| pittrek 04.08.2010 04:25 |
Since the sharing section of this forum is basically dead for several months, I want to suggest something to you all. Let's share EVERYTHING. I want to start sharing one or 2 concerts every week, every will be the BEST source I was able to find during the last 10 years, or a COMPILATION of the best sources. The concerts will be chronologically ordered, and will be shared of course in FLAC format. Well ALMOST ALL concerts would be shared. A small number of recordings in my collection is labelled as "RARE TRADES ONLY" or even "NOT FOR TRADE". I don't want to break the promises I gave to the persons who gave these recordings to me, so I will definitely NOT share those, but the original owners are strongly encouraged to share those themselves :-) But there are several problems with my collection. 1. QUALITY - I'm not sure if my recordings are in best available quality, just a quick comparing with link shows alternate sources which I don't have and they are either better, and/or more complete. It would be ideal if OTHER people who have these alternate sources or upgrades to the recordings which I can provide, would SHARE THEIR COPIES. Or even uncirculated recordings ? 2. SPEED - many of the recordings which I have are still running in incorrect speed, usually too fast or too slow. I have fixed most of them already, but I didn't touch the recordings which are in so called "good" quality - I have "remastered" only (almost) excellent sounding recordings. I know that there are people here who can correct the speed / pitch . I used to do it myself when I had time for it, but now it would be great if SOMEBODY COULD CORRECT THE SPEED on these recordings. 3. COVERS - It would be really lovely if EVERY existing audio recordings would have a proper disc label, and cover, maybe even a booklet ? Are here cover artists with enough free time ? I know that Alex Solan and Vali created a lot of great looking covers in the past, but they're pretty quite these days :-) 4. PHOTOS / STORIES etc. - Just look at this thread : link - it's now full of fantastic stories from people who were at the Knebworth concert. Wouldn't it be great if people who visited some of the concerts would share their memories with us ? Even some new photos would be great. So ,,, what do you say ? If I start the sharing, will people help me with at least these 4 points ? I think EVERYBODY would gain something, what do you think ? |
| brians wig 04.08.2010 06:55 |
Great idea. With so many different sources available this is what's really needed to weed out the quality from the naff. ;-) |
| david (galashiels) 04.08.2010 09:31 |
grand idea.. can i ask(forgive my stupidity),how many concerts would there be.. short of space on my external drive lol. but i think a great idea. |
| pittrek 04.08.2010 10:10 |
Thanks, gents. I planned to share everything from Golders Green Hippodrome '73 to South America 2008, so you will probably need to buy a second and third external discs :-) Also I don't have many of the solo shows, so also that part has to be taken by somebody else. BTW both Davids - expect mail from me later today :-) |
| soxtalon 04.08.2010 12:48 |
I would help uploading things I have including solo shows...Only problem is I am far from the audiophile that you all are and don't keep lineage or anything like that. I scour for what I can find and then stash it away. and i have some flac, some MP3...to me it was more important to get SOMETHING than nothing...and I will be glad to get some of it all in flac for once but yeah...I'd say take the ALL Dates from the queenconcerts.com or whatever and go from there (starting with 73 if you want and then just move forward with each date posting the request for what everybody has (maybe every wednesday or something and then we decide who is uploading on friday or what not and then a new one posted every sunday with whatever is decided) |
| david (galashiels) 04.08.2010 14:06 |
bugger me.thats a lot of audio.. |
| Jam Monkey 04.08.2010 15:01 |
I don't really collect the live stuff, mainly because there is so much I woundn't know where to start. However I think the idea of a project is great. This place has been very quiet lately, I think we need something to liven us all up a bit. |
| brians wig 04.08.2010 19:17 |
It's been beautifully quiet lately. Downloading, burning & cataloguing discs takes SO much time. I've actually relished not having anything to download from here lately and it's given me time to do other stuff. |
| The Real Wizard 04.08.2010 23:16 |
I'm in. I'd say we should keep this thread going and do it chronologically from beginning to end. For instance, have a look at 1973: link I have slight upgrades of Oxford (a merge of 2 or 3 versions of the audience tape) and Bristol (a lower gen copy), and I can post them here. Any other thoughts for upgrades? |
| The Real Wizard 05.08.2010 01:15 |
