QueenZone discussion #1159935

  Dr. Pepper(The Spiceman) wrote: Let me be the first to say: Congratulations! You have managed to find the worst picture of Freddie. Also let me be the first to say: Congratulations! This song is AWESOME, but wait! NAAAH, you almost had me there! Seriously, you brother has some skills with the piano, I give him that. You've turned into a coverband, great!

Micrówave wrote: We, the collective sheep of Queenzone, are giving musical advice to TM. Isn't that like trying to teach Jesus to waterski?

inu-liger wrote: Decent. Needs less strings, I think. And this technically a fan cover in a way, not a remix at all. Remix would have to include re-arranging the original itself in terms of mixing. This isn't far off from all those other YouTube fan (guitar / bass / drum) covers. I'll give too, your brother did some good piano work here. I didn't like the piano overpowering the guitar solo however.

inu-liger wrote: By the way, and let's be serious here, when do you guys plan to announce some new original rock-based material? (particularly songs that aren't piano-driven EuroPop material)

ThomasQuinn wrote: The additional piano provides absolutely nothing apart from a slight thickening of the orchestration, as it does nothing except copy the vocal lines, and thus distract from them, and give the occasional flurry of harmony where, again, nothing is provided that wasn't in the original arrangement. Also, the piano is poorly mixed in, as it is eq-ed badly: too much high end, too little mid range (it should have been mixed to support the synthesizers, not to overtake the vocals). All in all, I think this is a pretty poor effort, but better than usual TM level, mostly because it is mercifully covered up by a good Queen song.

ThomasQuinn wrote:

  Micrówave wrote: We, the collective sheep of Queenzone, are giving musical advice to TM. Isn't that like trying to teach Jesus to waterski?

Yes. And nobody can say we haven't tried.

Treasure Moment wrote:

  ThomasQuinn wrote: The additional piano provides absolutely nothing apart from a slight thickening of the orchestration, as it does nothing except copy the vocal lines, and thus distract from them, and give the occasional flurry of harmony where, again, nothing is provided that wasn't in the original arrangement. Also, the piano is poorly mixed in, as it is eq-ed badly: too much high end, too little mid range (it should have been mixed to support the synthesizers, not to overtake the vocals). All in all, I think this is a pretty poor effort, but better than usual TM level, mostly because it is mercifully covered up by a good Queen song.

Well thomas as you would know by now i dont care what people think we should do or not do, i just shared the song, not waiting for advices as we already know ourselves if its good or not or if it needs something more or not, we are musicians and know what we are doing and the song is just fine as it is.

Of course most of it is thickening the song because we felt that the instrumentation on the original song wasnt thick and it needed that for the song to be stronger but there are some new things other than that added,  you mean the piano melody on the solo is nothing new? Keep complaining about our songs, you should know by now that i dont give a damn what you or anyone else talking shit about us think and giving us "advices"

Treasure Moment wrote:

  ThomasQuinn wrote:  

      Micrówave wrote:   We, the collective sheep of Queenzone, are giving musical advice to TM. Isn't that like trying to teach Jesus to waterski?  

Yes. And nobody can say we haven't tried.

As i said, we are musicians and we know what we are doing and dont need people picking on our music.

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

      inu-liger wrote:   By the way, and let's be serious here, when do you guys plan to announce some new original rock-based material? (particularly songs that aren't piano-driven EuroPop material)  

Most of the songs are piano/synth driven because most of the songs are written on the piano and then the guitar is added on but we have songs that are guitar driven too.

inu-liger wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

  ThomasQuinn wrote:  

      Micrówave wrote:   We, the collective sheep of Queenzone, are giving musical advice to TM. Isn't that like trying to teach Jesus to waterski?  

Yes. And nobody can say we haven't tried.

As i said, we are musicians and we know what we are doing and dont need people picking on our music.

It would help to reduce your music being picked on if you didn't take an up-yours attitude towards us, claiming your band is the best ever, we're all sheep, etc. etc. ... same old bullshit If you would admit your wrongdoings and make an about-face, there IS a chance you'll be forgiven and eventually taken seriously. And I'm not joking when I say this.

ThomasQuinn wrote:

  inu-liger wrote:  

      Treasure Moment wrote:      

              ThomasQuinn wrote:              

                              Micrówave wrote:               We, the collective sheep of Queenzone, are giving musical advice to TM. Isn't that like trying to teach Jesus to waterski?              

