Sir Archie Leach 29.08.2005 16:57 |
Will soon be hitting the £1 a litre barrier. Disgraceful. The sooner somebody invents a teleportation device the better. Or have the oil companies bought the technology and suppressed it just to annoy me? Time to buy a horse. |
Darling39 29.08.2005 17:17 |
Petrol, or gasoline as we call it in the states is going to an historic mark here as well. It's going to hit $3 a gallon, although when I did the conversion, I found I shouldn't be bitching about it. You guys pay the equivalent of $6.81. OUCH. Nevertheless, it's shitty business. |
flash00. 29.08.2005 19:46 |
you know it getting a joke here in the UK on fuel prices as other things. i believe the fuel in USA is really cheap is it not? |
dragonzflame 29.08.2005 22:22 |
It's a joke here too. My 1300cc car is costing about NZ$60 to fill, this time last year it was about $40. The government put a 5c tax on it for some roads a year or so ago, before prices started going crazy, and next year another 4c carbon tax is going on it. They're refusing to do anything about it. We'll see come the September 17 election... |
Haystacks Calhoun 29.08.2005 22:28 |
Unfortunately, we are feeling the effects of the failed energy policies of Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr, and Bill Clinton hitting the world square in the gonads.... The alternative sources, especially automotive wise, should have been heavily invested in 20-30 years ago, to that end, especially in the 90's, when the technology was readily available. It is convenient to blame the worlds current leaders for this, but the fault lies in the past. I guess that Clinton was too busy covering his ass, Reagan was too busy selling weapons, Bush Sr. was too busy saying "Not Gonna Do It", and Carter was just a fucking tool..... |
dragonzflame 30.08.2005 18:38 |
Isn't your fuel in the US the equivalent of about 89 NZ cents? I read an article the other day that it isn't taxed as much as anywhere else because the politicians know the people won't stand for it. All right for some. Our politicians know that we don't have any choice but to put up with it if we want to keep driving. |
Mrs.Taylor 30.08.2005 18:58 |
The prices here are horrific at the moment. I don't usually take much notice I need petrol to get around so regardless of how much it is, I have to have it. When I bought my 1300cc car in April 2004, it took £27.30 to fill her up. Gradually that cost has crept up and up and this last time, it cost me £30.00 :( It took £13.00 on Sunday to fill her up just from 3/4 of the tank which is even worse. I had an email at work recently suggesting we boycott such as BP and Esso (who are being taken over by BP anyway) as they're the ones keeping the price up - at present BP are at 93.9 a litre near where I live. But to catch the bus every day, only halfway to work (I walk the rest of the way) would cost me approx £60.00 a month whereas for the most part I'm in the car a total of 30 minutes there and back, and with all the other costs involved it's stupid leaving the car at home to use the bus, as much as I advocate the use of public transport. |
Winter Land Man 30.08.2005 19:50 |
Gas rising in my area today. My friend who is Jamaican and owns a gas station asked me to check another store's gas prices... $2.53 a gallon, it'll be up today since they both got gas today at the same place, and it's gonna be UP.. the Jamaican is rising his price (he's at $2.49) due to the fact he's two pennies below any profit. On average, a gas station makes a penny per gallon. If someone stole 20 bucks of gas, image how many gas tanks he'd have to fill to add the penny per gallon to reach 20 bucks? Thus is why it's very bad to steal gas! |
Winter Land Man 30.08.2005 19:52 |
Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Unfortunately, we are feeling the effects of the failed energy policies of Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr, and Bill Clinton hitting the world square in the gonads.... The alternative sources, especially automotive wise, should have been heavily invested in 20-30 years ago, to that end, especially in the 90's, when the technology was readily available. It is convenient to blame the worlds current leaders for this, but the fault lies in the past. I guess that Clinton was too busy covering his ass, Reagan was too busy selling weapons, Bush Sr. was too busy saying "Not Gonna Do It", and Carter was just a fucking tool.....Actually when Bill Clinton was president, the economy was great and so were the gas prices. I remember the winter in 2001/2002 I think it was, maybe 2000/01... the gas price was near $1 a gallon. That'll never happen again! |
Haystacks Calhoun 30.08.2005 22:26 |
