| thomasquinn 32989 31.07.2006 08:55 |
We are all sick and tired of those lowlifes trying to make a profit out of free material. Here is a set of easy instructions on how to report the sale of bootlegs on eBay. I encourage you to make use of it! Go to link and select "Report Another Problem" Select "Report a listing policy violation..." Select "Items that may violate copyright..." Select "Report unauthorized copies of CDs..." Click "Continue" Select "Email" Enter the item numbers and click "Submit" |
| Smitty 31.07.2006 11:33 |
Now all we have to do is find a way to report queencollector.com. |
| thomasquinn 32989 31.07.2006 11:39 |
<font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote: Now all we have to do is find a way to report queencollector.com.Agreed. If anyone'd only have Trancer's address and real name, it'd be easy. |
| Mr. Scully 31.07.2006 12:26 |
Offtopic: I will try to use this tool to report fake Queen autographs on ebay. I'm curious if it works or not... |
| freddie lives 28817 31.07.2006 13:04 |
Oh leave the ebay sellers alone. It IS frustrating when you put in a lot of hard work creating a DVD that someone subsequently gets hold of and then sells on ebay - but I've outgrown that now. I've made a few of those DVDs that are now sold on ebay by other people (that most of you probably have as well by now) and I'm past caring. Personally, I myself have obtained a number of bootlegs from ebay over the years that I'd never seen elsewhere. Ebay is probably a source of a number of Queen and Paul Rodgers bootlegs that have since appeared on QZ - so there's a bit of give and take there! Take Houston 77 for instance - did anyone report the person who sold a few copies on there? No - because no one had it at the time, but we've all since benefitted from that sale!! You can't always have your cake and eat it. One other thing to bear in mind, is that anyone who actually buys "common" stuff off ebay, probably isn't aware of QZ or the fact that they can be downloaded from any number of sites on the web. It is also entirely possible that given the choice of spending a few pounds or spending days downloading something - some people would rather have the means of least hassle - ie, buying it! Rant over. |
| PieterMC 31.07.2006 13:07 |
Mr. Scully wrote: Offtopic: I will try to use this tool to report fake Queen autographs on ebay. I'm curious if it works or not...I am willing to bet that you will have virtually no chance of ebay doing anything. I have reported items in the past and they never do anything. |
| freddie lives 28817 31.07.2006 14:01 |
Oh I don't know. I've known fake autographs being removed before now. They ARE worth reporting! |
| pow wow 31.07.2006 17:15 |
If traders shared their wares rather than kept it for the few then maybe there would be less bootlegging on ebay. And what about the people out there with slow connection's, are they meant to wait 2 weeks for a download?!?!? I don't think so. It's a simple choice, if you disagree with the selling of bootlegs don't buy them, for everyone else it's another avenue of collecting so leave alone. At least the sellers are making items available to ALL, leaving the CHOICE to buy with the consumer's conscience. I for one won't be reporting any of them and no I'm not a seller either. |
| Penetration_Guru 31.07.2006 18:06 |
I went through a period (about 6 months) of selling DVDs on ebay. A couple were Queen, most were not, although that's not relevant. I ALWAYS undercut the other sellers of the same material, so the "unsuspecting" public, who could have downloaded the material from easytree (although only if they had broadband and a DVD writer and some patience) but didn't got to buy the material cheaper as a result of me being there, and hundreds of them were very happy with the arrangement. I generally made about £3 per disc, but had to spend my evenings copying discs, writing packaging, leaving feedback, answering questions, looking for new material, and my lunchtimes at the post office and the bank. So while it was useful money (I had had to take a lower paid job due to redundancy and this helped with the mortgage), it took up a lot of my time to do it. This is not to excuse the more obvious profiteers on ebay, just to put forward the background that applied to me. |
| the rover 31.07.2006 20:14 |
THOMASQUEEN, I know you're sick about this guys tryin' to make money, but I'm sick of you assholes cryin' about everything someone does. What if he wants to make some money???, no-one forces anyone to go and buy this kind of stuff. So ...try to post some interesting topics nex time airight? bye |
