| theCro 29.11.2006 18:58 |
i'm getting really annoyed with few people who claim they have Driven By You - Freddie version...i was wondering if this really exist or its a hoax...anyway did Freddie ever heard Brian's demo or something about Driven By You thanks! |
| FriedChicken 29.11.2006 19:17 |
Freddie never recorded it. Ofcourse Freddie heard the song. It was released before he died, if i'm not mistaken. He loved the song and encouraged Brian to work on it for his solo alubm instead of donating it to Queen |
| Serry... 30.11.2006 01:12 |
FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: It was released before he died, if i'm not mistaken.You are mistaken. It was released on the next day after Freddie's death. |
| theCro 30.11.2006 04:23 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote:i'm sure he heard demo or full version before he died...FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: It was released before he died, if i'm not mistaken.You are mistaken. It was released on the next day after Freddie's death. |
| FriedChicken 30.11.2006 04:52 |
Well he at least heard a demo since he told Brian it was a great song. But I guess the final take was done some time before the release. So I guess Freddie must've heard the final product |
| Voice of Reason 2018 30.11.2006 05:59 |
and Freddie probably heard it on the Ford ads that summer! |
| theCro 30.11.2006 07:53 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote:i'm sure he heard demo or full version before he died...FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: It was released before he died, if i'm not mistaken.You are mistaken. It was released on the next day after Freddie's death. i'm glad he heard it :) |
| Adam Baboolal 30.11.2006 09:41 |
I'm sure I heard somewhere that Brian was told by Freddie to release the song and his album because it would be great publicity "dear"! Seriously, either it was from a video I've seen or somewhere else. Adam. |
| Bobby_brown 30.11.2006 10:34 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: I'm sure I heard somewhere that Brian was told by Freddie to release the song and his album because it would be great publicity "dear"! Seriously, either it was from a video I've seen or somewhere else. Adam.I read that, and i think it was from a Brian interview. He said he told Freddie he wasn´t shure to release the single in that period of time (since everybody knew Freddie wasn´t going to live through Christmas). According to him Freddie gave his suport to release it! And Brian told this because after Freddie´s death the press started to say that Brian was taking advantage of the situation to launch is solo career!!- British press at it´s best!!! Take care |
| Serry... 30.11.2006 11:35 |
Freddie didn't say that to Brian, it was said to Jim Beach. Freddie could hear that song on Expo '92 (October 1991). |
| bigV 30.11.2006 16:09 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote: Freddie didn't say that to Brian, it was said to Jim Beach. Freddie could hear that song on Expo '92 (October 1991).There's a passage mentioning the discussion between Freddie and Jim Beach in the band's official biography "Queen (As It Began)" by Jim Jenkins and Jacky Gunn. Call it wishful thinking, but I really think that there IS a Freddie demo even if it is unpolished. I do believe that Freddie might have given it a try while working on the final sessions for "Made In Heaven". GREEEEEEG! V. |
| Jjeroen 01.12.2006 04:33 |
I don't think so (though I'd love to hear different!). Drive By You was written by Brian on request for the Ford Ad en later on re-worked (mostly lyric-wise) for his own album version. Anyway this has always meant to be a song by Brian for the Ford ad - he was the one to be signed for that job so it was always clear that a release would be a 'solo'-job. There was just no reason for Freddie to record this other then recording as much as possible to leave behind for the band to work with - but they utilised Freddie's strengths to the limit already with other songs... But indeed, I'd love to hear different. WO IST DAS AAAARCHIVIST?! ;-) |
| Roy ® 01.12.2006 05:41 |
