simps 19.12.2006 16:38 |
Hy all,does anyone have Freddie's interveiw were he told the world he had AIDs. |
L-R-TIGER1994 19.12.2006 16:52 |
"Following the enormous conjecture in the press over the last two weeks, I wish to confirm that I have been tested HIV positive and have AIDS. I felt it correct to keep this information private to date to protect the privacy of those around me. However, the time has come now for my friends and fans around the world to know the truth and I hope that everyone will join with my doctors and all those worldwide in the fight against this terrible disease. My privacy has always been very special to me and I am famous for my lack of interviews. Please understand this policy will continue." |
L-R-TIGER1994 19.12.2006 16:53 |
Obviously this was prepared long before. |
simps 19.12.2006 19:45 |
Video?Thank you for posting whst he said. |
Serry... 20.12.2006 00:40 |
It calls "statement", it's not interview - no audio, no video. Calm down. |
john bodega 20.12.2006 04:19 |
Interview??!? Hahaha link |
rosedewitt 20.12.2006 15:07 |
there was no video or interview, just the statement which by L-R-Tiger 1994. freddie was lying in bed with morphium the last days with a broken leg (according to jim hutton) and i don't think he was in the mood to tell the world that he was going to die in a few hours. |
Mean Mr. Ketchup 20.12.2006 15:27 |
he had a broken leg?! |
Deacon Fan 20.12.2006 15:49 |
Just a case of misunderstanding I'm sure. Think of it as more of a press release.. something in writing prepared in advance to be released to the press (who had been hounding him). Others have stated that it was probably more of manager Jim Beach's idea and Freddie may have even been pressured into approving it.. who knows, but it seems rational enough to me and I do think it was a good idea to get the truth out there, as it opened the door for the band and others to talk about it and do things such as raise money for AIDS charities without feeling they needed to keep some non-secret. It was painful to read that, being a U.S. fan and not having seen all the tabloid trash there.. I had no clue he was sick. And then he was gone later that same day.. because we got the statement a bit late here. |
Rick 21.12.2006 03:47 |
pee pee |
rosedewitt 21.12.2006 04:47 |
~Pred. wrote: he had a broken leg?!jim hutton and joe fanelli (or phoebe) carried freddie to the toilet because he was too weak to go for it on his own, but one of the last days jim carried him on his own and freddie broke a bone, - you can read it in jim huttons book. |
nvrmore 22.12.2006 11:48 |
..and you believe that shit? That book is much as accurate as Greg's. |
rosedewitt 23.12.2006 03:32 |
nvrmore wrote: ..and you believe that shit? That book is much as accurate as Greg's.when you don't believe jim huttons and peter freestones book, you can't believe anything, because the they are the only persons who lived so colsed to freddie and wrote a book about it. i am sure they both know better about everything then you and me. but you're right, i also don't care if the books tell the truth, i just read them and found them informative, and some things i guess they are true and some not. |
Serry... 23.12.2006 04:46 |
rosedewitt wrote: they are the only persons who lived so colsed to freddieWho told you that? Peter and Jim? So that's the answer... |
Back2TheLight 23.12.2006 05:16 |
Actually I believe it was a broken rib and Freddie screamed, and apparently went into a convulsion...I don't see why they would have any reason to lie about these things...what would be the point?? |
rosedewitt 23.12.2006 11:27 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote:well, do YOU know it better? when you think they are idiots and lie, don't read their books. and i agree with bambams-paradise, - when they write biographies about freddie anyway, why should they lie and make up stories?rosedewitt wrote: they are the only persons who lived so colsed to freddieWho told you that? Peter and Jim? So that's the answer... |
Serry... 23.12.2006 13:21 |
rosedewitt wrote: why should they lie and make up stories?Because they want to be *bigger* than they are. It's very simple."Me and Freddie", "I told Freddie", "Freddie asked me to write Bohemian Rhapsody", "I taught Freddie how to play on piano" etc. etc. etc. "when you think they are idiots and lie, don't read their books" How would you suspect someone to know if the book is full of lie, but not to read that book? Magic? |
rosedewitt 23.12.2006 13:40 |
ok, but nobody cares if you like their books or not and if you believe they tell the truth or not, - they keep writing books and the fans keep on reading them. so it doesn't matter if they tell lies or not. |
Serry... 23.12.2006 13:54 |
rosedewitt wrote: it doesn't matter if they tell lies or not.Ouch... No more questions. |
Dane 23.12.2006 17:50 |
I agree with rosedewitt, does it matter if it is the truth or a lie. I consider freddie to be a very intelligent guy, with a good view of trustworthyness of people. Saying Jim or Phoebe are liars, in my opinion, insults Freddies intelligenge. Anyway, as Fred was so keen on his privacy, who gives a poop about truths. Some things never have to be told. |
