| parchedpeas 08.03.2005 19:52 |
I really don't mean this to be offensive, because we are all at one time or another, a bit moody. It just strikes me that Brian bares his soul on his website sometimes, and he doesn't always come across very well - often he is very defensive and he always responds to criticism by going on the attack, even when some of it is justified. For example, Elton John as been quoted of late saying that he doesn't think the musical We Will ROck You is very creative. And i'd have to agree with him. It's a wafer thin plot strung together to make use of the best Queen songs. The actualy musical is FANTASTIC and it's the best night of entertainment I've had in ages, but it's certainly not creative in the same way as scoring a new musical is. Yet Brian, rather than think about this point, has gone on the attack, going off at Elton and effectively saying that because We Will Rock You has run for so long, it MUST be creative. He completely misses the point Elton John made, i think. It's not the first time - when the stuff came up in the press about Sun City he went on the defensive and tried to rewrite history a little bit rather than just saying 'yeah, we made a mistake and we're sorry - here's what we've done since to prove we're not racist'. When Queen failed to win best British single at the Brits, he went on about how the voting was skewed in favour of certain artists. Would he have done that if Queen had won? Of course not. Just my tuppence - I think he's a great artist, and I know he's had so much from teh press that it probably makes him very cagey, but I wonder if he realises that being like that on his website makes him seem sometimes quite bitter. |
| Gunpowder Gelatine 08.03.2005 20:25 |
I think Brian reacted fine to Elton's comment. He's obviously proud of the musical, and to have a supposed friend of his cut it down must have hurt. The thing is, he's human, which I think some people often forget because of his celebrity status. And when it's not you in the situation, it's so much easier to comment on it and judge him as being moody or bitter. Brian's spent years of his life perfecting this musical and it means a lot to him. If someone trashed something that important to me, I doubt I'd be able to see the criticism with a level-head. It's just a normal gut reaction to defend what you care for, which is what Brian's doing. |
| Adam Baboolal 08.03.2005 20:55 |
Totally agree with GG. Elton shouldn't have been taking pot shots at other musicals that were successful for their formula - just because he thinks he's got something better? That's like someone coming out with an album and claiming to be better than other artists and taking the piss out of their style, production, etc. At least when Brian goes on about the WWRY musical, he also mentions other shows that he really enjoys and points people to those shows, too! He doesn't go out of his way to be nasty for no reason at all. That's what I notice about Brian. And if the Billy Elliot show is anything like what I witnessed from the Royal Variety performance, man... WWRY is gonna be seen as a masterpiece in comparison!! Peace, Adam. |
| 7Innuendo7 09.03.2005 07:19 |
Brian's not a moody git -- he's a bloody awesome guitarist! Elton didn't mention Paul Simon's "Capeman" -- a valid target to criticize -- and he fails to mention "MammaMia," the ABBA musical, or Billy Joel's "Steppin' Out." I've not seen WWRY yet, but what I hear sounds a little bit like the lyrics to Machines, a song I love, so I imagine I'd enjoy WWRY. Elton John is simply misinformed, inaccurate, and probably not had a good rogering in about twenty-five years. |
| deleted user 09.03.2005 07:48 |
parchedpeas wrote: He completely misses the point Elton John made, i think. It's not the first time - when the stuff came up in the press about Sun City he went on the defensive and tried to rewrite history a little bit rather than just saying 'yeah, we made a mistake and we're sorry - here's what we've done since to prove we're not racist'. |
| deleted user 09.03.2005 07:53 |
parchedpeas wrote: He completely misses the point Elton John made, i think. It's not the first time - when the stuff came up in the press about Sun City he went on the defensive and tried to rewrite history a little bit rather than just saying 'yeah, we made a mistake and we're sorry - here's what we've done since to prove we're not racist'.Sun City was NO mistake. It was right that they were there. All that the people wanted in South Africa was to see Queen live - and thats what they got. When Elton John played in Russia in 1979 it was also a totalitarian communist regime. Also when Queen played in Argentinia in 1981 the country was ruled by a brutal military regime. But nobody cares about that. |
| Sebastian 09.03.2005 09:30 |
If Elton never saw the show and now is judging it as not creative he's unfair, especially considering the large lot of Elton's fans who probably had some spare cash and were thinking about going to the Dominion, but now won't just because he said what he said. But Dr. May isn't more honourable by basing his comments on the success of the musical. The musical can be successful for dozens of reasons besides the quality (e.g. promotion, the popularity of the band, the fact many fans accept anything he'll do even if it's the biggest crap). I've never attended it and I'm not thinking of doing it even if I had the money, so I can't judge it. But, educated guess: if it's as imaginative as Drama-Brian and his rants at the soapbox, then it's definitely not creative at all. |
| Roy Queen 09.03.2005 10:12 |
I totaly agree with Brian... The Brits were crap, crap and even more crap! |
| Champipple 09.03.2005 13:15 |
I've actually given this a bit of thought lately and I think that anyone, *anyone* with access to publishing their every waking thought, almost instantaniously with a large audience will come across as a bit of a git every now and then. I think Brian is very open, honest and glib on his website, and sometimes this will get him into trouble. I don't think he puts too much deep thought behind what he types up and sends to the web publisher. If he published a weekly newsletter or something, he would edit his comments and come across more stable but less interesting. Keep in mind too, that sometimes text comes across more harsh than live words. |