Yes. And nobody can say we haven't tried.

As i said, we are musicians and we know what we are doing and dont need people picking on our music.

It would help to reduce your music being picked on if you didn't take an up-yours attitude towards us, claiming your band is the best ever, we're all sheep, etc. etc. ... same old bullshit If you would admit your wrongdoings and make an about-face, there IS a chance you'll be forgiven and eventually taken seriously. And I'm not joking when I say this.

It would also help tremendously if they stopped recording two-chord vamps and calling those "songs". TM seems to believe that a harmonic structure devoid of anything else makes a song.

inu-liger wrote:

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

      ThomasQuinn wrote:      

              Micrówave wrote:       We, the collective sheep of Queenzone, are giving musical advice to TM. Isn't that like trying to teach Jesus to waterski?      

Yes. And nobody can say we haven't tried.

As i said, we are musicians and we know what we are doing and dont need people picking on our music.

It would help to reduce your music being picked on if you didn't take an up-yours attitude towards us, claiming your band is the best ever, we're all sheep, etc. etc. ... same old bullshit If you would admit your wrongdoings and make an about-face, there IS a chance you'll be forgiven and eventually taken seriously. And I'm not joking when I say this.

inu-liger wrote:

      Treasure Moment wrote:      

              inu-liger wrote:       By the way, and let's be serious here, when do you guys plan to announce some new original rock-based material? (particularly songs that aren't piano-driven EuroPop material)      

Most of the songs are piano/synth driven because most of the songs are written on the piano and then the guitar is added on but we have songs that are guitar driven too.

Then why the delay in putting out even new demos with that guitar driven material? Honestly, you should make it a goal to produce and put out more music in this new year, whether or not you and Max perform as TM in the style of BM/RT as Queen (if rumours that Milidrag quitting are true). I would be willing to extend an olive branch in helping produce drum tracks even, and bass too.

Treasure Moment wrote:

  inu-liger wrote:  

   Treasure Moment wrote:    

                              inu-liger wrote:    By the way, and let's be serious here, when do you guys plan to announce some new original rock-based material? (particularly songs that aren't piano-driven EuroPop material)

Most of the songs are piano/synth driven because most of the songs are written on the piano and then the guitar is added on but we have songs that are guitar driven too.

Then why the delay in putting out even new demos with that guitar driven material? Honestly, you should make it a goal to produce and put out more music in this new year, whether or not you and Max perform as TM in the style of BM/RT as Queen (if rumours that Milidrag quitting are true). I would be willing to extend an olive branch in helping produce drum tracks even, and bass too.

we are already an almost full band but thanks anyways, we just need a singer. We have alot of material but havent recorded it.

Treasure Moment wrote:

  inu-liger wrote:  

      Treasure Moment wrote:      

              ThomasQuinn wrote:              

                              Micrówave wrote:               We, the collective sheep of Queenzone, are giving musical advice to TM. Isn't that like trying to teach Jesus to waterski?              

Yes. And nobody can say we haven't tried.

As i said, we are musicians and we know what we are doing and dont need people picking on our music.

It would help to reduce your music being picked on if you didn't take an up-yours attitude towards us, claiming your band is the best ever, we're all sheep, etc. etc. ... same old bullshit If you would admit your wrongdoings and make an about-face, there IS a chance you'll be forgiven and eventually taken seriously. And I'm not joking when I say this.

im just telling it like it is, nothing more or less.

TheWrist wrote: so what's the deal on just adding additional keyboards to the original track??..... it's mostly annoying...

inu-liger wrote:

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

      inu-liger wrote:      

       Treasure Moment wrote:          

                                                              inu-liger wrote:        By the way, and let's be serious here, when do you guys plan to announce some new original rock-based material? (particularly songs that aren't piano-driven EuroPop material)  

Most of the songs are piano/synth driven because most of the songs are written on the piano and then the guitar is added on but we have songs that are guitar driven too.

Then why the delay in putting out even new demos with that guitar driven material? Honestly, you should make it a goal to produce and put out more music in this new year, whether or not you and Max perform as TM in the style of BM/RT as Queen (if rumours that Milidrag quitting are true). I would be willing to extend an olive branch in helping produce drum tracks even, and bass too.

we are already an almost full band but thanks anyways, we just need a singer. We have alot of material but havent recorded it.

