| Mercuryking 12.02.2011 17:19 |
Check this guy out ,his name is Bob Beck (now dead) he was an Dr that had a cure for Aids/Hiv , cancer and many more thru a technique that involves an small electric treatment to your wrist (where your vain is , ur pulse) that would vanish all of the viruses , fungi etc... He was later killed off supposedly... The sad thing(if this truely workes) is that he invented this while Freddie still was alive.............................................................................(1991) Anyways if this works , its wonderful for everyone on the planet and offcourse the government wont allow these stuff to be out in public. Here is the video link |
| Sebastian 12.02.2011 18:19 |
Since this is about whatifing: what if Fred hadn't been infected? We could've had Freddie ALIVE according to that... |
| john bodega 13.02.2011 00:09 |
Current medication is already able to slow or stop the virus from replicating itself. This method would have a negligible effect on the HIV material that's hiding away inside lymphocytes that aren't being circulated in the bloodstream; they wouldn't get 'zapped'. Freddie would not be alive if we had this. You can put the Kleenex away. |
| Mercuryking 13.02.2011 08:33 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Current medication is already able to slow or stop the virus from replicating itself. This method would have a negligible effect on the HIV material that's hiding away inside lymphocytes that aren't being circulated in the bloodstream; they wouldn't get 'zapped'. Freddie would not be alive if we had this. You can put the Kleenex away. =========================================================================================== Ohh im sorry ,i forgot i was telling this to the all knowing.... So you are actually claiming that there is an official cure for both cancer and AIDS?? Then where have i been ? Cause i certainly missed it. Exuse me but what the hell do you know? I think this Bob Beck guy know just a bit more about this subject than you do. And if this is true , it WOULD have cured Freddie and it would cure AIDS and cancer according to this treatment. But even if this were true, it would NEVER come out to the public cause the government dont want a cure for neither cancer or Aids... They are the ones providing it to the public for depopulation and profit reasons. |
| john bodega 13.02.2011 08:36 |
"I think this Bob Beck guy know just a bit more about this subject than you do." I think he's a bit more dead than I am. I was not entirely refuting the suggestion that his treatment would be of some use against HIV. Logically speaking, though, it doesn't appear that it would be a guaranteed cure, nor does it seem to be significantly greater than any medications that are going at the moment. It's certainly an interesting idea, but you're dealing with it as though it's an absolute, and the information just isn't there to suggest that. You're saying "Freddie would be alive", when really what you mean is "there's a chance that this could've helped Freddie". There's also a chance that it wouldn't have. Don't let me (or common sense) stand in the way of mindless optimism, though. |
| Mercuryking 13.02.2011 08:57 |
Well logically there is no cure cause its not supposed to be an cure out there. Its really that simple. If you watch further on this guy in the other parts , he will describe how to do this by yourself, he makes no profit of this. He even says that its all an buisness , when u have aids , cancer etc , you spend thousands of dollars for their socalled "treatment" and majority of the time it fails and you die. Now im not saying that i know that this works but im very interested in to finding out how to build this inexpensive device and trying it out in case someone i know or myself, would get cancer or whatever. With everything going on from poisoning our foods to giving poisonous vaccines , my trust for the industry/government is almost ZERO. Its all about money and killing and it got NOTHING to do with actual curing of people anymore. Do you actually believe that if you would have found a cure for cancer , that you would've been praised and welcomed with open arms by those that run the industry? Yea in a sane world , that would have been the case but since this is soooo far away from an sane world , they would've threaten you to take it down , stop with what you were doing or you'd be dead. Very simple to understand. |
| john bodega 13.02.2011 09:17 |
To me, there are a few significant things to keep in mind. 1). Any technology is interesting and should be investigated to it's fullest potential, including this one. 2). I have absolutely nothing but contempt for people who prematurely announce something to be a definite cure for a terminal illness. There are very real, verifiable instances where people have died because they listened to someone who said "this works", when it really didn't. |
| Mercuryking 13.02.2011 09:37 |
Zebonka12 wrote: To me, there are a few significant things to keep in mind. 1). Any technology is interesting and should be investigated to it's fullest potential, including this one. 2). I have absolutely nothing but contempt for people who prematurely announce something to be a definite cure for a terminal illness. There are very real, verifiable instances where people have died because they listened to someone who said "this works", when it really didn't. ========================================================================================= Yea offcourse it must be investigated. But the reality is that , in this world of injustice , you wont see this even as an option cause as you just said yourself, THERE CAN NEVER BE AN DEFINITE cure , well why not? Cause they have said so and so therefore they would automatically dissmiss this idea. They would just ridicule it like eveybody else hearing this would. People need to understand that this industry ,(while it may cure some stuff) is not in its interest to cure , its in its interest to kill and make profits. Now im not saying that the doctors are like this, they are not in the knowing of what they are doing , they just follow orders. When you are awake, then you realize what a sick world we live in , its when you're asleep that you are naive , thinking this is good world where the medical industry is for the wellness of the people and profit comes second, well its not even though it SHOULD be. |
| The Real Wizard 13.02.2011 12:38 |