john bodega 24.12.2006 00:58 |
"does it matter if it is the truth or a lie." SO GO READ HARRY POTTER! |
Back2TheLight 24.12.2006 05:46 |
You know what?? I think the most of us are pretty damn intelligent (and I don't speak for some...), and I think when we read the books that we do, we can discern the bullshit from the truth...it's not difficult. |
Serry... 24.12.2006 06:40 |
bambams-paradise wrote: You know what?? I think the most of us are pretty damn intelligent (and I don't speak for some...), and I think when we read the books that we do, we can discern the bullshit from the truth...it's not difficult.How would you know since you are pretty damn intelligent that last Freddie words were "pee pee"? Just tell us - what are the criterions to say for sure that it's true story? Do you have videotape? Or audiotape? Maybe it was "Peter, fuck off!"... |
thomasquinn 32989 24.12.2006 09:13 |
bambams-paradise wrote: You know what?? I think the most of us are pretty damn intelligentI think you are seriously overestimating the bulk of humanity, let alone QueenZone. |
Back2TheLight 24.12.2006 14:43 |
Maybe I'am over-estimating, and believe me I read the same threads as you guys do, and I laugh at the same stupid bullshit that you guys do...however...do I really give a fuck if Freddie's last words were pee pee?? Or telling Peter to fuck off?? Not really...it's all trivial. It's true...none of us were there, so we will never know...but the question is that does it really matter?? |
Serry... 25.12.2006 00:27 |
bambams-paradise wrote: Maybe I'am over-estimating, and believe me I read the same threads as you guys do, and I laugh at the same stupid bullshit that you guys do...however...do I really give a fuck if Freddie's last words were pee pee?? Or telling Peter to fuck off?? Not really...it's all trivial. It's true...none of us were there, so we will never know...but the question is that does it really matter??If you wanna say "Serry, fuck off!" just say so instead of those "pretty damn intelligent" lines like - "I read the same threads as you guys do, and I laugh at the same stupid bullshit that you guys do...". It's too much intelligent for Serry. However... If it doesn't matter for you - why you've bought the book (which is full of such facts), read it and discuss about it now? Nothing matters, calm down and relax. |
john bodega 26.12.2006 10:56 |
bambams-paradise wrote: do I really give a fuck if Freddie's last words were pee pee?? Or telling Peter to fuck off?? Not really...it's all trivial. It's true...none of us were there ?Well *I* was there. |
Back2TheLight 27.12.2006 17:21 |
Serry, I wouldn't tell you to fuck off...I respect you too much to do so, plus I'm just not that kind of person. We just have varying opinions, and that is ok....just human nature, you know?? No, I don't believe everything I read, and I firmly believe that there are three sides to every story...yours, mine (or in this case Peter and Jim), and the truth. And Zebonka, if you were there, please enlighten us on what REALLY happened!! LMAO!! Anyways, no I don't have the book, never had any inspirations of owning it, but I have read it before enough times...and yeah I'm sure some of it's BS (and I'm referring to Jim's and Peter's), but that's how it goes. You have to take everything with a grain of salt!! |
rosedewitt 30.12.2006 06:24 |
lol... i think the "most intelligent posts" on this topic were from Serry Vietinhoff...^^ you should better stop posting such silly answers if you don't want to make a fool of yourself. but do whatever you like, it's just a well-intentioned advice. |
Back2TheLight 02.01.2007 04:39 |
For the record, I have no problem making a fool of myself, and after all this is a discussion thread in which we can conversate and discuss, and I agree that Mr. Serry has alot of intelligent things and facts to contribute, and I'm not rivaling him in any way shape or form...he's stating his point of view, as I'am mine, as is everyone else, and we are all entitled, even if we make look 'foolish' from time to time. But the truth is that nobody here will ever know what exactly happened, because none of us were there...that is just plain FACT. We can only speculate. Well, except for Zebonka...he WAS there lol!! But that's beside the point!! |
rosedewitt 02.01.2007 05:24 |
i totally agree with you bambams-paradise. everybody should tell his opinion. that would even the best on a board, just to tell the personal opinion and don't comment the other's opinions, - an opinion is an opinion, how can you discuss seriously about it? but on this topic it seemed to me that especially Serry Vietinhoff tried to make everyone an idiot who is believing that freestone and hutton tell the truth in their books, - well so much queen fans on the world then must be idiots, - maybe even the people who knew freddie, - except of Serry Vietinhoff, who seems to know the real hidden truth. But seriously now, why does he care what the others believe? And, just because he shares pieces of queen music, what's a nice thing from him, of course he can't tell everything what he wants and offend others and everyone says "yes and amen holy music spender serry, you're always right", and when you don't agree you have the whole board against you - that's absurd. you understand, in his answers he behaved not very i don't know maybe adult is not the right word, however, i hope you understand me. |