I don't suppose you feel like pulling a Brian and leading the band with a dual role as a singer & guitarist then? Or any of the other members for that matter? And what's taking so long to record the backing tracks if I may ask? Surely you could record it, with a vocal guide track, and have it out quicker?

Treasure Moment wrote:

      Dr. Pepper(The Spiceman) wrote:   Let me be the first to say: Congratulations! You have managed to find the worst picture of Freddie. Also let me be the first to say: Congratulations! This song is AWESOME, but wait! NAAAH, you almost had me there! Seriously, you brother has some skills with the piano, I give him that. You've turned into a coverband, great!  

I like that pic and no we arent a cover band, its the original song with added stuff.

Play The Game wrote:

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

              Dr. Pepper(The Spiceman) wrote:       Let me be the first to say: Congratulations! You have managed to find the worst picture of Freddie. Also let me be the first to say: Congratulations! This song is AWESOME, but wait! NAAAH, you almost had me there! Seriously, you brother has some skills with the piano, I give him that. You've turned into a coverband, great!      

I like that pic and no we arent a cover band, its the original song with added stuff.

With a very BRITNEY SPEARS keyboard introduction that your brother added.

Micrówave wrote: We, the collective sheep of Queenzone, are giving musical advice to TM. Isn't that like trying to teach Jesus to waterski?

Marcos Napier wrote:

  Micrówave wrote: We, the collective sheep of Queenzone, are giving musical advice to TM. Isn't that like trying to teach Jesus to waterski?

Without the help of Moses... I dunno.

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

  inu-liger wrote:

   Treasure Moment wrote:    

  inu-liger wrote:

   Treasure Moment wrote:

   inu-liger wrote: By the way, and let's be serious here, when do you guys plan to announce some new original rock-based material? (particularly songs that aren't piano-driven EuroPop material)

Most of the songs are piano/synth driven because most of the songs are written on the piano and then the guitar is added on but we have songs that are guitar driven too.

Then why the delay in putting out even new demos with that guitar driven material? Honestly, you should make it a goal to produce and put out more music in this new year, whether or not you and Max perform as TM in the style of BM/RT as Queen (if rumours that Milidrag quitting are true). I would be willing to extend an olive branch in helping produce drum tracks even, and bass too.

we are already an almost full band but thanks anyways, we just need a singer. We have alot of material but havent recorded it.

I don't suppose you feel like pulling a Brian and leading the band with a dual role as a singer & guitarist then? Or any of the other members for that matter? And what's taking so long to record the backing tracks if I may ask? Surely you could record it, with a vocal guide track, and have it out quicker?

Yeah we have thought about that but im not an experienced singer and i dont think my brother is made for singing either so it has to be something else, sure we could record the new stuff but we arent in a hurry since we dont have a singer right now.

inu-liger wrote:

      Treasure Moment wrote:      

      inu-liger wrote:  

       Treasure Moment wrote:        

      inu-liger wrote:  

       Treasure Moment wrote:  

       inu-liger wrote: By the way, and let's be serious here, when do you guys plan to announce some new original rock-based material? (particularly songs that aren't piano-driven EuroPop material)  

Most of the songs are piano/synth driven because most of the songs are written on the piano and then the guitar is added on but we have songs that are guitar driven too.

Then why the delay in putting out even new demos with that guitar driven material? Honestly, you should make it a goal to produce and put out more music in this new year, whether or not you and Max perform as TM in the style of BM/RT as Queen (if rumours that Milidrag quitting are true). I would be willing to extend an olive branch in helping produce drum tracks even, and bass too.

we are already an almost full band but thanks anyways, we just need a singer. We have alot of material but havent recorded it.

I don't suppose you feel like pulling a Brian and leading the band with a dual role as a singer & guitarist then? Or any of the other members for that matter? And what's taking so long to record the backing tracks if I may ask? Surely you could record it, with a vocal guide track, and have it out quicker?

Yeah we have thought about that but im not an experienced singer and i dont think my brother is made for singing either so it has to be something else, sure we could record the new stuff but we arent in a hurry since we dont have a singer right now.

