thomasquinn 32989 27.08.2006 08:56 |
link (Coltrane/Dolphy - "Impressions") link (Coltrane - "Naima" (easier to listen to than "Impressions")) Oh, and if you're a closed-minded pop-listener who isn't in for anything that isn't three-chord pop: best not look and best not respond. |
thomasquinn 32989 27.08.2006 08:59 |
And then there's Afro Blue: link |
Mr.Jingles 27.08.2006 09:25 |
I love classic Jazz. Now thanks to satellite radio I finally have the chance to enjoy this type of music. Before there wasn't one single station here in New York that played this type of Jazz 24/7 despite the fact that this city became a Mecca for Jazz musicians in the early 1900s. For the past decade all FM radio stations ended up becoming mainstream followers of either adult contemporary, classic rock, alternative, country or latin. Now I listen Classic Jazz at work, and trust me when I say that it relaxes me and helps me get through an stressful day. |
thomasquinn 32989 27.08.2006 09:30 |
Well, to be really exact, this is not what is considered "classic jazz". Classic Jazz refers to swing and bebop, while this is post-bop (Afro Blue and Naima) and even early free jazz (Impressions). However, the bottom line is that it's great music. |
john bodega 27.08.2006 10:01 |
I'd say that while music could be 'better', this is pretty sweet stuff. The kind of people I'd like to jam with. |
thomasquinn 32989 27.08.2006 10:09 |
Oh yeah! You'd have to die first, though. I guess that'd be well worth it though. The pianist (McCoy Tyner) is still alive; since he isn't the guy for extremely complicated piano playing, I think Trane might be inclined to let me have a shot at filling in for him :-) My dream-group would be something like: John Coltrane - Tenor and Soprano Sax Eric Dolphy - Flute, Alto Sax, Bass Clarinet Thomas Quinn - Piano (dream on, dream on...) Elvin Jones - Drums Reggie Workman - Bass Jimmy Garrison - Bass Ah yeah, blissful dreams... |
M a t i a s M a y 27.08.2006 12:49 |
- Does music get any better than this??? Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that. It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it. Cheers |
Mr.Jingles 27.08.2006 15:32 |
I'm not a Jazz buff, but I do enjoy the genre a lot. Whether it's swing style like Glenn Miller, Ella Fitzgerald, or quite simply traditional instrumental, Jazz is one of the most fascinating and musically crafted genres out there. |
The Real Wizard 27.08.2006 15:39 |
M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: - Does music get any better than this??? Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that. It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it. CheersAlthough I initially wanted to say I wouldn't dignify this post with a reply, I changed my mind, as that itself would be a reply. And since I've already said this much, I might as well reply. Please, don't talk crap about something you know nothing about. Improvising in pentatonic scales with a rock band is much different and much less complicated than jazz improv. Jazz is the hardest musical genre to fully understand, because it breaks all the rules - yet it sounds musical. Admit it... Jazz is WAY over your head. You've been making musically arrogant posts like this for many months now. Tell me, who are your top five musical influences? How close are you to understanding what they were all about? From this I can maybe get a decent understanding of where you are right now on your musical journey. |
AspiringPhilosophe 27.08.2006 15:52 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:I'll admit to that, and proudly!! While I love music that is vocally complicated (since I'm a vocalist by training and experience and so that's primarily what I'm listening for in any type of music...the lead voice if it's not a vocalist), I just can't focus on jazz. I generally need music or something around to help me think while I'm doing other things, and I can't do that with jazz. I might like it more if I had more knowledge of music theory, but I got short-changed on that in my acadmic career as yet.M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: - Does music get any better than this??? Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that. It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it. CheersAlthough I initially wanted to say I wouldn't dignify this post with a reply, I changed my mind, as that itself would be a reply. And since I've already said this much, I might as well reply. Please, don't talk crap about something you know nothing about. Improvising in pentatonic scales with a rock band is much different and much less complicated than jazz improv. Jazz is the hardest musical genre to fully understand, because it breaks all the rules - yet it sounds musical. Admit it... Jazz is WAY over your head. That being said...I did appreciate the links for what they were. :-) Excellent stuff musically. Just because I didn't understand what they were doing doesn't mean it wasn't good. Thanks for the links, Caspar |