Serry... 02.01.2007 06:15 |
rosedewitt wrote: i totally agree with you bambams-paradise. everybody should tell his opinion. that would even the best on a board, just to tell the personal opinion and don't comment the other's opinions, - an opinion is an opinion, how can you discuss seriously about it? but on this topic it seemed to me that especially Serry Vietinhoff tried to make everyone an idiot who is believing that freestone and hutton tell the truth in their books, - well so much queen fans on the world then must be idiots, - maybe even the people who knew freddie, - except of Serry Vietinhoff, who seems to know the real hidden truth. But seriously now, why does he care what the others believe? And, just because he shares pieces of queen music, what's a nice thing from him, of course he can't tell everything what he wants and offend others and everyone says "yes and amen holy music spender serry, you're always right", and when you don't agree you have the whole board against you - that's absurd. you understand, in his answers he behaved not very i don't know maybe adult is not the right word, however, i hope you understand me.Your doctor is on holidays? |
Serry... 02.01.2007 06:19 |
bambams-paradise wrote: But the truth is that nobody here will ever know what exactly happened, because none of us were there...that is just plain FACT. We can only speculate.That was my point actually... We weren't there, Freestone made some mistakes in his book, therefore he could be wrong in some other facts - he's a human. |
rosedewitt 02.01.2007 07:27 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote: Your doctor is on holidays?very very adult.. Serry Vietinhoff wrote:yes, he could be wrong, but he could also be right, but you don't know it, - so why we discuss about it at all?! let people have their own opinion and own belief, and then it's ok.bambams-paradise wrote: But the truth is that nobody here will ever know what exactly happened, because none of us were there...that is just plain FACT. We can only speculate.That was my point actually... We weren't there, Freestone made some mistakes in his book, therefore he could be wrong in some other facts - he's a human. |
thomasquinn 32989 02.01.2007 08:56 |
rosedewitt wrote:He´s right though. You aren´t making any sense, nor are you sounding even remotely psychologically healthy.Serry Vietinhoff wrote: Your doctor is on holidays?very very adult.. |
Serry... 02.01.2007 09:23 |
rosedewitt wrote: very very adult..So he (doctor) is... They as adult as "my" words like "yes and amen holy music spender serry, you're always right"... yes, he could be wrong, but he could also be right, but you don't know it, - so why we discuss about it at all?! let people have their own opinion and own belief, and then it's ok.Hmm... Again - so it was my point actually and it was me who said that we could doubt (i.e. having different "opinion" to Freestone's) and you've started to discuss with me... Maybe you just forgot, I don't know... But let me explain you one thing - 'opinion' is very common word in your vocabulary and you use it any time when you need it, but you CAN'T have opinion about "2+2=4" or "Berlin is the capital of Germany" - that something what we call as a FACT. No matter what do you or I think about it - 2+2 still =4. Freddie's last words are FACT, not someone's OPINION. We all know just the unproven fact from the man who was wrong with some other details. It has nothing to do with opinions, making idiots of QZers etc. You believe to Freestone - okay, I haven't said that I don't believe him - I just wrote that our belief to his words is blind. |
Bobby_brown 02.01.2007 10:37 |
I have the Books written by those chaps and i remember reading about the "broken leg". It might be lost in translation but he (i don´t remember wich one -Freestone or Huton) was refering to the sound of what he has heard- like a bone was broked- but i don´t think it was accurate to say it was really broken!! I mean, Freddie was in the last stage of his desease, and he have to deal with a broken bone in his body(?), and somwhere in the middle he almost asfixiated with a piece if fruit when he was eating his fruit salad?