Further thoughts.. Surely it mustn't be too hard to track down audience masters of a few dozen more Queen shows, at least. Zeppelin collectors regularly track down tapers from 1969 and 1970, so there should definitely be enough Queen collectors who are resourceful enough to be able to find tapers from 1973 and later. For starters, what we need to do is get in touch with people prominent in the Rush, Bowie, Who, Zeppelin, and Floyd communities who have engaged in open dialogue with tapers and collectors devoted to spreading the music. Waiting for tapers to turn up on Dime and The Traders' Den is great, but surely we can speed up the process by doing a bit of digging ourselves. This is what led to things like the Portland 74, Boston 77, and Seattle 77 masters emerging in the last few years. There are plenty more out there. |
| Dane 05.08.2010 05:53 |
Great project! I'm willing to spend some time on designing a few covers, I will stay true to the original Queen designs or at least make them look professional. If the content of the CD/DVD can be put online as tekst (dates, tracks etc.) Would be very helpfull. |
| brians wig 05.08.2010 06:39 |
Sir GH wrote: I'm in. I'd say we should keep this thread going and do it chronologically from beginning to end. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's the perfect idea, then we don't miss any concerts. |
| pittrek 05.08.2010 11:27 |
Well 1973 ... Golders Green Hippodrome, London - I think my merge is the best available thing yet, or is there a better one ? Liverpool - well the master copy can't be made any better, can it ? :-) But Stark's master sounds also good Oxford - I have a merge of 2 sources, but it has a gap in Hangman and runs too slow. Kurgan shared an upgrade of the soundcheck, but I'm not sure if he shared also an upgrade of the concert ... Manchester - I have "Opera House Rock" - is there a better version around ? Birmingham - I have "First Procession" Bristol - no idea if my copy is best or not ... |
| pittrek 05.08.2010 11:28 |
brians wig wrote: Sir GH wrote: I'm in. I'd say we should keep this thread going and do it chronologically from beginning to end. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's the perfect idea, then we don't miss any concerts.Fully agree |
| on my way up 05.08.2010 13:29 |
I don't have any rare stuff but I do have almost all that is circulating. I will upload whatever shows are needed:-) So, I'm in:-) |
| on my way up 05.08.2010 13:31 |
Sir GH wrote: Further thoughts.. Surely it mustn't be too hard to track down audience masters of a few dozen more Queen shows, at least. Zeppelin collectors regularly track down tapers from 1969 and 1970, so there should definitely be enough Queen collectors who are resourceful enough to be able to find tapers from 1973 and later. For starters, what we need to do is get in touch with people prominent in the Rush, Bowie, Who, Zeppelin, and Floyd communities who have engaged in open dialogue with tapers and collectors devoted to spreading the music. Waiting for tapers to turn up on Dime and The Traders' Den is great, but surely we can speed up the process by doing a bit of digging ourselves. This is what led to things like the Portland 74, Boston 77, and Seattle 77 masters emerging in the last few years. There are plenty more out there. Also, it'd be great if some Queen-fans who recorded Queen join in. Maybe there are people on this forum who know such Queen collectors?? |
| on my way up 05.08.2010 14:46 |
Also, it could be a great idea to upload all those shows to dime and make contacts there. I'd be willing to do that too (it'd help my bad ratio too;-) |
| Vali 07.08.2010 09:38 |
pittrek wrote: Since the sharing section of this forum is basically dead for several months, I want to suggest something to you all. (...) - - - - - - fantastic Peter; this is what QZ needed. Great idea. The sharing section .. you said it, has been dead for so long. You have my support for anything you need cheers Vali |
| lemonysnick123 07.08.2010 12:11 |
wow, fantastic idea! This really will get this forum going again! |
| bruno_facio 07.08.2010 14:07 |
Very nice idea, it surely will revitalize the forum! Surely I could help upload recordings for this awesome project. |
| The Real Wizard 10.08.2010 00:49 |
pittrek wrote: "Oxford - I have a merge of 2 sources, but it has a gap in Hangman and runs too slow. Kurgan shared an upgrade of the soundcheck, but I'm not sure if he shared also an upgrade of the concert ..." I recall it the other way around - here's the show he shared, but I can't find the soundcheck - link "Manchester - I have "Opera House Rock" - is there a better version around ?" Doesn't seem so. "Bristol - no idea if my copy is best or not ... " Maybe you can post a sample.. ? At the moment the only pending upgrade is Oxford, and I'll post that soon enough. |
| brians wig 11.08.2010 06:07 |
Can I suggest that if people are going to randomly upload stuff as part of this project, then the subject heading should reflect that it's part of this project: Perhaps "Ultimate Queen Live: --insert concert dates here--", for example? |