Well, I'd like to see you make it a goal to at least have some rock material, vocals or no vocals, out by summertime. Something that's honestly not neo-classical, but more Queen-like in rock style, or hard rock in general. I've seen some of your death metal riffs on YouTube, and that's more within my style (although I hate grunge/death metal vocalists, since I can't understand a fucking word they're singing beyond the puke singing I hear otherwise) than keyboard stuff. You've got some good ideas here and there that I wouldn't mind seeing further developed with your band. That keyboard stuff your brother does is better suited for a budget anime background soundtrack (OST) than for 'mainstream'. That kind of stuff will honestly not get you anywhere in the charts anywhere to begin with, regardless if you get signed or release independently.

Treasure Moment wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

Treasure Moment wrote:  

inu-liger wrote:

 Treasure Moment wrote:

 inu-liger wrote: By the way, and let's be serious here, when do you guys plan to announce some new original rock-based material? (particularly songs that aren't piano-driven EuroPop material)

Most of the songs are piano/synth driven because most of the songs are written on the piano and then the guitar is added on but we have songs that are guitar driven too.

Then why the delay in putting out even new demos with that guitar driven material? Honestly, you should make it a goal to produce and put out more music in this new year, whether or not you and Max perform as TM in the style of BM/RT as Queen (if rumours that Milidrag quitting are true). I would be willing to extend an olive branch in helping produce drum tracks even, and bass too.

we are already an almost full band but thanks anyways, we just need a singer. We have alot of material but havent recorded it.

I don't suppose you feel like pulling a Brian and leading the band with a dual role as a singer & guitarist then? Or any of the other members for that matter? And what's taking so long to record the backing tracks if I may ask? Surely you could record it, with a vocal guide track, and have it out quicker?

Yeah we have thought about that but im not an experienced singer and i dont think my brother is made for singing either so it has to be something else, sure we could record the new stuff but we arent in a hurry since we dont have a singer right now.

Well, I'd like to see you make it a goal to at least have some rock material, vocals or no vocals, out by summertime. Something that's honestly not neo-classical, but more Queen-like in rock style, or hard rock in general. I've seen some of your death metal riffs on YouTube, and that's more within my style (although I hate grunge/death metal vocalists, since I can't understand a fucking word they're singing beyond the puke singing I hear otherwise) than keyboard stuff. You've got some good ideas here and there that I wouldn't mind seeing further developed with your band. That keyboard stuff your brother does is better suited for a budget anime background soundtrack (OST) than for 'mainstream'. That kind of stuff will honestly not get you anywhere in the charts anywhere to begin with, regardless if you get signed or release independently.

Well, the death metal stuff i cant use in TM, thats a totally different thing than TM so i have to use that in a  heavier metal band(although my song "transition" has some heavy metal things in it, check it out on the site if you want). The stuff in TM style wise is more like late era Queen, the strings and piano stuff are very much like late Queen stuff so if we cant get anywhere with that then how come Queen did? its not about that anyways, its about doing music we like and we like the stuff we do and thats all that matters, trying to adjust the music to what other people might like is just silly, we play what we like and if other people like it too then great, if not thats ok too but we arent changing.

ThomasQuinn wrote: The additional piano provides absolutely nothing apart from a slight thickening of the orchestration, as it does nothing except copy the vocal lines, and thus distract from them, and give the occasional flurry of harmony where, again, nothing is provided that wasn't in the original arrangement. Also, the piano is poorly mixed in, as it is eq-ed badly: too much high end, too little mid range (it should have been mixed to support the synthesizers, not to overtake the vocals). All in all, I think this is a pretty poor effort, but better than usual TM level, mostly because it is mercifully covered up by a good Queen song.

ThomasQuinn wrote:

  ThomasQuinn wrote: The additional piano provides absolutely nothing apart from a slight thickening of the orchestration, as it does nothing except copy the vocal lines, and thus distract from them, and give the occasional flurry of harmony where, again, nothing is provided that wasn't in the original arrangement. Also, the piano is poorly mixed in, as it is eq-ed badly: too much high end, too little mid range (it should have been mixed to support the synthesizers, not to overtake the vocals). All in all, I think this is a pretty poor effort, but better than usual TM level, mostly because it is mercifully covered up by a good Queen song.