jeroen wrote: I don't think so (though I'd love to hear different!). Drive By You was written by Brian on request for the Ford Ad en later on re-worked (mostly lyric-wise) for his own album version. Anyway this has always meant to be a song by Brian for the Ford ad - he was the one to be signed for that job so it was always clear that a release would be a 'solo'-job. There was just no reason for Freddie to record this other then recording as much as possible to leave behind for the band to work with - but they utilised Freddie's strengths to the limit already with other songs... But indeed, I'd love to hear different. WO IST DAS AAAARCHIVIST?! ;-)Das Archivist ist ein pippie machen, so don't expect an answer :) But Greg allready stated that he didn't ever heard an Freddie version. But if we can take that as a fact ?? |
| Jjeroen 01.12.2006 06:07 |
Also, since this song was connected to Ford, one could expext all kinds of legal issues if one wanted to release a different version entitled to another artist name. Which would mean that Freddie singing it with whatever intend, would be probably useless as it would never be released anyway... (But of course we don't know what was in the contract, so this is still heavy speculation). Altogether - again I find it highly unlikely that Freddie was ever involved in an alternate recording of this song. |
| Bobby_brown 01.12.2006 18:24 |
jeroen wrote: I don't think so (though I'd love to hear different!). Drive By You was written by Brian on request for the Ford Ad en later on re-worked (mostly lyric-wise) for his own album version. Anyway this has always meant to be a song by Brian for the Ford ad - he was the one to be signed for that job so it was always clear that a release would be a 'solo'-job. There was just no reason for Freddie to record this other then recording as much as possible to leave behind for the band to work with - but they utilised Freddie's strengths to the limit already with other songs... But indeed, I'd love to hear different. WO IST DAS AAAARCHIVIST?! ;-)That´s a very good point. Even though i would love to hear it, i don´t think it happened at all! Take care |
| Adam Baboolal 02.12.2006 14:46 |
Hang on... what legal issues? If Brian did two different versions, 1 being the ford and 2 being the bri album version, how would there be legal issues? It's not like ford own anything to do with that song from 1991/2. If there is some legal entanglement looming over the prospect of a different version, what exactly is this legal issue. I think it's a helluva presumption to make about that song. Adam. |
| Cwazy little thing 03.12.2006 07:25 |
Roy ® wrote:If Greg says he's never heard it - thats good enough for me, but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist somewhere I guess, he just might never have heard it. Its probably in Brians loft....jeroen wrote: I don't think so (though I'd love to hear different!). Drive By You was written by Brian on request for the Ford Ad en later on re-worked (mostly lyric-wise) for his own album version. Anyway this has always meant to be a song by Brian for the Ford ad - he was the one to be signed for that job so it was always clear that a release would be a 'solo'-job. There was just no reason for Freddie to record this other then recording as much as possible to leave behind for the band to work with - but they utilised Freddie's strengths to the limit already with other songs... But indeed, I'd love to hear different. WO IST DAS AAAARCHIVIST?! ;-)Das Archivist ist ein pippie machen, so don't expect an answer :) But Greg allready stated that he didn't ever heard an Freddie version. But if we can take that as a fact ?? |
| FriedChicken 03.12.2006 10:41 |
I seriously doubt that Brian has stacked tons of demos at his house. If there would've been a Freddie version it would most likely be a proper studio recording. And since it was not recorded at Brians house (like home demo's etc) it's not likely that he has the original analog/digital or harddisk at his house. |
| Borhap80 04.12.2006 05:43 |
Considering how sick Freddie was in that periode might also mean that he didnt have energy to do it... He struggled during the Innuendo og Made in Heaven sessions.... so... I mean, do you think he did it....?? I hope so, but... |
| Benn 04.12.2006 06:45 |
Thomas, There were no Made In Heaven "sessions" that featured Freddie - the material was either left over from Innuendo or was recorded for possible future use as the rest of the band saw fit. FriedChicken, Brian is an avid collector to the point of obsessionist. Greg's book (as and when it comes out) will display just that. He made a conscious decision to ensure that material he was "able" to have control over, was logged and stored correctly. It's highly likely that HIS collection is a vastly better archive than anything QPL would have access too. |