| Deacon Fan 31.07.2006 20:27 |
I'd say buyer beware. While I'm sure there are some who don't realize they can get the stuff for free, there are probably others who either can't download huge files or enjoy having something ready-made and sometimes nicely packaged for them. No-one is forcing anyone to buy stuff :) There's also the official material.. stuff like Magic Years which will probably never be on DVD.. and I think it's rather nice that you can spend $20 and get a good quality ready-made 3-DVD set with labels and all... sure it's illegal for them to do it.. but they're providing a service to fans. I love my Magic Years DVDs :) But go on and make your reports if it makes you feel better... it'll never be stopped though ;) |
| Mr. Scully 01.08.2006 04:53 |
I'm not happy to see bootleggers on ebay, on the other hand I don't care that much - after all, if there's demand for bootlegs, why not sell them? I can imagine people with slow connections - if I didn't have my collection, I would certainly rather buy from ebay than spend week downloading from QZ. But think about this: Bootleg = 10 minutes of copying, $20 Fake autographs: 20 seconds of writing, $300. There are dealers of fake autographs on ebay that have sold 5000+ fake autographs in the past three years, each for $100-$500. Do the math... |
| pow wow 01.08.2006 05:07 |
Absolutley agree. Fake autographs are a nasty problem and I commend your attempts to try and do something about it. |
| MOANZONE TWAT 01.08.2006 05:29 |
the rover wrote: THOMASQUEEN, I know you're sick about this guys tryin' to make money, but I'm sick of you assholes cryin' about everything someone does. What if he wants to make some money???, no-one forces anyone to go and buy this kind of stuff. So ...try to post some interesting topics nex time airight? byeI don't think i have seen you post anything of Respect or intelligence toward ANYONE here. What is your problem anyways? You always call ppl names just because you don't agree with them, dude, chill out? About selling ILLEGAL products, Queen, or anything, all i can say is "Get a JOB!" It is sad that someone has to make money from someone elses hard work. |
| thomasquinn 32989 01.08.2006 06:53 |
the rover wrote: THOMASQUEEN, I know you're sick about this guys tryin' to make money, but I'm sick of you assholes cryin' about everything someone does. What if he wants to make some money???, no-one forces anyone to go and buy this kind of stuff. So ...try to post some interesting topics nex time airight? byeNo-one forces people to buy stolen items, hard drugs, black-market weapons. However, you still oppose theft, drug-dealing and weapon's dealing, I take it? "What if he wants to make some money???" Well, first off, it's illegal; moreover: it's making money from work someone else did. Finally: it's unethical to make a profit out of something which people could get for free. So, in conclusion, I think it's safe to say that you are a completely useless, sad individual. Judging by your (albeit completely unconvincing) ferocity, I wouldn't be suprised if you are yourself one of those eBay sellers. If so, I'll tell you this: the day you get arrested will be a great day for mankind. |
| Nuno 01.08.2006 07:10 |
The biggest problem with eBay is eBay themselves don't give as rats ass about what is being sold on there site Even though there TOC don't allow it - they doin't care as they are making a hell of a lot of money off this kind of material (obviously not just Queen) and software, bootlegs, fake autographs, listings for free mobile phones, ipods, xboxs, playstations, psp You name it - a propgram on BBC a year or so ago thought that eBay's listings about 75% was going against there terms in one way or another - it comes to the fact eBay don't care - they will reomve item now and again but very very farely |
| Penetration_Guru 01.08.2006 13:31 |
Thomas, I understand your perspective, but it could be said that it's not the same as what could be downloaded. The artwork could be laser printed, whereas the "customer" doesn't have access to anything better than an inkjet, there is a physical product on a disc that the "customer" may not be able to generate themselves. I wouldn't suggest all should be allowed, but I think that there are bigger problems on ebay, specifically guns, pyramid selling, pirated material (as opposed to bootlegs), etc etc. |