SK 27.08.2006 16:48 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:^---Nothing but the truth. Jazz is an amazing genre. Glad to see fans of it around here. :)M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: - Does music get any better than this??? Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that. It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it. CheersAlthough I initially wanted to say I wouldn't dignify this post with a reply, I changed my mind, as that itself would be a reply. And since I've already said this much, I might as well reply. Please, don't talk crap about something you know nothing about. Improvising in pentatonic scales with a rock band is much different and much less complicated than jazz improv. Jazz is the hardest musical genre to fully understand, because it breaks all the rules - yet it sounds musical. Admit it... Jazz is WAY over your head. You've been making musically arrogant posts like this for many months now. Tell me, who are your top five musical influences? How close are you to understanding what they were all about? From this I can maybe get a decent understanding of where you are right now on your musical journey. |
That guy who digs energy domes 28.08.2006 00:49 |
You guys should really get into DEVO |
john bodega 28.08.2006 05:50 |
Whip it. Ok, to address the above stuff Matias and Sir GH are on about - Jazz is something you can almost 'fake', doing bastardized little jazz runs that one might've picked up here and there. But to be really, *really* good at it, you have to be a pretty damn flexible musician. I'd rate it just as tricky, if not trickier to understand than all that neo-classical stuff. I can't really keep up with the crazy chords one usually finds in jazz, but I can usually figure out something sweet with the bass, or pretty rudimentary little solos (the kind you play if you've got an Epiphone Casino. Haha). |
The Fairy King 28.08.2006 05:54 |
Not bad! Thanks for the links. |
iGSM 28.08.2006 05:56 |
I enjoyed that. I was expecting not to but just shut my brain up and listened. |
Oszmercury 28.08.2006 08:56 |
Coltrane is the man, a genius, his jazz is simply amazin, i love his later albums, full of experimentation, also check some Alice Coltrane, deep music. And the great Kind of Blue, one of the greatest ever, Miles, Freddie, John together Does music get any better than this??? I don't think so, yeah! |
Oszmercury 28.08.2006 08:59 |
M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: - Does music get any better than this??? Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that. It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it. CheersAre u serious?, well when you recorded somethin like "A love supreme", "Ascension", "Interstellar Space" give me a call, you can't go wrong with Mr Coltrane, he's not May for sure, so he's far away form him |
thomasquinn 32989 28.08.2006 09:09 |
Oszmercury wrote:Finally! Someone who also appreciates 'Ascension'! Thank heavens they are still around! I take it you enjoy Kulu Se Mama, Meditations (The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost most especially) and Sun Ship as well?M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: - Does music get any better than this??? Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that. It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it. CheersAre u serious?, well when you recorded somethin like "A love supreme", "Ascension", "Interstellar Space" give me a call, you can't go wrong with Mr Coltrane, he's not May for sure, so he's far away form him |
thomasquinn 32989 28.08.2006 09:10 |
M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: - Does music get any better than this??? Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that. It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it. CheersHad you not made it painfully obvious by means of your post that you know absolutely NOTHING about music, I would have had to attack you most fiercely about this. However, that is not the case, as you yourself deserve all the credit for tackling your post. |
Mr.Jingles 28.08.2006 09:13 |
The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: You guys should really get into DEVOWhy should we get into a crappy band that is only remembered for silly hats and a one hit wonder about masturbation. |
thomasquinn 32989 28.08.2006 10:03 |
The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: You guys should really get into DEVODo you hold stocks in that lousy band or something? Fucking cut the bullshit about those tossers, please. |
Oszmercury 28.08.2006 10:25 |
As i said before, i love rock and roll, but i mean, when we're talkin bout this kind of musicians, we're talkin bout genius, i'll check that songs thomas, thnks, i love coltrane, mr freddie hubbard's red clay. Miles Davis, anothr god, i love his electric era, since It's about that time until Agharta, he as someone said in the past "create the best rock band ever" only check Live-Evil |
