| cmi 13.11.2010 07:03 |
In this topic I want to share my assumptions on audio/video content for forthcoming 40th anniversary Deluxe reissues. Here are the first two albums: ------------------------------------------------------------ QUEEN (1973 Deluxe 3CD+1DVD edition) CD1 (album) 10 tracks CD2: (studio bonus) Previously released: 1. Keep Yourself Alive (long lost retake) 2. Mad The Swine 3. Liar (1991 Remix) Early sessions: 1. Polar Bear 2. Silver Salmon 3. Hangman (???) X. ? De Lane Lea session: 1. Keep Yourself Alive 2. Liar 3. The Night Comes Down (???) 4. Jesus Trident session: 1. The Night Comes Down (original Trident version) X. ? (outtake) X. ? (alternate take) 2011 Remixes/Instrumentals: X. ? CD3: (live bonus) Marquee 1972 complete concert recording DVD: Promos: 1. Keep Yourself alive (OGWT version) 2. Keep Yourself Alive (Brewer Street) 3. Liar (Brewer Street) 4. Keep Yourself Alive (St Johns Woods) 5. Liar (St Johns Woods) Studio/Interviews footage: X. ? Live footage: X. ? QUEEN II (1974 Deluxe 2CD+1DVD edition) CD1 (album) 12 tracks CD2 (studio bonus) Previously released: 1. See What A Fool I've Been Trident session: X. ? (outtake) X. ? (alternate take) 2011 Remixes/Instrumentals: X. ? DVD: TV appearances: 1. Seven Seas Of Rhye (TOTP 1st version) 2. Seven Seas Of Rhye (TOTP 2nd version) Studio/Interviews footage: X. ? Live footage: X. ? |
| cmi 13.11.2010 07:06 |
There's no Golders Green Hippodrome/BBC sessions material here, because I think this material needs to be released in separate 'BBC Sessions/In Concert' project. Any comments? |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 14.11.2010 02:20 |
answer to CMI: Foolish hope, you know. Yet not known whether the released so-called back catalog for the newly remastered studio albums. One thing to say that the release, but there is only a marketing ploy to interest the fans. If consider how many years promise to release, but not officially released tracks, which have long be freely downloaded from the Internet. It would be cool if released a concert DVD, I mean those that are not officially released. |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 14.11.2010 07:24 |
this sort of the things, you know, That is something new. Sooner or later something like that must has been appear I hope someday Universal let release all DVD concerts from this which we never seen before |
| Marknow 14.11.2010 09:08 |
I'm looking forward to seeing what we get, but in all fairness that list is fantasy. Anybody seriously expecting this kind of product is setting themselves up for disappointment. |
| mooghead 14.11.2010 16:34 |
"40th ann. Deluxe 1973-1995 reissues (assumptions)"# See the previous 10 million threads about possible box set inclusions....... |
| cmi 15.11.2010 02:18 |
2 all: It's not foolish hope or something. I simply imagined the best way to represent the back catalogue from my point of view. Also the aim is to collect all known material from each album period in one place. |
| Benn 15.11.2010 09:28 |
There is no reason on earth to add DVDs to any of these re-issues. Let's have the audio on audio releases - the Universal Deluxe programme more than ably caters for this. Let's have the DVDs released as DVDs with packaging that compliments the existing EMI releases and available in the DVD section of any music retailer. Those who don't want DVDs shouldn't have to have them if they ONLY want the audio. |
| Kamenliter 15.11.2010 19:32 |
I can see where you're coming from Benn, but I think times have changed, and many deluxe edition CD's now come with DVD's It's added value and some of the stuff that CMI proposes might not be suited to a proper one off release....ie there simply might not be enough material or be of high enough quality to warrant a full length DVD. The promos for the tunes from Queen 1 would make a nice compliment to the regular album and other bonus tracks mentioned. Still, I could see just including the promos, and any int. footage, or tv appearences, but the longer concerts should get their own proper release. A DVD two-fer of Rainbow and Hammersmith Odeon + bonuses would be nice. Ahhh to dream.... |
| Michael Allred 16.11.2010 04:32 |
