| kozlorf 18.02.2011 06:20 |
link Well, this set may be considered useless, but apparently it contains the songs that I could personally call my (almost) perfect set of choice from that period. Wonder if it may help bringing up the progressive gems like March Of The Black Queen and Funster/Wrist/Valley medley as well as the hits-still-to-be like ITLOTGR, '39 or Long Away to the wider public... |
| Queenman!! 18.02.2011 06:35 |
OMFG..... they never learn. listen and look at the previous mistakes they made do they!? What a bunch of tossers. |
| pittrek 18.02.2011 06:53 |
Actually the tracklist is much more interesting than the tracklist of Absolute Greatest |
| OmegaGreen17 18.02.2011 06:56 |
Im going to buy the remasters anyways, but I feel that they could have put Liar on there... |
| tero! 48531 18.02.2011 07:04 |
So that makes it two Greatest Hits albums, a re-release of the Platinum Collection in the summer(?), three compilations of Deep Cuts, and the mystery Forever album for the Christmas market. Pretty impressive first year.... : / |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 18.02.2011 07:43 |
I'd like to know what a verse will be include in this deep cuts, albums or single |
| people on streets 18.02.2011 08:18 |
Quite nice. Good looking artwork, interesting track list. I think this is a big step forward. I might even buy this if it will be released on vinyl too (wich i doubt) |
| splicksplack 18.02.2011 09:05 |
What utter pointless fucking bollocks. At first, with a name like Deep Cuts, I thought it was stuff from the vaults, then I re-read it and it's another bloody compilation of already available tracks. If people want to "delve into the band’s founding years’ work for the first time" they can just preview any of the Queen albums in iTunes. And then buy any tracks that they like. With CD sales going down the toilet and the UK's last CD chain, HMV, on it's knees, I just don't understand this at all. Anothother CD compilation without anything new!!!!!! Who the fuck is going to buy it? |
| ole-the-first 18.02.2011 09:24 |
There should be stand-alone version of The March of the Black Queen. Maybe this is "extended version" that Brian claims to exist? |
| Thistle 18.02.2011 09:32 |
Great tracklisting. Could have had Liar/ White Queen/ You and I/ Who Needs You, but a great tracklisting nonetheless. There will be folk who have never heard the entire Queen back cat curious about this - I hope it serves the purpose... Needless to say, I'll probably buy it. I'm a completist, I can't help it. |
| Holly2003 18.02.2011 09:55 |
people on streets wrote: Quite nice. Good looking artwork, interesting track list. I think this is a big step forward. I might even buy this if it will be released on vinyl too (wich i doubt) =================================================== How exactly is this a "big step forward"? |
| splicksplack 18.02.2011 11:10 |
So.... how come no John Deacon songs on Deep Cuts? For the sake of balance and to show Queen were made up of four writers, not three, I would have thought "You and I" or "Misfire" would have earned a place instead of say "Long Away" or "Good Company". But I suppose there's sour grapes. John won't play "Ageing Rock Bands" with Brian. Deep Cuts? Surely a letter missing. |
| notimeforlosers 18.02.2011 13:13 |
There are no Roger Taylor's songs on Greatest Hits and I have never seen anyone complaining about it. I'm so tired of everybody blaiming Brian and Roger for whathever Queen Productions put on the market. They have a new label and they have a contract that must demand new releases. So what if we already have all the songs from this "Deep Cuts"? Just don't buy it. But there is a bunch of people who claims to be Queen fans that doesn't know nothing besides BoRhap/WWRY/WATC/AOBTD. Sometimes I wonder if you guys really love Queen. |
| queen79luca 18.02.2011 13:34 |
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| rhyeking 18.02.2011 13:44 |
Did anyone else notice that "The March Of The Black Queen" and "Ogre Battle" are going to me stand-alone versions? I wonder if they'll simply fade out the album versions at the end or will go to the master tapes to get the clean recordings of the non-segued originals. I'm guessing "Tenement Funster," "Flick Out The Wrist" and "Lily Of The Valley" will be the full album versions, cross-fading as they normally do (rather than the isolated, stand-alone versions released as B-sides). |
| silver_salmon 18.02.2011 13:48 |
WHy Tie Your mother down is not included neither GH nor Deep Cuts? One of the most played alive song!! |
| silver_salmon 18.02.2011 14:02 |
rhyeking wrote: Did anyone else notice that "The March Of The Black Queen" and "Ogre Battle" are going to me stand-alone versions? I wonder if they'll simply fade out the album versions at the end or will go to the master tapes to get the clean recordings of the non-segued originals. I'm guessing "Tenement Funster," "Flick Out The Wrist" and "Lily Of The Valley" will be the full album versions, cross-fading as they normally do (rather than the isolated, stand-alone versions released as B-sides). Rhyeking if you want to get a complete stand Alone version on Ogre Battle, you can replace the last kick and Cymbal on the song by the begining of the song but reversed and ready!.....the end of the of the song is the long "fade in" begining, incluiding reverse instrumental part to Freddie's first verse voice. |