Messenger Of Leah wrote:How much of that economic windfall of the mid to late 90's did Clinton invest in new refinerys? How much did he invest in new technology to eliminate our dependence of foreign oil?Haystacks Calhoun wrote: Unfortunately, we are feeling the effects of the failed energy policies of Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr, and Bill Clinton hitting the world square in the gonads.... The alternative sources, especially automotive wise, should have been heavily invested in 20-30 years ago, to that end, especially in the 90's, when the technology was readily available. It is convenient to blame the worlds current leaders for this, but the fault lies in the past. I guess that Clinton was too busy covering his ass, Reagan was too busy selling weapons, Bush Sr. was too busy saying "Not Gonna Do It", and Carter was just a fucking tool.....Actually when Bill Clinton was president, the economy was great and so were the gas prices. I remember the winter in 2001/2002 I think it was, maybe 2000/01... the gas price was near $1 a gallon. That'll never happen again! Maybe.....zero??? Same goes for his predecessors. It has been over 30 years since a new refinery has come online in the US. That, quite simply, is shameful. |
iGSM 30.08.2005 23:58 |
What is a gallon to a litre? We're paying $1.23 per litre over here. I'm intending to grow wings. Denny Laine will help me. |
The Mir@cle 31.08.2005 02:33 |
The patrol prices here in Holland are mad.... I pay 1,34 euro à litre fuel. That's 65,- euro to fill (40 litre). |
Mr Drowse 31.08.2005 04:36 |
This morning I managed to get gas for 1.32 Euro per litre. Which is very expensive but they said that the prices are still rising :( I guess I'll get a horse too ;) |
Bob The Shrek 31.08.2005 04:48 |
iGSM wrote: What is a gallon to a litre? We're paying $1.23 per litre over here. I'm intending to grow wings. Denny Laine will help me.Typical, losing the Ashes series and the brain goes numb...... There are 4.54 litres to a UK gallon (8 imperial pints). Current exchange rate, according to Yahoo, is £1 = $2.39AUS A litre of petrol in the UK is about $2.24AUS, therefore a gallon is $10.17AUS |
Erin 31.08.2005 20:29 |
I just waited in line to pay $2.99 a gallon...thanks to the Hurricane Katrina. Some stations are out of gas apparently, but I haven't seen this yet. |
doremi 31.08.2005 20:40 |
Here in Baltimore County, Maryland, USA, yesterday, the price of the Lowest grade, as well as mid grade and premium, officially cracked and went over $3.00 gallon even for crap gas like Hess. Last night the Exxon down the road charged for mid grade, $2.84. This morning, it had jumped to $3.15! |
Queenleaf 31.08.2005 20:42 |
I know of someone filling up their RV and it cost like, $165 or something! |
Sharron .G 31.08.2005 22:50 |
How many of you ACTUALLY believe there is a "gas shortage?" Not I. |
dragonzflame 01.09.2005 00:07 |
There's no SHORTAGE as such - we've only used about half of the world's fuel supply. It's just that the second half is much harder to get at. My boyfriend knows someone who makes his own diesel out of something or other (I lost track when it got technical) and it costs him about 30 cents a litre to make. Diesel here has just topped a dollar for the first time in NZ history. |
The Mir@cle 01.09.2005 09:11 |
Okay, let's do it. The Dutch petrol prices: The price here is 1,47 euro á litre... 1 (American) gallon is 3,8 litre. 1,47 * 3,8 = 5,59 euro á gallon. 1 euro = $1,22.. So one gallon regular costs here $6,81!!! So please don't complain ;) |
tia 01.09.2005 09:20 |
In Canada the highest it was yesterday in some places was $1.35 a litre. |
Serry... 01.09.2005 09:39 |
In Russia it's about 50 cents per liter... Thanks God we have loads of oil... |
Queenleaf 01.09.2005 09:54 |
<font color =#CC00FF>***Marial-B*** wrote: I saw the news today. In Atlanta, Georgia, The price is up to 5$ per galon :S...I read the news today oh, boy |
Lisser 01.09.2005 09:57 |
Ravenetta wrote: its $3.09 for regular now. $3.29 for superSame here Raven. |
PieterMC 01.09.2005 10:36 |
On the way back from Atlanta we stopped for some fast food. When we went in the gas across the road was $2.99 when we came out (5 mins later) it was $3.29. Apparently in Greenville, SC it is now above $4 a gallon. |
iGSM 01.09.2005 10:45 |
Bleedin' Russians! Share! heh. One of my friend's grandparents make their own fuel. We filled her car for 15 dollars once...and she had a quite a large Commodore. |
Serry... 01.09.2005 11:18 |
Send me the tank - I'll but some petrol for you... heh... Actually people here think that 50 cents is too much expensive for the petrol. |
iGSM 01.09.2005 11:45 |
Funny you should say that. My brother/mother/father/EVERYONE IN AUSTRALIA THAT WAS BORN PRIOR TO 1986 said that the public was outraged when petrol prices 'boomed' at 45 cents. Damn! I'm getting twice as much petrol! Nooo! Seems I caused this rise in price of petrol. Sorry. |
Mr. Scully 02.09.2005 04:21 |
