QueenZone discussion #840555

freddieistheloveofmylife_89 wrote: Haha, Sk- you are my hero! I love the Beach Boys, I was raised on them. "Pet Sounds" was Brian's greatest accomplishment (maybe only second to his most recent album "Smile"). When Brian made this album, the rest of the guys scoffed at it, because it was far more progressive and musical than what they were used to. They wanted to stick to the easy pop songs. Thank God they finished this album. It's pure genius.

<font color=336600>ChinesedogTorture wrote: My sister is getting into the Beach Boys' work! :D She's getting Sounds of Summer soon.

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: Spector always overproduced, and always got away with it clean. You gotta dig surfsound. Just not the early junk the Beach Boys made. That was just as bad as pre-Rubber Soul Beatles.

<font color=blue>Rick wrote: I love The Beach Boys. Brian Wilson is indeed a genious. I have the Pet Sounds DVD-A, in 5.1 surround sound, it's freakin' awesome! They have some very clever songs, like 'Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring'. I saw this song live on youtube and the 4-part harmonies are so great! My favourite songs now are In My Room, Good Timin' and Disney Girls. But they have so many gems, I really can't choose anyway.

freddieistheloveofmylife_89 wrote: I don't really see it as pathetic. How could it be? Given their huge poplarity in the 60's, I don't think most other people found it pathetic either. :-P Just another genre IMHO.. Does anyone have the "Smile" album? Gahh! I love it so much, it's just amazing. The only thing that can beat listening to it on CD, is listening to it live! My old man took me last summer to see Brian and his 18 member group. Just... breathtaking. :)

SK wrote:

freddieistheloveofmylife_89 wrote: I don't really see it as pathetic. How could it be? Given their huge poplarity in the 60's, I don't think most other people found it pathetic either. :-P Just another genre IMHO.. Does anyone have the "Smile" album? Gahh! I love it so much, it's just amazing. The only thing that can beat listening to it on CD, is listening to it live! My old man took me last summer to see Brian and his 18 member group. Just... breathtaking. :)

Haha, their you go again, making me want to pick up and listen to Smile! Tell me though, does it contain the original versions of "Heroes And Villians" and "Good Vibration" from 66/67? Or is it all remade(I know it was original slated for a 1967 release. Anyways, you really make "Smile" sound amazing, I'm definately gonna go out and buy it no doubt! Cheers!

Mr.Jingles wrote: Good for the Beach Boys to record 'Pet Sounds'. Making songs about surfing and California is quite pathetic.

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: Good for the Beach Boys to record 'Pet Sounds'. Making songs about surfing and California is quite pathetic.

We knew your musical taste was mediocre at best, but your musical tolerance goes out the window here. And I thought Ì was an elitist there!

bohemian_queer wrote:

SK wrote:

freddieistheloveofmylife_89 wrote: I don't really see it as pathetic. How could it be? Given their huge poplarity in the 60's, I don't think most other people found it pathetic either. :-P Just another genre IMHO.. Does anyone have the "Smile" album? Gahh! I love it so much, it's just amazing. The only thing that can beat listening to it on CD, is listening to it live! My old man took me last summer to see Brian and his 18 member group. Just... breathtaking. :)

Haha, their you go again, making me want to pick up and listen to Smile! Tell me though, does it contain the original versions of "Heroes And Villians" and "Good Vibration" from 66/67? Or is it all remade(I know it was original slated for a 1967 release. Anyways, you really make "Smile" sound amazing, I'm definately gonna go out and buy it no doubt! Cheers!

It does not have the originals. But I kind of like Brian's H&V better than the original. And GV is way better on Smile, than it is on it's original CD. You will LOVE "Smile". :) Cheers!

