| malicedoom 20.05.2011 08:44 |
As soon as I saw the One Vision video, my immediate reaction was "Wow. WHO put THAT together and can they please create/direct/edit EVERY QUEEN VIDEO FROM NOW ON??" Apparently the band was as impressed, given how much work DoRo had done for them since. My question is: which of the Queen videos by DoRo do you think is the greatest? One Vision is probably my 'favorite' because of all the fun the band is obviously having, but I think their most brilliant work has to be Too Much Love Will Kill You. They had already smacked a grand slam creating a 'compilation' video with The Show Must Go On, but I think they somehow topped even THAT with the TMLWKY video. The way they manage to splice in old video clips (from EVERYWHERE, even Freddie solo videos!) in parts that are almost PERFECTLY synched up with the lines being performed in the song... simply incredible. One of the best editing jobs I've ever seen, and yet another absolutely PERFECT tribute to Freddie. Thoughts? |
| john bodega 20.05.2011 08:55 |
They are extremely average, and very lucky to meet Queen. |
| Holly2003 20.05.2011 09:11 |
malicedoom wrote: As soon as I saw the One Vision video, my immediate reaction was "Wow. WHO put THAT together and can they please create/direct/edit EVERY QUEEN VIDEO FROM NOW ON??" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I could have you murdered by assassins for that remark alone ;) While some of their music videos are competent enough, DoRo have no sense of what it takes to make documentaries -- no timing, no idea what fans want, no taste, no patience (forever cutting from one scene to another in the bizarre beleif that this makes it more exciting). Think how good Magic Years could've been but it was almost entirely ruined by them. |
| malicedoom 20.05.2011 09:17 |
Wow. Tough room. :) OK, well maybe I'm in the minority here then? I personally love their videos and thought they did a great job on Magic Years. Ah well, interesting to know some people don't care for their style (to say the least). |
| cmsdrums 20.05.2011 09:56 |
it's not just their style that some find off putting, but more the fact that they got SO much wrong in terms of dates, locations, facts etc.. when making the documentaries; sometimes by accident (well, poor and lazy research), and other times worse by deliberately trying to hoodwink the viewer into believing they were seeing/hearing something they are not (for instance, very much intimating that something was Freddie's 'last ever interview' that was very much not that). |
| malicedoom 20.05.2011 10:04 |
Ah, OK. I never knew about that until now. What are your thoughts on the job they've done on the videos for Queen? |
| cmsdrums 20.05.2011 10:12 |
The Too Much Love Will Kill You compilation one isn't bad actually |
| Rubbersuit 20.05.2011 11:46 |
I can't tell if this is a sarcastic topic or not.... I guess One Vision was OK, but DoRo were a couple of hacks who lucked out with Queen. Their hack and slash approach to everything was always intrusive to the experience. The fact that Queen stuck with them for so long has always confounded me. Rare Live is a prime example. Here they are given access to the Queen Live Vault and tasked with making a 90 minute show of rare live footage. They put the whole thing in a blender, jumping around from show to show within each song, completely ruining the experience. Roger Taylor Live at the Cyberbarn is another classic example. They cut up the show relentlessly mixing interview and concert footage and show big portions of it in a small window on the screen to "simulate" watching on the internet. They put their editing tricks above the source material, and for that they should be shot with a ball of their own feces. So put me on the fence. :O) |
| malicedoom 20.05.2011 13:38 |
Well I was mainly referring to their work on Queen 'videos' (although I DID enjoy Magic Years as well). Rare Live? Eh, I didn't like the way it was put together, so I can see your point there. |
| Dr Zoidberg 20.05.2011 14:07 |
I liked "I'm Going Slightly Mad" and "These Are the Days of Our Lives" a lot. I thought "No One But You" was alright, and better before they added all the little Freddie snippets into it. And "One Vision" is an entertaining clip. As far as their compilation videos go, "The Show Must Go On" was excellent and I agree that "Too Much Love Will Kill You" was also very watchable, but I also understand that people got tired of their slideshow style compilation clips - especially US fans who saw even more of them on the early '90s Hollywood Records "Classic Queen" and "Greatest Hits" VHS releases. And as documentarians their work is pretty hit and miss. One video I do actually like a lot that rarely gets mentioned is the clip they did for "A Winter's Tale". |
