| pittrek 12.03.2008 04:45 |
As promised, here is the first year of the "project". This time I will share 2 concerts, the first one is from Golders Green Hippodrome in London, 13. September 1973 and Liverpool stadium 17. November 1973. Band : Queen Venue : Golders Green Hippodrome, London, UK Date : 13. September 1973 This is a 3-source compilation of this great recording. This is the oldest Queen live recording which made it to the bootleg market. Two older recordings are rumoured - Ewell College 1971 and Marquee Club 1972, but it seems that Ewell College doesn't exist (the recording is actually a slowed-down version of the rock'n'roll medley coming from this concert), and the Marquee 72 recording was sold to Queen Productions (but they claim now that the don't have it), which means that this is the oldest Queen show we can get. The performance is incredibble. The sound quality is absolutely excellent, the only problem is that Freddie's vocal is mixed too low, it sounds like the band is standing right before you, but Freddie sings from another room. But still it's very enjoyable. This show was bootleged many, many times, but never in complete form. The most complete version comes from the "Digital Queen Archives" bootleg called "Queen Will Be Crowned", which misses one line from the introduction, and has a couple of small few seconds cuts. When this recording was shared on QueenZone (link, QZ user "stark" remastered it and shared it again. This remaster was used by me in this project as "source 1". My "source 2" was a different rebroadcast of this show, I used only one line from the intro from this source. My "source 3" comes from the "Wardour" silver bootleg called "Pop Spectacular". This recording has much, much better sound quality then all other recodings, because it comes from a BBC Transcription disc. The bad thing is that it misses a big part of Father To Son, some speeches, See What A Fool I've Been and all songs after Liar. I have used all 3 sources to create this compilation which is now for the very first time COMPLETE and every track has BEST AVAILABLE SOUND QUALITY. The editing was done in Cool Edit Pro. The final wav file was split to single tracks, which were SBE fixed and encoded to FLAC with Trader's Little Helper. TLH was also used for FLAC fingerprints. I have added an Audiochecker log file. Enjoy Lineup : Freddie Mercury - vocals Roger Meddows-Taylor - percussion Deacon John - bass Brian May - guitar Lineage : Source 1 : SBD > BBC radio > ? > "Queen Will Be Crowned" (Digital Queen Archives) silvers > EAC > WAV > FLAC (Flac Frontend level 8) > WAV > Har-bal > Wavelab > FLAC (Flac Frontend level 8) - marked as * Source 2 : SBD > BBC radio (unknown rebroadcast) > ? > CDR (x) - marked as ** Source 3 : SBD > BBC Transcription disc > ? > "Pop Spectacular" (Wardour) silver - marked as *** Tracklist : 1. Introduction (***, one line filled from **) 2. Procession (***) 3. Father To Son (***, gaps filled with *) 4. Son And Daughter (***, end from *) 5. Queen and synthesisers (*) 6. See What A Fool I've Been (*) 7. Ogre Battle (***) 8. Band Introduction (***) 9. Liar (***, end from *) 10. Jailhouse Rock (*) 11. Big Spender (*) 12. Bama Lama Bama Loo (*, end from ***) Download links : link link link More information link Band : Queen Venue : Stadium, Liverpool, UK Date : 13. September 1973 Lineage : Ken Testi's Master Cassette > WAV > CDR |
| daffy_the_duck 12.03.2008 05:22 |
Good job Pittrek! I think the Portland's gig and the Rainbows one (in March) are both good shows in the 2nd tour. Cologne in december too. And just a idea: don't you believe it could be better to separate each topic by tour instead of by year? Whatever thx for everything! take care |
| Queenrockyou 12.03.2008 05:59 |
Thanks for your work Pittrek, no the first year is online. I will have to wait before downloading but I am sure you made a very good job on this ! As far as 1974 is concerned, no doubt Portland could be shared in your "The Best Of the Best Of Concerts" series. Regards, Olivier, France. |
| PBB 12.03.2008 06:23 |
Thank you very much. I already have Liverpool, as it was shared recently, november? I guess this version should be rated, as the definitive version then? :-) |
| Raffy 12.03.2008 06:26 |
Thanks. This is great! |
| Fmarton 12.03.2008 07:07 |
Thanks for this great shows.For the next year Portland is the best.I have it and it's brilliant. |
| on my way up 12.03.2008 08:54 |