| Adam Baboolal 04.12.2006 15:32 |
Benn wrote: Thomas, There were no Made In Heaven "sessions" that featured Freddie - the material was either left over from Innuendo or was recorded for possible future use as the rest of the band saw fit.Ehm... no. Watching something like Champions of the World shows that he was recording AFTER Innuendo. And let us not forget that his last recorded vocal is said to be from 3 weeks before his death. So, THESE recordings ARE part of the MIH sessions. That's the album they're heard on. Adam. |
| Micrówave 04.12.2006 18:08 |
Benn wrote: Thomas, There were no Made In Heaven "sessions" that featured Freddie - the material was either left over from Innuendo or was recorded for possible future use as the rest of the band saw fit.Oh yeah? Well then who was that at the end of the "No One But You" video, smartypants? |
| Benn 05.12.2006 05:22 |
1/4 Microwave: >Oh yeah? Well then who was that at the end of the "No One But You" video, smartypants? I have no idea what you're refering to. Please explain. |
| bigV 05.12.2006 10:15 |
¼Microwave wrote:The guy saying "Cut! Alright that's a cut!"Benn wrote: Thomas, There were no Made In Heaven "sessions" that featured Freddie - the material was either left over from Innuendo or was recorded for possible future use as the rest of the band saw fit.Oh yeah? Well then who was that at the end of the "No One But You" video, smartypants? I can't SERIOUSLY think that was Freddie? V. |
| Lester Burnham 05.12.2006 11:02 |
Silly people - Mr. Kitchen Appliance was making a reference to the DoRo version of NOBY with Freddie at the end. The true MIH sessions were the ones held between 1993 and 1995, but the sessions in 1991 were merely just post-Innuendo sessions. There was no conclusive idea with what the band would do with the songs from those sessions; they originally wanted to use them as B-sides, but then decided to try for an album. |
| bigV 05.12.2006 12:02 |
Lester Burnham wrote: Silly people - Mr. Kitchen Appliance was making a reference to the DoRo version of NOBY with Freddie at the end. The true MIH sessions were the ones held between 1993 and 1995, but the sessions in 1991 were merely just post-Innuendo sessions. There was no conclusive idea with what the band would do with the songs from those sessions; they originally wanted to use them as B-sides, but then decided to try for an album.But Freddie definetely wanted these tracks released, which is why he worked until the very end. Reference point: "Champions of the World" documentary, David Richards interview. V. |
| Adam Baboolal 05.12.2006 12:31 |
So picky about what can be called an MIH session and what can't! lol That's just so weird. Does it really matter whether they're called post-innuendo or MIH sessions?? No. What matters is the work that Freddie did post-innuendo, ended up on MIH. Pick-eey! Adam. |
| Lester Burnham 05.12.2006 12:51 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: So picky about what can be called an MIH session and what can't! lol That's just so weird. Does it really matter whether they're called post-innuendo or MIH sessions?? No. What matters is the work that Freddie did post-innuendo, ended up on MIH. Pick-eey! Adam.Well Adam, you questioned it too, so you're just as "pick-eey" as me and Benn. As for it really mattering -- you're right, it doesn't. For all we know, the sessions could've been called "The Epic Yule Log sessions" but it still wouldn't take away from what MIH eventually became. |
| Micrówave 05.12.2006 18:37 |
Lester Burnham wrote: but it still wouldn't take away from what MIH eventually became.... that's right! Fuel for The Return Of The Champions!!!!! |
| bigV 06.12.2006 02:40 |
¼Microwave wrote:Is that a bad thing?Lester Burnham wrote: but it still wouldn't take away from what MIH eventually became.... that's right! Fuel for The Return Of The Champions!!!!! V. |
| Crezchi 11.12.2006 07:43 |
jeroen wrote: Also, since this song was connected to Ford, one could expext all kinds of legal issues if one wanted to release a different version entitled to another artist name. Which would mean that Freddie singing it with whatever intend, would be probably useless as it would never be released anyway... (But of course we don't know what was in the contract, so this is still heavy speculation). Altogether - again I find it highly unlikely that Freddie was ever involved in an alternate recording of this song.The song was NOT written for the British Ford Ad. It was written for his future Solo album, he wrote this in 1990, he changed the lyrics to suit the ad, where in the hell do you people get your facts anyways? Greg perhaps? |