Benn wrote: There is no reason on earth to add DVDs to any of these re-issues. Let's have the audio on audio releases - the Universal Deluxe programme more than ably caters for this. Let's have the DVDs released as DVDs with packaging that compliments the existing EMI releases and available in the DVD section of any music retailer. Those who don't want DVDs shouldn't have to have them if they ONLY want the audio. With the music industry in total shambles, record labels will try and add as much added value content to CDs as they can to help improve sales. I have no problem with this. There are some live concerts that Queen Productions simply don't think is up to snuff video/audio wise so a stand alone release for them is highly questionable but if they are viewed as simply "bonus content" then they might be more likely to give the go ahead for them to be released. |
| Benn 16.11.2010 11:02 |
Hi Michael, You're absolutely right, of course, but it kind of ruins the excitement of having *music* available to buy again when you're forced to have something as bonus content but which is is a completely different format. Let's face it, how much time do we all REALLY have to sit and watch music DVDs? I managed to get the wife to allow me to watch the first part of one of the DVDs included in Springsteens "Darkness" box set last night and that eeked out to a hour before she'd had enough of me spending that time. Audio though - absolutely no problem giving ANYTHING multiple rotations at the volume I choose in the car. :-) It's all personal and subjective in terms of choice, of course, but my preference is to keep audio and video material separate in the same way as it is to keep live and studio audio recordings separate. |
| cmi 17.11.2010 03:23 |
I totally agree with Kamenliter's point of view. I think Bonus DVD is a great opportunity to collect all related to the album video stuff in one place, such as promos, interviews, specials, live snippets and etc... And I'll be more pleased to see such major concerts as Rainbow (March/November 1974), Hammersmith 1975, Hyde Park 1976...etc. as separate DVD releases than to receive them as bonus content. But I don't think that if QP ever release Marquee/Rainbow stuff, it will be separate audio or video release. It's most likely will be a bonus stuff or Live Box component. 2 Benn: Check out the latest Paul McCartney & Wings' Band On The Run reissue by Universal. It has 3 options to buy: 1CD (album itself) 2CD+1DVD (album cd+bonus stuff cd and dvd with related video stuff) 3CD+1DVD (same as above + audio documentary CD with hard cover large book) So the Queen reissues also can be released with 2-3 different options for each album. |
| brians wig 17.11.2010 03:32 |
And yet nobody seems to want surround sound mixes of the albums. What's up folks? Aren't you interested in hearing instruments you've either never heard before or barely hear because they're so low in the mix? |
| therhyeman 17.11.2010 03:45 |
brians wig wrote: And yet nobody seems to want surround sound mixes of the albums. What's up folks? Aren't you interested in hearing instruments you've either never heard before or barely hear because they're so low in the mix? More to do with the fact that I haven't got a decent 5:1 system, and can't really be bothered to get one, to be honest. Also, just to point out that all 3 of the Abba Deluxe reissues, apart from the usual b-sides on Disc 1, are coupled with a DVD for the bonus disc. No extra audios at all. I suspect this will be the case for the Queen ones, from Queen II onwards. Queen I may not even be a "deluxe" (i.e. 2-disc) set. When the 7 Moody Blues albums were tackled, only 3 of them were doubles, with the rest featuring any bonus material on the same disc as the original album. Tim |
| cmi 17.11.2010 04:47 |
2 brian wig: Of course 5.1 versions of albums are much appreciated. But it seems DVD-A and SACD today are not much promising formats. I think all multichannel stuff to be released on blu-rays in the future. And it possibly will be a separate project. But it's great to receive adiitional disk in the set with 5.1 new mix. Here are the 1974-1977 assumptions: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SHEER HEART ATTACK (1974 Deluxe 2CD+1DVD edition) CD1 (album) 13 tracks CD2 (studio bonus) Previously released: 1. Flick Of The Wrist (standalone version) 2. Tenement Funster (standalone version) 3. Stone Cold Crazy (1991 Remix) Sessions: X. ? (outtake) X. ? (alternate take) 2011 Remixes/Instrumentals: X. ? DVD: TV appearances: 1. Killer Queen (TOTP version) 2. Killer Queen (Top Pop version) 3. Now I'm Here (TOTP version) (???) Studio/Interviews footage: X. ? Live footage: 1. Tokyo 01.05.75 footage X. ? A NIGHT AT THE OPERA (1975 Deluxe 2CD+1DVD edition) CD1 (album) 12 tracks CD2 (studio bonus) Previously released: 1. I'm In Love With My Car (single version) 2. You're My Best Friend (1991 Remix) 3. I'm In Love With My Car (1991 Remix) Sessions: X. ? (outtake) X. ? (alternate take) 2011 Remixes/Instrumentals: X. ? DVD: Promos: 1. Bohemian Rhapsody 2. You're My Best Friend 3. Bohemian Rhapsody (original 'Flames' version) Studio/Interviews footage: 1. Japanese visit footage X. ? Live footage: 1. Tokyo 01.05.75 footage X. ? A DAY AT THE RACES (1976 Deluxe 2CD+1DVD edition) CD1 (album) 10(11) tracks CD2 (studio bonus) Previously released: 1. Somebody To Love (1991 Remix) 2. Tie Your Mother Down (1991 Remix) 3. Teo Torriatte (2005 High Difinition mix) Sessions: X. ? (outtake) X. ? (alternate take) 2011 Remixes/Instrumentals: X. ? DVD: Promos: 1. Somebody To Love 2. Tie Your Mother Down TV appearances: 1. Good Old-Fashioned Lovr Boy (TOTP version) Studio/Interviews/Making Of footage: X. ? Live footage: X. ? NEWS OF THE WORLD (1977 Deluxe 2CD+1DVD edition) CD1 (album) 11 tracks CD2 (studio bonus) Sessions: X. ? (outtake) X. ? (alternate take) 2011 Remixes/Instrumentals: X. ? DVD: Promos: 1. We Are The Champions 2. We Will Rock You 3. Spread Your Wings 4. We Are The Champions (BBC version) Studio/Interviews/Making Of footage: 1. Making Of WATC video 2. Making Of WWRY/SYW video X. ? Live footage: 1. Munich 03.05.1978 footage X. ? |
| Soundfreak 17.11.2010 11:00 |
Don't expect too much. Take a look at what has happened in case of the Rolling Stones. The regular albums were re-released without any extras and even no new booklets were added. And now one by one they come up with few special releases like "Get yer Yayas out" and recently "Exile on Main street". And considering the wealth of existing material they were very reluctant to release too much extras.... In case of Queen Universal will very likely go the way of offering the regular catalog first with little extras. So that they will still have enough material for later releases. They - and the same goes for Queen - will always keep something in the back. Imagine Queen had allready given all Outtakes and archive stuff to EMI. They would not have been in the position for a big deal with Universal. |
| Benn 17.11.2010 13:02 |
Soundfreak, That's as may be but, and this is all kudos to QPL for being aware, they would have been well aware of the state of their existing contract and negotiations for a new contract would have been well advanced some time ago with EMI in order for QPL to then be able to approach other labels to take them on. Now, either EMI have a good idea about the interest in Queen in the market and decided that Queen weren't worth investing any money in, or, more likely IMO, QPL believed that they were worth *FAR MORE* than EMI were prepared to put on the table given that they have an untapped archive at their disposal and negotiated elsewhere. Either way, QPL hold the upper hand as they so often do and leave us hanging on their every release for something of interest to suddenly appear - I reckon this is their very last chance. |
| Dane 12.01.2011 13:27 |
I was just listening to the 180g vinyl release of Queen II and I must say it sounds soooo clear! Were these new vinyl releases also remastered? If this was the case, then perhaps they will simply release those remasters. Although I believe mastering for vinyl is different to CD. |
| Ron 12.01.2011 14:25 |
All I want is a four disc clear vinyl box set per album, where each disc is one-sided, 45RPM, 200gr, remastered ofcourse. Than that same remastered album on CD. Plus 2 discs worth of outtakes. Plus a disc with instrumentals of the album and unreleased stuff. Plus a disc with 5.1 surround sound mixes. All in a luxury box, autographed by RT, BM and JD. Numbered. Just imagine having 15 of those box sets sitting on your shelf :D It shouldn't be too difficult for labels to be creative if they bring me on board. |
| Thistle 12.01.2011 16:54 |
CMI wrote: Check out the latest Paul McCartney & Wings' Band On The Run reissue by Universal. It has 3 options to buy: 1CD (album itself) 2CD+1DVD (album cd+bonus stuff cd and dvd with related video stuff) 3CD+1DVD (same as above + audio documentary CD with hard cover large book) So the Queen reissues also can be released with 2-3 different options for each album. Oh fuck NO! - the completists out there (myself included) would feel compelled to buy all the available options. Not good for the pocket lol The list you posted originally wouldn't work either, IMHO. The best thing to do would be to release 2cd sets for each album, one having the remasters and the other having demos. There would be no need for singles and b-sides as we got this in 4 volumes and I also agree that any DVD should be separate. Live stuff should be included in a live boxset. But it is all just fantasy. We are never going to get anything remotely near that. |