Great uploads! Essential for 1974 are indeed the Portland show and the best march Rainbow version. And Cologne is pretty good aswell. All these shows have been online in recent times though. |
| pittrek 12.03.2008 09:07 |
Thanks for all the comments. -----> Could somebody create some artwork for this ? <----------------------------------------------- My plan for 1974 (next week) would be SirGH's 3 source compilation of Rainbow March 74 (no, it wasn't shared here I think) - if Bob has nothing against it, Portland 74 - I'm not sure if it was shared here in non-torrent form, and maybe I'll reupload my speed corrected version of Cologne ? |
| The Real Wizard 12.03.2008 10:32 |
The only difference in my version is a few seconds taken from the video of Son And Daughter. Is it really worth it...!?? :) |
| rocktheflash 12.03.2008 10:46 |
thank you! |
| Bo Alex 12.03.2008 11:43 |
Thank you very much !!!! I'll take a try with FLAC files....but somebody can tell me how to burn FLAC directly into an Audio cd? I get a "plug in" just like Olivier suggested to me, but I don't know how to install it with my Nero 7 (it's a .ddl file, extension of the aplication). Another question, maybe silly for some of you: If I can't burn FLAC directly and I have to convert them to WAV firstly, does it loses quality? I notify Wav is more heavier than FLAC but...Is the quality the same to make a losless audio cd? Thanks again Pittrek for your idea of "Best of the best" and your excellent post. Sorry my english. Cheers!!! |
| The Real Wizard 12.03.2008 11:47 |
Bo Alex wrote: Another question, maybe silly for some of you: If I can't burn FLAC directly and I have to convert them to WAV firstly, does it loses quality? I notify Wav is more heavier than FLAC but...Is the quality the same to make a losless audio cd?FLAC is like a WinZip file. It makes the file smaller without losing any quality/information. So you can go back and forth as many times as you'd like and it will sound the same. Download a program called "FLAC Frontend" to convert them to WAV, and from there you can burn the WAV files to CD. |
| pittrek 12.03.2008 11:53 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: The only difference in my version is a few seconds taken from the video of Son And Daughter. Is it really worth it...!?? :)Yes, it is :-) I'm trying to put here the best (allowed) versions |
| Fmarton 12.03.2008 11:54 |
It would be interesting to have a history of these recordings.For example when(the year) it has showed up on the bootleg market, or in collectors circuit.When did the complete recording appeared, if it was incomplete before etc.It's possible ? |
| pittrek 12.03.2008 11:55 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Or if you want to burn an audio CD with Nero, there is a free flac plugin available which will "teach" Nero how to work with flac files.Bo Alex wrote: Another question, maybe silly for some of you: If I can't burn FLAC directly and I have to convert them to WAV firstly, does it loses quality? I notify Wav is more heavier than FLAC but...Is the quality the same to make a losless audio cd?FLAC is like a WinZip file. It makes the file smaller without losing any quality/information. So you can go back and forth as many times as you'd like and it will sound the same. Download a program called "FLAC Frontend" to convert them to WAV, and from there you can burn the WAV files to CD. Or use a program which supports burning audio cds from flac files |
| Faroukqch 12.03.2008 12:00 |
THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH!!!!! GREAT IDEA :) |
| Bo Alex 12.03.2008 12:18 |
Finally, I get the plugin to burn FLAC directly. (with Nero into an audio cd). Here you can download it. link And here are the instructions to unzip the .ddl file: "Usage instructions: Download the plugins you need Nero Burning ROM version 5.5.9.0 or higher is required for all plugins. For Nero version 5, unzip the plugin DLL into "...\Ahead\Shared\AudioPlugins" directory. For Nero version 6, unzip the plugin DLL into "\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\AudioPlugins" directory. Do not rename the files - The first two letters of the plugin DLL name must be "nx" in lower case, otherwise it won't be recognized by Nero Burning ROM. works fine" I still have a doubt about Flac: Level 8 is lossless than level 1 (I mean it's better) or level 1 is better than level 8? Sorry for that stupid question, but I stil need some more information. Thanks Sir Gh and pitrek for your answers... |
