| John S Stuart 22.08.2005 13:52 |
Ultimate Collection: 1993 Exactly as it says in the title. I apologise for any careless omissions or errors in advance, (I have proof-read but I have been restricted to one-handed work only). Please feel free to contribute and to push the boundaries forwards. (Also, if used/reproduced elsewhere - an acknowledgement would be courteous) 1993 Freddie Mercury: Freddie Mercury Album - 1993 Remixes Let's Turn It On 1993 Jeff Lord-Alge 3:44 Remix - Parlophone CDPCSD 124 Foolin' Around 1993 Steve Brown 3:35 Remix - Parlophone CDPCSD 124 Your Kind Of Lover 1993 Steve Brown 3:57 Remix - Parlophone CDPCSD 124 Mr. Bad Guy 1993 Brian Malouf 3:54 Remix - Parlophone CDPCSD 124 1993 US Julian Raymond Version 3:54 - Great Pretender CD Living On My Own 1993 NMB 12”/CDs Extended 5:13 Remix - Parlophone CDR 6355/ PM 517 1993 NMB 12”/ CDs Club 4:24 Mix - Parlophone CDR 6355 1993 NMB 12” 5:07 Dub Mix - Parlophone 12R 6355 1993 NMB 12” L.A. 3:39 Remix - Parlophone 12R 6355 1993 NMB CDs Radio 3:36 Mix - Parlophone CDR 6355 1993 NMB CDs Album 3:36 Mix - Parlophone CDR 6355 1993 NMB Techno 3:47 Remix - Home Mini-Disc 1993 Roger S. Underground Solutions 5:44 Remix - Parlophone PM 517 1993 Julian Raymond 3:37 Remix - Parlophone CDPCSD 124 1993 Remix Promotional Video - Greatest Flix III My Love Is Dangerous 1993 US Jeff Lord-Alge 3:38 Remix - Parlophone PM 517 Brian May: Unreleased, Live Beacon Theatre, New York, 14 March 1993 Long Live The Queen Bootleg CD Back To The Light, Driven By You, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Token, Love Of My Life, Let Your Heart Rule Your Head, Too Much Love Will Kill You, Now I'm Here, Brighton Rock, Resurrection, Last Horizon, Hammer To Fall, We Will Rock You. Brian May: Live US Jay Leno Tonite Show 5th April 1993 UK CDs Broadcast live 5th April 1993, Los Angeles, California, Jay Leno Tonite Show. Back To The Light, Tie Your Mother Down. Brian May: Unreleased, Live Palace Theatre, New York, 6 April 1993 Out On His Own Bootleg CD We Will Rock You Bootleg CD Originally broadcast by US Westwood One FM. Driven By You, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Of My Life, Too Much Love Will Kill You, Resurrection, Last Horizon, Hammer To Fall, We Will Rock You Brian May: Unreleased, Live Aston Villa Leisure Centre, Birmingham, 12 June 1993 Back To The Light Tour Bootleg CD Introduction, Back To The Light, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Token, Headlong, Love Of My Life, Let Your Heart Rule Your Head, Too Much Love Will Kill You, Since You Been Gone, Now I'm Here, Resurrection, Last Horizon, We Will Rock You, Teo Torriate, Hammer To Fall Brian May: Live Brixton Academy CD, 15 June 1993 UK CD Edited version of concert. Witheld track, Dream Is Over (John Lennon). Omitted due to copyright reasons. Back To The Light, Driven By You, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Token, Headlong, Love Of My Life, '39/Let Your Heart Rule Your Head, Too Much Love Will Kill You, Since You've Been Gone, Now I'm Here, Guitar Extravagance, Resurrection, Last Horizon, We Will Rock You, Hammer To Fall Brian May: Unreleased, Live Hammersmith Odeon, London, 16 June 1993 Hard Business Bootleg CD Dark, Back To The Light, Driven By You, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Token, Headlong, Is This The World We Created, Hard Business, Love Of My Life, '39 / Let Your Heart Rule Your Head, Too Much Love Will Kill You, Since You've Been Gone, Now I'm Here, Instrumental Inferno/ Resurrection / 1812 Overture / Bohemian Rhapsody, Last Horizon, We Will Rock You (Slow / Fast), Dream Is Over, Hammer To Fall Brian May: Unreleased, Live Winterthurer Festival, Switzerland, 12 September 1993 Live In Switzerland ’93 Bootleg CD Soundchecks: Since You've Been Gone, Let Your Heart Rule Your Head Dark, Back To The Light, Driven By You, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Token, Headlong, Love Of My Life, '39 / Let Your Heart Rule Your Head, Too Much Love Will Kill You, Spike Edney's Solo, Si |
