John S Stuart 06.04.2005 09:42 |
link Windows Media Audio File - 220kbs. I take it this is MP3? I have just downloaded them all. |
PieterMC 06.04.2005 09:45 |
Two versions of Love of My Life already? The clips of I'm In Love With My Car and FBG sound good. |
Erin 06.04.2005 09:47 |
*Chuh-Ching* Pieter, you gonna buy 'em for me? ;-) |
PieterMC 06.04.2005 09:49 |
Sure but I object to $1.85 per track :-p I can hear the cash register now... |
FILIPETSA 06.04.2005 10:03 |
I cant believe they have 2 versions of Love of my Life already .... what the hell for ?? Couldn't they have offered us different material ? I bet most of these recordings are really awfull, that why maybe we are going to see a lot of "replays" .... oh well...i'll just have to buy them all.... |
krantzet80 06.04.2005 10:07 |
I wasn't too impressed of the 46664 clip that was avaible from this site, but I have to say that some of these qol-tracks are rather amazing. I have for sure changed my opinion on PR. Now, if it only could be april 30 and time for the stockholm show. |
Megamike The GREAT 06.04.2005 10:44 |
John S Stuart wrote: link Windows Media Audio File - 220kbs. I take it this is MP3? I have just downloaded them all.So... Can you send me them on MSN? Please.. I promise not to tell anyone.. hahaha.. Just kidding.. I am going to wait for a proper release.. |
Richard Orchard 06.04.2005 10:47 |
FILIPETSA wrote: I cant believe they have 2 versions of Love of my Life already .... what the hell for ??Well, lets face it, at this rate their won't be any news ones left - given the set list is the same every night. |
Two Sharp Pencils 06.04.2005 10:48 |
True... I´d prefer to wait and pay U$S 20 for a proper DVD release... |
joeyjojo 06.04.2005 11:03 |
Windows Media? ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brian seems so web saavy, yet QueenOnline just doesn't get it. And $2 a song? Is that what you folks in the UK typically pay? Yikes. Anyways, I'll probably snag a couple of these just to see how the 'new queen' sounds. Any comments on the quality of these recordings? Are these remixed of the sound board? Just soundboard dumps? Worse? |
FILIPETSA 06.04.2005 11:07 |
you can hear a sample of 30 sec of each song. some seem good, others not really.... but i insist on putting these on torrent instead of everybody paying ridiculous sums of money... |
Richard Lopata (new email) 06.04.2005 11:14 |
Well I downloaded FBG, CLTCL, IILWM Car, Can't Get Enough and IWTBF they're pretty good!!!! So, which version of Love Of My Life is the best one? |
John S Stuart 06.04.2005 12:03 |
I must conceed, that I am pretty pleased with the soundboard quality. I use Windows Media Player 10. After downloading, I burned the tracks onto CD using the "burn" option. (Quite easy really considering my PC savvy is moderate at best). The subsequent CD through a proper Stereo system sounds the donkey's bollocks. I know through time that more complete bootlegs may appear, but I was never one for quantity. As far as I am concerned give me a handful of quality tracks (or one decent concert) from each tour and I am as happy as pigs... (Well you get the point). Each track can be burned up to 3 times, so creating this disc will not effect my "Official" download CD when it arrives - but how - using Windows Media (or any other program) - do I eliminate the few seconds between each track? Richard Lopata (new email): "which version of Love Of My Life is the best one?" Rome 4th April 2005 (when the fans start chanting "Freddie, Freddie..." - but both are pretty good) |
Future Manager 06.04.2005 12:28 |
John S Stuart wrote: Each track can be burned up to 3 times, so creating this disc will not effect my "Official" download CD when it arrives - but how - using Windows Media (or any other program) - do I eliminate the few seconds between each track?Can't you just rip the songs again from your burned cd to mp3 or something and then edit them? Then you can burn the songs forever too. |
Fenderek 06.04.2005 12:32 |
I have to say- they sound amazing. |
David Jones 06.04.2005 13:21 |
Can't you rip them to wav to edit the gaps in CoolEdit Pro or something as normal? If not, that sucks. Another reason why legal downloading is a load of bollocks... Your just being cheated out of a product... Long live Easytree... |