| ChasSpencer 20.05.2011 18:13 |
I like their video for 'Under Pressure (Rah mix)". I thought that was skillfully done to create the duet that never was live. |
| john bodega 21.05.2011 03:08 |
Their compilations are a little like having a pleasant flashback relayed to you by someone else. They miss the point entirely. Besides which, each one is basically the same. You could swap out the videos of Show Must Go On, Too Much Love, and In My Defence, and really no one would be the wiser because the editing is so trite. I heard somewhere that DoRo are the cretins responsible for that "Freddie's last interview" hackjob that's floating around. I sincerely hope that's a lie - no one's that bad at editing. Surely... |
| strangefrontier 21.05.2011 11:36 |
I'm not a fan of the' butcher twins'...as I refer to them. Rare live was a missed opportunity and a lot of their work I find irritating as others have said. The best thing they filmed was the band in the studio recording One Vision IMHO. They were lucky boys to have been employed by the band. |
| emrabt 21.05.2011 11:45 |
Their REAL videos aren't that bad. |
| Thistle 21.05.2011 14:45 |
ChasSpencer wrote: I like their video for 'Under Pressure (Rah mix)". I thought that was skillfully done to create the duet that never was live. ============================================================================================= Agreed! A Winter's Tale is my favourite, though. |
| Back2TheLight 21.05.2011 16:57 |
Headlong was cool...I liked that one... |
| Bo Alex 21.05.2011 19:31 |
I'm going slightly mad |
| john bodega 22.05.2011 03:31 |
Slightly Mad is a great example because a lot of that was Freddie's input. DoRo were just there to point the camera at him; probably while tugging each other off over the big fat paycheck they'd just received. |
| jaq 23.05.2011 02:15 |
[snip excessive kneejerk DoRo hate to save sanity.] All I gots to say, is without the band's chemistry with other and certain people's charisma (snicker-chortle; cos god knows & we know they can't act or lip-sync to save their lives), a lot of these videos...Ugh. See the major solo vids, FM tribute and ROTC are done by Mallet: when they want it classy they fork out the dough. This is a band with inherently big, rare dramatic arc to their story. Point the camera in the last days and the fanbase goes into auto-weep mode. Then imagine the same thing getting a Johnny Cash "Hurt" treatment, or young David Fincher's sleek story of innuendos for MJ's "Who is it". The point is DoRo don't seem intuitive about the songs they're hired to do (I reckon Winter's Tale by film student was too abstract, at least it was sensitive to the song unlike DoRo again riding the charming dead corpse of "surviving shards of great man":PP) They just pad out the runtime, when they "should" be giving the songs an extra layer of meaning. Don't even start in the random nude MILF in Queen Rocks compil (T&A sells hot young studs in '78, not on their way to great dead legends status - do you sell Jimi Hendrix with T&A?) Sucky visual branding is why they never got a foothold or consistent media presence in the US (mea culpa!) Back to OP: The Miracle is probably "best". They're good with kids, or something. |
| jaq 23.05.2011 02:19 |
remove - double post |
| Rick 23.05.2011 02:45 |
Rare Live is utter garbage. What were they thinking? |
| jaq 23.05.2011 02:48 |
removed - double post |
| jaq 23.05.2011 02:49 |
remove - double post |
| dysan 23.05.2011 03:51 |
Magic Years and Rare Live were the first time I (and I sure very very many others) saw all that footage. What a great time to be a Queen fan. Yes, the concept of Rare Live is better than the finished product, but I will always love it for the first place I saw the Hammersmith RNR medley (the edit IS superior to the full thing). DORO also worked with David Bowie and delivered a great live video in 1991. I think they just suffer from having aged badly. I think they are ok. |
| Hangman_96 23.05.2011 09:05 |
My favourite videos by DoRo are probably Rare Live and Magic Years. These ones are really great to see. They contain good concert material, good footages of the band and lots of other good stuff. |