| andy1962 01.08.2006 14:15 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:life is free but there is always some wanker trying to have us over:- goverments,water companies,etc etc so fare play to anybody who makes a bit of money ido now and again thats how i survive life.i think you should get one yourself instead of moaning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!the rover wrote: THOMASQUEEN, I know you're sick about this guys tryin' to make money, but I'm sick of you assholes cryin' about everything someone does. What if he wants to make some money???, no-one forces anyone to go and buy this kind of stuff. So ...try to post some interesting topics nex time airight? byeNo-one forces people to buy stolen items, hard drugs, black-market weapons. However, you still oppose theft, drug-dealing and weapon's dealing, I take it? "What if he wants to make some money???" Well, first off, it's illegal; moreover: it's making money from work someone else did. Finally: it's unethical to make a profit out of something which people could get for free. So, in conclusion, I think it's safe to say that you are a completely useless, sad individual. Judging by your (albeit completely unconvincing) ferocity, I wouldn't be suprised if you are yourself one of those eBay sellers. If so, I'll tell you this: the day you get arrested will be a great day for mankind. |
| the rover 01.08.2006 19:04 |
You've said it all, ANDY. And thAt's what these cryin' babies don't understand (THOMASQUINN-YSM). I don't get why they make listenin' to music such a huge problem, every single time something is not good ("or legal") to them. |
| Nuno 02.08.2006 07:37 |
The whole legal illegal point is such a mine field What we do on here is actually illegal It's just a moral thing about buying selling bootlegs, I have bootlgs lotsin the past (not only Queen) and if I hadn't have bought them I would never have them Better t have something for a few £ than never have anything if someone doesn't want to buy bootlegs then don't - it the constant complaining that get's people pissed off on here !!!!! |
| Rick 02.08.2006 10:03 |
the rover wrote: You've said it all, ANDY. And thAt's what these cryin' babies don't understand (THOMASQUINN-YSM). I don't get why they make listenin' to music such a huge problem, every single time something is not good ("or legal") to them.I saw some posts of you and let me tell you: my doorbell says more things of intelligence then you will ever do. |
| YourValentine 02.08.2006 10:34 |
"If traders shared their wares rather than kept it for the few then maybe there would be less bootlegging on ebay. And what about the people out there with slow connection's, are they meant to wait 2 weeks for a download?!?!? I don't think so. It's a simple choice, if you disagree with the selling of bootlegs don't buy them, for everyone else it's another avenue of collecting so leave alone. At least the sellers are making items available to ALL, leaving the CHOICE to buy with the consumer's conscience." I think you missed the point - there are ebay sellers who sell what they get for free on QZ, Dimeadozen or the hub. It makes people think if they keep wanting to share free material on the internet. However, "freddie lives" said it all, I totally agree. When we give something for free we must keep in mind that there is a certain likelihood that the DVD will pop up on ebay. On the other hand ebay material has been shared here for free, so there is some sort of balance. |
| the rover 02.08.2006 22:20 |
RICK ??? Caught you cryin' again... I must admit your delicate little posts make me laugh... |
| Deacon Fan 03.08.2006 00:47 |
I don't understand the problem with people having shared stuff free, and then seeing it being sold.. I mean.. what is it? Jealousy? Wishing they were making the money because of their efforts? It's understandable but I think people need to get over it. Let it go.. if you've made fans happy by sharing, there's your reward. What they do with it beyond that shouldn't bother you. Annoying yes, but no reason to stop sharing or get all angry about it. A gift is a gift.. once it's given away it's gone and the receiver does what he/she wants with it. Technically as the giver you aren't losing anything when thousands have already received the gift for free.. don't let a few schemers spoil the fun, just let it go.. it can't be stopped. In fact, a great deal of what is shared here comes from previously SOLD bootlegs anyway. Even factory pressed. Some shows with names so recognizable that people only know them by that name. So there's