| Lester Burnham 11.12.2006 08:09 |
Crezchi wrote: The song was NOT written for the British Ford Ad. It was written for his future Solo album, he wrote this in 1990, he changed the lyrics to suit the ad, where in the hell do you people get your facts anyways? Greg perhaps?Or maybe from Brian in a contemporary interview, where he says he was approached by the Ford company who asked him to record a song for an ad, and the phrase "Driven by you" was one of the phrases provided to him, and so he made it a universal thing, something that could be used for both the ad and his solo album, so it was written initially for the ad and then turned into a full song for his solo album? |
| Jjeroen 11.12.2006 09:56 |
Crezchi wrote:Where the hell do YOU get your information from and what makes you so sure that YOU are the one that got the right information? Queenzone perhaps?jeroen wrote: Also, since this song was connected to Ford, one could expext all kinds of legal issues if one wanted to release a different version entitled to another artist name. Which would mean that Freddie singing it with whatever intend, would be probably useless as it would never be released anyway... (But of course we don't know what was in the contract, so this is still heavy speculation). Altogether - again I find it highly unlikely that Freddie was ever involved in an alternate recording of this song.The song was NOT written for the British Ford Ad. It was written for his future Solo album, he wrote this in 1990, he changed the lyrics to suit the ad, where in the hell do you people get your facts anyways? Greg perhaps? |
| Jjeroen 20.12.2006 07:35 |
How coincidently that Brian now mentions the song on his website in relation to Ford. This is what he said: "I dont think Ford took up the option to keep the use of the song ... but of course they own the title forever ! Cheers" And there you have it! :-) |
| Lisser 20.12.2006 09:48 |
I never questioned you Jeroen. I knew your information was accurate. :) |
| PieterMC 20.12.2006 10:17 |
On the Ford Driven by You EPK Brian says that he was approached by Ford to write a song. At first he said no but then changed his mind. He said he would only do it if it felt right, or some crap like that. So Driven by You was originally written for Ford. |
| Jjeroen 22.12.2006 09:21 |
Thank you, darlings. Of course you knew all along that I am the one and only GB. :-) Crezchi's sadly gone quiet though... |
| Crezchi 23.12.2006 15:14 |
jeroen wrote: Thank you, darlings. Of course you knew all along that I am the one and only GB. :-) Crezchi's sadly gone quiet though...I haven't gone quiet, i was on a holiday, but why should i say anymore? For the brainwashed Queenzoner's to argue? Not the type of person to attempt that. |
| Jjeroen 24.12.2006 08:10 |
Crezchi wrote:Well, the non-brainwashed QZ'ers can always attempt to continue and interesting discussion with sensible points that could eventually shed more light on the matter.jeroen wrote: Thank you, darlings. Of course you knew all along that I am the one and only GB. :-) Crezchi's sadly gone quiet though...I haven't gone quiet, i was on a holiday, but why should i say anymore? For the brainwashed Queenzoner's to argue? Not the type of person to attempt that. But indeed, if one is so certain about his point, that he or she is not willing to have a look at arguments that might prove otherwise, you are right that there is no use is saying anymore. |
| Crezchi 24.12.2006 15:22 |
jeroen wrote:Lol. You have no clue Mr. GeertsCrezchi wrote:Well, the non-brainwashed QZ'ers can always attempt to continue and interesting discussion with sensible points that could eventually shed more light on the matter. But indeed, if one is so certain about his point, that he or she is not willing to have a look at arguments that might prove otherwise, you are right that there is no use is saying anymore.jeroen wrote: Thank you, darlings. Of course you knew all along that I am the one and only GB. :-) Crezchi's sadly gone quiet though...I haven't gone quiet, i was on a holiday, but why should i say anymore? For the brainwashed Queenzoner's to argue? Not the type of person to attempt that. |
| Lester Burnham 24.12.2006 16:39 |