| brians wig 12.01.2011 19:32 |
RonB wrote: All I want is a four disc clear vinyl box set per album, where each disc is one-sided, 45RPM, 200gr, remastered ofcourse. Than that same remastered album on CD. Plus 2 discs worth of outtakes. Plus a disc with instrumentals of the album and unreleased stuff. Plus a disc with 5.1 surround sound mixes. All in a luxury box, autographed by RT, BM and JD. Numbered. Just imagine having 15 of those box sets shitting on your shelf :D It shouldn't be too difficult for labels to be creative if they bring me on board. --------------------------------------------------------- Sounds good to me, but it'll never happen :( |
| thomasquinn 32989 15.01.2011 14:57 |
brians wig wrote: RonB wrote: All I want is a four disc clear vinyl box set per album, where each disc is one-sided, 45RPM, 200gr, remastered ofcourse. Than that same remastered album on CD. Plus 2 discs worth of outtakes. Plus a disc with instrumentals of the album and unreleased stuff. Plus a disc with 5.1 surround sound mixes. All in a luxury box, autographed by RT, BM and JD. Numbered. Just imagine having 15 of those box sets shitting on your shelf :D It shouldn't be too difficult for labels to be creative if they bring me on board. --------------------------------------------------------- Sounds good to me, but it'll never happen :( ===== Not in the last place because each would have to sell for $100+, which is even assuming that there is material to fill all that. |
| Ron 16.01.2011 03:49 |
I would even buy that if it was $200! Heck I bought Peter Gabriel's Scratch My Back deluxe box which was $299 which only had a record, 2 CD's (which can be bought separately as well), a fancy USB stick and some 'interesting' inserts. Surely they can release at least one big box for ie ANATO? Even Bowie's Station to Station had a deluxe box with not that much interesting contents. Or The Who's Live at Leeds... |
| Pim Derks 16.01.2011 05:25 |
I'd happily fork out $200 for a ANATO box: - New stereo mix on CD - 5.1 mix on DVD-A - CD of Hammersmith - LP of original stereo mix (200g) - LP of Hammersmith (200g) - DVD of Hammersmith - Replica of ANATO-tour programme - Replicas of original 1975 promo/presskits - Artprint of original ANATO/BoRhap tape, as was included in the Absolute Greatest box |
| brians wig 16.01.2011 05:39 |
Good grief people, where do you get your money from? Sure, I'd like that stuff myself, but $200!!!! No Way. |
| Ron 16.01.2011 08:28 |
It's all about making compromises... it's either buying all this stuff or going to the movies, see friends, being social, buy (expensive) clothes and... well.. live :D I prefer the first one :) |
| zephead2112 17.01.2011 09:47 |
Universal have advised a release date of the 14th of March for the first batch of re-issues. On this basis, I’m really surprised that not one piece of information has leaked out with regard to the “additional content”. Not even a hint…… Whatever’s been going on behind the scenes, a substantial amount of work will have gone into the extra content, right down to the liner notes/sleeve design. Given that no official announcement has yet been made regarding the details of the extras, I wonder if it’s a case of those involved being sworn to secrecy or merely down to the fact that this has been/is still a work in progress? Someone somewhere must have an ‘in’ on this, the release date is approaching quickly. Cheers, Keith. |
| cmi 18.01.2011 02:34 |
It seems release date will be post-pointed for a month as always :) Let's hope it won't. |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 18.01.2011 05:23 |
RonB wrote: It's all about making compromises... it's either buying all this stuff or going to the movies, see friends, being social, buy (expensive) clothes and... well.. live :D I prefer the first one :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOL Ron, you sum it up pretty fine! :D |
| zephead2112 18.01.2011 05:56 |
This just in from CDJapan, note the last sentence (I assume that these details refer to the first album ) Reissue from Queen featuring the high-fidelity SHM-CD format (compatible with standard CD players). Part of a five-album Queen SHM-CD reissue series featuring albums "Queen," "Queen II," "Sheer Heart Attack," "A Night at the Opera," and "A Day at the Races." Limited edition comes with a bonus disc with five bonus tracks. Keith. |
| Wilki Amieva 18.01.2011 08:09 |