money being made to begin with in many cases. A few wayward fans might as well re-sell the stuff and make money too eh? But I know this is another of those no-win arguments. Someone who shares their own private recording to be kind and then sees it being sold is going to feel shitty about it, I understand that. I guess my point, if I have one is that it's a risk you take.. and it won't ever be stopped really, so I'd rather see people just sigh and get over it rather than letting it upset them so much. You might even look at it another way.. see your stuff being sold, then spread it as much as you can for free and maybe you'll feel you're cutting into the seller's profits.. how about that? :) |
| andy1962 03.08.2006 02:25 |
i have been collecting queen items for many years and i have a couple of things in my collection that will not see the light of day for many years as they are my pension so they are staying where they are.when you see unseen recordings of the beatles fetch thousands of pounds or jimi hendrix stuff.then i do think that if this stuff i have was on here somebody would make a lot of cash so certain items of mine WILL NEVER BE HERE FOR FREE watch outin years to come at christies or bonhams or some other auction house and see how much i make!!!! money money money |
| pow wow 03.08.2006 04:48 |
Purely out of interest, what is it that you have? Cheers |
| thomasquinn 32989 03.08.2006 06:13 |
andy1962 wrote:I can have a life without resorting to stealing what other people have put time and effort into making available FOR FREE with the intention of it being PASSED ON FOR FREE.<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:life is free but there is always some wanker trying to have us over:- goverments,water companies,etc etc so fare play to anybody who makes a bit of money ido now and again thats how i survive life.i think you should get one yourself instead of moaning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!the rover wrote: THOMASQUEEN, I know you're sick about this guys tryin' to make money, but I'm sick of you assholes cryin' about everything someone does. What if he wants to make some money???, no-one forces anyone to go and buy this kind of stuff. So ...try to post some interesting topics nex time airight? byeNo-one forces people to buy stolen items, hard drugs, black-market weapons. However, you still oppose theft, drug-dealing and weapon's dealing, I take it? "What if he wants to make some money???" Well, first off, it's illegal; moreover: it's making money from work someone else did. Finally: it's unethical to make a profit out of something which people could get for free. So, in conclusion, I think it's safe to say that you are a completely useless, sad individual. Judging by your (albeit completely unconvincing) ferocity, I wouldn't be suprised if you are yourself one of those eBay sellers. If so, I'll tell you this: the day you get arrested will be a great day for mankind. |
| pow wow 03.08.2006 07:45 |
The biggest rip-off merchants around here are QP! The same old re-packaged and re-hashed stuff coming out time and time again, new freddie CD for example. At least when I buy a bootleg I know I havent heard it before AND I can come up with better artwork than they can - ROTC & LOLSOS! |
| thomasquinn 32989 03.08.2006 09:09 |
pow wow wrote: The biggest rip-off merchants around here are QP! The same old re-packaged and re-hashed stuff coming out time and time again, new freddie CD for example. At least when I buy a bootleg I know I havent heard it before AND I can come up with better artwork than they can - ROTC & LOLSOS!Yes, but we can't do anything about that. We CAN, however, fight the eBay rip-offs, so that's what we SHOULD do. |
| Nuno 03.08.2006 10:48 |
Yes but it won't do any good to fight the eBay rip off's Cos eBay do feck all themselves to stop it Small thing to get so worked up about if ya ask me and by the sounds of most people on here - unless nothing else to wory about, life, friends, family, kids, etc, etc |
| MOANZONE TWAT 03.08.2006 17:57 |
the rover wrote: RICK ??? Caught you cryin' again... I must admit your delicate little posts make me laugh...Yeah but you will be crying when you get a letter from your authorities rover! I have your ebay ID and your Address there in Santiago. Why do you sell Queen and other band boots on ebay?? |
| Indo77 04.08.2006 09:15 |