I'm 2/2 with this guy now. Big pharma is a business, and their business is in you being sick, not being healthy. Nothing more, nothing less. Suppressing such breakthroughs will likely never be proven, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were. |
| john bodega 13.02.2011 13:19 |
"People need to understand that this industry ,(while it may cure some stuff) is not in its interest to cure , its in its interest to kill and make profits." Be that as it may, that wasn't what I was getting at in the first place; but I agree entirely that self-interest is more than likely to get in the way of medical progress. |
| Josh Henson 13.02.2011 13:34 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Check this guy out ,his name is Bob Beck (now dead) he was an Dr that had a cure for Aids/Hiv , cancer and many more thru a technique that involves an small electric treatment to your wrist (where your vain is , ur pulse) that would vanish all of the viruses , fungi etc... He was later killed off supposedly... The sad thing(if this truely workes) is that he invented this while Freddie still was alive.............................................................................(1991) Anyways if this works , its wonderful for everyone on the planet and offcourse the government wont allow these stuff to be out in public. Here is the video link You are stupid. |
| Josh Henson 13.02.2011 13:35 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Zebonka12 wrote: Current medication is already able to slow or stop the virus from replicating itself. This method would have a negligible effect on the HIV material that's hiding away inside lymphocytes that aren't being circulated in the bloodstream; they wouldn't get 'zapped'. Freddie would not be alive if we had this. You can put the Kleenex away. =========================================================================================== Ohh im sorry ,i forgot i was telling this to the all knowing.... So you are actually claiming that there is an official cure for both cancer and AIDS?? Then where have i been ? Cause i certainly missed it. Exuse me but what the hell do you know? I think this Bob Beck guy know just a bit more about this subject than you do. And if this is true , it WOULD have cured Freddie and it would cure AIDS and cancer according to this treatment. But even if this were true, it would NEVER come out to the public cause the government dont want a cure for neither cancer or Aids... They are the ones providing it to the public for depopulation and profit reasons. Again, the more you speak the more stupid you sound. I feel dumber for reading what you wrote. Thank you. |
| Crazy LittleThing 13.02.2011 18:35 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I think he's a bit more dead than I am. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOL! Classic, Zeb! |
| Mercuryking 13.02.2011 19:08 |
You are stupid. =========================================================================== Please explain to me how i am being stupid. |
| Mercuryking 13.02.2011 19:10 |
Sir GH wrote: I'm 2/2 with this guy now. Big pharma is a business, and their business is in you being sick, not being healthy. Nothing more, nothing less. Suppressing such breakthroughs will likely never be proven, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were. ============================================================================================ Here is someone that can see thru the BS. |
| Mercuryking 13.02.2011 19:26 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "People need to understand that this industry ,(while it may cure some stuff) is not in its interest to cure , its in its interest to kill and make profits." Be that as it may, that wasn't what I was getting at in the first place; but I agree entirely that self-interest is more than likely to get in the way of medical progress. ============================================================================== Yea but in knowing this , we should always step back and look at everything they throw at us , like for example the swine flu etc.. that was all BS. Its very frustrating knowing that even if somebody could cure your sick grandmother or whoever, its not going to get out there in public and into practise cause of these scumbags... makes me even more angry knowing that such a wonderful humanbeing in Mercury being dead when it now seems it was possible maybe curing him! When they say somethings impossible to cure , in the past i would've believed them , now when i hear things like that it makes me mad. |
| The Real Wizard 13.02.2011 22:10 |
At the end of the day though, you need to channel your anger into more positive energy. There are still many ways that you can make a difference in this world - keep searching and you will find. There are two kinds of people - doers and complainers. The choice is yours, my good man. |
| john bodega 14.02.2011 00:13 |
"we should always step back and look at everything they throw at us , like for example the swine flu etc.. that was all BS." I was always fascinated by swine flu (and SARS). I used to feel that the medical profession started us off with a healthy level of precautions and what-not, but that the media itself was to blame for getting carried away with it. Yeah; both diseases had the potential to kill people, but when you look at the numbers of people killed (and the people themselves) then it really wasn't a big deal in comparison with other flu viruses. Of course it was dangerous - a guy I knew nearly got killed from swine flu - but if it really was a massive threat to humanity, I think it would've killed a lot more of us than it did in reality. In retrospect, when you look back, the media was responsible for more of the bullshit than anyone else. It's fair to say a few doctors would've overreacted to the whole thing but that's their job - you don't "underreact" when your health is concerned. |
| Senna 14.02.2011 04:45 |
What about all the new drugs and treatments for ailments that have come on the market over the last 30 years and all the millions being spent employing scientists to find cures, omg i don't want to get personal but you all need to get off the internet and start living your life. |
| john bodega 14.02.2011 05:39 |
"omg i don't want to get personal but you all need to get off the internet and start living your life." And you found the time to write this ... how?? |
| Mercuryking 14.02.2011 06:03 |
