QueenZone discussion #616642

Janet wrote: God, he was sexy.... ;-)

Janet wrote: God, he was sexy.... ;-)

dragonzflame wrote: I have never heard of this magical being.

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: He was old, and he was a manipulative bastard who was the ruin of an already damaged justice system. Dying at 80 is not bad, very many better people died much younger.

Mr.Jingles wrote: Of course in some people's books there's no R.I.P for all the thousands of victims of Hurricaine Katrina. Just because someone's poor, young, black, or unknown doesn't mean they deserve to be treated less than some who is old, rich, white, and famous. After all, we all know that if New Orleans was predominantly white and wealthy Bush would have sent the National Guard even before the hurricaine started.

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: He was old, and he was a manipulative bastard who was the ruin of an already damaged justice system. Dying at 80 is not bad, very many better people died much younger.

He was NOT a "bastard", he was a very kind-hearted, good man. You should be ashamed of yourself for speaking ill of the dead.

Mr. Scully wrote: I also had absolutely no idea who he was but there was a short notice about him in our national newspaper a few days ago so I read it to educate myself... they didn't praise him, they wrote he was VERY conservative (for death sentence, against abortion etc.). So his death doesn't sound like a big loss for the world or even for the US justice.

Serry... wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: He was old, and he was a manipulative bastard who was the ruin of an already damaged justice system. Dying at 80 is not bad, very many better people died much younger.

He was NOT a "bastard", he was a very kind-hearted, good man. You should be ashamed of yourself for speaking ill of the dead.

He wasn't only one 'a very kind-hearted, good man' on the Earth! Why should we need to know if he's dead or alive?! Most of the QZers have not got any clue who he was! Should I post topics on QZ about our Russian 'a very kind-hearted, good' governors, members of Parliament, about lives of pets of our President?

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: Of course in some people's books there's no R.I.P for all the thousands of victims of Hurricaine Katrina. Just because someone's poor, young, black, or unknown doesn't mean they deserve to be treated less than some who is old, rich, white, and famous. After all, we all know that if New Orleans was predominantly white and wealthy Bush would have sent the National Guard even before the hurricaine started.

And you would have been bitching if he HAD sent in the National Guard. Bush is hardly sitting there going "well, are these white people or black people?" He is weighing out options and doing the best he can. Bush is hardly a classist racist, Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice both grew up in poor black areas, and in Secretary Rice's case a poor black SOUTHERN area (Alabama, which is VERY close to the hurricaine-hit area.)

Mr.Jingles wrote: ...I bet ya that he'd look smokin' hot wearing an S&M outfit.

Mr.Jingles wrote: Everytime some Republican politician dies, we have SaraJane

posting a thread. It doesn't take a wiseman to realize that fans of a rock band with a flamboyant singer don't give a flying fuck if some politician they've never heard of dies.

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Mr. Scully wrote: I also had absolutely no idea who he was but there was a short notice about him in our national newspaper a few days ago so I read it to educate myself... they didn't praise him, they wrote he was VERY conservative (for death sentence, against abortion etc.). So his death doesn't sound like a big loss for the world or even for the US justice.

Oh, so his death wasn't a big loss because he favors the rights of innocent babies over the rights of heartless killers? We need MORE people like him!

God, you're a retard. You think a young teenage girl who a) got raped b) had an accident (e.g. a condom tearing, it happens, you know. Well, then again, you wouldn't) should have the child anyway? Even if she's, say, 14?

And you think having a baby isn't the parents' choice? Are you by any chance also pro-death penalty in addition to your anti-abortion politics?

Inu-Liger<h6>-a.k.a. Richard Guilbault- wrote:

dragonzflame wrote: I have never heard of this magical being.

Ditto

Bob The Shrek wrote: 'I am extremely pro-death penalty. I believe that the penalty should be dealt out far more often than it has been. We need to "send them a message" to quote George Wallace (who I don't agree with but he WAS a victim of violent crime himself).' The trouble is, the message doesn't get through and proves the death penalty is not an effective deterrent.

Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.

Let's see... I'm a "redneck" because I feel bad that a member of the Supreme Court died? If it had been Ginsberg or another more liberal member of the court, I would feel bad as well. I certainly would not be calling them a "useless SOB" or anything demeaning of that nature. Also, FYI, "rednecks" are from the Southern USA, and I live in Philadelphia. And hypocrite is spelled with an e at the end.

Messenger Of Leah wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.

Let's see... I'm a "redneck" because I feel bad that a member of the Supreme Court died? If it had been Ginsberg or another more liberal member of the court, I would feel bad as well. I certainly would not be calling them a "useless SOB" or anything demeaning of that nature. Also, FYI, "rednecks" are from the Southern USA, and I live in Philadelphia. And hypocrite is spelled with an e at the end.

Just answer us wrench, Why don't you ever post something having to do with happiness and only people's deaths? I don't want to be talked about when I'm dead. Mention something else, like celebritys having children.

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Messenger Of Leah wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.

Let's see... I'm a "redneck" because I feel bad that a member of the Supreme Court died? If it had been Ginsberg or another more liberal member of the court, I would feel bad as well. I certainly would not be calling them a "useless SOB" or anything demeaning of that nature. Also, FYI, "rednecks" are from the Southern USA, and I live in Philadelphia. And hypocrite is spelled with an e at the end.

Just answer us wrench, Why don't you ever post something having to do with happiness and only people's deaths? I don't want to be talked about when I'm dead. Mention something else, like celebritys having children.

Hmm... Does anyone remember the uproar when I posted a certain man's birthday? Hmmm?

Rip Van Winkle wrote: Surprise? - a brainwashed far-left Democrat plays the race card.

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Bob The Shrek wrote: 'I am extremely pro-death penalty. I believe that the penalty should be dealt out far more often than it has been. We need to "send them a message" to quote George Wallace (who I don't agree with but he WAS a victim of violent crime himself).' The trouble is, the message doesn't get through and proves the death penalty is not an effective deterrent.

It's a deterrent to the people who get executed :)

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Yeah, I figured as much. In other words, you are a hypocrit with the emphatic powers of a doorknob, who doesn't have a clue what she is talking about, and should stick to being the most popular member of her local Redneck-Association in stead of posting RIP-messages for a useless SOB who should've died far earlier. Leave intelligent topics to people more intelligent than yourself, in other words: 98.4% of the world's population.

Let's see... I'm a "redneck" because I feel bad that a member of the Supreme Court died? If it had been Ginsberg or another more liberal member of the court, I would feel bad as well. I certainly would not be calling them a "useless SOB" or anything demeaning of that nature. Also, FYI, "rednecks" are from the Southern USA, and I live in Philadelphia. And hypocrite is spelled with an e at the end.

pma wrote: One thing always puzzles me about some right-wingers (this is slightly OT) and that is the fact that they claim they are "pro-life" but yet have no trouble being pro-war. A bit of a contradiction perhaps? A certain "pro-life" president has no trouble sending young men and women in "harm's way" (wmd anyone?) to have their lives possibly ended and the one thing that makes it all worth while is saying "Isn't the world a better place without Saddam?"

Mr. Scully wrote: "Right wing" is not necessarily equal to "conservative". I always vote only right wing parties. But still, most of my opinions are VERY different from opinions of the stupid guy who rules the most powerful country in the world. If I lived in the USA, I'm quite sure I wouldn't vote the republicans.

pma wrote: One thing always puzzles me about some right-wingers (this is slightly OT) and that is the fact that they claim they are "pro-life" but yet have no trouble being pro-war. A bit of a contradiction perhaps? A certain "pro-life" president has no trouble sending young men and women in "harm's way" (wmd anyone?) to have their lives possibly ended and the one thing that makes it all worth while is saying "Isn't the world a better place without Saddam?"