Nowt wrong with buying stuff of ebay especially if it is full versions of live material and you don't have to wait days for a seeder to appear online to download the material you want. I don't know about anyone else but my laptop would explode if I left it online for 24/7. After a week you are still left with 7% completed. |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.08.2006 10:22 |
Indo77 wrote: Nowt wrong with buying stuff of ebay especially if it is full versions of live material and you don't have to wait days for a seeder to appear online to download the material you want. I don't know about anyone else but my laptop would explode if I left it online for 24/7. After a week you are still left with 7% completed.Then TRADE. That works too. There is NO EXCUSE for rip-off cons trying to make a fortune on other people's hard work. |
| Nuno 04.08.2006 12:35 |
Easy to say I agree with both the last comments - it can take along time ot download things As for trading - utter rubbish - I have a huge colllection - but nothing rare/compared to i'm surelots have - so if I want to trade it is very difficult - Buying/selling on eBay - we have our own thoughts and I have already said mine |
| MOANZONE TWAT 04.08.2006 19:08 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:I actually agree with quinn here, if it is posted for free, DL it! everyone who buys this shit on ebay and/or comes up with excuses on why they wont trade because they don't have anything rare enough are lazy.andy1962 wrote:I can have a life without resorting to stealing what other people have put time and effort into making available FOR FREE with the intention of it being PASSED ON FOR FREE.<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:life is free but there is always some wanker trying to have us over:- goverments,water companies,etc etc so fare play to anybody who makes a bit of money ido now and again thats how i survive life.i think you should get one yourself instead of moaning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!the rover wrote: THOMASQUEEN, I know you're sick about this guys tryin' to make money, but I'm sick of you assholes cryin' about everything someone does. What if he wants to make some money???, no-one forces anyone to go and buy this kind of stuff. So ...try to post some interesting topics nex time airight? byeNo-one forces people to buy stolen items, hard drugs, black-market weapons. However, you still oppose theft, drug-dealing and weapon's dealing, I take it? "What if he wants to make some money???" Well, first off, it's illegal; moreover: it's making money from work someone else did. Finally: it's unethical to make a profit out of something which people could get for free. So, in conclusion, I think it's safe to say that you are a completely useless, sad individual. Judging by your (albeit completely unconvincing) ferocity, I wouldn't be suprised if you are yourself one of those eBay sellers. If so, I'll tell you this: the day you get arrested will be a great day for mankind. |
| Indo77 04.08.2006 19:25 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:Trading is only useful if you have a real gem in your midst but the reality is that few people will want to waste time trying to beg someone for a copy of something that they can obtain with the "Buy It Now" option. It is the buyers choice whether they want to go with the seller depending on the seller's feedback. If they get stung, they get stung. I for many years collected rare alternate cuts of films and was once an avid campaigner for trading however I now believe that my attitude back then was flawed. I would whine as soon as someone I traded with flogged the material on ebay. The reality was it was never my material to begin with, I just happened to have first generation copies. The material belonged to the copyright holders. If you really want to look at someone to blame, I would take your case to QP who have refused to release any 1970s Queen material. Result: Lower NTSC 10th generation copies appear on ebay.Indo77 wrote: Nowt wrong with buying stuff of ebay especially if it is full versions of live material and you don't have to wait days for a seeder to appear online to download the material you want. I don't know about anyone else but my laptop would explode if I left it online for 24/7. After a week you are still left with 7% completed.Then TRADE. That works too. There is NO EXCUSE for rip-off cons trying to make a fortune on other people's hard work. |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.08.2006 19:29 |
