2011 10:48 |
Any chance of getting a torrent of this one??? I see there is a 2:00 minute demo version and a short piano demo version...that would be great if someone could put them on here!!! |
| Micrówave 14.07.2011 13:49 |
Interesting how Brooks and other sources of unreleased Queen songs completely missed this one. There's a lot more out there that we don't know about.... which is probably why you have to take The Archivist with a grain of salt. |
| Thistle 14.07.2011 18:37 |
Holly2003 wrote: Never heard this before. Surely the small piece of lyrics that are identifiable are "You're coming on far too strong" and not "Back to Storm", which doesn't make any sense. ============================================================================================= I can definitely hear the words "back to storm" in there. As for the Piano demo, I reckon it's fake - it sounds like the same track with the vocals turned down (there are definitely vocal leaks....). |
| bluephoenix 15.07.2011 01:00 |
The Piano demo is real! reminds me alot of the demo for Keep passing the open window |
| pittrek 15.07.2011 02:19 |
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| 4 x Vision 15.07.2011 03:58 |
Thanks Pittrek for that info... do you know if Peter Freestone has any other similar demos? |
| Back2TheLight 15.07.2011 05:06 |
Peter Freestone? Oh wow...can't believe he leaked this one out! |
| Holly2003 15.07.2011 06:30 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Holly2003 wrote: Never heard this before. Surely the small piece of lyrics that are identifiable are "You're coming on far too strong" and not "Back to Storm", which doesn't make any sense. ============================================================================================= I can definitely hear the words "back to storm" in there. As for the Piano demo, I reckon it's fake - it sounds like the same track with the vocals turned down (there are definitely vocal leaks....). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Try listening to it after you;ve turned your bagpipes down ya Scottish numpty! ;) Seriously, it sounds VERY like "coming on far too strong" to me. What would "back to storm" mean? I suppose it doesn;t make any difference since it's nothing but a bunch of ad libs. |
| Fastidious and Precise 15.07.2011 06:37 |
Having listened to it very closely and at some volume I have to veer in the direction of "coming on far to strong". makes more sense as well. anyway fuck it it's just nice to hear something new!! |
| Thistle 15.07.2011 09:03 |
Holly2003 wrote: Try listening to it after you;ve turned your bagpipes down ya Scottish numpty! ;) Seriously, it sounds VERY like "coming on far too strong" to me. What would "back to storm" mean? I suppose it doesn;t make any difference since it's nothing but a bunch of ad libs. ============================================================================================= You leave my bagpipes alone! Once you've taken the tatties out yer ears, you'll find it's "back to storm" :) As for the Piano demo being "instrumental", why are there vocal leaks? Seriously, listen carefully, you can still hear some feint ad-libs in there, around 0.31... RE the meaning if the lyrics...could "storm" be a person? Or would a storm blow hot and cold???? |
| FriedChicken 15.07.2011 09:24 |
Well... It sounds like the 'Little Boogie' version was recorded on a consumer tape recorder. That could mean it was recorded at Freddie's house. So probably he was just playing around with this idea he had, while mumbling some melody lines. |
| FriedChicken 15.07.2011 09:25 |
And thanks for sharing David, that's very generous! :-) |
| mooghead 15.07.2011 11:41 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Holly2003 wrote: Never heard this before. Surely the small piece of lyrics that are identifiable are "You're coming on far too strong" and not "Back to Storm", which doesn't make any sense. ============================================================================================= I can definitely hear the words "back to storm" in there. As for the Piano demo, I reckon it's fake - it sounds like the same track with the vocals turned down (there are definitely vocal leaks....). Thought the same, maybe the piano 'demo' is lifted from the multitrack |
| bluephoenix 15.07.2011 11:52 |
anyone willing to share the tracks? :D |
| FriedChicken 15.07.2011 12:01 |
Well, David just did.. |
| people on streets 15.07.2011 12:54 |
From a legal point of view, this is interesting. After the recent sharing of the BBC recordings over here I wonder if QPL would mind if this and other tracks will be shared in lossless format with proper lineage. I also wonder if they have a copy of this and the previously leaked rare Freddie recordings (for instance: You Are The Only One".) If they HAVE a copy, why aren't these tracks on the Freddie Mercury solo collection box? I think "You Are The Only One" is far more interesting than most of what ended up on the boxset. Maybe the owner of this can do someting similar to what a certain person did when he wanted to share his minidisc mastercopy of Queen's BBC recordings? If the owner does not want / dare: Maybe a similar construction can be made and Pittrek wants to do the "dangerous" sharing again? Would sharing tracks like this one be a risky thing to do? It could be. These aren't unofficial fan made live concert recordings (wich are being shared here all the time, and wich does seem to be OK). Also, if you compare this to the BBC tracks wich has been shared here, the BBC tracks were broadcast on radio so potentially many people could have recorded and collected them already anyway. This "Back To Storm" track (stupid fan made title by the way) is