| Kamenliter 18.02.2011 14:45 |
Why is Keep Yourself Alive included? How is that a 'Deep Cut?'...They should have definitely replaced that with a John Deacon song, as someone else mentioned. The decisions they make sometimes are confounding. |
| pittrek 18.02.2011 14:47 |
Sometimes ? |
| rhyeking 18.02.2011 15:23 |
Yes, I know the end of "Ogre Battle" was reversed for the beginning. If they use the non-segued master recording for Deep Cuts, it would be light years better than anything I could edit together. Also, I made all the tracks as a playlist to see how long their total time was and it came to about 51 minutes. Give or take some extra seconds for the uncut versions of OB and MOTBQ, that's still not very long. For a point of comparison, the Innuendo album was about 53:39. |
| ern2150 18.02.2011 15:31 |
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| ern2150 18.02.2011 15:33 |
Glad I said that (the hell did my post go?) Anyway - what songs have never had a commercial release in a Standalone version that were once part of a Segue? Father to Son? Ogre Battle (not counting BBC and Hollywood remixes)? Fairy Feller? |
| rhyeking 18.02.2011 16:08 |
White Queen (the EP version lacks the segue, but edits some of the opening guitar) Nevermore (apart from the BBC version) The Prophet's Song Teo Torriatte (every release has some amount of the album outro present) Party (not so much a segue so much as it gets cut off with "Khashoggi's Ship") The following, for those unaware, were released as full stand-alone versions: Funny How Love Is (Japanese 3" CD "The Seven Seas Of Rhye" Single) Tenement Funster (Japanese 3" CD "Queen's 1st EP" Single) Flick Of the Wrist (Dutch 7" Single AA-Side) Lily Of The Valley (US-only 1975 "Keep Yourself Alive" Re-issue 7" Single) Love Of My Life (Jewels II) |
| Ramffiss 18.02.2011 16:15 |
otra vez más de lo mismo |
| GinjaNinja 18.02.2011 17:30 |
"White Queen (the EP version lacks the segue, but edits some of the opening guitar)" If you turn the volume up on the E.P. version you can faintly hear the last fading part of Father To Son. "Lily Of The Valley (US-only 1975 "Keep Yourself Alive" Re-issue 7" Single)" This isn't really a proper standalone version, it's just edited in to a part where the songs don't overlap. "Love Of My Life (Jewels II)" Again, you can faintly hear the last part of The Prophet's Song if you listen very closely at the start. It's a real shame that they don't seem to make the extra effort to produce standalone versions. |
| rhyeking 18.02.2011 18:00 |
Actually, the version of "Lily Of The Valley" on the KYA re-issue is the full stand-alone cut. It starts with the complete piano intro, normally heard underneath the "Baby, you've been had" at the end of "Flick Of The Wrist," but without any part of FOTW present. The copy I'm listening to comes from the 7" single, which I own. The full piano intro is not heard on the B-Side of "Now I'm Here," which is an edit of the album version, with the segue removed. Here are details: 1975 KYA US Single Version: 4 counts of 4 beats before Freddie's first vocal appears (no segue) 1974 NIH UK Single Edit: 3 counts of 4 beats before Freddie's first vocal appears (segue edited off) 1974 SHA Album Version: 4 counts of 4 beats before Freddie's first vocal appears (with segue) I'll post my copy on YouTube if anyone's interested. |
| Liquid Scream 18.02.2011 18:14 |
I would rather see Doing All Right instead of Good Company. Tim Staffell deserves more royalties. The song is damn good too! |
| rhyeking 18.02.2011 18:24 |
Regarding "White Queen," the version on my copy of the 7" "Queen's 1st EP" fades in at the end of Brian's opening guitar of the song. On the album, he sustains the opening note for about 25 seconds and it comes in underneath the "Joyful the sound..." repeating at the end as "Father To Son" fades out (over about 24 seconds). On the EP, we hear a non-segued 2 seconds or so as it fades in. There are no "Joyfuls..." during the fade in that I can hear. It sounds to me as if they didn't want to have the full 25 second sustained guitar note intro and rather just cut to the chase. The Jewels II Version of "Love Of My Life" starts cleanly with the piano, where as the album version has Brian's last harsh pluck still present underneath it when the piano comes in. However, on the 3rd bar of the intro, Brian's toy koto is still present on the track (though that's the last we hear of it). I won't argue with anyone who claims the koto is still part of "The Prophet's Song," though for me that song ends on that harsh pluck at around 8:21. |
| tcc 18.02.2011 19:21 |
notimeforlosers wrote: There are no Roger Taylor's songs on Greatest Hits and I have never seen anyone complaining about it. There was a clear cut criteria for selecting the songs for the GH album. In this case, we cannot see what criteria was used for the song selection. |