Americans are always those who complain most... although they have the cheapest fuel in the world :) Almost. There are of course countries with cheaper fuel - for example South American countries (Venezuela - some 40 l for $1!!!), Ukraine, Russia and some more. I'm not sure how much the tax on fuel is here (Czech rep.), it probably doubles the original price. Still, we're at 1 euro per liter which is quite good compared to western Europe. The main problem is the huge usage of petrol in the USA - everybody has 1 or more (big and hungry) cars and uses it on daily basis. As long as it stays like this, the fuel prices will stay high (and the Americans stay fat). The wars in the Persian Gulf didn't help either... |
Penis - Vagina 02.09.2005 05:33 |
$3.19 here :( I just paid $15.01 for what I consider about $5 worth of gas. Thank goodness I hardly ever get out. This might get me through the whole month. With insane prices comes theft. Not just driving off without paying (which is actually virtually impossible here now, you have to register and get a card before you can pump first), people are going to be siphoning. And that's not exactly fair Mr. Scully. For a total of 4 people left in my family (in 3 different houses) we have 2 cars total. |
Daburcor? 02.09.2005 05:43 |
Jeffrey Todd wrote: And that's not exactly fair Mr. Scully. For a total of 4 people left in my family (in 3 different houses) we have 2 cars total.BUT... Are they fat? ;) |
Penis - Vagina 02.09.2005 05:55 |
2 of us are. LOL! |
The Mir@cle 02.09.2005 06:02 |
The Mir@cle wrote: Okay, let's do it. The Dutch petrol prices: The price here is 1,47 euro á litre... 1 (American) gallon is 3,8 litre. 1,47 * 3,8 = 5,59 euro á gallon. 1 euro = $1,22.. So one gallon regular costs here $6,81!!! So please don't complain ;)Another price raise here today!! The price is now 1,51 euro ($1,84) à litre :S |
Mr. Scully 02.09.2005 07:53 |
Jeffrey - don't take me seriously, I'm probably the one who should be quiet - we have 2 cars for 4 people too :-) But at least the cars are quite small, new and don't "eat" much ;-) |
Winter Land Man 02.09.2005 09:01 |
I drive a big honking Chevy pickup... 1986, redneck deluxe LOL! I can see the gas guage go down, literally. So, I haven't been anywhere except to the store lately. |
YourValentine 03.09.2005 04:59 |
It's time that Americans finally pay as much for fuel as citizens in other industrial countries. Maybe they put some pressure on their government to finally start some energy saving programmes. The world is waiting for the cooperation of the superpower when it comes to reducing oil consumption and CO2 emission. |
Penis - Vagina 03.09.2005 05:14 |
Okay, no argument with that Barb, but I think what is shocking Americans so much is the fast increase. We've been gradually inching up more and more, but at a pace that people could adjust to. This was a swift increase which occured within a few days, of the price almost doubling.. heck, more than doubling in some areas. If it can double that fast, it makes us worry that it can go completely out of control rather quickly and reach a point where people simply can't afford to drive. And it not only affects common citizens in their cars, but things like air travel, freight transport. Nearly everything here relies on oil. So while we perhaps should be paying an equal amount as everyone else in the world, a sudden change like this can ruin our whole economy. |
YourValentine 03.09.2005 05:35 |
It's exactly such a shock that will wake up people who were never ready to even rethink the incredible energy waste of their country. In Europe, people learnt their lesson from the oil crisis in the 70s when the economy dropped to an unprecedented low, unemployment became a reality and there was a restriction on private car use. Since then the nations have pleaded and begged the USA to sign international agreements that help reducing oil consumption and help save resources for the future of this planet - to no avail. The USA has continued to waste away the energy resources of this planet in the same old selfish way. Now, 5 days after some refineries broke down that provide for 15% of the nation's fuel, they already ask for the strategic oil reserves of the IEA. Instead of saving some fuel to outsit the crisis together, Americans run to the petrol stations and buy more than they need and help increasing the crisis with a fake demand that does not really exist. Please do not think that the world has no sympathy. All European nations support the USA in their demand for the oil reserves. It's obvious that such a sudden shortage needs some compensation. But in the long run there has to be a change in the attitude of the USA. It's the future of the whole planet at stake. |
Lisser 04.09.2005 13:47 |