different. I can imagine that QPL didn't care much about the fact that the BBC tracks were shared overhere, but I think they DO have a problem with the fact that this track and others like "You Are The Only One" are out there. BUT... Let's assume that "Fried Chicken" is correct and Freddie recorded this at home, gave a cassette copy to a friend and that friend on his turn, for whatever reason, decides to leak these tracks: Are the tracks copyright protected? Can QPL claim property? Or was it up to Freddie himself to decide what to do with his homemade recordings and who to give a copy? I think the latter is correct. If so, these tracks can be shared freely. Some final thoughts: - David R Fuller should stop wondering why his youtube account has been deleted. It will happen again. - Jim Beach has been a lawyer and QPL is wealthy enough to rent the best lawyers. - It's not very smart to mention the name PF over here. - It's up to the owner of the property of (a) recording(s) to decide wether this will be shared or not. (not you David...silly boy) - The fact that this has been shared on youtube is a pitty for a potential future Queen release. |
| people on streets 15.07.2011 13:04 |
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| GratefulFan 15.07.2011 14:09 |
Fred pretty clearly sings 'coming on far/much too strong'. Funny though, the title, given our recent Queen + The Weather blather. :) |
| Banawig 15.07.2011 15:04 |
Should you download David R Fuller's remixes compilation, you'll find he's done a pretty great re-mix with that track too. Listed as "London Jam" - Thanks Dave: link |
| FriedChicken 16.07.2011 04:08 |
Well, in some contracts you are forbidden to give your tracks to another production company. Or use your tracks on your website as a portfolio. But I don't think there are contracts that say you can't give a recording to a friend. And also, that friend can do with the recordings what he wants. If he chooses to give them away to one of his friends, so be it. |
| ole-the-first 16.07.2011 12:33 |
>The fact that this has been shared on youtube is a pitty for a potential future Queen release. What do you mean? Do you still believe that greedy idiots from QPL gonna release "The Anthology" boxed set? I think that it's obvious that QPL just fooling us more than fifteen years. |
| people on streets 22.07.2011 10:38 |
ole-the-first wrote: >The fact that this has been shared on youtube is a pitty for a potential future Queen release. What do you mean? Do you still believe that greedy idiots from QPL gonna release "The Anthology" boxed set? I think that it's obvious that QPL just fooling us more than fifteen years. ================================================= ================================================= Yes. I still believe their will be a boxset. QPL = Roger Taylor, Brian May, John Deacon, Jim Beach. Bit silly to call the people in the band you like 'greedy idiots' don't you think? |
| Sebastian 22.07.2011 11:09 |
Being greedy idiots and being talented musicians aren't mutually exclusive. |
| rhyeking 22.07.2011 12:29 |
People On Streets asked about who owns the rights to certain leaked material. The simple answer is: the copyright holder. Most countries' laws reflect copyright ownership by the writer of the lyrics and the writer of the music. If Freddie recorded a song, gave a copy to his friend and that friend leaked it, Freddie is still the copyright holder. If the leak occurred after his death, Freddie's Estate is the copyright holder. If Freddie signed the copyright over to the friend, legally saying "This song belongs to you, along with all the rights and future royalties," the friend would then own it. An estate can sell/give away the rights as well, such as to a hospital or charity. An artist can sign a contract giving the rights to his music to the record or management company (this happened between Mike Oldfield and Richard Branson, Oldfield is only now getting the rights back). |
| *goodco* 22.07.2011 14:09 |
Thanks for the link. Yup, Jim Beach, Brian and Roger are always looking out for the fans. Consider that about 15 bootleg tracks of Freddie's were not included on the 'Solo Collection'. Especially 'It's In Everyone Of Us'. What a shame that was not included. GH III. Rocks. Damn, you guys can't show up one time at a convention. Or you screw over people who flew to Las Vegas for the WWRY premiere to meet you because they were picked in a lottery ............only you are 'too busy' (lazy, noncaring, hungover) to meet those 'lucky' fifty people. And the reissues with the piddly bonuses....or lack thereof (which the two of us have avoided like the plague).............. nuff said. Keep giving us these little golden nuggets, Mr. Fuller. |
| DavidRFuller 03.08.2011 07:17 |
You're welcome to those who thanked. And my channel has never had an issue with Mr. Beach or QPL, all copyright issues have been from obscure companies regarding one single video. I never wonder "why" my channel gets taken down sometimes, I know why, and I just fix it :) For all the poor decisions QPL have made in the past years, give them credit for knowing that they know there is nothing bad in having their music being spread amongst the people, any way possible, especially if its free for them. |
| FriedChicken 03.08.2011 11:08 |
@*goodco* If you ever been to a Queen convention, or a Queen meeting you know why Brian and Roger don't show up there. Imagine Roger and Brian amidst of a few hundred middle aged overweight women and overweight men with demin jackets and moustaches. Right after their morning aerobics to Queen music, or with their cheap reproductions of one of Freddie's outfits. Seriously, most people who go to conventions are nutcases.. |