| ern2150 19.02.2011 00:04 |
rhyeking wrote: Actually, the version of "Lily Of The Valley" on the KYA re-issue is the full stand-alone cut. It starts with the complete piano intro, normally heard underneath the "Baby, you've been had" at the end of "Flick Of The Wrist," but without any part of FOTW present. The copy I'm listening to comes from the 7" single, which I own. The full piano intro is not heard on the B-Side of "Now I'm Here," which is an edit of the album version, with the segue removed. Here are details: 1975 KYA US Single Version: 4 counts of 4 beats before Freddie's first vocal appears (no segue) 1974 NIH UK Single Edit: 3 counts of 4 beats before Freddie's first vocal appears (segue edited off) 1974 SHA Album Version: 4 counts of 4 beats before Freddie's first vocal appears (with segue) I'll post my copy on YouTube if anyone's interested. Please do -- you're giving me exactly what I'm asking for, which is, obviously, not what Queen Productions are doing, but why am I surprised, etc. |
| splicksplack 19.02.2011 01:52 |
What? There are, as someone has already said, criteria for the Greatest Hits. Are you part of QPL? Shut up, you cock. |
| splicksplack 19.02.2011 02:18 |
here are no Roger Taylor's songs on Greatest Hits and I have never seen anyone complaining about it.I'm so tired of everybody blaiming Brian and Roger for whathever Queen Productions put on the market. They have a new label and they have a contract that must demand new releases. So what if we already have all the songs from this "Deep Cuts"? Just don't buy it. But there is a bunch of people who claims to be Queen fans that doesn't know nothing besides BoRhap/WWRY/WATC/AOBTD.Sometimes I wonder if you guys really love Queen. Who are you, with your dodgy "towing the corporate line" message after 11 posts? Brian staff? |
| Dane 19.02.2011 04:04 |
Yes it's all too bad.. Robbie Williams will be releasing his entire back catalogue this year.. Every album accompanied with unreleased material and a bonus DVD of all the television performances (as he released the music video's seperately last year). Albums will be sold for 9 pounds!!!! instead of the 12,99 or whatever those Queen rerererererereleases cost. He gets it.. Queen don't |
| rhyeking 19.02.2011 04:11 |
link There you go. Enjoy! |
| Dane 19.02.2011 04:13 |
pittrek wrote: Actually the tracklist is much more interesting than the tracklist of Absolute Greatest I too am more interested in seeing a green pile of crap than a brown one.. Doesn't help the smell though. ;) |
| notimeforlosers 19.02.2011 13:55 |
splicksplack wrote: here are no Roger Taylor's songs on Greatest Hits and I have never seen anyone complaining about it.I'm so tired of everybody blaiming Brian and Roger for whathever Queen Productions put on the market. They have a new label and they have a contract that must demand new releases. So what if we already have all the songs from this "Deep Cuts"? Just don't buy it. But there is a bunch of people who claims to be Queen fans that doesn't know nothing besides BoRhap/WWRY/WATC/AOBTD.Sometimes I wonder if you guys really love Queen. Who are you, with your dodgy "towing the corporate line" message after 11 posts? Brian staff? ====== The thing is JOHN DEACON doesn't give a fucking shit for Queen or for a fan like you. Maybe he has asked Brian and Roger for not throwing any of his songs in this release? Why is he to be praised? If you think there is no Queen without Freddie and John what the hell are you doing here wasting your time and your 59 posts with a DEAD band? If the band is damn dead, so get lost, honey. Why are you bothering with new releases from a band (Brian and Roger) you hate? I'm so very happy with what's left from Queen and that's why I'm here. 'Cause they (Freddie, John, Brian and Roger) already gave me everything I'd be pleased for. |
| Wiley 19.02.2011 15:23 |
The 50 min duration makes me think maybe they will release these as LP albums. Has this been announced? Actually, I think It's refreshing to see a Queen album where Freddie is not sporting a moustache. |
| chris the unhappy sheep 19.02.2011 18:11 |
personally i've always been against 'milking the cow' so much, it actually angers me a little. i'm all for releasing stuff from the vault, something we've not heard before, but not the same old stuff. of course 'they' know they'll sell a certain amount at least, however i don't see the point in buying this type of thing. its an insult. i'd love to have a conversation with roger or brian about this subject. over the years, because of moving country a few times, i've had to re-buy the queen catalogue a number of times. surely thats enough money in your pockets roger and brian! |
| GinjaNinja 19.02.2011 18:30 |
Thanks for posting that video RhyeKing, I stand corrected. The US Single Version that I'd heard started 1 bar before the vocals: link |
| rhyeking 20.02.2011 16:47 |
No worries, Ninja. After your post, I went back to double-check, thinking maybe I was misremembering. |
| rhyeking 20.02.2011 20:47 |
link Here's the version of "White Queen" off my copy of the EP, in case anyone was wondering. |