QueenZone discussion #1021233

Sebastian wrote: Does the book say anything about Paul Rodgers?

Raststätte-Knödel wrote: I orderded the damn book half a year ago, but I still don't have it!!

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Sebastian wrote: Does the book say anything about Paul Rodgers?

Not that I know, but it does say that Freddie wrote all the solo's of his songs. ;)

<font color=0>Metal Maiden<h6>Oh Yeah... wrote: Isn't Jim Hutton liek 60? Doesn't he know proper grammar by this age? Mercury and I?

Sebastian wrote: > Not that I know, but it does say that Freddie wrote all the solo's of his songs. ;) By "his" do you mean Freddie's, or Paul's?

<font color=0>Metal Maiden<h6>Oh Yeah... wrote: Oh, Sarajane, by the way, add me on myspace!!! link

Sebastian wrote: > Not that I know, but it does say that Freddie wrote all the solo's of his songs. ;) By "his" do you mean Freddie's, or Paul's? > Isn't Jim Hutton liek 60? Doesn't he know proper grammar by this age? Mercury and I? The concept of "proper" grammar is always controversial. What about Lennon's "she don't care" in 'Ticket To Ride' or Mercury's "you and me" in 'Bijou'? Prescriptively they might be "wrong", descriptively they're just variants. Shakespeare used both "between you and me" and "between you and I". > No, nothing about PR he wrote the book in 1994. Paul was already 44 at the time ... plus since he was "Freddie's favourite singer" it's odd that Jim never mentioned Mercury having expressed his admiration for Mr Rodgers. Unless of course Roger and Brian are merely putting words on a dead man's mouth ... but they wouldn't do that - they're perfect! > Its British grammer. Not quite...

deliah wrote: best book i ever read on freddie mercury,legend has it that queen members didnt really speak to him again after that book cause it exposed some secrets,duno if thats true,book itself has some really good personal photographs,i found it was more in detail than peter freestones book about him(equally good book all the same)

Dusta wrote: Just finished this a week or so ago. My first thought, after the first few chapters, was, Crikes, what an ego! I did come to enjoy the book, however, and, realized that there was much more to Jim Hutton and his relationship with Mr Mercury. I do sort of get the same feeling whomever posted, "Garden Lodge and Me," was expressing, however, I also feel that Mr Hutton may not be the best...communicator. I also determined(from the book, of course. I don't know Mr Hutton) that Mr Hutton is a very simple man, and, can see where Freddie may have found that attractive. The good part about the book was that the contrast between Freddie's public persona, and, his private persona, was tremendous, which made it interesting, to me. Now, I await Phoebe's book, on it's way from the UK! It took a good eight weeks for Hutton's to reach me, so, I expect Phoebe's will take about the same amount of time.

<font color=0099FF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote:

Dusta wrote: Just finished this a week or so ago. My first thought, after the first few chapters, was, Crikes, what an ego! I did come to enjoy the book, however, and, realized that there was much more to Jim Hutton and his relationship with Mr Mercury. I do sort of get the same feeling whomever posted, "Garden Lodge and Me," was expressing, however, I also feel that Mr Hutton may not be the best...communicator. I also determined(from the book, of course. I don't know Mr Hutton) that Mr Hutton is a very simple man, and, can see where Freddie may have found that attractive. The good part about the book was that the contrast between Freddie's public persona, and, his private persona, was tremendous, which made it interesting, to me. Now, I await Phoebe's book, on it's way from the UK! It took a good eight weeks for Hutton's to reach me, so, I expect Phoebe's will take about the same amount of time.

I didn't know Phoebe had written a book as well. You'll have to keep me updated on it. What is it called?

<font color=0099FF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: "Freddie Mercury was an Honest man, I felt he deserved an honest book." - Jim Hutton.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<font color=0099FF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: "Freddie Mercury was an Honest man, I felt he deserved an honest book." - Jim Hutton.

Freddie Mercury was a private man, and so none of these books would have come out had he lived. Very little was known about Freddie's private life until he died, until his friends backstabbed him when they saw dollar signs in their eyes.

Mercury Lover wrote: English, English. colour, favourite. Whatever you want to call it. I had no idea you were a grammer professor.

Mercury Lover wrote: I've never heard that PR was 'Freddie's Favorite singer', Aretha Franklin was to my knowledge, and that Was mentioned in the book.

*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote:

<font color=0099FF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote:

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Sebastian wrote: Does the book say anything about Paul Rodgers?

Not that I know, but it does say that Freddie wrote all the solo's of his songs. ;)

No, nothing about PR he wrote the book in 1994.

Yes but why is it now we are hearing how PR was an influence to Freddie, so on that note, this particular question is still valid.