Crezchi wrote: Lol. You have no clue Mr. GeertsWhy not enlighten us then. |
| Jjeroen 25.12.2006 06:09 |
Crezchi wrote:If I'm so brainwashed by Mr May and Mr Brooks, please try to rehash me!jeroen wrote:Lol. You have no clue Mr. GeertsCrezchi wrote:Well, the non-brainwashed QZ'ers can always attempt to continue and interesting discussion with sensible points that could eventually shed more light on the matter. But indeed, if one is so certain about his point, that he or she is not willing to have a look at arguments that might prove otherwise, you are right that there is no use is saying anymore.jeroen wrote: Thank you, darlings. Of course you knew all along that I am the one and only GB. :-) Crezchi's sadly gone quiet though...I haven't gone quiet, i was on a holiday, but why should i say anymore? For the brainwashed Queenzoner's to argue? Not the type of person to attempt that. From some, very few, people in some issues you may assume one can take their word. But unfortunately YOU telling us "It's like this and that" is not enough. You still have not answered the question where YOU get your info from, which is pretty important when you try to convince someone. We have at least two printed interviews from the 90's, the Back to the Light EPK and Brian's recent post on his website CLEARLY telling us otherwise AND the possible hint in the fact that Driven By You is the only song on BTTL credited to Raincloud Productions instead of Duck Productions... Your turn. |
| Serry... 25.12.2006 07:28 |
I Go Crazy is the only song from The Works days which was 'copyrighted' in 1983, while the rest of the tracks in 1984... Those strange small letters on The Works sleeve... Roger's thanking Spike on The Cross' album... Mysterious secrets, how I love 'em! |
| Jjeroen 25.12.2006 08:08 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote: I Go Crazy is the only song from The Works days which was 'copyrighted' in 1983, while the rest of the tracks in 1984... Those strange small letters on The Works sleeve... Roger's thanking Spike on The Cross' album... Mysterious secrets, how I love 'em!I Go Crazy is not so mysterious, as it was first recorded (instrumental) during the Hot Space sessions. (*Waiting for the next one to call me a fool or a liar*) |
| Serry... 25.12.2006 08:14 |
jeroen wrote: I Go Crazy is not so mysterious, as it was first recorded (instrumental) during the Hot Space sessions.Err... 1983 and Hot Space? ;) The whole The Works was recorded in 1983, Radio GaGa promo was shoot in 1983... |
| Crezchi 25.12.2006 15:30 |
lol. you guys are crazy :P Actually i get my facts from 2 different people! Brian's own words and JSS. I am not here to argue, just sharing my info. The copyright or date of the writings of DBY had nothing to do with my rebuttle. My point was that he wrote the lyrics in 1990, and Ford did not approach him until 1991. The track in question's lyrics were not written exclusively for British Ford. I used to have a copy of the deal, i will look for it and share it. Ford's contract wasn't even approached until December of 1991. He changed some of the lyrics and re-recorded the vocal tracks. He may have written the music after Dec '91, but the lyrics are from 1990. If i am not mistaken i was told it was about Anita. |
| Serry... 26.12.2006 00:23 |
Crezchi wrote: He may have written the music after Dec '91, but the lyrics are from 1990.Song was released in November of 1991 and performed for the first time in October (or September?)... |
| Crezchi 26.12.2006 05:52 |
Serry Vietinhoff wrote:As i said, the first approach to Brian or Duck Productions was not until December of 1991.Crezchi wrote: He may have written the music after Dec '91, but the lyrics are from 1990.Song was released in November of 1991 and performed for the first time in October (or September?)... |
| Bobby_brown 26.12.2006 13:25 |
Crezchi wrote:So, are you saying that Ford only approached Brian after they´ve heard the single version?Serry Vietinhoff wrote:As i said, the first approach to Brian or Duck Productions was not until December of 1991.Crezchi wrote: He may have written the music after Dec '91, but the lyrics are from 1990.Song was released in November of 1991 and performed for the first time in October (or September?)... Well, if you´re right (wich i doubt- unless you can prove it), then Brian speech doesn´t make sense, and leads me to think that he really has severall problems with his memory!! I mean, he keeps saying that Queen II is his favourite Queen album, and he says in every interview that "My Fairy King" is from Queen II! What you´re claiming is the totally opposite from what Brian´s saying. Good luck on that! Take care |