| Marknow 12.03.2008 12:21 |
Nice work pittrek. |
| NickName 12.03.2008 12:31 |
Bo Alex wrote: ...I still have a doubt about Flac: Level 8 is lossless than level 1 (I mean it's better) or level 1 is better than level 8? Sorry for that stupid question, but I stil need some more information.Level 1 is less lossless than Level 8... but more lossless than mp3! ;-) |
| Bo Alex 12.03.2008 12:34 |
NickName wrote:Thanks, now I got it.So the better available is level 8.Bo Alex wrote: ...I still have a doubt about Flac: Level 8 is lossless than level 1 (I mean it's better) or level 1 is better than level 8? Sorry for that stupid question, but I stil need some more information.Level 1 is less lossless than Level 8... but more lossless than mp3! ;-) |
| Vali 12.03.2008 15:49 |
well done pittrek, and many thanks |
| Queenrockyou 12.03.2008 16:00 |
Welcome in the Flac world, Bo Alex, hope you will enjoy it !! Listen to good music without losing information on the way, trade the files with other fans to get other shows (provided you don't erase the files), make new friends, and so on... Enjoy it ! You maybe still have to learn about lineage now, last thing important. It might take you some tries before really understanding it all, but only a few ones, as these are new software to you maybe, and I am sure you will take benefit from it and enjoy Pittrek's shares for a start ! Glad you accepted to try yourself with the lossless format. So on your marks, go, download-download-download !!! ;o) Regards, Olivier, France. |
| little foetus 12.03.2008 16:50 |
NickName wrote:Level 1 is as lossless as Level 8. The difference is the time you take to compress and the size of the flac file. Level 1 makes big files and little time to compress, level 8 makes small files and high time to compress.Bo Alex wrote: ...I still have a doubt about Flac: Level 8 is lossless than level 1 (I mean it's better) or level 1 is better than level 8? Sorry for that stupid question, but I stil need some more information.Level 1 is less lossless than Level 8... but more lossless than mp3! ;-) |
| Rami 12.03.2008 16:54 |
Thank you very much for your efforts!! |
| Queenrockyou 12.03.2008 18:27 |
Thanks little foetus for explaining this point. Also, as the Flac are somewhat compressed but without losing information, remember that when you compress using Winrar, you have to choose a level of compression (don't know how it is presented in english). You have to choose "no compression", or "store only" or something like that (in French it is "Stockage"). If you let Winrar compress the Flacs, they won't be that lossless anymore ! But back to the topic. I know about 5 concerts in 1974 : the Rainbow concert 31 March 1974, Portland 28 April 1974, New York 07 May 1974, Liverpool 01 November 1974 Cologne 06 December 1974 Bob's wonderful website talks about other recordings for 1974: New Orleans 21 April 1974 Waterbury 04 May 1974 Manchester 30 October 1974 Bradford 06 November 1974 Glasgow 08 November 1974 London 20 November 1974 Brussels 10 December 1974 Do someone know how do these gigs sound like ? Could they be added to 1974's shares as some of the "best RoIo's" ? regards, Olivier, France. |
| Bo Alex 12.03.2008 18:51 |
Thanks Olivier for the welcome to Flac world!!! and thanks Little Foetus for the Flac levels explanation!! |
| The Real Wizard 13.03.2008 00:53 |
Fmarton wrote: It would be interesting to have a history of these recordings.For example when(the year) it has showed up on the bootleg market, or in collectors circuit.When did the complete recording appeared, if it was incomplete before etc.It's possible ?Check link for these kinds of details for the Golders Green recordings. Liverpool emerged 3 or 4 years ago. |
| little foetus 13.03.2008 02:10 |
ruth.olivier wrote: Bob's wonderful website talks about other recordings for 1974: New Orleans 21 April 1974 Waterbury 04 May 1974 Manchester 30 October 1974 Bradford 06 November 1974 Glasgow 08 November 1974 London 20 November 1974 Brussels 10 December 1974Manchester, Glasgow and Brussels are only for die hard collectors in my opinion. London is great but full of overdubs. New Orleans is not bad in my opinion but could be better. Waterbury and Bradford are average in my opinion and not so easy to listen to. |
| Fmarton 13.03.2008 02:16 |
Not too much info about GGH on that site, but thanks anyway. |
| The Real Wizard 13.03.2008 02:29 |
