| dobo 24.03.2007 13:31 |
What I think they should do is something like A boxset for each 2 years so it would be like this: Boxset no.1 1973-74 QUEEN CD Remasterd and with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary QUEEN II CD Remasterd and with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Sheer Heart Attack CD emasterd and with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Queen Live At The Golders Green Hippodrom London 1973 CD Queen Live At The Rainbow (One night complete or both nights complete) DVD and CD Boxset no.2 1975-76 A Night At The Opera CD & DVD 30th Anniversary Edition A Day At The Races CD with an ccompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Queen Live At Hammersmith 25/12/75 DVD and CD Queen Live At Hyde Park 1976 DVD and CD Boxset no.3 1977-78 New Of The World CD with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Jazz with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Queen Live At Earls Court 1977 DVD and CD Queen Live In Houston 1977 DVD and CD Boxset no.4 1979-80 Live Killers 2CD with edits removed or made less obvious The Game CD with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Flash Gordon CD with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Queen Live In Paris 1979 3 DVD set Queen Live At Hammersmith 26/12/1979 DVD and CD Flash Gordon Movie DVD Boxset no.5 1981-1982 Greatest Hits 1 & Greatest Video Hits 1 CD & DVD set Hot Space with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Queen Live In Sao Paulo 1981 DVD and CD Queen Live In Buenos Aires 1981 DVD and CD Queen We Will Rock You (Both Nights Complete) CD and DVD Boxset no.6 1984-85 The Works with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Queen Live at Rock In Rio 1985 (Both nights complete) DVD and CD Queen Live in Japan 1985 (complete) DVD and CD Boxset no.6 1986 A Kind of Magic CD with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Live Magic CD with edits removed or made less obvious Queen Live in Budapest 1986 (Complete) DVD and CD Queen The Magic Years DVD Boxset no7. 1989-91 The Miracle with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Innuendo with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary The Complete BBC Sessions Greatest Hits II & Greatest Video Hits 2 CD & DVD set Boxset no.8 1992 The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert 1992 CD & DVD (Entire Show) 10 years on from the tribute concert documentry DVD Boxset no.9 1995-99 Made in Heaven CD Made In Heaven The Films DVD Queen Rocks CD with an accompanying DVD of official promo videos and videos for the other tracks like the 30th ANATO edition and brand new commentary Greatest Hits 3 CD & Greatest Video Hits 3 DVD Boxset no.10 2000-2002 Queen Live at Party at the Palace CD & DVD Queen + Cast of We Will Rock You Live on Parkinson DVD Queen's Day Ammsterdam 2002 DVD We Will Rock You The Musical DVD Boxset no.11 20 |
| Deacon Fan 24.03.2007 14:37 |
That sounds good to me. Just one caveat: I think they should be exclusive to vinyl + VHS sets for a period of 5 years first. |
| Cygnus X-1 24.03.2007 15:23 |
That's exactly the way it should be done! ( except the Higlander Movie ;-) But how big are the chances this will ever happen? QP should employ you... |
| thomasquinn 32989 24.03.2007 15:51 |
Keep dreaming. And if QP would hire someone like that, they'd be bankrupt in a year. This wouldn't even APPROACH the costs in revenue. |
| Daniel Nester 24.03.2007 16:04 |
Not if they're just digital files, TQ; which is how the recording industry is going, you may have heard. |
| thomasquinn 32989 24.03.2007 17:33 |
Only if you believe what you read in the tabloids. The demand for recorded media has never been so high, record companies are grossing more than ever, and production of records is growing ever cheaper. They know damn well that when they go digital, the illegal downloads will put them out of business in no-time. Besides, it'd render recording-contracts practically useless; doing it by oneself could be much more beneficial in such a scenario. |
| masterstroke_84 24.03.2007 18:20 |
13 box sets???????? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH!! very funny... P. |
| vadenuez 24.03.2007 19:28 |
Right now, there's a QP chairman lying flat on the floor because of a stroke after reading this thread ;-) |
| Mustapha_Ibrahim 24.03.2007 20:07 |
Nice try, but I dont think this is a good idea at all. First of all, you don't include any discs of outtakes and rarities, IMO the real point of this boxsets thing in the first place. Then, you include all the original albums, which is fine, but if they are considering this, they MUST give us High Definition music, and by this I mean DVD-A or SACD. Once Queen has already chosen to go with DVD-A, they should stick with it and release all their back catalogue in this format. You also want a DVD with each album with interviews, a documentary etc. Great point. They should include in each DVD bits of the videos of the concerts for the respective album, interviews at the time, the promo videos and the documentary. Look for example at Genesis and their brand new box-sets. 3 boxsets with every album in SACD and a DVD with footage from that era. And each boxset has a disc with rarities and a DVD with extras. |
| deleted user 24.03.2007 20:46 |
this is extremely lacking in the Sheer Heart Attack album |