Indo77 wrote:Two wrongs don't make a right. Someone who offers rare material just to make a profit is not a hero, but still a leech.<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:Trading is only useful if you have a real gem in your midst but the reality is that few people will want to waste time trying to beg someone for a copy of something that they can obtain with the "Buy It Now" option. It is the buyers choice whether they want to go with the seller depending on the seller's feedback. If they get stung, they get stung. I for many years collected rare alternate cuts of films and was once an avid campaigner for trading however I now believe that my attitude back then was flawed. I would whine as soon as someone I traded with flogged the material on ebay. The reality was it was never my material to begin with, I just happened to have first generation copies. The material belonged to the copyright holders. If you really want to look at someone to blame, I would take your case to QP who have refused to release any 1970s Queen material. Result: Lower NTSC 10th generation copies appear on ebay.Indo77 wrote: Nowt wrong with buying stuff of ebay especially if it is full versions of live material and you don't have to wait days for a seeder to appear online to download the material you want. I don't know about anyone else but my laptop would explode if I left it online for 24/7. After a week you are still left with 7% completed.Then TRADE. That works too. There is NO EXCUSE for rip-off cons trying to make a fortune on other people's hard work. |
| Indo77 05.08.2006 05:03 |
Two wrongs don't make a right. Someone who offers rare material just to make a profit is not a hero, but still a leechTo a degree but there are many people on ebay who offer these concerts for £5 and have went to the bother of creating cool menus and chapters. I bought Rainbow 74'/Hammersmith 75' concerts on ebay for a fiver (both together) and the quality was excellent. I got it two days after ordering it. What is the alternative? Sit for weeks with a 24/7 Internet connection in the hope a seeder appears to download the file. I have found also that many traders are tight when it comes to releasing the material. Rapidshare has provided somewhat a solution to the problems connected with bitTorrent but remember not everyone will have Nero or good DVD re-writing software. I know my PC is crap. |
| Indo77 05.08.2006 05:10 |
And Mr Quinn just to make a point on the trader's side, in 2002 I had in my possession an item that was worth thousands. There was only probably 8 copies of this in the world at that time. It was a master copy of an unseen production. Today there are thousands of them and the value is now a fiver. So yes I do know what it is like to be duped. |
| the rover 05.08.2006 12:27 |
YoungStratMan wrote:WOOOOW...the rover wrote: RICK ??? Caught you cryin' again... I must admit your delicate little posts make me laugh...Yeah but you will be crying when you get a letter from your authorities rover! I have your ebay ID and your Address there in Santiago. Why do you sell Queen and other band boots on ebay?? You were right StrASStman... I've got a letter from the Cryin' Girls sayin' "please, stop makin' fun of us..." (signed "YSM") ??? |
| MOANZONE TWAT 06.08.2006 02:52 |
the rover wrote:You are retarded! That made no sense whatsoever. And what ever supposed letter you got like that didn't come from me! I would have signed it with my real name. I know you are a fucking ebay seller and you have sold Queen dvdr's on ebay, i already have your info and forwarded to the FBI and Ebay. Your day is coming.YoungStratMan wrote:WOOOOW... You were right StrASStman... I've got a letter from the Cryin' Girls sayin' "please, stop makin' fun of us..." (signed "YSM") ???the rover wrote: RICK ??? Caught you cryin' again... I must admit your delicate little posts make me laugh...Yeah but you will be crying when you get a letter from your authorities rover! I have your ebay ID and your Address there in Santiago. Why do you sell Queen and other band boots on ebay?? |
| the rover 06.08.2006 12:33 |
OOH¡¡¡ So you're really crazy...mmmm ajajajjaaja ....keep posting, man. Eventhough you're FUCKED UP, laghs are priceless..............................(asshole...) |
| MOANZONE TWAT 06.08.2006 20:41 |
the rover wrote: OOH¡¡¡ So you're really crazy...mmmm ajajajjaaja ....keep posting, man. Eventhough you're FUCKED UP, laghs are priceless..............................(asshole...)sure. Your ignorance and lack of intelligence is priceless! Take this not, LAUGHS is how you spell it! You are just pissed because you know i am 100% right about you. Nive try, even though i am fucked up. I don't have to sell ppl's hard earned material to make money. Hey rover, i hear McDonald's is hiring, but you will have to pass the 3rd grade equivilincy test, which obviously you can't pass by you lack of vocabulary here. |
