| Stoner 15.12.2007 01:58 |
I just heard this song. It's a beautiful song and so sad. What exactly is the "path of nevermore" in this song? Just curious to hear other's ideas or viewpoint. Nevermore is the title of one of Edgar Allen Poe's essays. |
| saltnvinegar 16.12.2007 19:58 |
It is a gorgeous piece of music. So tragic and beautiful. As to the meaning, well it does seem to be a song about a break-up but there is one shift during the lyrics; - most of them are through the eyes of one person eg 'there's no living in *my* life' 'don't send me to the path of nevermore' etc but it also includes the line 'please don't YOU cry anymore' Perhaps it means that neither want to truly break up, but they have to. I guess the 'path to nevermore' means things will never be the same again. I suppose something autobiographical could have been in it, or perhaps Poe's essay was an influence. What's the content of it? |
| beautifulsoup 16.12.2007 20:13 |
Hmm. And "quothe the raven: Nevermore." Also Poe. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 16.12.2007 20:26 |
I've always thought of Nevermore as a companion piece to Lily of the Valley, which Brian says was Freddie's attempt to tell Mary Austin that he couldn't be with her physically anymore. Perhaps the lyrics reflect Freddie's homosexuality becoming more prevalent. And that's not being a smart ass BTW. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 16.12.2007 21:08 |
Interesting stuff.. |
| saltnvinegar 16.12.2007 21:29 |
Boy Thomas Raker wrote: I've always thought of Nevermore as a companion piece to Lily of the Valley, which Brian says was Freddie's attempt to tell Mary Austin that he couldn't be with her physically anymore. Perhaps the lyrics reflect Freddie's homosexuality becoming more prevalent. And that's not being a smart ass BTW.That seems a very plausible theory. I'm sure the complexity of his relationship with her must have carried over into his songwriting. The Sheer Heart Attack album may well contain a few confessional pieces from him. 'Lily of the Valley' and possibly 'In the Lap of the Gods' for Mary and perhaps 'In the Lap of the Gods-Revisited' for his parents and others who were warning him against the perils of pursuing a career in the rock world. |
| Carol! the Musical 16.12.2007 23:17 |
I never noticed the lyrics contradicted themselves so bad. XD |
| Stoner 18.12.2007 05:22 |
Boy Thomas Raker wrote: I've always thought of Nevermore as a companion piece to Lily of the Valley, which Brian says was Freddie's attempt to tell Mary Austin that he couldn't be with her physically anymore.I never thought of it! In Lily of the Valley, a line says >>>>messenger from seven seas has flown to tell the king of Rhye he's lost his throne<<< Now I wonder what this means? It's killing me I MUST KNOW NOW! My guess it is a metaphor for someone who has lost their place to someone else.....it could be a metaphor for Freddie being impotent and he can never have kids. It could be alot of things. But of course if Freddie was impotent, he would not want the whole world to know. He would try to keep it a secret. |
| Stoner 18.12.2007 05:25 |
beautifulsoup wrote: Hmm. And "quothe the raven: Nevermore." Also Poe.ohhhhh that's it. See, I was maybe five years old the last time I heard that poem. I always just thought it was called Nevermore. |
| saltnvinegar 18.12.2007 06:56 |
Stoner wrote: I never thought of it! In Lily of the Valley, a line says >>>>messenger from seven seas has flown to tell the king of Rhye he's lost his throne<<< Now I wonder what this means? It's killing me I MUST KNOW NOW! My guess it is a metaphor for someone who has lost their place to someone else.....it could be a metaphor for Freddie being impotent and he can never have kids. It could be alot of things. But of course if Freddie was impotent, he would not want the whole world to know. He would try to keep it a secret.Well, that's a theory I hadn't considered! As you said, I doubt he'd have told the whole world even in a metaphor! However, I think these lines; 'I lie in wait with open eyes I carry on through stormy skies I follow every course' could be interpreted as him just going through the motions although his heart wasn't in it. The beauty of these songs is kind of heartbreaking when you consider the inner turmoil he must have been going through. One thing I noticed, and it's not meant as a criticism but, his songwriting seemed to lose a little of its complex beauty once his personal issues were resolved. Perhaps the release allowed him to write with more fun and abandonment but it also meant that his songs lost some of their delicate imagery; eg Lily of the Valley--->Get Down Make Love---->Don't Stop Me Now---->Body Language |
| Stoner 18.12.2007 23:04 |
saltnvinegar wrote: [/QUOTENAMEOne thing I noticed, and it's not meant as a criticism but, his songwriting seemed to lose a little of its complex beauty once his personal issues were resolved. Perhaps the release allowed him to write with more fun and abandonment but it also meant that his songs lost some of their delicate imagery; eg Lily of the Valley--->Get Down Make Love---->Don't Stop Me Now---->Body LanguageYou are right there. I never thought about it but yes! It just goes to show you that things of beauty come from a tortured mind because.....the deeper the secrets, the more the person is forced to speak with subtle hints and "delicate imagery" as you call it. I don't know that's just a theory of mine. |
| Stoner 18.12.2007 23:10 |
And I have just wondered about this, it's just a thought so don't everyone go jumping all over me because I expressed it! I wonder if Mary really left him because he was 'gay'? Maybe that was just a cover up on her part and Freddie never really admitted that to her? Once again this is just a thought so everyone just keeep caaaaaaalm.......... Maybe she wanted kids and Freddie couldn't have kids. Not because he was 'gay' but because he was impotent? You can have a successful sexual relationship and still be impotent. I've thought of a few other things but I won't expound until I've sufficiently tested the waters here. HEHE :D |
| saltnvinegar 19.12.2007 03:17 |
Stoner wrote: And I have just wondered about this, it's just a thought so don't everyone go jumping all over me because I expressed it! I wonder if Mary really left him because he was 'gay'? Maybe that was just a cover up on her part and Freddie never really admitted that to her? Once again this is just a thought so everyone just keeep caaaaaaalm.......... Maybe she wanted kids and Freddie couldn't have kids. Not because he was 'gay' but because he was impotent? You can have a successful sexual relationship and still be impotent. I've thought of a few other things but I won't expound until I've sufficiently tested the waters here. HEHE :DYes, I think people may react badly to your theory. I'm not going to freak out cos you're entitled to share your ideas-that's why it's a forum, right?! However, I'm going to have to disagree with you-for one thing, they were together for about 7 years-I kind of doubt they just held hands and went for romantic walks the entire time-I wouldn't have if I'd been Mary ;) I think a lot of guys don't want to become fathers when they're younger especially when they're trying to make it as a rock star. It was just the wrong time and place, kind of a shame cos a Freddie Jr may have inherited some of his father's talent-or then again, he may have been tone deaf with no musical skills at all! |
| Poo, again 19.12.2007 07:28 |
I think it's about AIDS. |
| Stoner 23.12.2007 13:41 |
It is not about AIDS. God I hate the word AIDS. It sounds so gross. |
| Stoner 24.12.2007 06:40 |
sorry about that |
| Ms. Rebel 24.12.2007 07:15 |
The Black Cat was such a wonderful book |