PieterMC 06.04.2005 14:22 |
David Jones wrote: Long live Easytree...Famous last words.... |
mateuspaes 06.04.2005 14:25 |
i'll wait for someone to upload'em as a torrent, coz i won't buy a fucking song for 2 dollar. that's what i call a rip off |
Maz 06.04.2005 14:40 |
Why should offficial material with proceeds being donated to charity be uploaded as a torrent? It is expensive to download all of these tracks and I'll likely pass on this. Still no need to torrent them. |
jona1 06.04.2005 14:49 |
these downloads are the dogs bo***ks |
jona1 06.04.2005 14:50 |
Remember the cash goes to 46664 all for a damn good cause |
mateuspaes 06.04.2005 14:53 |
ok I just don't have that kind of money right now, thank yoi very much |
jona1 06.04.2005 15:03 |
no offence intened sorry mate |
mateuspaes 06.04.2005 15:04 |
non taken jona, dont worry cheers |
Rien 06.04.2005 15:11 |
well i've downloaded them all and I am actually satisfied with the quality, though I think I remember the songs were a bit more heavier during the concerts I've seen. Do they sound a bit flat or am I imagining this? Overall I'm quite happy with these tracks, but indeed... the space between tracks on the cd later on... they all do fade in and out, making it not really "live" if you get what I mean. I do hope they'll release a proper live cd and dvd after all. |
John S Stuart 06.04.2005 15:15 |
Rein: I agree. I too will buy the official DVD/CD if/when they are released. I was hoping that the download tracks would be an additional "bonus" that would NOT be part of the official product, and exclusively available to Queen-Online. For example - Queen's Wembley and Milton Keynes, and Brian's Brixton were "full" shows - I was hoping that an official live product would be on the same lines - and not a composite of the entire European tour. |
gr8kingrat 06.04.2005 15:49 |
holy shit people! If you think its so expensive, dont download the fucking songs and quit your whinning! bitch, bitch, bitch..thats all i seem to read on this board. Some of you seem to forget that the money goes to charity (Mercury-Phoenix Trust I think) |
Penetration_Guru 06.04.2005 16:36 |
They'd sell more if they priced them better..... |
agneepath! 11994 06.04.2005 16:51 |
Agree with PG. £1 a track seems a rip-off. |
joeyjojo 06.04.2005 22:36 |
"Each track can be burned up to 3 times" Wait...these are DRMed? Does that mean no Mac support? |
joeyjojo 06.04.2005 22:38 |
Well crap! These ARE DRMed! What crap. $2 for a DRMed file I can't even use on my machine. What BS. Feh. You ain't winning any new fans with that, Queen. Guess I too will patiently wait for someone to torrent them. |
inu-liger 06.04.2005 22:42 |
John S Stuart wrote: Rein: I agree. I too will buy the official DVD/CD if/when they are released. I was hoping that the download tracks would be an additional "bonus" that would NOT be part of the official product, and exclusively available to Queen-Online. For example - Queen's Wembley and Milton Keynes, and Brian's Brixton were "full" shows - I was hoping that an official live product would be on the same lines - and not a composite of the entire European tour.Actually, Brian's Brixton CD and Video/LD release was not complete, as the song "God (The Dream Is Over" (by John Lennon) could not be included for "legal copyright reasons" (Yoko didn't answer Brian's letter asking permission to use the song on the CD). So it's not quite complete. Also, apparently some songs were edited as well. I could be wrong on the last part. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 06.04.2005 23:14 |
Couldn't resist and downloaded: - Can't get enough of your love; - Fat bottomed girls; - I'm in love with my car. They are AWESOME! Can't wait for the DVD and for an eventual CD with new material. Queen... rocks! Cheers, Ogre- |
proton 07.04.2005 04:39 |
check properties of the tracks in your mediaplayer, it says that you may burn 10 times, not 3x :-) |
[ Wybren™ ] 07.04.2005 05:43 |
proton wrote: check properties of the tracks in your mediaplayer, it says that you may burn 10 times, not 3x :-)proton what happens when you copy the WMA file e.g. to another harddisk? Could you burn that 'new file' also ten times? And what happens if you open the file in CoolEdit? |
Fenderek 07.04.2005 05:43 |