I agree the USA should be paying as much as other countries but I also agree with Jeff about the dramatic increase all at once. It's ruining my budget. I've had to take away from other necessities in my budget to put more in my gas budget. This means less groceries at home, less entertainment activities for the kids that cost money, etc. I have a 4 cyl car, so I have no gas guzzler. However my parents own 4 cars between the two of them. My dad is in to collecting classic muscle cars, yes with huge engines. But, they have the money to fill up the tanks and buy what they want. They can afford many luxuries and they should be able to have those luxuries since they both work very hard, all their lives and continue to do so. You won't hear them complaining bc they know they have 4 cars to fill and they accept that responsibility. The USA shouldn't get special low prices but I do have to complain about the amount the price is being raised in such a short period of time. This time last year I was paying $1.20 per gallon, now I'm paying $3.20/gallon. We are all aware that prices of things go up, not down. I just wish that my purse could accommodate the increase. I like to be able to purchase something I want and with this gas increase, I have to be very careful. |
Bob The Shrek 04.09.2005 14:18 |
'The USA shouldn't get special low prices...' They don't. We in Europe pay more because our Governments have realised its an easy way to get tax from people. Nearly 80% of what I pay for a litre of fuel goes to the Government. |
Insomni@ 04.09.2005 16:44 |
Well,actually,here in Greece petrol prices trully hurt!!!About 1,2euro for cars and day after day the prices are rising!!!!!God help us...... |
Mrs.Taylor 04.09.2005 17:08 |
I paid 91.9p a litre today :( and that was at Tesco which, like most supermarkets, is among the cheapest at the moment. To fill my ickle car up from half cost me £18.39! Found this on another website :- link |
KillerQueen840 04.09.2005 22:06 |
It's around $3.30 per for the cheapest gas around here. But, it is constantly changing..a few days ago it rose $0.60 in two days. |
Mr. Scully 05.09.2005 03:55 |
It's not about "special prices" - as Bob said, the prices are roughly the same almost everywhere with the exception that taxes in European countries are extremely high. YourValentine hit the nail on head - the prices MUST cause a shock because otherwise Americans won't understand how they waste the world resources. |
Lisser 05.09.2005 10:49 |
Mr. Scully wrote: It's not about "special prices" - as Bob said, the prices are roughly the same almost everywhere with the exception that taxes in European countries are extremely high. YourValentine hit the nail on head - the prices MUST cause a shock because otherwise Americans won't understand how they waste the world resources.Shocking people is not the way to handle things. We do not have the same public transportation resources that other countries do. If I wanted to take a bus somewhere, I would have to walk at least 2 miles from my home to a bus stop. With two small children, one of whom is still in a car seat, that isn't feasible, or safe might I add. I'd be a walking target to someone who wanted to rob me or hurt me or my children. If we had more access to public transportation, then I'd definitely use it. It would save me tons on car insurance, car payment, gas, taxes, tags, etc. People in America buy cars bc we don't have any other way to get to where we need to go unless you live in the inner city. I would love to be chauffered around by public transportation. I do not live in the inner city, as most Americans don't. |
Maz 05.09.2005 14:21 |
Mr. Scully wrote: YourValentine hit the nail on head - the prices MUST cause a shock because otherwise Americans won't understand how they waste the world resources.Overall, population density (and, thus, access to public transportation) is less in the US than in Europe. link Over 10 million people for nearly 80,000 square kilometers link Over 11 million peoples for just over 116,000 square kilometers link Under 1 million people for over 380,000 square kilometers The first two are roughly the same population size, yet the Czech Republic has only 3/4 the geography to cover that Ohio has. And then there is Montana, which has less than a 1/10 the population of the Czech Republic, yet has nearly 5 times the land. Now, to complicate matters further, public transportation is a local or state thing. The federal government can only cover interstate transport (mainly airplanes, railroads, and long haul buses). These industries, however, are not the ones most Americans use on a day-to-day basis. So, what's the point of all this info? There are many Americans that would love public transporation, but it's not a nationwide thing, nor is it that likely to occur. In smaller communities, local taxes have to pay for it, but there's no way the low population could afford it. So, we drive. Any change in this is a long way off. |
KillerQueen840 05.09.2005 17:13 |