| John S Stuart 22.08.2005 13:52 |
Steve Hackett: Guitar Noir Recorded 1986/ Released 1993 US CD - Viceroy Music VIC 8008 – 2 Recorded December 1986. Released 1993. Written by Brian May/ Steve Hackett. Brian May guitar. Not on the UK edition of disc, USA – Israel pressing only, special bonus track. Lost In Your Eyes, In The Heart Of The City, Sierra Quemada, Vampyre With A Healthy Appetite, Take These Pearls, Little America, There Are Many Sides To The Night, Walking Away From Rainbows, Like An Arrow, Dark As The Grave, Paint Your Picture, Tristesse Cassandra 1993 Steve Hackett (3:42) (Brian May Guitar) Paul Rodgers: Muddy Water Blues UK CD - Victory Music 828 414-2 CD Recorded Jan 1993, Powerhouse Studios, London Muddy Water Blues (Acoustic), Louisiana Blues, I Can’t Be Satisfied, Rollin’ Stone, Good Morning Little Schoolgirl (part 1), I’m Your Hoochie Coochie Man, She’s Alright, Standing Around Crying, Hunter, She Moves Me, I’m Ready, I Just Want To Make Love To You, Born Under A Bad Sign, Good Morning Little Schoolgirl (2), Muddy Water Blues (Electric) I'm Ready (Brian May Guitar) Green Peace: Alternative NRG CD Recorded 1993/ Released 1994 US CD - Hollywood 74321 180912 Recorded April 1993, using solar energy. Track six: Soundgarden/Brian May. Drive - REM Ring The Bells - James Until The End Of The World - U2 Tell Me The Truth - Midnight Oil Everyday Life Has Become A Health Risk - Disposable heroes of Hiphopriscy New Damage - Soundgarden/ Brian May New Kind Of Kick - Jesus And Mary Chain Sing Our Song - UB40 Cold - Annie Lennox Looking Through Patient Eyes - P.M. Dawn Sweetmeat - Soup Dragons Search And Destroy - EMF Yolngu Boy - Yothu Vindi J.C. - Sonic Youth Fam Bam - Boo-Yaa T.R.I.B.E Shit List - L7 Soundgarden: New Damage (Brian May Guitar) Gordon Giltrap: Music For The Small Screen UK CD - Munchkin Records MRCD 1 Recorded July 1993. Released June 1995. Heartsong Produced by Dave Morris, at his workshop studio, Reditch, Midlands, Feb – July 1993. Features Midge Ure, Neil Murray, Steve Howe, Rick Wakeman and Brian May. Heartsong, Last Of England, Shady Tales, Lord’s Seat, Holiday Romance, Unbroken Promise, Brutus, Carnival, hold The Back Page, Sunburst, Revelation Highway, Indomitable, In Unison, Lucky Heartsong (Brian May Guitar) Os Paralamas Do Sucesso: Severino Recorded 1993/ Released 1994 Brazil CD - EMI 829405 2 Argentina Dos Margaritas CD Released Jan 1994 Nao Me Estrague O Dai, Navegar Impreciso, Varal, Requiem Do Pequeno, Vamo Bate Lata, El Vampiro Bajo El Sol, Musico, Dos Margaritas, O Rio Severino, Cagaco, O Amor Dorme, Go Back, Casi Un Segundo El Vampiro Bajo El Sol (Brian May Guitar) Cross: Unreleased, Live Gosport Festival, 23 July 1993 In Charge Of My Heart, Love Lies Bleeding, Aint Put Nothing Down, A Kind Of Magic, Power To Love, Life Changes, All The Young Dudes, New Dark Ages, Sister Blue, Radio Ga Ga, We Will Rock You, On Top Of The World, These Were The Days Of Our Lives, Final Destination Brian May: Unreleased, Pop Goes Summer BBC Television, 1993 Brian May Footage/Interviews Brian May: Unreleased, Ozone BBC Television, 08 June 1993 Manchester Apollo Interview Brian May: Unreleased, Virgin Radio Interview, July 1993 Roger Taylor/John