thomasquinn 32989 28.08.2006 10:56 |
Personally, I'm not too wild about Davis' fusion period. After "Bitches Brew" it all went downhill, and in the '80s his trumpet-playing had degenerated from breathtaking and perfectly in tune to rather pathetic and ill-articulated. I'm a really big fan of Eric Dolphy myself, maybe you should give him a shot: link (he's the guy with the sax here) |
Sherwood Forest 28.08.2006 11:03 |
best music = link andddd.... link |
thomasquinn 32989 28.08.2006 11:28 |
Get a life. |
Sherwood Forest 28.08.2006 11:46 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: Get a life.hey atleast im not giving the specific life story of dr. dre and eminem |
Sherwood Forest 28.08.2006 11:47 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:yeup i have to agree right thereThe Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: You guys should really get into DEVOWhy should we get into a crappy band that is only remembered for silly hats and one hit wonder about masturbation. |
Mr.Jingles 28.08.2006 12:18 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: Get a life.C'mon Caspar... are you going to insult everyone who considers that there's something better musically than John Coltrane? My utter most respect to John Coltrane for being such a brilliant musician and an undeniable influence not only on Jazz, but all the genres that derived from it. However, there are things I enjoy more than that. Am I going to be insulted for that? |
john bodega 28.08.2006 12:22 |
It's like this - one may or may not like this kind of music. But one *cannot* discount the inherent musicality of it, the skill involved. I think Bela Fleck and his band play pretty chincy music, but the actual skill of the players.... FUCK ME FLAT, those guys are talented. Seriously, there are worlds of music that mightn't to your liking, peoples, but you have to learn when to at least appreciate the skills involved in creating it. |
user name 28.08.2006 14:54 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It's like this - one may or may not like this kind of music. But one *cannot* discount the inherent musicality of it, the skill involved. I think Bela Fleck and his band play pretty chincy music, but the actual skill of the players.... FUCK ME FLAT, those guys are talented. Seriously, there are worlds of music that mightn't to your liking, peoples, but you have to learn when to at least appreciate the skills involved in creating it.The same could be said about several guitar shredders out there, but it doesn't take any more than half a second for most people to dismiss them as "boring" or even "untalented." It's all about personal preference, really. |
thomasquinn 32989 28.08.2006 15:07 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:I don't see what the closest thing to porn has to do with music...which is pretty much what he posted with the first link. The latter may not be porn, but is still hardly any better.<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: Get a life.C'mon Caspar... are you going to insult everyone who considers that there's something better musically than John Coltrane? My utter most respect to John Coltrane for being such a brilliant musician and an undeniable influence not only on Jazz, but all the genres that derived from it. However, there are things I enjoy more than that. Am I going to be insulted for that? |
user name 28.08.2006 17:26 |
I personally don't think modern music gets any better than Eric Johnson. Seriously. Not only is his music great, but his guitar tone is the closest thing you'll ever get to hearing a seraphic angel sing to you. That is, under the assumption that an angel's ability to sing is kick-ass. link And he can appeal to a pop audience, as well as the most musically critical audiophiles, all at once: link Basically, typing Eric Johnson into Youtube is one of the greatest things you can do in your life. |
That guy who digs energy domes 28.08.2006 21:54 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:They're not right wing, I promiseThe Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: You guys should really get into DEVODo you hold stocks in that lousy band or something? Fucking cut the bullshit about those tossers, please. |
RETROLOVE 29.08.2006 01:11 |
Does anyone in here like Etta James??...she's one of my favorite jazz singers...I like her song At last God, how I long for the old days when I wasnt even born, music was so much better back then... :) |
thomasquinn 32989 29.08.2006 06:17 |
The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote:Neither is Robbie Williams, but he still sucks.<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:They're not right wing, I promiseThe Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: You guys should really get into DEVODo you hold stocks in that lousy band or something? Fucking cut the bullshit about those tossers, please. |
john bodega 29.08.2006 07:25 |