Dusta wrote: I admit I could have done without reading about the sex, and, his last few days. I don't want to know that stuff about Freddie. I think the book could have been honest, without going into some of that detail. Still, I enjoyed hearing about the pleasure he took in collecting, and, in his kitties, and of his friendships. I also gained a new respect for Freddie, seeing how truly vast the distance between his Queen persona, and, his personality were. Also inspiring was that, up until the very end, as sick as he was, and, as doomed as he was, he still sought, and, found, joy in life.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<font color=0099FF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: "Freddie Mercury was an Honest man, I felt he deserved an honest book." - Jim Hutton.

Freddie Mercury was a private man, and so none of these books would have come out had he lived. Very little was known about Freddie's private life until he died, until his friends backstabbed him when they saw dollar signs in their eyes.

*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: Alltough i do agree with what you mentioned here, but who's to say that this wasnt brough up in question when freddie was alive? I mean, they did live with him, and perhaps the question was raised.... He lived a private life to avoide the problems his life style brought about... But maybe he said when im gone, say what you want.... Its just a thought.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: Alltough i do agree with what you mentioned here, but who's to say that this wasnt brough up in question when freddie was alive? I mean, they did live with him, and perhaps the question was raised.... He lived a private life to avoide the problems his life style brought about... But maybe he said when im gone, say what you want.... Its just a thought.

Indeed, it's a possibility, but realistically, could you picture Freddie ever saying, "After I die, could you both tell the world about my private life, dears?" I'm sure Peter and Jim thought about this, but they knew there weren't going to be too many people who'd view these books critically, because the majority of their readers would be blinded by the fact that the books brought new stories about Freddie. Not only that, but Jim's book was written with an anti-Mary bias, because she got the house, and he got next to nothing from the will. He had a personal agenda to fulfill.

<font color=0099FF>Mercury Lover<h6>HA! wrote: I finally bought and received a used copy of Jim Hutton's book 'Mercury and Me'. Now that I've finished reading it I would like to know who else has read it and what did you think?

Janet wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: Alltough i do agree with what you mentioned here, but who's to say that this wasnt brough up in question when freddie was alive? I mean, they did live with him, and perhaps the question was raised.... He lived a private life to avoide the problems his life style brought about... But maybe he said when im gone, say what you want.... Its just a thought.

Indeed, it's a possibility, but realistically, could you picture Freddie ever saying, "After I die, could you both tell the world about my private life, dears?" I'm sure Peter and Jim thought about this, but they knew there weren't going to be too many people who'd view these books critically, because the majority of their readers would be blinded by the fact that the books brought new stories about Freddie. Not only that, but Jim's book was written with an anti-Mary bias, because she got the house, and he got next to nothing from the will. He had a personal agenda to fulfill.

I agree wholeheartedly. Thats why I said above that the book should be titled "Garden Lodge and Me". It was so obvious that Jim wanted that house so badly he could taste it, and even though he received a chunk of cash and home in Ireland from Freddie, he acted like Mary turned him out with nothing and nowhere to go. People can say what they want about Mary, but she is the only one who hasn't churned out a book or shared secrets about her life with Freddie, and I imagine she could tell some stories! ;-)

pow wow wrote:

Janet wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

*(azzadude)* ..GET DOWN MAKE LOVE! wrote: Alltough i do agree with what you mentioned here, but who's to say that this wasnt brough up in question when freddie was alive? I mean, they did live with him, and perhaps the question was raised.... He lived a private life to avoide the problems his life style brought about... But maybe he said when im gone, say what you want.... Its just a thought.

Indeed, it's a possibility, but realistically, could you picture Freddie ever saying, "After I die, could you both tell the world about my private life, dears?" I'm sure Peter and Jim thought about this, but they knew there weren't going to be too many people who'd view these books critically, because the majority of their readers would be blinded by the fact that the books brought new stories about Freddie. Not only that, but Jim's book was written with an anti-Mary bias, because she got the house, and he got next to nothing from the will. He had a personal agenda to fulfill.

I agree wholeheartedly. Thats why I said above that the book should be titled "Garden Lodge and Me". It was so obvious that Jim wanted that house so badly he could taste it, and even though he received a chunk of cash and home in Ireland from Freddie, he acted like Mary turned him out with nothing and nowhere to go. People can say what they want about Mary, but she is the only one who hasn't churned out a book or shared secrets about her life with Freddie, and I imagine she could tell some stories! ;-)

With Mary's assets totalling over £30,000,000 she doesnt have to to a tell all. It costs approximately £15,000 a year to keep sufferers like Jim alive! Do you think with his age and condition he would get a job to pay for this? I thought it made a poignant and heartbreaking read. Better than the usual censored and rose-tinted authorized versions. And how come we all bought it if we didnt agree with it?

pow wow wrote: With Mary's assets totalling over £30,000,000 she doesnt have to to a tell all.