| redspecial85 24.03.2007 22:41 |
I think that's an awesome idea for the boxsets! That plus the rarites and outtakes...would make the boxsets priceless!! |
| -fatty- 2850 24.03.2007 23:32 |
A box set so large that you need planning permission to own. fatty. |
| Saint Jiub 25.03.2007 00:47 |
Box set? Box Sets?? Queen Productions is so in touch with the their loyal customers, that they will release GH4 before even considering releasing the box sets or anything from the archives. The 2009 date for the box sets is a lie by Queen Productions. I can tell QP and Greg Brooks were lying because their lips were moving. |
| Nationofhaircuts 25.03.2007 04:37 |
Well.. well... nice list. but eh where are all those old demotapes hidden in these boxes?? All official stuff on re-run? waste of money I think, people who buy this already have it on cd/vinyl. |
| dobo 25.03.2007 07:20 |
I meant to include a bonus cd with each album as well as the DVD which would contain alternate versions and demos and the like. |
| john bodega 25.03.2007 11:56 |
Even the Who managed to get some rarities out 'before I got old'. Come on Queen... I'd like it if they were released before I'm dead, how is that?? |
| The Real Wizard 25.03.2007 12:00 |
Holy crap... *dies of a heart attack* |
| August R. 25.03.2007 12:09 |
Nationofhaircuts wrote: Well.. well... nice list. but eh where are all those old demotapes hidden in these boxes?? All official stuff on re-run? waste of money I think, people who buy this already have it on cd/vinyl.Exactly! I'd like to hear some rarities, alt-takes, demos and such. Does anybody really want to see some new videos of old tracks? I think it' was a dull idea. I want something I haven't heard a thousand times before. |
| Daniel Nester 25.03.2007 16:02 |
Tquinn -- Are you on angel dust? Sales of CD's have gone down 40% in the last year alone. The CD is dead. This whole notion of boxed sets is something for the over 35 set who can't use P2P. Hell, Queenonline is selling mp3's even. What they should do -- and what I think they will do, someday -- is set up their own site to sell digital files. If we want artwork, we can buy that, too. But this notion that the record companies are making money from new releases is bunk. All they have are their back catalogs, which are getting more and more worthless by the year, as digital takes over. |
| BRYCE THE TROLL 25.03.2007 18:03 |
can we have one...mabye, two box sets?!?! three at the most... but i have a hard time thinking thirteen is nessasary or cost effective for the salesman or the customer |
| thomasquinn 32989 25.03.2007 18:29 |
Daniel Nester wrote: Tquinn -- Are you on angel dust? Sales of CD's have gone down 40% in the last year alone. The CD is dead. This whole notion of boxed sets is something for the over 35 set who can't use P2P. Hell, Queenonline is selling mp3's even. What they should do -- and what I think they will do, someday -- is set up their own site to sell digital files. If we want artwork, we can buy that, too. But this notion that the record companies are making money from new releases is bunk. All they have are their back catalogs, which are getting more and more worthless by the year, as digital takes over.You are the person who is quite frankly insane. You are citing me numbers without presenting me with a source so I can comment on them, and are thus rendering your statement null-and-void. |
| Daniel Nester 25.03.2007 19:50 |
Here we go Thomas -- and remember, reading helps you, it might make even you rise above the intelligence level of an ape. You asserted music sales were--and this is a gem of a quote--"The demand for recorded media has never been so high, record companies are grossing more than ever, and production of records is growing ever cheaper." The latter point may be true, but the first two is simply a folly. Accounts of CD sales drops range from 8% to 40%, but the bottom line is that the CD is dead, and the record labels still haven't admitted to this reality. My point is this: boxed sets are going to be a thing of the past, and they will be replaced by digital files, which we can custom-make into boxed sets. My sources? Here's some. Keep in mind your points were completely unsupported, and, what's more, completely wrong. link link link link link Seriously, ThomasQuinn, this is too easy. Don't try to talk about things you don't know about. Which seems to be everything by your ass. |
| Daniel Nester 26.03.2007 08:59 |
OK, ThomasQuinn -- here's another source for my contention that the CD is dead. Front page of The New York Times business section -- I trust you don't regard this source as a "tabloid" source, as you say before (and since when does a tabloid report on such finer points of business as the declining sales of CD sales? anyway): link Choice/relevant quotes: "Last year, digital singles outsold plastic CD’s for the first time. So far this year, sales of digital songs have risen 54 percent, to roughly 189 million units, according to data from Nielsen SoundScan. Digital album sales are rising at a slightly faster pace, but buyers of digital music are purchasing singles over albums by a margin of 19 to 1." ... At the same time, the industry is straining to shore up the album as long as possible, in part by prodding listeners who buy one song to purchase the rest of a collection. Apple, in