Why the heck the site is not on at the moment...? |
Fenderek 07.04.2005 06:20 |
Oh how fuckin great- I bought the tracks and can't fucking listen to them (or download) as i'm working on MAC. Thank you very fuckin' much... :((((((((( Now even more hassle to get them... Jesus, can they get ANYTHING right...????!!!!! I know it's DRM, but... does it have to be...? I'm seriously pissed off... |
pastieman 07.04.2005 06:25 |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: Couldn't resist and downloaded: - Can't get enough of your love; - Fat bottomed girls; - I'm in love with my car. They are AWESOME! Can't wait for the DVD and for an eventual CD with new material. Queen... rocks! Cheers, Ogre-sorry wrong edit reply opppps |
pastieman 07.04.2005 06:28 |
Inu Yasha<h6>a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper wrote:Got the right one this time.John S Stuart wrote: Rein: I agree. I too will buy the official DVD/CD if/when they are released. I was hoping that the download tracks would be an additional "bonus" that would NOT be part of the official product, and exclusively available to Queen-Online. For example - Queen's Wembley and Milton Keynes, and Brian's Brixton were "full" shows - I was hoping that an official live product would be on the same lines - and not a composite of the entire European tour.Actually, Brian's Brixton CD and Video/LD release was not complete, as the song "God (The Dream Is Over" (by John Lennon) could not be included for "legal copyright reasons" (Yoko didn't answer Brian's letter asking permission to use the song on the CD). So it's not quite complete. Also, apparently some songs were edited as well. I could be wrong on the last part. You are correct, it is not the whole show, apart from "God", they cut out about 3 mins of Freddie calls before LOML and some after, plus the old red lady had a problem at the start of Lost Horizon, so Spike did an impromptu while it was being fixed. |
Justice 07.04.2005 06:32 |
The only cash register in this equation is the one I wanna shut on your fingers Pieter. Oh, if only. You don't have to buy the tracks, and the proceeds are going to a charity established in memory of one of the greatest men to walk the earth. And you guys are bitching about the price? My heroes. Also - Windows Media Player is available for Mac last I checked (search MS's site), and if you have a problem with the DRM just burn it and rerip it as MP3. Will take you all of two minutes when you've completed your CD. |
mcain 07.04.2005 07:38 |
I've always wondering why Brian says 'Let's try again' at the beginning of 'Last Horizon'. I always thought it was because the band didn't get a big enough cheer! I'd also like to point out that these tracks require Windows Media 10, which is not available for the Mac. So us Mac users do have a right to complain, firstly to Microsoft, and secondly to Queen. |
joeyjojo 07.04.2005 08:14 |
No, the complaint goes directly to Queen. Choosing DRM to begin with, and WMV on top of that is just an asinine move. Also, even for all the PC folks, WMV is at the bottom of the pile in terms of preference, as it's no good on an iPod...the most poplar mp3 player on the market. I finally listened to the 30-second clips and I must say, any excitement I had for this tour was instantly drained from me. Paul Rogers is a good singer, but really doesn't fit at all into Queen. Oh well. |
FriedChicken 07.04.2005 08:17 |
"proton what happens when you copy the WMA file e.g. to another harddisk? Could you burn that 'new file' also ten times? And what happens if you open the file in CoolEdit? " If you do that it says it's copy protected, when you send someone else the WMA file they have to fill in YOUR email adress and password. Don't worry, I ripped them all to Mp3, and they're widely spread amoung dutch fans already, should come to the rest of you soon |
FriedChicken 07.04.2005 08:17 |
And I can't put them online, if someone wants them contact me on msn it's FREE :D |
FriedChicken 07.04.2005 08:17 |
Ohh i'm such a parasite don't you think? |
PieterMC 07.04.2005 08:30 |
Justice wrote: The only cash register in this equation is the one I wanna shut on your fingers Pieter.Thanks, I appreciate that. Where does it say that proceeds from the tracks are going to charity. I see that it says that for the CD but I don't see that written anywhere for the tracks. Maybe I missed that. Either way $1.85 for a track is too expensive. |