Lisser wrote:Even though I do think most of us Americans are gas hogs, I agree with you on that. I live in a nice neighborhood, but it is definately not that safe to go anywhere out of it, especially at night and especially alone especially if you are a young teen (my mum really doesn't like it when I go out on my own during the night, even though I often do). Sorry, I just wanted to see how many times I could use especially in a sentence..anyhow, back to where I was going with this.Mr. Scully wrote: It's not about "special prices" - as Bob said, the prices are roughly the same almost everywhere with the exception that taxes in European countries are extremely high. YourValentine hit the nail on head - the prices MUST cause a shock because otherwise Americans won't understand how they waste the world resources.Shocking people is not the way to handle things. We do not have the same public transportation resources that other countries do. If I wanted to take a bus somewhere, I would have to walk at least 2 miles from my home to a bus stop. With two small children, one of whom is still in a car seat, that isn't feasible, or safe might I add. I'd be a walking target to someone who wanted to rob me or hurt me or my children. If we had more access to public transportation, then I'd definitely use it. It would save me tons on car insurance, car payment, gas, taxes, tags, etc. People in America buy cars bc we don't have any other way to get to where we need to go unless you live in the inner city. I would love to be chauffered around by public transportation. I do not live in the inner city, as most Americans don't. I used to walk around a lot with my friends (well, usually it was just one of them..but sometimes there were three of us) along the road just outside my neighborhood to convienent stores and stuff. And, almost every five minutes people in cars would honk at us (yes, we were on the SIDE of the road, behind the white line), yell at us, and pretend to smooch their lips. One time, someone purposely threw their cigarette out their window at my friend, and it was centimeters away from hitting her. And, there were quite a few times when cars actually pulled over and stopped right next to us (with either old gross men, or teenage boys) asking where we were going, if we wanted a ride, saying "hey there," etc. I knew well enough to keep walking, but one of my friends is so guy crazy and stupid that she stops dead in her tracks and flirts with them while I'm telling her to move it. There were times when cars stopped went out of their way on the busy route and turned around just to pull over near us or try to talk to us. It is horrible, and so many kids could get abducted or worse. I offered to walk home from school (even though it would take me a long time), but my mum will not let me because the city is simply not safe. I do try to ride my bike on back roads that I know are safe, and get excerise when I want to reach a certain destination, but cars are really the only safe way out (even though of course, people still get in car accidents). Well, and trains and stuff are too, but not everyone has easy access to those. But I also care a lot about the environment, and it really disturbs me that our O-Zone layer is just ruined. So, I guess I don't know where I stand on this gas situation, but I still do not like the dramatic rise in the prices, and I hope that it does not affect the prices of other things. |
Penis - Vagina 05.09.2005 17:28 |
<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote: For a total of three people in one house we have 0 cars. So don't whine. I don't.LMAO. That's ALL you do. |
Winter Land Man 05.09.2005 17:35 |
<font color="lime">KillerQueen840 wrote:Massachusetts? you must be from the lowell area!! LOL! I'm from Conneticuit and my cousin lived there and visited and she said they got theifs and people who steal cars all over the place and lots of drugs. Horrible town in my opinion.Lisser wrote:Even though I do think most of us Americans are gas hogs, I agree with you on that. I live in a nice neighborhood, but it is definately not that safe to go anywhere out of it, especially at night and especially alone especially if you are a young teen (my mum really doesn't like it when I go out on my own during the night, even though I often do). Sorry, I just wanted to see how many times I could use especially in a sentence..anyhow, back to where I was going with this. I used to walk around a lot with my friends (well, usually it was just one of them..but sometimes there were three of us) along the road just outside my neighborhood to convienent stores and stuff. And, almost every five minutes people in cars would honk at us (yes, we were on the SIDE of the road, behind the white line), yell at us, and pretend to smooch their lips. One time, someone purposely threw their cigarette out their window at my friend, and it was centimeters away from hitting her. And, there were quite a few times when cars actually pulled over and stopped right next to us (with either old gross men, or teenage boys) asking where we were going, if we wanted a ride, saying "hey there," etc. I knew well enough to keep walking, but one