| Lester Burnham 26.12.2006 14:17 |
OK, so if Ford Motor Company approached Brian in December 1991, then explain Brian's quote here: “I thought advertising was a dirty word, and I didn’t want much to do with it. But these ad guys threw some slogans at me and I thought, ‘Well, I can do it if I relate to my own experiences and my own feelings’. And the phrase ‘driven by you’ immediately jumped out as a description of the way I saw the power struggle between two people in a relationship – it just poured out. I wrote a version for me, and I wrote a version for the ad people, and it worked out great. It was a good kick up the backside for me, too, because these people work quickly and do high quality work. On English television, the adverts are a lot better than the programming!” That quote was from the summer of 1991. However, according to Crezchi: 1. Brian wrote and recorded a song called 'Driven By You'; 2. The song was released toward the end of November 1991; 3. Ford executives, who had been working on an ad campaign no doubt for months - because these things can't be dreamed up overnight! - approached Brian WITH THE SAME EXACT PHRASE, COINCIDENTALLY, AS HIS LATEST SINGLE and asked if they could use the song in their own ad campaign; 4. Despite having to endure the death of his friend and fellow bandmate, Brian decided to drop everything and record an ad version for Ford Motor Company. Or how about this more plausible situation: 1. Brian was approached by Ford in the spring of 1991; 2. Despite his initial reluctance, he warmed to the idea of recording a jingle for the company once he heard the powerful phrase, "Driven by you"; 3. He recorded two versions: one was the ad version, and the other was a version that was released on the solo album he was working on; 4. The ad was run in the autumn of 1991; 5. People who saw the commercial and loved the song were so demanding that they have the single that Parlophone rush-released it, due for release on November 25th; 6. Freddie knew he was going to die soon, and Brian was worried that it might appear as if he was cashing in on his death; 7. Freddie said "don't worry, release it anyway", and Brian did; 8. The single became a smash hit in December 1991. Which makes more sense? |
| Crezchi 26.12.2006 18:49 |
Lol. Nice Wiki research. Why not just ask Brian or JSS? |
| Lester Burnham 26.12.2006 21:35 |
Lol. OK, show us your own quotes from Brian and JSS lol |
| Jjeroen 27.12.2006 04:32 |
Crezchi wrote: Lol. Nice Wiki research. Why not just ask Brian or JSS?Why ask Brian (again), when you already know he says something else then you do?? |
| Crezchi 27.12.2006 05:22 |
jeroen wrote:Lol. He said something entirely different to me, moi, myself. Bugger off wankerCrezchi wrote: Lol. Nice Wiki research. Why not just ask Brian or JSS?Why ask Brian (again), when you already know he says something else then you do?? |
| Jjeroen 27.12.2006 05:51 |
Crezchi wrote:Such a shame some people feel the need to start calling names whenever they realise they cannot win a discussion.jeroen wrote:Lol. He said something entirely different to me, moi, myself. Bugger off wankerCrezchi wrote: Lol. Nice Wiki research. Why not just ask Brian or JSS?Why ask Brian (again), when you already know he says something else then you do?? |
| Crezchi 27.12.2006 08:03 |
jeroen wrote:Lol. Such a shame that certain people feel the need to win a discussion on a fan forum, especially when they have never even saw the members, ever. About this argument, Frankly Mr. Geerts i don't give a damn. Good day.Crezchi wrote:Such a shame some people feel the need to start calling names whenever they realise they cannot win a discussion.jeroen wrote:Lol. He said something entirely different to me, moi, myself. Bugger off wankerCrezchi wrote: Lol. Nice Wiki research. Why not just ask Brian or JSS?Why ask Brian (again), when you already know he says something else then you do?? |
| Lester Burnham 27.12.2006 08:12 |
All we're asking is for you to show some proof from Brian or JSS, and you can't even do that. Should we just take your word for it? We've never even "saw" you before! (lol) |
| Jjeroen 27.12.2006 08:30 |