That's all I can say about this vicious abuse of a good song.

inu-liger wrote: You bastard, don't ignore my questions! :-(

inu-liger wrote: I appreciate that you acknowledge what I said about TSMGO & Bijou then, that's fine that you like that certain period of Queen's musical history. Everyone has their likes and dislikes But what irks me and most the other posters is how you go about basically saying that you guys *are* Queen in every way but band member. We have been trying to tell you this for the longest while now, you sound absolutely NOTHING like Queen. There are over 100 fans on this board I'm sure, even if a good portion of them don't post daily here. And many of us, many against the two of you, have said you do not sound like Queen, your music is not very much in any way like Queen, and you guys are certainly not Queen. That doesn't go without saying, on my part, that I can see where in some parts of your songs, like "Tills Jag Faller", where your *influences* from Queen come from, like the brief layered guitar solo, but it at the same time sounds no way like Queen. If you want to sound like Brian May, for starters buy a Red Special guitar. Want more Brian-like tones? Buy the Digitech Brian May pedal (I own one actually! Pretty nice thing), and a Deaky amp made by Vox. The list goes on. Do your research. Otherwise, sure there are a lot of other rock bands out there that use multi-layer guitars and/or harmonies, but they usually do it in their own style, and not that of Queen's. Else you have your own layered sound on the other hand, which is your own and not very Queen-y in a way I could otherwise instantly say "Oh! This sounds like !".

ThomasQuinn wrote: There is absolutely *nothing* classical about your music. What in the name of sh*t do you call classical?

ThomasQuinn wrote: Little boy, I compose film music; I study music theory (and the whole point about classical music is that it revolves, one way or another, about *classical theory*; that's the main difference with other styles; no other style of music demands so absolutely and strenuously that composers are familiar with theory), I study philosophy of music, I have analyzed quite a number of compositions, classical and other, and I concern myself with music in every way I can. Do not tell me that I do not know music, because you are making a fool of yourself. It is the one thing I can be absolutely sure I know more about than you. And you still haven't answered my question: what is classical music, according to you? And what is classical about *your* music?

ThomasQuinn wrote: Now you actually made me laugh. Thanks for that! I'm absolutely positive now that you are completely phony.

Treasure Moment wrote:

ThomasQuinn wrote: Little boy, I compose film music; I study music theory (and the whole point about classical music is that it revolves, one way or another, about *classical theory*; that's the main difference with other styles; no other style of music demands so absolutely and strenuously that composers are familiar with theory), I study philosophy of music, I have analyzed quite a number of compositions, classical and other, and I concern myself with music in every way I can. Do not tell me that I do not know music, because you are making a fool of yourself. It is the one thing I can be absolutely sure I know more about than you. And you still haven't answered my question: what is classical music, according to you? And what is classical about *your* music?

i dont know or care about music theory so i cant explain it that but i just know when i hear it. Our music has alot of classical influence and its better than anything you could ever compose, im just saying this because you constantly talk shit about us, must be cause of jealousy :D

Treasure Moment wrote: i dont know or care about music theory so i cant explain it that but i just know when i hear it.

Thomas Quitler wrote: Little boy, I compose film music; I study music theory, I study philosophy of music, I have analyzed quite a number of compositions, classical and other, and I concern myself with music in every way I can.

Micrówave wrote: No, I have no life compared to you, oh great one. I don't compose film music; I don't study music theory anymore, I don't study philosophy of music, I have never analyzed quite a number of compositions, classical and other, and I ignore music in every way I can. What do you suggest, Kal-El? But now that you had your ass handed to you in the Gaza thread, you probably are searching for something as well.  Watch out for that green glowing rock from space. (I think this is the point where you should call me a nazi again... just for fun!)

Flush_Gurdun wrote: Sorry... this is horrible to listen to and very over powering on the ears... too much happening all over. The guy playing keyboards obviously plays well, but this would have sounded better maybe as a cover, not using the original. (Although it may have just sounded like a well produced midi file). I checked your MySpace and really can't hear any Queen resemblance though. Reminded me of Enigma straight off though, which is no bad thing. (The BEST BAND EVER footage on YouTube is dire).

ThomasQuinn wrote:

  Micrówave wrote: No, I have no life compared to you, oh great one. I don't compose film music; I don't study music theory anymore, I don't study philosophy of music, I have never analyzed quite a number of compositions, classical and other, and I ignore music in every way I can. What do you suggest, Kal-El? But now that you had your ass handed to you in the Gaza thread, you probably are searching for something as well.  Watch out for that green glowing rock from space. (I think this is the point where you should call me a nazi again... just for fun!)