| pittrek 11.08.2010 06:49 |
Sir GH wrote:Hi, 've been extremely busy last days preparing for an unplanned and very long business trip to Germany, but I'll post a sample soon (together with all the other stuff you wanted)pittrek wrote: "Oxford - I have a merge of 2 sources, but it has a gap in Hangman and runs too slow. Kurgan shared an upgrade of the soundcheck, but I'm not sure if he shared also an upgrade of the concert ..."I recall it the other way around - here's the show he shared, but I can't find the soundcheck - link"Manchester - I have "Opera House Rock" - is there a better version around ?"Doesn't seem so."Bristol - no idea if my copy is best or not ... "Maybe you can post a sample.. ? At the moment the only pending upgrade is Oxford, and I'll post that soon enough. |
| pittrek 11.08.2010 06:50 |
brians wig wrote: Can I suggest that if people are going to randomly upload stuff as part of this project, then the subject heading should reflect that it's part of this project: Perhaps "Ultimate Queen Live: --insert concert dates here--", for example?I like the idea |
| aristide1 11.08.2010 11:13 |
If "people" "randomly" "stuff", who cares what the subject heading should be ? If "collectors" "generously" "new source/better generation", why they need you to tell them how to name their posts ? |
| The Real Wizard 11.08.2010 12:36 |
Aristide1, I actually agree with you for once. People can do their own research to see if a particular version is the best one. Or they can even ask in the thread if it's the definitive version. |
| pittrek 11.08.2010 13:23 |
Here is Big Spender from my version of Bristol : link |
| The Real Wizard 14.08.2010 15:55 |
Cool, thanks for the sample. This is the best version I've heard yet, as there's a lot less tape hiss. Feel free to share it ! |
| Queenrockyou 22.08.2010 04:59 |
Excellent idea, I'm definitely in. I have started a project of an index along with Marco, and so far we have compiled something for year 1973 and 1974. it would be presented as in the Word document that you can download here : link Up to 1975 only at the moment, with all the different sources and versions around in existence, both audio and video. We have included links to the related shares on Queenzone, and you can notice all the versions and sources that have not been shared yet. What would be interesting to do before uploading anything is to check if all the information included is useful and accurate, and if it is correctly organized. After that, we can discuss each date and see what comes out of these discussions. Do you think it is better working that way ? Please have a look at the following post and include your comments. I'll be glad to participate to this ultimate share, but we need something to definitely decide what each version worths compared to others. Thanks a lot to Marco for his excellent work on that project, and for the various Queen fans who created interesting websites concerning Queen live. If this index is useful, we will continue working on following years, and every helpful hand is welcome, just tell me so and we'll share work ;o) Regards, Olivier, Belgium. |
| little foetus 22.08.2010 05:59 |
Am I the only one to be unable to open the doc Olivier shared? |
| deleted user 22.08.2010 06:24 |
pittrek wrote: "Oxford - I have a merge of 2 sources, but it has a gap in Hangman and runs too slow. Kurgan shared an upgrade of the soundcheck, but I'm not sure if he shared also an upgrade of the concert ..." Sir GH wrote: I recall it the other way around - here's the show he shared, but I can't find the soundcheck - link Reply: correct I will upload the sound check upgrade when I have a better tape deck. |
| Queenrockyou 22.08.2010 06:49 |
little foetus wrote: Am I the only one to be unable to open the doc Olivier shared? Do you have an error message or something ? It should be a .doc file, for Word 1997 / 2003. What does Word say when you try to open it ? Here is the document in ".docx" format, that you can open with more recent versions of Word. Tell me if it works better or not. link Regards, Olivier, Belgium. |
| GuitarMay 22.08.2010 09:22 |
What a beautiful and GREAT INITIATIVE, Pittrek !!!!!!!!! Endorse the idea, so we can attract genorisade other sharers and get more Master tapes, alternate sources, etc. that were not circulated, I think. ! All this in the general benefit of having shared the best versions of each show in particular !!! As I can help, count me in !! |
| CESAR BELTRAN M 24.08.2010 15:02 |
why not mega torrents year by year as happened with the 80's concerts 1 year ago? |
| The Real Wizard 25.08.2010 01:51 |
Simply because things get sloppy that way. It's best to download shows one at a time to make sure that nothing gets lost, and that information about every recording is properly divided instead of being in a giant clump. This is all about quality, not quantity. |
| pittrek 25.08.2010 02:10 |
Plus it would be impossible for ME to torrent this with avg. upload speed 70kbps |