<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote:Hmmm... true enough. It's an old trap, in fact I've fallen into it myself several times.Zebonka12 wrote: It's like this - one may or may not like this kind of music. But one *cannot* discount the inherent musicality of it, the skill involved. I think Bela Fleck and his band play pretty chincy music, but the actual skill of the players.... FUCK ME FLAT, those guys are talented. Seriously, there are worlds of music that mightn't to your liking, peoples, but you have to learn when to at least appreciate the skills involved in creating it.The same could be said about several guitar shredders out there, but it doesn't take any more than half a second for most people to dismiss them as "boring" or even "untalented." It's all about personal preference, really. The thing is, I suppose there's no inherent lack of emotion in what a shredder might play - rather I should say that it evokes no emotion in me when I listen to it. It just sounds like finger exercises to me. That by no means takes away from the technical ability of the player - I'd never call Malmsteen crap. No fucking way. But I find his work overly pretentious (just look at some of his album titles, haha) and not as satisfying as the work of his influences. I must admit it might have something to do with : "I don't eat fockin' donuts". I mean... I seriously have listened to some pretty fiddly stuff in the past and gone 'oh, boring'. This does not at all mean I'm unimpressed by the quality of the playing. It means, when I hear stuff like "Technical Difficulties" or "Serrana" - I'm impressed purely as a player, but emotionally it leaves me dead. I like a solo I can whistle without getting a headache - solos that one can sing along with are usually found near the top of polls (Comfortably Numb, anyone?). |
That guy who digs energy domes 29.08.2006 22:05 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:A recent study shows it takes 8 1/2 bowls less to appreciate DEVO as opposed to Bob DylanThe Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote:Neither is Robbie Williams, but he still sucks.<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:They're not right wing, I promiseThe Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote: You guys should really get into DEVODo you hold stocks in that lousy band or something? Fucking cut the bullshit about those tossers, please. |
Sherwood Forest 29.08.2006 23:05 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:haha sorry i actually didnt watch the video i just listened to the song and thought it was funnyMr.Jingles wrote:I don't see what the closest thing to porn has to do with music...which is pretty much what he posted with the first link. The latter may not be porn, but is still hardly any better.<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: Get a life.C'mon Caspar... are you going to insult everyone who considers that there's something better musically than John Coltrane? My utter most respect to John Coltrane for being such a brilliant musician and an undeniable influence not only on Jazz, but all the genres that derived from it. However, there are things I enjoy more than that. Am I going to be insulted for that? |
Sherwood Forest 29.08.2006 23:06 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:haha u said that cuz i put up muse lol<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: Get a life.C'mon Caspar... are you going to insult everyone who considers that there's something better musically than John Coltrane? My utter most respect to John Coltrane for being such a brilliant musician and an undeniable influence not only on Jazz, but all the genres that derived from it. However, there are things I enjoy more than that. Am I going to be insulted for that? |
error 30.08.2006 05:51 |
Zebonka12 wrote: solos that one can sing along with are usually found near the top of polls (Comfortably Numb, anyone?).Hmm... Nah! Gimme Malmsteen please. |
The Real Wizard 30.08.2006 20:22 |
<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: I personally don't think modern music gets any better than Eric Johnson. Seriously. Not only is his music great, but his guitar tone is the closest thing you'll ever get to hearing a seraphic angel sing to you. That is, under the assumption that an angel's ability to sing is kick-ass. link And he can appeal to a pop audience, as well as the most musically critical audiophiles, all at once: link Basically, typing Eric Johnson into Youtube is one of the greatest things you can do in your life.Wow, those were fantastic. He is Clapton x 100. I always loved his tone on Cliffs Of Dover. One of the most beautiful guitar tones I've ever heard. |
john bodega 31.08.2006 15:10 |
Wow... EAT THAT MALMSTEEN. Now here's a player I can actually watch! Many thanks for those youtube vids. |
error 31.08.2006 16:00 |
Malmsteen, please. |
john bodega 02.09.2006 12:54 |
Well it could be worse, you could be repeating the phrase "Celine Dion please". |