SK wrote:

bohemian_queer wrote:

SK wrote:

freddieistheloveofmylife_89 wrote: I don't really see it as pathetic. How could it be? Given their huge poplarity in the 60's, I don't think most other people found it pathetic either. :-P Just another genre IMHO.. Does anyone have the "Smile" album? Gahh! I love it so much, it's just amazing. The only thing that can beat listening to it on CD, is listening to it live! My old man took me last summer to see Brian and his 18 member group. Just... breathtaking. :)

Haha, their you go again, making me want to pick up and listen to Smile! Tell me though, does it contain the original versions of "Heroes And Villians" and "Good Vibration" from 66/67? Or is it all remade(I know it was original slated for a 1967 release. Anyways, you really make "Smile" sound amazing, I'm definately gonna go out and buy it no doubt! Cheers!

It does not have the originals. But I kind of like Brian's H&V better than the original. And GV is way better on Smile, than it is on it's original CD. You will LOVE "Smile". :) Cheers!

Hey, just wanted to let you know that I got "SMiLE" and enjoyed it very much! It truly is the "Teenage Symphony To God". It's the exact opposite of "Pet Sounds"(A celebration of life and joys oppose to the heartaching and depressions of life). Thanks for informing me about this gem :D! Get "Pet Sounds" and "SMiLE" folks! You wont regret it!

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: Good for the Beach Boys to record 'Pet Sounds'. Making songs about surfing and California is quite pathetic.

We knew your musical taste was mediocre at best, but your musical tolerance goes out the window here. And I thought Ì was an elitist there!

Mr.Jingles wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: Good for the Beach Boys to record 'Pet Sounds'. Making songs about surfing and California is quite pathetic.

We knew your musical taste was mediocre at best, but your musical tolerance goes out the window here. And I thought Ì was an elitist there!

C'mon just admit it... The Beach Boys before 'Pet Sounds' was as disposable as the average boy band. Good thing that for once that with 'Pet Sounds' they said... Let's cut the crap, and make a REAL album for once.

Mr.Jingles wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: Good for the Beach Boys to record 'Pet Sounds'. Making songs about surfing and California is quite pathetic.

We knew your musical taste was mediocre at best, but your musical tolerance goes out the window here. And I thought Ì was an elitist there!

C'mon just admit it... The Beach Boys before 'Pet Sounds' was as disposable as the average boy band. Good thing that for once that with 'Pet Sounds' they said... Let's cut the crap, and make a REAL album for once.

bohemian_queer wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: Good for the Beach Boys to record 'Pet Sounds'. Making songs about surfing and California is quite pathetic.

We knew your musical taste was mediocre at best, but your musical tolerance goes out the window here. And I thought Ì was an elitist there!

C'mon just admit it... The Beach Boys before 'Pet Sounds' was as disposable as the average boy band. Good thing that for once that with 'Pet Sounds' they said... Let's cut the crap, and make a REAL album for once.

Oh I'll definitely admit they were disposable pop.. wait a minute.. disposable pop.. isn't that what Freddie called Queen's music? Ha. The Beach Boys' music captured a time and a place like no other band has. That's why they're remembered. And Pet Sounds wasn't exactly a team effort. Brian was on some heavy drugs then, and the rest of them didn't like the music he was writing at the time. They did that record for him, but only grudgingly.. They just didn't understand his genius...

billycat wrote: Pet Sounds is one of my favorite albums ever and God Only Knows is by far one of the best songs I've ever heard. I would disagree though that pre-Pet Sounds Beach Boys should be considered as nothing but disposable-pop. With songs like Warmth of the Sun and In My Room already in their catalog the genius of Brian Wilson had already been unveiled. Pet Sounds if anything was the first (and maybe the only) full BBs recording that had such fine attention paid to every song instead of just having a few great songs mixed with a certain amount of filler. Personally I would even say songs like Calfornia Girls and Fun Fun Fun while being easily considered as disposable pop are still quite slick and extremely well crafted in their ways of representing such an uplifting and outgoing spirit and set of ideals. What really gets me though is how happy, encouraging and harmonious the early BBs music can be and then discovering just how sad, desperate and tormented the Wilsons lives actually were....particularly Brian. To me what seems like one of the more significant changes with the Pet Sounds era was how the music had started to embrace some of the more darker aspects of life as they (or at least Brian) knew it.