Scirocco1977 07.04.2005 08:36 |
CAn anybody tell me why we are supposed to buy the CD? I am using as much brain energy as possible but I cannot understand why I should buy one from QP... |
[ Wybren™ ] 07.04.2005 09:12 |
FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: And I can't put them online, if someone wants them contact me on msn it's FREE :DWhat's you MSN? Thanx man! |
[ Wybren™ ] 07.04.2005 09:15 |
Scirocco1977 wrote: CAn anybody tell me why we are supposed to buy the CD? I am using as much brain energy as possible but I cannot understand why I should buy one from QP...Of course you can burn them on regular CDRs, so you don't have to buy the official one. But if you buy the official one your CDR looks more professional;P |
John S Stuart 07.04.2005 09:25 |
John S Stuart: Queen's Wembley and Milton Keynes, and Brian's Brixton were "full" shows - I was hoping that an official live product would be on the same lines - and not a composite of the entire European tour. Inu: Actually, Brian's Brixton CD and Video/LD release was not complete, as the song "God (The Dream Is Over"... So it's not quite complete..." I think you woefully missed the point. You will see INVERTED COMMAS around the word full. I will quote: "Brian's Brixton were "full" shows". This means that I KNOW about the "missing" bits - but, but for all intents and purposes they are as near as complete as damn-it! What the REAL point of the thread was, I have loads of bootlegs I never listen to because they are crap. There are also "FULL" Brixton bootlegs if you want to chase them. But, realistically speaking, the only ones I need, and the only ones I really listen to are the official release, because - they are worth it. The Queen + Paul Rodgers stuff will follow the same pattern. EVERY show will be audience bootlegged. These crap sounding releases will end up on e-bay and some will be happy. Others will worry, lose sleep and curse the fact they own recordings from EVERY performence - except ONE - and that one somehow becomes a Holy Grail, and when they do eventually track it down it will sound like the band are performing in a Rice Crispy bowl in the middle of an aerodrome. For me, relax. Forget all that bull... A few carefully selected QUALITY products, (in my mind) beats quantity everday. There will be a "COMPLETE" DVD/CD (notice those inverted commas again), and some additional downloads, and if this gives me a reasonable flavour of the tour, then I am as happy as pigs again. If however, some quality bootleg comes along (eg a FM broadcast) then ofcourse I would be interested, but untill then, these are the best available recordings so far, and as such, I think they are fine. |
Mr. Scully 07.04.2005 09:53 |
Crap sounding releases? John, you're underestimating our abilities! :-) |
Penetration_Guru 07.04.2005 15:20 |
Agreed. I'm willing to bet that at least one show will be recorded by someone who generates something BETTER than FM-standard, and probably will match these downloads. |
John S Stuart 07.04.2005 15:39 |
Mr. S/ PG: I hope you are both correct, and if you are, then I would also hope to be one of the first in the queue, but I think you both know by now that I was talking in generalisations - rather than absolutes. But then again, I think my general point still stands - in that personally I would prefer a handful of good bootlegs (regardless of source)- than a plethora of poorly sounding recordings. I goes without saying that I would like to see a few good bootlegs surface either during or after the tour - and that there are enough copies for all of us! |
Justice 07.04.2005 16:13 |