Ah yeah, when I'm accused of not knowing anything about music, citing my credentials is the very last thing I should do, of course. And naturally, you "handed my ass to me". Also, a giant fireball destroyed France, pigs fly and you were absolutely right. Do you want me to talk more bullshit, or will this do for you?

inu-liger wrote:

              Treasure Moment wrote:              

                              ThomasQuinn wrote:               Little boy, I compose film music; I study music theory (and the whole point about classical music is that it revolves, one way or another, about *classical theory*; that's the main difference with other styles; no other style of music demands so absolutely and strenuously that composers are familiar with theory), I study philosophy of music, I have analyzed quite a number of compositions, classical and other, and I concern myself with music in every way I can. Do not tell me that I do not know music, because you are making a fool of yourself. It is the one thing I can be absolutely sure I know more about than you. And you still haven't answered my question: what is classical music, according to you? And what is classical about *your* music?              

i dont know or care about music theory so i cant explain it that but i just know when i hear it. Our music has alot of classical influence and its better than anything you could ever compose, im just saying this because you constantly talk shit about us, must be cause of jealousy :D

Your 'classical music' is about as classical as 1998 Britney Spears. Honestly, you either KNOW music theory by written and studied definition, or you don't. You obviously don't know, because you only go by a half-assed assumption that you understand it just because you only listen to classical music as a casual listener, not as a student taking the real deal (academic course) in a controlled, verifiable environment.

Treasure Moment wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

 Treasure Moment wrote:

 ThomasQuinn wrote:  Little boy, I compose film music; I study music theory (and the whole point about classical music is that it revolves, one way or another, about *classical theory*; that's the main difference with other styles; no other style of music demands so absolutely and strenuously that composers are familiar with theory), I study philosophy of music, I have analyzed quite a number of compositions, classical and other, and I concern myself with music in every way I can. Do not tell me that I do not know music, because you are making a fool of yourself. It is the one thing I can be absolutely sure I know more about than you. And you still haven't answered my question: what is classical music, according to you? And what is classical about *your* music?

  I dont know or care about music theory so i cant explain it that but i just know when i hear it. Our music has alot of classical influence and its better than anything you could ever compose, im just saying this because you constantly talk shit about us, must be cause of jealousy :D

Your 'classical music' is about as classical as 1998 Britney Spears. Honestly, you either KNOW music theory by written and studied definition, or you don't. You obviously don't know, because you only go by a half-assed assumption that you understand it just because you only listen to classical music as a casual listener, not as a student taking the real deal (academic course) in a controlled, verifiable environment.

I can HEAR if we have classical influence or not, simple as that, i dont need unnecessary music education, we go by feeling. Whatever you want to call it, we call it good music that has depth and is creative and not predictable and has emotion.

Micrówave wrote: No, I have no life compared to you, oh great one. I don't compose film music; I don't study music theory anymore, I don't study philosophy of music, I have never analyzed quite a number of compositions, classical and other, and I ignore music in every way I can. What do you suggest, Kal-El? But now that you had your ass handed to you in the Gaza thread, you probably are searching for something as well.  Watch out for that green glowing rock from space. (I think this is the point where you should call me a nazi again... just for fun!)

Zebonka12 wrote: I dunno guys. I think this is way better But what would I know, I'm just a mindless sheep!

inu-liger wrote:

      Zebonka12 wrote:   I dunno guys. I think this is way better But what would I know, I'm just a mindless sheep!  

Haha! TM clearly looks, as I said before, pretty uncomfortable there, and takes over a minute to realize his amp isn't really on, and misses the first note or two going into the chorus. Notice how he tries to hide from sight to the side, behind the stage props?

ThomasQuinn wrote: TM's music creative, and not predictable? So playing arpeggios while never leaving the home key is creative and unpredictable now? And "classically influenced" because TM thinks it 'sounds classical'? I'm beginning to wonder if TM is speaking an entirely different language from the rest of us (Newspeak comes to mind; if not that, it's probably Double Dutch). My question stands: what, TM, do you call classical music?

inu-liger wrote:

      Treasure Moment wrote:      

              inu-liger wrote:              

                                                                       Treasure Moment wrote:                                                                      