Sir GH wrote: At the end of the day though, you need to channel your anger into more positive energy. There are still many ways that you can make a difference in this world - keep searching and you will find. There are two kinds of people - doers and complainers. The choice is yours, my good man. ============================================================================= You are 100% correct about that, this anger wont help anybody and thru changing oneself , that will make a real change to the outcome of this reality. We all have all the power in the world to change our reality , to be what we want to be , we just have to realize it. We have to get rid of fear , hatred and stuff that feeds the ego. The ego is the root of everything bad in this world, when we understand that all is one then this world could be a better place. Now this isnt as easy as it sounds but we all must remind ourselfs everyday about it , and move one step at the time towards releasing the ego. What they do is , they want to divide us with everything that they are feeding us in the media, stuff like ,religion, teams, you vs me, ugly vs beautiful, rich vs poor , cool vs boring etc thats why the tv is the single most "dangerous" thing in our lives. The internet is much better cause there you can choose what u want to see and not being fed to the samee extent. |
| Mercuryking 14.02.2011 06:10 |
In retrospect, when you look back, the media was responsible for more of the bullshit than anyone else. It's fair to say a few doctors would've overreacted to the whole thing but that's their job - you don't "underreact" when your health is concerned. ============================================================================= Exactly thats why we should always question almost everything that comes out of media, even things that would seem far fetched , never rule out anything when coming down to media. They are masters of mind controlling so they go into very small details of stuff , stuff we never would have thought about. We need to stop being lazy and stupid and start thinking more. There was a quote , i think it was from Hitler. Something like its when people do not think thats when they are controllable, the biggest threat to that is people that do think. Something like that , i dont remeber the exact quote but it was somethin to that extent. |
| Mercuryking 14.02.2011 06:38 |
Senna wrote: What about all the new drugs and treatments for ailments that have come on the market over the last 30 years and all the millions being spent employing scientists to find cures, omg i don't want to get personal but you all need to get off the internet and start living your life. =============================================================================== Yea what about them? its all a buisness and it has not your best interest at heart. Please realize this and stop being so naive for your own sake and the people around you. You sound like a person that fall for what they tell you. The more natural we people are , more healthier we will be. Its when we take their precautionaus advice, to take vaccines and stuff that we get these diseases. |
| FriedChicken 14.02.2011 07:07 |
I don't think the government would do such a thing. By the way, they were way too busy planning the World Trade Center attacks and covering up the aliens living amoung us. Idiot. |
| GratefulFan 14.02.2011 12:16 |
FriedChicken wrote: I don't think the government would do such a thing. By the way, they were way too busy planning the World Trade Center attacks and covering up the aliens living amoung us. Idiot. =============================== It's absolutely true that these kinds of theories tend to come in clusters with any given individual. 9/11, suppression of cures, suppression of energy technologies etc. I don't mean to draw any negative conclusion about that in this instance, it's just interesting to note that it all kind of flows from a particular world view and a particular way of filtering and sorting information. |
| GratefulFan 14.02.2011 12:47 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Be that as it may, that wasn't what I was getting at in the first place; but I agree entirely that self-interest is more than likely to get in the way of medical progress. =============================== Human nature in general impacts the ebb and flow of advancement in just about any discipline you can think of. In business models like pharmaceutical companies the self interest of the bottom line must be a factor, but innovation and discovery are driven forward by the very same pressures. In academia, peer review processes and research granting bodies propel some ideas forward and strangle others in the cradle. It's not perfect, but it's the best we have. Individual innovators, particularly those that are trying to work outside of conventionally accepted beliefs, are at theoretical risk of never getting the exposure and resources they need, and of being shut out by the institutions that society looks to for the mark of credibility. We know it's happened in the past because there are many examples of scientific theories or inventions that were first ridiculed before they became accepted and adopted. But the general direction of humanity is forward, and I think it's realistic to assume that great strides are at worst delayed, and when they are it's quite a bit less nefarious and deliberate than government conspiracies and the like. John Kanzius, who had now passed away, is a great example of a guy with a great unconventional idea that moved literally from his garage into multiple university research facilities in the United States. In general, I think the good ideas will find their way almost every time. |
| master marathon runner 14.02.2011 12:58 |
Right, who's for tea or coffee? Master Marathon Runner |
| john bodega 14.02.2011 18:53 |
"But the general direction of humanity is forward, and I think it's realistic to assume that great strides are at worst delayed, and when they are it's quite a bit less nefarious and deliberate than government conspiracies and the like." I think we're damned either way. People claim that cures for things are being suppressed, but then when vaccines are offered up for the public, crazy-ass stories get made up about them. I, and most of my extended family, have been vaccinated for lots of things over the years, but none of us have dropped dead. I guess now we're all carrying miniature chips in our bloodstreams now, though. I think Jenny McCarthy's activism is more dangerous than the medical profession. |