Crezchi wrote:Such ignorance.jeroen wrote:Lol. Such a shame that certain people feel the need to win a discussion on a fan forum, especially when they have never even saw the members, ever. About this argument, Frankly Mr. Geerts i don't give a damn. Good day.Crezchi wrote:Such a shame some people feel the need to start calling names whenever they realise they cannot win a discussion.jeroen wrote:Lol. He said something entirely different to me, moi, myself. Bugger off wankerCrezchi wrote: Lol. Nice Wiki research. Why not just ask Brian or JSS?Why ask Brian (again), when you already know he says something else then you do?? It's a pathetic argument anyway but... "Never even saw the bandmembers"...????? LO VERY VERY Loud!! Fool. You MUST have mistaken me for someone else, dude. As I've had the privilage of seeing ALL and meeting three of the bandmembers numbers of times (including Freddie, DEAR!) in both private and business-situations. (And I do believe that is pretty common knowledge in here.) |
| Roy ® 27.12.2006 10:44 |
jeroen wrote:Hi there Jeroen, nice discussion again :)Crezchi wrote:Such ignorance. It's a pathetic argument anyway but... "Never even saw the bandmembers"...????? LO VERY VERY Loud!! Fool. You MUST have mistaken me for someone else, dude. As I've had the privilage of seeing ALL and meeting three of the bandmembers numbers of times (including Freddie, DEAR!) in both private and business-situations. (And I do believe that is pretty common knowledge in here.)jeroen wrote:Lol. Such a shame that certain people feel the need to win a discussion on a fan forum, especially when they have never even saw the members, ever. About this argument, Frankly Mr. Geerts i don't give a damn. Good day.Crezchi wrote:Such a shame some people feel the need to start calling names whenever they realise they cannot win a discussion.jeroen wrote:Lol. He said something entirely different to me, moi, myself. Bugger off wankerCrezchi wrote: Lol. Nice Wiki research. Why not just ask Brian or JSS?Why ask Brian (again), when you already know he says something else then you do?? But it's indeed the truth. Jeroen met them :) |
| Crezchi 27.12.2006 16:17 |
jeroen wrote:ewww, aren't you special. lol. And so have i, but on a very personal level. Do you think i really care about you and your shitty writings? NOPE!Crezchi wrote:Such ignorance. It's a pathetic argument anyway but... "Never even saw the bandmembers"...????? LO VERY VERY Loud!! Fool. You MUST have mistaken me for someone else, dude. As I've had the privilage of seeing ALL and meeting three of the bandmembers numbers of times (including Freddie, DEAR!) in both private and business-situations. (And I do believe that is pretty common knowledge in here.)jeroen wrote:Lol. Such a shame that certain people feel the need to win a discussion on a fan forum, especially when they have never even saw the members, ever. About this argument, Frankly Mr. Geerts i don't give a damn. Good day.Crezchi wrote:Such a shame some people feel the need to start calling names whenever they realise they cannot win a discussion.jeroen wrote:Lol. He said something entirely different to me, moi, myself. Bugger off wankerCrezchi wrote: Lol. Nice Wiki research. Why not just ask Brian or JSS?Why ask Brian (again), when you already know he says something else then you do?? |
| Crezchi 27.12.2006 16:19 |
Lester Burnham wrote: All we're asking is for you to show some proof from Brian or JSS, and you can't even do that. Should we just take your word for it? We've never even "saw" you before! (lol)Actually you have. lol. Maybe take a look at many of photos on here and other sites. lol. And another thing, i don't think anyone has formerly 'ASKED' me for proof!? |
| kdj2hot 27.12.2006 20:07 |
Crezchi wrote:Yeah, there's no Brian or Roger on Barcelona. Just because Brian was in Queen everything don't have to run through the Queen system and I'm sure he saw no reason to involve Freddie. But no one is providing conclusive evidence. Yeah it was an idea that germinated (is that even a word lol ) by Ford ad folks but then post cit brian as saying he wrote a version for himself and Ford and tha the song was written in 1990. It's incredibly possible that he could have let Freddie sing a version of it even though it was for him. Before you guys keep beating on on that czect guy consider that too much love will kll yu was written for Bran originally. Why would Freddie do version in 1988? It's really simlar situaions I think.Lester Burnham wrote: All we're asking is for you to show some proof from Brian or JSS, and you can't even do that. Should we just take your word for it? We've never even "saw" you before! (lol)Actually you have. lol. Maybe take a look at many of photos on here and other sites. lol. And another thing, i don't think anyone has formerly 'ASKED' me for proof!? A major difference is we have the fredde version of that but no shred of proof and a lot circumstantial evidence against a Freddie version of Driven by You. |