                                                                                                                               ThomasQuinn wrote:                                                                        Little boy, I compose film music; I study music theory (and the whole point about classical music is that it revolves, one way or another, about *classical theory*; that's the main difference with other styles; no other style of music demands so absolutely and strenuously that composers are familiar with theory), I study philosophy of music, I have analyzed quite a number of compositions, classical and other, and I concern myself with music in every way I can. Do not tell me that I do not know music, because you are making a fool of yourself. It is the one thing I can be absolutely sure I know more about than you. And you still haven't answered my question: what is classical music, according to you? And what is classical about *your* music?                                                                      

  I dont know or care about music theory so i cant explain it that but i just know when i hear it. Our music has alot of classical influence and its better than anything you could ever compose, im just saying this because you constantly talk shit about us, must be cause of jealousy :D

Your 'classical music' is about as classical as 1998 Britney Spears. Honestly, you either KNOW music theory by written and studied definition, or you don't. You obviously don't know, because you only go by a half-assed assumption that you understand it just because you only listen to classical music as a casual listener, not as a student taking the real deal (academic course) in a controlled, verifiable environment.

I can HEAR if we have classical influence or not, simple as that, i dont need unnecessary music education, we go by feeling. Whatever you want to call it, we call it good music that has depth and is creative and not predictable and has emotion.

Bolded for clarification: YOU think it's good music. Unfortunately, most of us don't think that way. Also, I hardly think your music is unpredictable (Why do I get the feeling you guys always think you have the newest 'Bohemian Rhapsody' every time you come up with a crap demo?) OK, certainly YOU can hear where YOUR influence comes from, but also WE don't think it's classical in the true sense of the word at all. That said, you can't go around calling your music 'classical'. That music genre belongs to the REAL people who made REAL classical music centuries ago. I'm sure they call it classical for a reason, and therefore have the music theory courses taught in academic settings. At best, 'neo-classical' would be more proper for your style. Do you honestly think you're any better than classical composers like Beethoven or Pachelbel? Until you take music theory and demonstrate a proficient knowledge of it, you're only going to get your ass laughed at continuously over and over for your grand claims. Anyways, please less classical and more ROCK.

Treasure Moment wrote:

ThomasQuinn wrote: TM's music creative, and not predictable? So playing arpeggios while never leaving the home key is creative and unpredictable now? And "classically influenced" because TM thinks it 'sounds classical'? I'm beginning to wonder if TM is speaking an entirely different language from the rest of us (Newspeak comes to mind; if not that, it's probably Double Dutch). My question stands: what, TM, do you call classical music?

what do you think? silly question

ThomasQuinn wrote:

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

      ThomasQuinn wrote:   TM's music creative, and not predictable? So playing arpeggios while never leaving the home key is creative and unpredictable now? And "classically influenced" because TM thinks it 'sounds classical'? I'm beginning to wonder if TM is speaking an entirely different language from the rest of us (Newspeak comes to mind; if not that, it's probably Double Dutch). My question stands: what, TM, do you call classical music?  

what do you think? silly question

Be honest; you don't know, do you?

Treasure Moment wrote:

ThomasQuinn wrote:

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

      ThomasQuinn wrote:   TM's music creative, and not predictable? So playing arpeggios while never leaving the home key is creative and unpredictable now? And "classically influenced" because TM thinks it 'sounds classical'? I'm beginning to wonder if TM is speaking an entirely different language from the rest of us (Newspeak comes to mind; if not that, it's probably Double Dutch). My question stands: what, TM, do you call classical music?  

what do you think? silly question

Be honest; you don't know, do you?

dont be an idiot, its so obvious its embaressing that you ask, mozart, beethoven, chopin etc, stop making a big deal out of it, we have some classical influence and thats it, none of the mainstream bands can compare with tm, fact.

knakenrudi wrote:

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

      ThomasQuinn wrote:      

              Treasure Moment wrote:              

                              ThomasQuinn wrote:               TM's music creative, and not predictable? So playing arpeggios while never leaving the home key is creative and unpredictable now? And "classically influenced" because TM thinks it 'sounds classical'? I'm beginning to wonder if TM is speaking an entirely different language from the rest of us (Newspeak comes to mind; if not that, it's probably Double Dutch). My question stands: what, TM, do you call classical music?              

what do you think? silly question

Be honest; you don't know, do you?

dont be an idiot, its so obvious its embaressing that you ask, mozart, beethoven, chopin etc, stop making a big deal out of it, we have some classical influence and thats it, none of the mainstream bands can compare with tm, fact.