- Not to mention the fatal pneumonia he´s got? I mean, not even an healthy person would survive that!!! I know that for his staff those were indeed very dificult days. I particulary think that Jim Huton is an honest person, and i remember an interview on TV when he was asked about the behaviour of Mary Austin and Jim Beach after Freddie´s death- instead of going through it on TV he just said that what was written in the book about them was the thruth, and i really saw honesty in his eyes. Wheteher we like it or not i think Jim Huton was a very honest person to Freddie, and i don´t have reasons to believe that he just wanted to make extra money with the book (or that it was just the money). For me it´s very enlightning to read books from the guys who have lived with Freddie and really knew him well. What gets me really upset is when i read Barbara Valentim saying that the Queen staff (Jim Beach?) called her after Freddie´s death saying that Mary will play the widow??!!!- Am i the only one who thinks that something is wrong with this picture?- Mary will play the widow? Is that a fucking movie or something?- Didn´t she lived with someone at that time (the father of her kid?)- If she was my wife she wouldn´t play widow for anyone! But that´s showbizz, so they don´t mind about other people feelings. The people that made Freddie happy the last decade were put aside in his funeral because Jim Beach and Mary Austin simply never approved the way Freddie lived his life. I can understand Mary point of view, but Jim´s? Having read several bios about Freddie, including the excellent "The definitive Biography" by Leslie-Ann Jones i´m very inclined to think that both Freestone and Jim Huton were telling the truth with minor lapses in memory- wich are normal after such a chocking period- but i think the majority of it is written from the heart. It´s my opinion. Jim Huton says Jim Beach is a business man and i have to agree with him. But sometimes things cannot be distorted just because it´s good for the business. So, in my opinion, there are people who should be ashamed for their behaviour after Freddie´s dead and i don´t think it´s Jim Huton or Peter Freestone! Take care |
rosedewitt 02.01.2007 12:42 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote:at least one post from you to me which includes parts i can take for serious, thank you very much.rosedewitt wrote: very very adult..So he (doctor) is... They as adult as "my" words like "yes and amen holy music spender serry, you're always right"...yes, he could be wrong, but he could also be right, but you don't know it, - so why we discuss about it at all?! let people have their own opinion and own belief, and then it's ok.Hmm... Again - so it was my point actually and it was me who said that we could doubt (i.e. having different "opinion" to Freestone's) and you've started to discuss with me... Maybe you just forgot, I don't know... But let me explain you one thing - 'opinion' is very common word in your vocabulary and you use it any time when you need it, but you CAN'T have opinion about "2+2=4" or "Berlin is the capital of Germany" - that something what we call as a FACT. No matter what do you or I think about it - 2+2 still =4. Freddie's last words are FACT, not someone's OPINION. We all know just the unproven fact from the man who was wrong with some other details. It has nothing to do with opinions, making idiots of QZers etc. You believe to Freestone - okay, I haven't said that I don't believe him - I just wrote that our belief to his words is blind. sry that you didn't understand my sarcastic joke "yes and amen holy music spender serry, you're always right"..., - if you hadn't cut the quote out of the context you would have understand that it was not meant to be serious. maybe you don't understand. of course it's a fact that freddie had last words and maybe no one will ever know. but it's your or my opinion if you believe the last words jim hutton quotes are wrong or if i believe they are right. that is what i'm saying all the time, and with much less aggression towards me even you could read that. but thank you, in the future i will completely igonre comments which are really too dumb and even not worth reading them (and i don't meant your comments now, Serry Vietinhoff). |
rosedewitt 02.01.2007 12:52 |
Bobby_brown wrote: I mean, Freddie was in the last stage of his desease, and he have to deal with a broken bone in his body(?), and somwhere in the middle he almost asfixiated with a piece if fruit when he was eating his fruit salad?- Not to mention the fatal pneumonia he´s got? I mean, not even an healthy person would survive that!!!i remember that freddie himself wanted to stop taking medicines, like if he had decided to go, maybe that's why he also stopped eating (??). Bobby_brown wrote: What gets me really upset is when i read Barbara Valentim saying that the Queen staff (Jim Beach?) called her after Freddie´s death saying that Mary will play the widow??!!!- Am i the only one who thinks that something is wrong with this picture?- Mary will play the widow?they have hidden it very long that freddie was homosexual, and for the media mary and freddie were often shown as a couple. i can imagine that after his death they were not sure how to behave, and mary did also get most of the heritage so for the television it's a greater story to interview now the "widow". but that's just a suggestion of me. |