consultation with several labels, has been planning to offer iTunes users credit for songs they have already purchased if they then choose to buy the associated album in a certain period of time, according to people involved in the negotiations. (Under Apple’s current practice, customers who buy a song and then the related album effectively pay for the song twice). But some analysts say they doubt that such promotions can reverse the trend. “I think the album is going to die,” said Aram Sinnreich, managing partner at Radar Research, a media consulting firm based in Los Angeles. “Consumers are listening to play lists,” or mixes of single songs from an assortment of different artists. “Consumers who have had iPods since they were in the single digits are going to increasingly gravitate toward artists who embrace that.”" +++++++ So, back to my original point, and hopefully Mr. TQ can just be quiet, if not admit he's wrong. +++++++ When Queen offers boxed sets, with them taking so long to do it for whatever reason, the way it will look probably won't be what we have learned to be a traditional box of CDs for 200 bucks scenario. Instead, it will be a sort of buffet, where you pick and choose which tracks you want for your own, customized boxed set. So the original poster here, with the supergenerous pickings, may actually have that dream come true: it will be more viable economically to offer the whole kit and caboodle online. I would also suggest that the prospect of whay I am describing above is why Queen Productions has been so restrained in selling their catalog online. They might be possibly be looking to a future in which they will sell their back catalog themselves online. They're doing it already with bootlegs. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 26.03.2007 10:25 |
Excellent post Daniel. As a music consumer in my mid 40s, I can't recall the last time I was in a music shop. I miss going in and checking the racks for new releases or things that I may have missed in previous visits. I also enjoyed reading liner notes and viewing the artwork on the old LP covers. But those days are gone and good riddance too. Digital is the future, and I can't see anyone but the die hards buying the definitive Queen box set in a hard copy format. However, if the tracks were online and people could pick and choose what they want (and download artwork and liner notes if they chose to) I'd think digital sales would far exceed sales from a traditional retailer. I've downloaded about 150 songs off of iTunes since I got it last year. That's 13 albums worth of music. I've bought nothing from a record shop. I'd imagine for people who have grown up with digital downloading those numbers are dwarfed. Anyway, I'm with Zebonka, as long as the rarities are released in my life I'll be happy. |
| Daniel Nester 26.03.2007 10:58 |
I agree, BTB, with a lot of what you're saying. I miss record stores -- I miss browsing, flipping, talking to the usually surly record store employees, who almost every time would make fun of me for buying yet another Queen-related release. But those times are gone. It stinks, because there was a community of like-minded people there at the local record shop; it's a feeling that can't ever be replaced. That's what I suppose places like QZ is all about, but it feels different to me. It's great to go here and know there other people similarly afflicted with this Queen addiction, but it's too anonymous and strange most of the time. And mean-spirited. It's a different kind of person who went to the record shop and hung out there for hours and the kind who goes on notice boards. There's overlap, but it's not the same crowd. Anyway, Queen should put good, remastered rarities on their website right now. And that way, we can pick and choose. I mean, I am a Freddie Mercury maniac, but I am sure there are Queeniacs out there who could have done without maybe a couple of the 10-odd versions of "Living on My Own." |
| Maz 26.03.2007 11:21 |
Before you blame digital music for the death of the Record Shop, don't forget about the Big Box retailers like WalMart and Best Buy. I remember 12+ years ago when my favorite record shop closed down because they couldn't compete with Best Buy down the road. I wonder how much of the push to digital is the record companies way of controlling profits more and taking the initiative away from retailers. There was a lawsuit, as you may remember, from 4 or 5 years ago in which the Record Conglomerates sued WalMart for selling their CDs below cost. |
| PieterMC 26.03.2007 12:23 |
I hate the fact the music is moving more and more towards digital downloads. |
| Daniel Nester 27.03.2007 09:27 |
I kind of agree. I don't feel so wedded to CDs--the sound is so inferior to vinyl, which I still have and love. Like other, I always had a complicated relationship with CDs--you can play them in your car, they sound better than cassettes, but the art sucks and the remasters are often awful. At least with digital downloads, we have the freedom of where to play them (computer, car, iPod), and at least theoretically they won't deteriorate. You could also burn them on a CD. Maybe someday we can burn our own vinyl--the best of both worlds! |
| PieterMC 27.03.2007 09:39 |
I can't take my digital downloads to a used music store once I am tired of listening to them though. |