| Lester Burnham 27.12.2006 20:12 |
Crezchi wrote:I would lol ask you lol for proof lol but I have a feeling lol it'd be a waste lol of my time lol. I trust my own research and jeroen.Lester Burnham wrote: All we're asking is for you to show some proof from Brian or JSS, and you can't even do that. Should we just take your word for it? We've never even "saw" you before! (lol)Actually you have. lol. Maybe take a look at many of photos on here and other sites. lol. And another thing, i don't think anyone has formerly 'ASKED' me for proof!? LOL!!! |
| john bodega 27.12.2006 23:39 |
Lester Burnham wrote:LOL LOLOLOLOL LOLCrezchi wrote:I would lol ask you lol for proof lol but I have a feeling lol it'd be a waste lol of my time lol. I trust my own research and jeroen. LOL!!!Lester Burnham wrote: All we're asking is for you to show some proof from Brian or JSS, and you can't even do that. Should we just take your word for it? We've never even "saw" you before! (lol)Actually you have. lol. Maybe take a look at many of photos on here and other sites. lol. And another thing, i don't think anyone has formerly 'ASKED' me for proof!? LOL LOL LOL LOL Ugh I was going to make some ASCII art with the word LOL but it's not working properly. Oh well! |
| Lester Burnham 28.12.2006 02:47 |
Zebonka12 wrote:lolLester Burnham wrote:LOL LOLOLOLOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Ugh I was going to make some ASCII art with the word LOL but it's not working properly. Oh well!Crezchi wrote:I would lol ask you lol for proof lol but I have a feeling lol it'd be a waste lol of my time lol. I trust my own research and jeroen. LOL!!!Lester Burnham wrote: All we're asking is for you to show some proof from Brian or JSS, and you can't even do that. Should we just take your word for it? We've never even "saw" you before! (lol)Actually you have. lol. Maybe take a look at many of photos on here and other sites. lol. And another thing, i don't think anyone has formerly 'ASKED' me for proof!? |
| Crezchi 28.12.2006 03:08 |
Lester Burnham wrote:That is great! Go on trusting your research and Mr. Geerts. That is all it is anyways, research, isn't it? Good day Sirs.Crezchi wrote:I would lol ask you lol for proof lol but I have a feeling lol it'd be a waste lol of my time lol. I trust my own research and jeroen. LOL!!!Lester Burnham wrote: All we're asking is for you to show some proof from Brian or JSS, and you can't even do that. Should we just take your word for it? We've never even "saw" you before! (lol)Actually you have. lol. Maybe take a look at many of photos on here and other sites. lol. And another thing, i don't think anyone has formerly 'ASKED' me for proof!? |
| Jjeroen 28.12.2006 05:38 |
Crezchi wrote:Tata!Lester Burnham wrote:That is great! Go on trusting your research and Mr. Geerts. That is all it is anyways, research, isn't it? Good day Sirs.Crezchi wrote:I would lol ask you lol for proof lol but I have a feeling lol it'd be a waste lol of my time lol. I trust my own research and jeroen. LOL!!!Lester Burnham wrote: All we're asking is for you to show some proof from Brian or JSS, and you can't even do that. Should we just take your word for it? We've never even "saw" you before! (lol)Actually you have. lol. Maybe take a look at many of photos on here and other sites. lol. And another thing, i don't think anyone has formerly 'ASKED' me for proof!? |
| Jjeroen 28.12.2006 06:10 |
Anyway; back on topic. The thesis, before Sire Crez took us somewhere else by starting about the time of the actual writing of the song, was that it is pretty unlikely that Freddie ever sang Driven by You and that Ford owns the title... The latter being stated clearly by Brian on his website last week. Any more opinions? (If anyone is still daring enough to present his opinion, that is...) |
| john bodega 28.12.2006 08:31 |
jeroen wrote: Any more opinions? (If anyone is still daring enough to present his opinion, that is...)I think the video for Driven By You is daggy. |