Deacon: Unreleased, Live Cowdray Park, 18 September 1993 Recorded: 18 Sept 1993, Cowdray Park Festival. Among other bands such as Pink Floyd and Genesis, Roger Taylor and John Deacon billed as Queen. Brian May replaced by Tim Renwick, Pink Floyd's support band guitarist. Live In London 1999 Bootleg CD A Kind Of Magic, I Want To Break Free, We Will Rock You, Another One Bites The Dust (Paul Young Vocals), These Are The Days Of Our Lives, Radio Ga Ga Roger Taylor: Unreleased, Masterclass BBC World Service, 28 December 1993 George Michael: Unreleased, Interview A Conversation With John Norris US MTV George Michael and Brian May A Conversation/John Norris - 5 Li |
| Maz 22.08.2005 14:25 |
1993-07-29 Interview with Roger Taylor (Gosport) - This is a TV interview, but I don't know for whom. 1993-02 Brian May on US Rockline 1993-05-06 Brian May on The Howard Stern Radio Show And to be a complete pedant, it's The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, not Tonite Show. That's just my anal retentive personality coming out :) |
| Serry... 22.08.2005 14:50 |
Roger played on few more tracks on Cowdray Park and at least one of them - Gimme Some Lovin' - have been bootleged as well as all tracks with John's playing. By the way I thought it was Jason Faloon on guitars... There's moment where Roger presents the line-up, need to check it, 'cause my memory is bad and I could be wrong :) |
| LEONARDO LANDIN 22.08.2005 21:10 |
1993 TONY MARTIN & BRIAN MAY IF THERE'S A HEAVEN - BRIAN PLAYS GUITAR 1993 BRIAN MAY THE BUSINESS (VERSION 1) THEME FROM 'FRANK STUBBS PROMOTES'VIDEO BRIAN MAY THE BUSINESS (VERSION 2) THEME FROM 'FRANK STUBBS PROMOTES' 24/06/1993 BRIAN MAY RESURRECTION LIVE FOR BBC'S TOP OF THE POPS 25/09/1993 BRIAN MAY LIVE AT TARATTATTE TV,PARIS,FRANCE VIDEO Driven By You, We Will Rock You (Slow) [Intro by Pow Pow Pow]; We Will Rock You (Fast) 13/07/1993 GUNS N ROSES & B.MAY KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR LIVE IN PARIS, FRANCE AND... 18/02/1993 HOMER SIMPSON WHEN I WAS SEVENTEEN (MENTIONS QUEEN ) 1993 THE BRIT AWARDS - ROGER (BEST MOVIE AWARD FOR WAYNE'S WORLD) VIDEO |
| John S Stuart 22.08.2005 22:59 |
Tony Martin: Back Where I Belong German CD Polydor 5135182 Recorded July 1992. No 12” available. If There Is A Heaven Album Version 7" Version (Brian May Guitar) This is in the 1992 thread. Business Album 5:07 Version Parlophone USA Radio Mix Uncut 5:08 Red Special: EMI TOCP-50707 Japan CDS Rock On Cozy Mix 4:41 Album Track 13 2:23 Outro Parlophone Frank Stubbs Promotes Original TV Theme Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc Sully Mixed Business 6:52 ISDN: Download Midi Intro 38” ISDN: Download Original TV Theme Fan Club “loop” 3:00 Unreleased This will be in the 1988 "Another World" Thread. Resurrection Album Version Parlophone CDPCSD 123 US CDS Promo 4:39 Edit UK Blue Pill Pack 5:01 Promo Ross Mix ISDN: Download Promotional Video Unreleased: Home Video Top Of The Pops BBC TV Video Unreleased: Home Video The Top Of The Pops Video has already been mentioned. Brian May/ Bon Jovi: Unreleased, Live Brit Awards Ceremony, 14 February 1994 Broadcast Live 14th February 1994. ITV Brit Awards. Sleep When I'm Dead Unreleased: Home Video (Brian May Guitar) |
| Pim Derks 23.08.2005 03:58 |
You forgot the 1993 NMB remixes of Love Kills. The Symphony, Jazzy & Radio Mixes of that track are from 1993 if I'm correct ? |
| John S Stuart 23.08.2005 09:10 |