Would you consider Messiaen a classical composer?

knakenrudi wrote: Agree totally with TQ. Mr. moment, if you consider your predictable series of arpeggios to be groundbreaking, let your keyboardbrother have a go at a piece like "Apparition de l'eglise eternelle' by Messiaen (which I'm studying at this moment), classical music or not. Could be an eye-opener, although I consider this music to be art that goes above your head and intellect.

Treasure Moment wrote:

knakenrudi wrote: Agree totally with TQ. Mr. moment, if you consider your predictable series of arpeggios to be groundbreaking, let your keyboardbrother have a go at a piece like "Apparition de l'eglise eternelle' by Messiaen (which I'm studying at this moment), classical music or not. Could be an eye-opener, although I consider this music to be art that goes above your head and intellect.

my brother is about 1 million times better than messiaen when it comes to to composing good catchy emotional deep music, FACT. That messiaen guy is good at writing the most uncatchy most emotionless garbage possible, random uncatchy stuff is so good.................

inu-liger wrote:

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

      knakenrudi wrote:   Agree totally with TQ. Mr. moment, if you consider your predictable series of arpeggios to be groundbreaking, let your keyboardbrother have a go at a piece like "Apparition de l'eglise eternelle' by Messiaen (which I'm studying at this moment), classical music or not. Could be an eye-opener, although I consider this music to be art that goes above your head and intellect.  

my brother is about 1 million times better than messiaen when it comes to to composing good catchy emotional deep music, FACT. That messiaen guy is good at writing the most uncatchy most emotionless garbage possible, random uncatchy stuff is so good.................

You officially deserve to be packed in a box with enriched uranium marked 'Return to Sender' en route to Iran.

Treasure Moment wrote:

inu-liger wrote:

 Treasure Moment wrote:

 knakenrudi wrote:  Agree totally with TQ. Mr. moment, if you consider your predictable series of arpeggios to be groundbreaking, let your keyboardbrother have a go at a piece like "Apparition de l'eglise eternelle' by Messiaen (which I'm studying at this moment), classical music or not. Could be an eye-opener, although I consider this music to be art that goes above your head and intellect.

my brother is about 1 million times better than messiaen when it comes to to composing good catchy emotional deep music, FACT. That messiaen guy is good at writing the most uncatchy most emotionless garbage possible, random uncatchy stuff is so good.................

You officially deserve to be packed in a box with enriched uranium marked 'Return to Sender' en route to Iran.

just telling facts.

inu-liger wrote:

  Treasure Moment wrote:  

      inu-liger wrote:      

               Treasure Moment wrote:      

                   knakenrudi wrote:                Agree totally with TQ. Mr. moment, if you consider your predictable series of arpeggios to be groundbreaking, let your keyboardbrother have a go at a piece like "Apparition de l'eglise eternelle' by Messiaen (which I'm studying at this moment), classical music or not. Could be an eye-opener, although I consider this music to be art that goes above your head and intellect.      

my brother is about 1 million times better than messiaen when it comes to to composing good catchy emotional deep music, FACT. That messiaen guy is good at writing the most uncatchy most emotionless garbage possible, random uncatchy stuff is so good.................

You officially deserve to be packed in a box with enriched uranium marked 'Return to Sender' en route to Iran.

just telling facts.

Is having gay sex with your brother also a fact of life?

ThomasQuinn wrote: I'm just happy that the chances of him ever reproducing are so limited.

ThomasQuinn wrote: Wow. That was almost as original as a "your momma"-joke. Also note that he never denies the accusations of gay incestuous sex.

ThomasQuinn wrote: Also note that he never denies the accusations of gay incestuous sex.

ThomasQuinn wrote: Yeah, I'm as gay as a daffodil, and incidentally also as straight as a line.

inu-liger wrote:

ThomasQuinn wrote: Also note that he never denies the accusations of gay incestuous sex.

Indeed. Maybe that's why their music is so gay. They inces......er, insist on making it as close to Freddie's 'classical' style, but they couldn't figure it out (and still can't) how to do so, and in the process decided to have gay sex to be one step more like their hero, to see if they could (unsuccessfully) unlock the secret, instead giving each other AIDS in the process. You lose one, you gain one I guess :-/

inu-liger wrote:

ThomasQuinn wrote: Yeah, I'm as gay as a daffodil, and incidentally also as straight as a line.

Are you as round as a ball? Or square like a...............square? (You know they say it's 'hip to be square' [img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img])