Thanks, I appreciate that.Joking son, joking... Where does it say that proceeds from the tracks are going to charity. I see that it says that for the CD but I don't see that written anywhere for the tracks. Maybe I missed that. Either way $1.85 for a track is too expensive.They're 99p right? Where I live that comes out as $2.60 a track. Assuming you can fit on 15 tracks on the CD (but given the songs lengths it'll likely be less), that comes out at $39 exact for a full CD of material. Now, depending on where you go you can get a new single disc release CD for $29 - $35, most of which barely break the 45 minute mark it seems these days. Add less than $1 for a CDR (you don't have to get the official CDR), and you've got a passable deal in my opinion. Media Player 9 is available for Mac; I'd be extremely surprised if it's not compatible with the DRM - link. Download it and try using one of the 30 second clips. Don't get me wrong, I'm an XP user but still would've prefered iTunes to be used too. It owns Media Player with one hand behind it's back. You can still use them on the iPod, just burn them and rerip them. |
onevsion 07.04.2005 17:34 |
John S Stuart wrote: Mr. S/ PG: I hope you are both correct, and if you are, then I would also hope to be one of the first in the queue, but I think you both know by now that I was talking in generalisations - rather than absolutes. But then again, I think my general point still stands - in that personally I would prefer a handful of good bootlegs (regardless of source)- than a plethora of poorly sounding recordings. I goes without saying that I would like to see a few good bootlegs surface either during or after the tour - and that there are enough copies for all of us!I get your point... i agree with you. But.. Martin is right also. Some bootleggers have really great equipment: new generation minidisc recorder+omnidirectional stereo microphones: they record it the way you hear it. + battery packs. Costs you 500 dollar and gives you at least VG+ recordings. Most of them are even EX. U2 and R.E.M. bootlegs i've heared which are recorded with this equipment are very very enjoyable to hear. |
Fenderek 08.04.2005 05:40 |
Justice wrote: Media Player 9 is available for Mac; I'd be extremely surprised if it's not compatible with the DRM - link. Download it and try using one of the 30 second clips. Don't get me wrong, I'm an XP user but still would've prefered iTunes to be used too. It owns Media Player with one hand behind it's back. You can still use them on the iPod, just burn them and rerip them.Oh for f** sake! From FAQ on queennline: Q) Will these downloads work on a Mac? A) Unfortunately at the moment, no – this is due to the DRM technology in operation. We hope to be able to offer these downloads to Macs in the future. So I have every right to complain. They don't work on Mac- PERIOD. I can't rerip or burn anything because I simply cannot DOWNLOAD anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
[ Wybren™ ] 08.04.2005 15:06 |
Just bought my first legal WMA file: IWTBF Madrid, I must say it sounds pretty good! |
PieterMC 08.04.2005 15:10 |
Justice wrote: They're 99p right? Where I live that comes out as $2.60 a track. Assuming you can fit on 15 tracks on the CD (but given the songs lengths it'll likely be less), that comes out at $39 exact for a full CD of material. Now, depending on where you go you can get a new single disc release CD for $29 - $35, most of which barely break the 45 minute mark it seems these days. Add less than $1 for a CDR (you don't have to get the official CDR), and you've got a passable deal in my opinion.I don't get your math. 99p = $1.85 USD 15 x $1.85 = $27.75 USD Average price of a CD purchased from the store is $9.99 = $13.99 USD. Hardly a good deal. |
Adam Baboolal 08.04.2005 22:27 |
Ducksoup wrote: I get your point... i agree with you. But.. Martin is right also. Some bootleggers have really great equipment: new generation minidisc recorder+omnidirectional stereo microphones: they record it the way you hear it. + battery packs. Costs you 500 dollar and gives you at least VG+ recordings. Most of them are even EX. U2 and R.E.M. bootlegs i've heared which are recorded with this equipment are very very enjoyable to hear.Hmm... I have a 2nd hand £35 minidisc recorder + 2 £10 mics plugged into a £10 microphone battery pass-through (juice booster off ebay) and the sound/quality is amazing. It doesn't cost much to record this kind of stuff. It all comes down to the bootlegger's understanding of how to use their equipment! I walked into a small concert with the above equipment and forgot to set levels and most of the loud parts are distorted. My bad. But the quiet parts sounded amazing. I'm not doing anything that Joe Bloggs couldn't. It really costs peanuts to get great results these days. Peace, Adam. |