Pim: I am doing this more on a track listing basis - so the "Living On My Own" mixes will appear under the "Mr Bad Guy" 1985 sessions. My reasoning for this is two-fold - First, I wanted to make it easy and collect all the versions under one umbrella. Therefore it is easier to read: Living On My Own 1985 UK LP/ CD Version 3:23 CBS CDCBS 86312 1985 12" Extended 6:40 Mr Bad Guy CD: CBS CDCBS 86312 1985 UK 7” 3:03 Edit CBS A6555 1985 Brazil 12" 6:34 Remix 1985 Hybrid Edit: Early Later Versions 4:27 Solo Collection: 527 9640 1993 NMB 12”/CDs Extended 5:13 Remix Parlophone CDR 6355/ PM 517 1993 NMB 12”/ CDs Club 4:24 Mix Parlophone CDR 6355 1993 NMB 12” 5:07 Dub Mix Parlophone 12R 6355 1993 NMB 12” L.A. 3:39 Remix Parlophone 12R 6355 1993 NMB CDs Radio 3:36 Mix Parlophone CDR 6355 1993 NMB CDs Album 3:36 Mix Parlophone CDR 6355 1993 NMB Techno 3:47 Remix Home Mini-Disc 1993 Roger S. Underground Solutions 5:44 Remix Parlophone PM 517 1993 Julian Raymond 3:37 Remix Parlophone CDPCSD 124 1985 Original Promotional Video Freddie Mercury Video EP 1993 Remix Promotional Video Unreleased: Home Video instead of having to plough through two or more seperate entries. (This being under 1985 because it was the original release date). Second, When new remixes come along, (let's say a new version was released in 2007) I can add this new mix to the already existing list, without cocking-up the whole system. For example, there have been a few Queen (or Queen-based) "We Will Rock You" versions in the last five years or so, so this is why I stick to this system. We Will Rock You No “Fast” Studio version exists. BBC Session only Album Version News Of The World: EMI CDP 7 46209 2 Karaoke Instrumental Japan Toshiba EMI TOLW - 3249.50 Solo Drum Track Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc True A cappella Unreleased: Home Mini-Disc BBC 14.11.1977 Freddie's Boys At The Beeb: Bulsara 001 1990 MFM 12” 53 Remix 5:58 Music Factory Master Mix Issue 53 1991 CDS Rick Ruben 5:00 Remix Hollywood Basic HB-66573-2 1991 CDS Ruined Instrumental Hollywood Basic HB-66573-2 1991 CDS Big Beat A cappella Hollywood Basic HB-66573-2 1991 CDS Zulu Scratch A cappella Hollywood Basic HB-66573-2 1991 12” Effects Instrumental Hollywood Basic ED 5529 1991 12” Clap A cappella 1:59 Hollywood Basic ED 5529 1991 12” Effects A cappella Hollywood Basic ED 5529 1992 Dakeyne/Rock Mix 4:44 In Memories Of Freddie Mercury: RM-CD 01 1992 Ben Liebrand DMC Genesis Remix 6:29 12” Minimix 1998 eYe Commentary “57 Electronic Arts DDE05501 101S 1999 Queen Vs. Diffusion Dance Remix 4:20 Home Mini-Disc 2001 DJ Beeker Hannibal Mix Home Mini-Disc 2004 Monkeybut Vs. Dax Remix Home Mini-Disc 2004 DJ Cambota Promo Remix Home Mini-Disc Queen feat. DJ Big Daddy Drum-Bass Remix Home Mini-Disc Queen Vs. Moby (White Label Remix) Home Mini-Disc Ultimix (Volume 50 SE) Home Mini-Disc Jock Jams Mix Home Mini-Disc Outro 29” Total Guitar CD Magazine 1991 12” UK DMC DJ Remix Wanted 12" Hardcore Mix Wanted 12" Jungle Mix Wanted Promotional Video (Original 4x3 TV Ratio) Greatest Flix I & II: Pioneer PLMPD 01171 Promotional Video (Widescreen) Greatest Video Hits: Parlophone 7243 4 92944 9 3 Now all of these are listed under 1977, because I know that the original track was released as part of the News Of The World. For me, to list each track under the year of release would become confusing. Remember, it is just a cataloguing system after all! I do agree that the mixes you suggest could "correctly" have been included here, but remember this is a "Collection", not a "Discography". I hope this explains my type of madness! |
| Lisser 23.08.2005 11:33 |