Fmarton wrote: Not too much info about GGH on that site, but thanks anyway.Are you sure!? I checked it out and it says Queen Will Be Crowned came out in September 04, and Pop Spectacular came out in July 05. These CDs are the only sources for these particular versions that I know of. Anything else? I'm happy to answer anything if I'm able. |
| pittrek 13.03.2008 04:14 |
daffy_the_duck wrote: And just a idea: don't you believe it could be better to separate each topic by tour instead of by year?No, sorry, I am planning to put here NOT only Queen concerts, but simply best sounding "events" for every year which features at least one Queen member. |
| pittrek 13.03.2008 04:17 |
ruth.olivier wrote: But back to the topic. I know about 5 concerts in 1974 : the Rainbow concert 31 March 1974, Portland 28 April 1974, New York 07 May 1974, Cologne 06 December 1974An all of them have pretty good for 1974 sound Bob's wonderful website talks about other recordings for 1974: New Orleans 21 April 1974 Waterbury 04 May 1974 Manchester 30 October 1974 Bradford 06 November 1974 Glasgow 08 November 1974 London 20 November 1974 Brussels 10 December 1974 Do someone know how do these gigs sound like ? Could they be added to 1974's shares as some of the "best RoIo's" ?London 20.11.1974 is the included on the official "Live At The Rainbow" VHS. The others are pretty good concert, but the sounds is much worse then the concerts above |
| little foetus 13.03.2008 05:31 |
Am I missing something? The Liverpool 74 is crappy in my opinion. Has a new recording surfaced? About New York 74, it is not so great in my opinion. According to me, the best sounding of 74 are: - The two recordings of March and November at the Rainbow. - Portland. - Cologne which is worse than the first recordings but which captures the whole performance in enough decent quality. Another which is quite nice is New Orleans and it includes GKR so it would be a great share. Although Portland is much better. The other recordings of 74 are from really crappy (Glasgow, Brussels) to below average. |
| pittrek 13.03.2008 05:56 |
Yep, I've changed it to "pretty good for 1974" :-) |
| Queenrockyou 13.03.2008 07:08 |
OK, I'm sad I missed the other ones from 1974, even if the sound is less interesting. I would be happy to see those gigs shared anew on Queenzone, I probably missed these ones because they were shared as torrents and not via rapidshare or mediafire. Do you think these gigs could be shared here, maybe not in the "Best Of The Best concerts" series Pittrek started here, but as separate shares, just to be more complete ? Anyone interested ? Regards, Olivier, France. |
| Fmarton 13.03.2008 15:28 |
Thanks Sir GH for the info.And I'm sorry for being negligent with looking for the information.Of course you were right. It feels very good to be in a community like this.God bless you all. |
| RoyThomasBaker 13.03.2008 15:49 |
ruth.olivier wrote: OK, I'm sad I missed the other ones from 1974, even if the sound is less interesting. I would be happy to see those gigs shared anew on Queenzone, I probably missed these ones because they were shared as torrents and not via rapidshare or mediafire. Do you think these gigs could be shared here, maybe not in the "Best Of The Best concerts" series Pittrek started here, but as separate shares, just to be more complete ? Anyone interested ? Regards, Olivier, France.Count on me, Olivier. link |
| Queenrockyou 13.03.2008 17:27 |
Thanks Roy, I appreciate the move ! For info, the previous link is for the Waterbury show. great, man ! Regards, Olivier, France. |
| maggiko foka 13.03.2008 17:32 |
Hi Pittrek thanks for opening your vault. MEDIAFIRE HAS BEEN DOWN FOR LONG TIME, any chance to reuplod to rapidshare ? ThanXaloT |
| pittrek 14.03.2008 03:56 |
maggiko foka wrote: Hi Pittrek thanks for opening your vault. MEDIAFIRE HAS BEEN DOWN FOR LONG TIME, any chance to reuplod to rapidshare ? ThanXaloTHi, what do you mean with that ? I've checked the links and they appear to be fully working |
| Queenrockyou 14.03.2008 04:41 |
Yep, mediafire was in maintenance yesterday, but everything seems better now. Regards, Olivier, France. |
| maggiko foka 14.03.2008 04:43 |
i was unable to connect to MF yesterday and i read about problems from somebody else too. Now it's ok and i'm downloading from MF. ThanXaloT for your all your shares and your great idea about Best of Best. LongLiveTheQueen |
| GiantSpider 14.03.2008 20:57 |
Yay, cheers Pittrek, can't wait for 1974. |
| Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 19.03.2008 07:35 |
THANK YOU very much Pittrek!!! |
| Bobby_brown 19.03.2008 20:44 |
Thanks a lot for this Pittrek. Take care |
| tassilo 22.03.2008 10:06 |
Thank you very much for your efforts! |
| Farrokh The Great 27.03.2008 23:05 |
Thanks soooo muuuch Pittrek, You are the best of the best. |
| pittrek 28.03.2008 03:54 |
Thanks for your nice words ! Here is another concert - Stark's remaster of Liverpool : link Enjoy |
| Bo Alex 28.03.2008 13:43 |
When will you post the second part: 1974? Can't wait...Hope for Rainbow 3-31-74!!! |
| pittrek 28.03.2008 13:55 |
Bo Alex wrote: When will you post the second part: 1974? Can't wait...Hope for Rainbow 3-31-74!!!To be honest it doesn't depend on me (I'm waiting for one source) but it will be within a week or two. And yes, Rainbow March show WILL be uploaded, as always the currently BEST AVAILABLE version - SirGH's compilation |
| flashalive 13.04.2008 06:21 |
This is really awesome thanks alot for your efforts.. the Golders Green is a neat upgrade to an already excellent recording. Cheers |
| Roger's Beard 25.04.2008 17:47 |
I've got an old cassette labelled London marquee 20-11-72 but the quality is poor. I'll try to remember to dig it out next time I go to my Mums and upload it. Maybe it's the real deal, maybe it's a fake, but I'm sure one of you guys will be able to tell. |
| pittrek 26.04.2008 06:35 |
pootle1 wrote: I've got an old cassette labelled London marquee 20-11-72 but the quality is poor. I'll try to remember to dig it out next time I go to my Mums and upload it. Maybe it's the real deal, maybe it's a fake, but I'm sure one of you guys will be able to tell.All versions I have seen are a fake, but still it's worth to check it |
| eYe 16.05.2008 12:01 |
Torrents: Golders Green (Pittrek's 3-source compilation) link Liverpool (Stark's remaster) link |
| pittrek 25.07.2008 04:01 |
eYe - I can't reply to your PM. Please PM me your e-mail address if you want something |
| pittrek 25.07.2008 04:06 |
Since all my posts with the links are obviously gone, I'm putting here at least the links if nothing else. 1973-09-13 Golders Green Hippodrome, London, UK link link link 1973-11-17 Liverpool, UK link link link These are unfortunately the only links I could find :( Does anybody remember if it was all or if I missed something ? |
| pittrek 25.07.2008 04:17 |
I have also found Birmingham 27. November link link |
| maggiko foka 04.01.2009 15:42 |
I just lost most of my collection and 1.5 years of downloading from QZ in a HD crash.[img=../../images/smiley/msn/cry_smile.gif][/img] I'm starting again from Pittrek's BoB but i found that part 3 of Golders Green is dead link Can anybody reupload it or seed the torrent by eYe link ? TXL Stefano (pity me !) |
| pittrek 05.01.2009 04:09 |
maggiko foka wrote: I just lost most of my collection and 1.5 years of downloading from QZ in a HD crash.[img=../../images/smiley/msn/cry_smile.gif][/img] I'm starting again from Pittrek's BoB but i found that part 3 of Golders Green is dead link Can anybody reupload it or seed the torrent by eYe link ? TXL Stefano (pity me !) Stefano - the link works perfectly, I've just downloaded the file. Can you try it again ? |
| merc07 05.01.2009 06:43 |
Is it possible for someone to check the second mediafire link. I'm having the same problems as maggiko foka, it just won't open, and having listened to the first two parts I'd really like it as it's supremely better than the copy I have already. Cheers |
| maggiko foka 13.01.2009 17:22 |
[img=/images/smiley/msn/angel_smile.gif][/img]yes it works !!!!!!!!!!! |
| kondek 02.07.2009 09:31 |
Well, sorry for bumping this thread, but is there any chance for someone to re-upload the first part of this gig? It's sadly no longer available... The other parts work fine. It would be much appreciated if someone could help me. Can't wait to hear the full 3-source compilation, cheers ;) Oh, and btw, if you dont have the original zip archive, the tracks I'm missing are: 1-5, 8 and 11. |
| pittrek 02.07.2009 11:27 |
Well rapidshare deletes the files 3 months after the last download. I created a new zip file containing all the files you wrote, let me know if it works link |
| kondek 02.07.2009 13:20 |
Ok mate, everything's working beautifully :) Thanks again for sharing, you've done an excellent job on this. Greetings from Poland ;) |
| btlg0001 21.08.2011 10:12 |
Thanks a lot man! You're are the master! |