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

pma wrote: One thing always puzzles me about some right-wingers (this is slightly OT) and that is the fact that they claim they are "pro-life" but yet have no trouble being pro-war. A bit of a contradiction perhaps? A certain "pro-life" president has no trouble sending young men and women in "harm's way" (wmd anyone?) to have their lives possibly ended and the one thing that makes it all worth while is saying "Isn't the world a better place without Saddam?"

You're ignoring the fact that we're not having a war just to have a war. We are liberating the Iraqi people from Saddam.

You should move south then, you are not exactly the kind of person who would fit in such a progressive area as New England.

The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.

Do you know that after the Confederacy was defeated, people said the same thing? "The North does not need to be there to impose their way of life on the South..." As soon as the North left, the South basically went back to making African-Americans slaves again. Same deal here. We leave, the same shit will start occurring that was occurring before, just with a new Saddam.

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.

Do you know that after the Confederacy was defeated, people said the same thing? "The North does not need to be there to impose their way of life on the South..." As soon as the North left, the South basically went back to making African-Americans slaves again. Same deal here. We leave, the same shit will start occurring that was occurring before, just with a new Saddam.

Speculation, but a valid point. However, the fact that your only reference was to an event which happened 140 years ago would make one wonder how truly possible such a thing would be today. Can you cite a more recent example?

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.

Do you know that after the Confederacy was defeated, people said the same thing? "The North does not need to be there to impose their way of life on the South..." As soon as the North left, the South basically went back to making African-Americans slaves again. Same deal here. We leave, the same shit will start occurring that was occurring before, just with a new Saddam.

Speculation, but a valid point. However, the fact that your only reference was to an event which happened 140 years ago would make one wonder how truly possible such a thing would be today. Can you cite a more recent example?

World War II. People said Nazi Germany could never become a democracy. Look at it now. But the fact that it became a democracy was due in a large part to the Western influence in West Germany.

Mr.Jingles wrote: Solution: STOP STARTING DUMB WARS AROUND THE WORLD!! There's way too much tax payers money wasted on killing people. Money that could be spent on fighting poverty, disease, and given to those who need it.

Serry... wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

The Americans do not need to be there, to impose their way of life on the Iraqi people. I have read of many people telling their story from over there, saying it's worse now than it was before.

Do you know that after the Confederacy was defeated, people said the same thing? "The North does not need to be there to impose their way of life on the South..." As soon as the North left, the South basically went back to making African-Americans slaves again. Same deal here. We leave, the same shit will start occurring that was occurring before, just with a new Saddam.

Speculation, but a valid point. However, the fact that your only reference was to an event which happened 140 years ago would make one wonder how truly possible such a thing would be today. Can you cite a more recent example?

World War II. People said Nazi Germany could never become a democracy. Look at it now. But the fact that it became a democracy was due in a large part to the Western influence in West Germany.

Who said it? I mean this "People said Nazi Germany..." It was war against nazism, but not for democracy... War in Iraq is war for oil, not for democracy too. I hope it wouldn't shock you too much!

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: Solution: STOP STARTING DUMB WARS AROUND THE WORLD!! There's way too much tax payers money wasted on killing people. Money that could be spent on fighting poverty, disease, and given to those who need it.

And the Iraqis who were being slaughtered by Saddam didn't need it? link ^ those people certainly look like they could have used it to me.

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote: Can you please give concrete evidence to support this "war for oil" bit?

Mr.Jingles wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote: Solution: STOP STARTING DUMB WARS AROUND THE WORLD!! There's way too much tax payers money wasted on killing people. Money that could be spent on fighting poverty, disease, and given to those who need it.

And the Iraqis who were being slaughtered by Saddam didn't need it? link ^ those people certainly look like they could have used it to me.

Yeah, slaughtered back in the 80s and early 90s. Talk about a delayed reaction. It doesn't surprise me that Bush waited 5 days to send help to the victims of hurricaine Katrina.