I'd love to see these: Brian May: Live US Jay Leno Tonite Show 5th April 1993 UK CDs Broadcast live 5th April 1993, Los Angeles, California, Jay Leno Tonite Show. Back To The Light, Tie Your Mother Down. Brian May: Unreleased, Live Palace Theatre, New York, 6 April 1993 Out On His Own Bootleg CD We Will Rock You Bootleg CD Originally broadcast by US Westwood One FM. Driven By You, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Of My Life, Too Much Love Will Kill You, Resurrection, Last Horizon, Hammer To Fall, We Will Rock You Anyone? Bueller...anyone... |
| PieterMC 23.08.2005 11:47 |
I have those somewhere... Jay Leno does the worst possible English accent to introduce Brian :-) Oh and John where can I find We Will Rock You 2004 Monkeybut Vs. Dax Remix!! |
| Erin 23.08.2005 11:53 |
I shit a brick the night I happened to be watching the Tonight Show and heard that Brian was going to be on. Talk about a screaming, frantic rush to find a blank tape! |
| John S Stuart 23.08.2005 12:09 |
PieterMC "where can I find We Will Rock You 2004 Monkeybut Vs. Dax Remix!!" B*ggered if I know now - but I can certainly make one if you really need it. (I would think about it first though!!!) |
| Lisser 23.08.2005 12:22 |
Alex Solan wrote:Oops!! I'd like to hear it!! ;)Lisser wrote: I'd love to see these: Brian May: Live US Jay Leno Tonite Show 5th April 1993 UK CDs Broadcast live 5th April 1993, Los Angeles, California, Jay Leno Tonite Show. Back To The Light, Tie Your Mother Down. Brian May: Unreleased, Live Palace Theatre, New York, 6 April 1993 Out On His Own Bootleg CD We Will Rock You Bootleg CD Originally broadcast by US Westwood One FM. Driven By You, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Of My Life, Too Much Love Will Kill You, Resurrection, Last Horizon, Hammer To Fall, We Will Rock You Anyone? Bueller...anyone...Brian May: Unreleased, Live Palace Theatre, New York, 6 April 1993 Out On His Own Bootleg CD We Will Rock You Bootleg CD Originally broadcast by US Westwood One FM. <--- How can you see a radio broadcast? =P Anygüays: link About the Jay Leno Show, let me know if you find it ;) |
| Saint Jiub 23.08.2005 12:56 |
Probably useless info but ... Back to the Light and Tie Your Mother Down from the Tonight Show were also on the Japanese "Resurrection" CD single (which also includes the Star Fleet Project mini-album) |
| PieterMC 23.08.2005 14:37 |
Lisser wrote: Oops!! I'd like to hear it!! ;)I sell you a copy for $500 :-p The Tonight Show stuff was also on the UK Resurrection Part 2 single. Which I might add I had the hardest time finding when it came out. I was greeted with blank looks whenever I tried to order it. |
| PieterMC 23.08.2005 14:41 |
Alex Solan wrote: Live, London, UK with Bon Jovi @ Brit Awards, February 14th, 1993 (no setlist available)Brian played "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead" with Bon Jovi. He also wore a cowboy hat. I have a copy somewhere. |
| Lisser 23.08.2005 14:50 |
PieterMC wrote:Put it on my tab, no make that your tab that I'll be charging things on for room service at the Fairfield Inn....w()()tLisser wrote: Oops!! I'd like to hear it!! ;)I sell you a copy for $500 :-p The Tonight Show stuff was also on the UK Resurrection Part 2 single. Which I might add I had the hardest time finding when it came out. I was greeted with blank looks whenever I tried to order it. |
| Erin 23.08.2005 16:22 |
Alex Solan wrote: Pieter: "The Tonight Show stuff was also on the UK Resurrection Part 2 single. Which I might add I had the hardest time finding when it came out. I was greeted with blank looks whenever I tried to order it." Actually I'm looking for the video version if it is possible.Like I said, I've got it taped off of t.v. when it originally came on. There isn't a good copy of that floatin' around already? |