Serry... 02.01.2007 13:01 |
"but it's your or my opinion if you believe the last words jim hutton quotes are wrong or if i believe they are right." It's not opinion, it's belief. Opinion bases on something reliable, belief bases on nothing. "that is what i'm saying all the time, and with much less aggression towards me even you could read that." There wasn't any agression, there was question from me towards you - just open the first page of this thread and re-read WHO have started to use words "lie" and the most intelligent word ever - "idiot", and who have turned that into personal discussion about how bad and aggressive Serry is by the line "well, do YOU know it better?". And then open second page and see WHO came back to this thread (which was over) and started (especially after my comment to you "No more questions" which was final dot to me) to put words in my mouth (about "music spender") and thoughts to my mind (I want to make idiots of QZers - that's my plan) and discussing about ME, though I haven't discuss about you (though now I have right to do that), but about the book. I'm sorry but in all cases it wasn't me... It was you... And I'm sorry again but if you expect love from me after lines like "at least one post from you to me which includes parts i can take for serious" then I'm sorry for the third time... |
rosedewitt 02.01.2007 14:42 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote: "but it's your or my opinion if you believe the last words jim hutton quotes are wrong or if i believe they are right." It's not opinion, it's belief. Opinion bases on something reliable, belief bases on nothing. And I'm sorry again but if you expect love from me after lines like "at least one post from you to me which includes parts i can take for serious" then I'm sorry for the third time...sry i confused the words "opinion" and "belief" in this case, - that's why english isn't my first language. i don't expect love from you, - i would prefer if you could behave just normal. or if that's not possible, you could just ignore me. |
seba_79 02.01.2007 16:15 |
interveiw the day before he died? Its a Joke?? ASSHOLE.! |
simps 02.01.2007 17:27 |
seba_79 wrote: interveiw the day before he died? Its a Joke?? ASSHOLE.!Calm the heck down!I didn't know.Ok! |
rosedewitt 05.01.2007 16:50 |
but when you are interested in freddies last few days you could read peter freestones "freddie mercury", you adept very much about freddies last days. |
Jjeroen 05.01.2007 16:56 |
Oh, I missed this one! New perspective! --- Let me suggest you read Freddie's autobiography 'Me, Mercury'! |
Serry... 05.01.2007 16:58 |
Click it, man! Otherwise page will blow up my screen! EDIT: jeroen, I can't follow for your edits... You do it with speed of light... You're the king! |
rosedewitt 05.01.2007 17:01 |
jeroen wrote: Oh, I missed this one! New perspective! --- Let me suggest you read Freddie's autobiography 'Me, Mercury'!no i am reading "freddie mercury - the afterlife" |
Jjeroen 05.01.2007 17:18 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote: Click it, man! Otherwise page will blow up my screen! EDIT: jeroen, I can't follow for your edits... You do it with speed of light... You're the king!*kiss* And your the king in reading anything the second it hits the screen. My frustrated scream back there has only been there for about TWO seconds MAX! ;-))) |
Serry... 06.01.2007 01:51 |
jeroen wrote: And your the king in reading anything the second it hits the screen.I still can't forget how two days ago you've edit one of your replies about Face It Alone. Watching it was like watching fucking cartoon! Greg Brooks is my best friend. Two secs later Greg Brooks is my best friend, you see. And then again Greg Brooks is my best friend, you see. :-) It was fantastic! |
Jjeroen 06.01.2007 05:23 |
Ah yes! Well, I can explain why those little things happen. When I write a little more then one sentence, I at one point wish to 'save' what I wrote. Because I quite regularly get errors at the moment I push 'post message', which means I have to write my rants all over again. And if there is one thing I hate...! Is writing my rants all over again! And yes, I do edit a lot. I write my thing and then realise 'oh, my God, they will not understand this... they will misinterpret this...' and then put the smiley there just to be sure even the retards get my sarcasm... Also I write a lot on QZ from the office. If I don't push 'post' before I answer the phone, I might be hopelessly behind on the discussion. But I must admit: that last one is a remainder of the olden days. Years and years ago, when discussios on Queenzone were still fierce and interesting! ;-) |
Jjeroen 06.01.2007 05:25 |
^There, Serry! I did it again! Did you see it? Did you see it?? |
Jjeroen 06.01.2007 05:39 |
Good morning, by the way ;-) |
Serry... 07.01.2007 02:43 |
You don't have to explain your magic, jeroen :) |
gnomo 16.01.2007 05:34 |
Dane wrote: who gives a poop about truthsI just hope that was meant sarcastically... |