of my friends is so guy crazy and stupid that she stops dead in her tracks and flirts with them while I'm telling her to move it. There were times when cars stopped went out of their way on the busy route and turned around just to pull over near us or try to talk to us. It is horrible, and so many kids could get abducted or worse. I offered to walk home from school (even though it would take me a long time), but my mum will not let me because the city is simply not safe. I do try to ride my bike on back roads that I know are safe, and get excerise when I want to reach a certain destination, but cars are really the only safe way out (even though of course, people still get in car accidents). Well, and trains and stuff are too, but not everyone has easy access to those. But I also care a lot about the environment, and it really disturbs me that our O-Zone layer is just ruined. So, I guess I don't know where I stand on this gas situation, but I still do not like the dramatic rise in the prices, and I hope that it does not affect the prices of other things.Mr. Scully wrote: It's not about "special prices" - as Bob said, the prices are roughly the same almost everywhere with the exception that taxes in European countries are extremely high. YourValentine hit the nail on head - the prices MUST cause a shock because otherwise Americans won't understand how they waste the world resources.Shocking people is not the way to handle things. We do not have the same public transportation resources that other countries do. If I wanted to take a bus somewhere, I would have to walk at least 2 miles from my home to a bus stop. With two small children, one of whom is still in a car seat, that isn't feasible, or safe might I add. I'd be a walking target to someone who wanted to rob me or hurt me or my children. If we had more access to public transportation, then I'd definitely use it. It would save me tons on car insurance, car payment, gas, taxes, tags, etc. People in America buy cars bc we don't have any other way to get to where we need to go unless you live in the inner city. I would love to be chauffered around by public transportation. I do not live in the inner city, as most Americans don't. |
RohemianBapsody 05.09.2005 17:35 |
About 4 years ago some of the transport companies went on strike due to the high price of petrol, and that was abot 80p a litre (I remember paying a garage 84p/l and thinking I had been ripped off - I have never gone back there for petrol since) ! |
KillerQueen840 05.09.2005 18:15 |
I'm not hitting the quote button cos it'll be mega long, lol but this is the reply to Leah: Well, my neighborhood is really nice, and there are some backroads to it that are nice, but other than that it does have several parts that are bad, and it is surrounded by a few other bad cities. There are drugs (but then again, everyone has that, right?) and crime. I remember someone getting stabbed in the parking lot of a nearby mall (it was in a newspaper), and there is usually several reported gun shootings in a neighboring city, and so on. But if you know where you are and where you're going, you are pretty much fine. I actually love Massachusetts, and I don't plan on moving to anywhere else. And, I feel very fortunate to live where I do. :-) |
Mr. Scully 06.09.2005 03:57 |
Lisser/Zeni - that is 100% correct, the public transport is quite scarce in the USA (lower density of population) so you're right. But the main point isn't to avoid using cars. The point is to make people drive relatively new and small cars. I think Americans drive the biggest and strongest cars in the world :-) Reasons are obvious - strong economy, cheap cars, CHEAP PETROL etc... |
Lisser 06.09.2005 11:14 |
Mr. Scully wrote: Lisser/Zeni - that is 100% correct, the public transport is quite scarce in the USA (lower density of population) so you're right. But the main point isn't to avoid using cars. The point is to make people drive relatively new and small cars. I think Americans drive the biggest and strongest cars in the world :-) Reasons are obvious - strong economy, cheap cars, CHEAP PETROL etc...I totally agree with you Scully. I drive a smaller four door car with a 4 cylinder engine. It is very gas efficient. I don't drive anywhere except to work and necessary places. I prefer to sit behind this computer screen and talk to you all. I do NOT want to pay for all that gas. I think a lot of American men like to drive the big SUV cars and trucks. It must be a penis size thing. I wouldn't know since mine is huge...anyway. I know a lot of our professional sports players like football, baseball, and basketball players as well as actresses and actors, drive HUGE Hummers with V12s in them. They have 5 and 6 cars. It's all an ego thing. They are rich beyond belief and I doubt they care about our environment much. They'll never stop using gas hogs like that bc they'll never run out of money to fuel them. |