| Erin 25.08.2005 20:13 |
Alex Solan wrote: Actually I'm looking for the video version if it is possible.Pieter put it on here for me...:-) |
| 7Innuendo7 26.08.2005 00:31 |
King Biscuit Flour Hour vol. 4 (cd) track 1, 4:20 10/28/77 WWRY (Brian May) |
| Wilki Amieva 28.01.2006 00:32 |
Sorry, but was not THE FREDDIE MERCURY ALBUM released in 1992? That makes all the remixes to date back to 1992 (specifically, before October 19th 1992). |
| Serry... 28.01.2006 02:21 |
Wilki wrote: Sorry, but was not THE FREDDIE MERCURY ALBUM released in 1992?It was released on November 16th 1992 |
| Wilki Amieva 28.01.2006 08:26 |
Yes, it was officially released in November 17th 1992. October 19th is the date the definitive master was achieved. By the way, there is also an Abbey Road cassette with some slightly different versions, dated September 15th 1992 (real-time copy from the master). |
| Walter B. 26.03.2006 07:27 |
Wilki wrote: Yes, it was officially released in November 17th 1992. October 19th is the date the definitive master was achieved. By the way, there is also an Abbey Road cassette with some slightly different versions, dated September 15th 1992 (real-time copy from the master).Unfortunately there was no follow up to this. Wilki, sorry to bother you (again), but could you tell us more please? Do you have running times of those different versions or were they just mixed differently? Thanks. |
| Wilki Amieva 02.04.2006 00:51 |
I will report soon. |
| Walter B. 15.04.2006 04:29 |
Wilki? Any chance of information? |
| Dicky Heart 15.04.2006 05:18 |
Please also have a look at this topic. There was not only a Resurrection Part 1&2 CDs. I've got the EP link Dicky Heart |
| bitesthedust 15.04.2006 07:34 |
Rip Van Winkle wrote: Probably useless info but ... Back to the Light and Tie Your Mother Down from the Tonight Show were also on the Japanese "Resurrection" CD single (which also includes the Star Fleet Project mini-album)I have the two Tonight Show songs...and yes Jay Leno does a horrible English accent to introduce Brian. |
| Wilki Amieva 10.06.2006 01:39 |
Hey Walter, e-mail me privately! |
| Walter B. 14.09.2006 13:22 |
Hey Wilki, I see that you have updated your wesite. Excellent work! Could you please elaborate more on the versions that can be found on the Abbey Road cassette of the FM Album? I looked at the versionary page, but I could not found it there. Thanks. I know your website is "work in progress", but the version of Foolin' around that can be found on the Teachers soundtrack differs too. There was an interesting thread about this issue a while ago: link PS Did you and updj1 exchange emails about the Basic Bootlegs album? I am still interested in information about the unreleased mixes. (it was discussed here: link |
| Serry... 18.02.2007 14:19 |
"Living On My Own 1993 NMB 12”/CDs Extended 5:13 Remix - Parlophone CDR 6355/ PM 517 1993 NMB 12”/ CDs Club 4:24 Mix - Parlophone CDR 6355 1993 NMB 12” 5:07 Dub Mix - Parlophone 12R 6355 1993 NMB 12” L.A. 3:39 Remix - Parlophone 12R 6355 1993 NMB CDs Radio 3:36 Mix - Parlophone CDR 6355 1993 NMB CDs Album 3:36 Mix - Parlophone CDR 6355 1993 NMB Techno 3:47 Remix - Home Mini-Disc 1993 Roger S. Underground Solutions 5:44 Remix - Parlophone PM 517 1993 Julian Raymond 3:37 Remix - Parlophone CDPCSD 124 1993 Remix Promotional Video - Greatest Flix III" There's also radio edit of radio edit (as I call it - 2:40 only) - released on French CD La Plus Grande Discothèque Du Monde Vol.7 CD in 1993 by Scorpio Music - they need to fit 25 tracks on 1 CD so most of the tracks were cut (to 2:30-3:00) including Freddie's one. |