| the rover 07.08.2006 20:22 |
..." NIVE try " ????¡¡¡ jajajajaj What an ASSHOLE¡¡¡ Two things: IF I WERE one of those Ebay assholes (by the way, I hadn't heard of them until I read this topic) I WOULDN'T GIVE A FUCK wether you knew it or not. And IF YOU WERE " 100% right about me" you wouldn't throwing shit just like that. So ...crazy OLD MAN. Get a fuckin' life... yOU'RE too Old (and certainly fucked up) for this... See you in "sANTIAGO" (yeah right, dumbass...) |
| frank39 08.08.2006 03:24 |
If I wouldn´t have bought Houston 1977 DVD (silverpressed jap. Version) on ebay, maybe most of the people here wouldn´t have the complete Houston DVD (incl. artwork) until now! I payed 70 Euro for it, and shared it here on QZ via rapidshare. You can see ebay from 2 sides, its a kind of Janus head. |
| MOANZONE TWAT 08.08.2006 03:41 |
the rover wrote: ..." NIVE try " ????¡¡¡ jajajajaj What an ASSHOLE¡¡¡ Two things: IF I WERE one of those Ebay assholes (by the way, I hadn't heard of them until I read this topic) I WOULDN'T GIVE A FUCK wether you knew it or not. And IF YOU WERE " 100% right about me" you wouldn't throwing shit just like that. So ...crazy OLD MAN. Get a fuckin' life... yOU'RE too Old (and certainly fucked up) for this... See you in "sANTIAGO" (yeah right, dumbass...)LMAO Have a nice day! :) |
| Bobby_brown 08.08.2006 09:53 |
frank39 wrote: If I wouldn´t have bought Houston 1977 DVD (silverpressed jap. Version) on ebay, maybe most of the people here wouldn´t have the complete Houston DVD (incl. artwork) until now! I payed 70 Euro for it, and shared it here on QZ via rapidshare. You can see ebay from 2 sides, its a kind of Janus head.I totally agree with you. Personaly, i don´t have anything against people wanting to make some extra money. If it was shared for free and then sold it on E-bay, who cares? Sometimes things on E-bay are shared here for free, making them loose money. These days you have to look for what´s best for you. Internet is really such a great tool, so, if you want to be fooled, it´s up to you. Search, search, search!!! If they have something that i want, then i´ll buy it! I don´t care if they got it for free in the first place. I´m not against people making money. One of the things that´s keeping economy stucked is the fact that people worry too much about other peoples earnings, and not too much about their own! there are some negotiations that failed because one of the parties thought that the other part was earning much more than what they deserve, instead of looking about what he was going to earn. Got the ideia? If the uploader is too much concerned about what can happened to the concert after it´s shared for free, then my advice here is, don´t upload! In fact, in Queenzone it´s a shame what is happening with torrents. There are too many leeches, hit and runners. Torrents die too quickly, and if it wasn´t for the good will of a few, who have the patience to upload the DVD´s to rapidshare, we would end up sucking on our fingers! Take care |
| willem-jan 8923 09.08.2006 02:53 |
frank39 wrote: If I wouldn´t have bought Houston 1977 DVD (silverpressed jap. Version) on ebay, maybe most of the people here wouldn´t have the complete Houston DVD (incl. artwork) until now! I payed 70 Euro for it, and shared it here on QZ via rapidshare. You can see ebay from 2 sides, its a kind of Janus head.There is a difference. I suppose that the one you bought at ebay was an originally pressed bootleg, instead of a home-burned one. A difference should be made between originals and downloaded + burned copies. I'm okay with the first, but I think the home-made stuff should stop. |
| newc1531 15.08.2006 03:45 |
I read the petty comments on regarding people selling bootlegs on ebay. I think for a start selling them on ebay is just as illegal as downlaoding them via torrent software. What is annoying is that having bought items off Trancer I can no longer sell them on ebay to make my money back for more material! Anyway, I think I have Trancer's name and address-someone said that nailing him would be easy.If he would lower hi prices... :) |
| pcgenius9 15.08.2006 03:51 |
If people are stupid enough to spend money for bootlegs on ebay that can be downloaded for free then let them. |