| LucyCoeCollins 10.03.2005 00:26 |
who listens' to anything elton john says anymore anyway he's such a miserable little C*** |
| PhoenixRising 10.03.2005 08:14 |
Brian is simply proud of his life's works, and he defends them like he would his children. A quick trip around Brian's website and you'll find he displays his achievements like trophys, and God forbid anyone cut him down... he has a short fuse, unfortunately, and it goes off at the slightest bit of rejection or criticism. Just a weakness in his personality, but nevertheless easy for us to forgive. Brian wears his heart on his sleeve. He uses his website as a source of comfort and he cherishes approval. You can easily sense his pride in all things Queen, in WWRY, in his fights against apartheid and AIDS, and in his lovely wife, Anita. But get on his bad side, and you'd better duck when the furniture starts flying. |
| iGSM 10.03.2005 08:42 |
I accidentally spelt his name Moy once when chatting to friends. Well! Didn't I get a bagful for that! |
| Serry... 10.03.2005 10:45 |
I remember how Brian (as well as some Queen fans here) wrote that if you think that Queen+PR tour is gonna be a crap - just don't go and sit at home. So if you think that the BRITS is gonna be a crap - why do you go there? It's not his job. John sits in his house and seems as most happy man in the world. What's the problem? I remember some Roger's quotes about Bob Geldof when they weren't friends (before Live Aid), but Bob didn't offended. If you think that your friend said something stupid just ring his number and say it to him! (And Sun City wasn't their mistake, IMO. Yes, Elton played in Russia in 1979 and now he's one of most respectful artists here. He played not for our former government but for people.) |
| bigc 10.03.2005 14:15 |
sun city was wrong. and different to russia |
| doremi 10.03.2005 14:31 |
PhoenixRising wrote: Brian is simply proud of his life's works, and he defends them like he would his children. A quick trip around Brian's website and you'll find he displays his achievements like trophys, and God forbid anyone cut him down... he has a short fuse, unfortunately, and it goes off at the slightest bit of rejection or criticism. Just a weakness in his personality, but nevertheless easy for us to forgive. Brian wears his heart on his sleeve. He uses his website as a source of comfort and he cherishes approval. You can easily sense his pride in all things Queen, in WWRY, in his fights against apartheid and AIDS, and in his lovely wife, Anita. But get on his bad side, and you'd better duck when the furniture starts flying.--I agree with you 100% on this! But then that's why Brian calls it his "soapbox"! Look out duck!...a sofa is flying through the air, just kidding!-- --Really I'd rather Brian feel good about something though because he really does his absolute true and best for Queen and Aids & such and I think he very much does in fact wear his heart on his sleeve as you say.-- |
| Lady Cool Cat 10.03.2005 14:36 |
Well, it was kinda rude of Elton to say that about the We Will Rock You play in front of Brian, when he worked hard on the play. But, about the other things, yeah, I guess he was a bit moody...but, hey, all of us are moody sometimes, and its only human to be moody!! |
| ANAGRAMER 10.03.2005 14:47 |
Brian takes things too personally. He should brush these comments off like Freddie. What does he mean 'Billy Elliot doesn't ROCK' - everything doesn't have to..... Anyway - why no Scottosh dates? |
| ANAGRAMER 10.03.2005 14:48 |
Lady Cool Cat wrote: Well, it was kinda rude of Elton to say that about the We Will Rock You play in front of Brian, when he worked hard on the play. But, about the other things, yeah, I guess he was a bit moody...but, hey, all of us are moody sometimes, and its only human to be moody!!on the PLAY - the PLAY?? Lady Cool cat - get yer brain on |
| 1quen_fan 10.03.2005 18:04 |
Lady Cool Cat wrote: Well, it was kinda rude of Elton to say that about the We Will Rock You play in front of Brian, when he worked hard on the play. But, about the other things, yeah, I guess he was a bit moody...but, hey, all of us are moody sometimes, and its only human to be moody!!yeah! Heck I get moody sometimes too. Brian is THE BEST GUITARIST EVER! |
| the oppositionist 11.03.2005 09:16 |
parchedpeas wrote: I really don't mean this to be offensive, because we are all at one time or another, a bit moody. It just strikes me that Brian bares his soul on his website sometimes, and he doesn't always come across very well - often he is very defensive and he always responds to criticism by going on the attack, even when some of it is justified. For example, Elton John as been quoted of late saying that he doesn't think the musical We Will ROck You is very creative. And i'd have to agree with him. It's a wafer thin plot strung together to make use of the best Queen songs. The actualy musical is FANTASTIC and it's the best night of entertainment I've had in ages, but it's certainly not creative in the same way as scoring a new musical is. Yet Brian, rather than think about this point, has gone on the attack, going off at Elton and effectively saying that because We Will Rock You has run for so long, it MUST be creative. He completely misses the point Elton John made, i think. It's not the first time - when the stuff came up in the press about Sun City he went on the defensive and tried to rewrite history a little bit rather than just saying 'yeah, we made a mistake and we're sorry - here's what we've done since to prove we're not racist'. When Queen failed to win best British single at the Brits, he went on about how the voting was skewed in favour of certain artists. Would he have done that if Queen had won? Of course not. Just my tuppence - I think he's a great artist, and I know he's had so much from teh press that it probably makes him very cagey, but I wonder if he realises that being like that on his website makes him seem sometimes quite bitter.I have to agree with this. Of course Brian is a good guitarist etc, thats not the argument. I feel like i dont even know him anymore, he just uses his site to whine on and on about the press and people who dont like something hes done. a little criticism is how somebody improves themselves. You dont hear Roger doing it, Brian should just realise that after 30 years at it, hes always going to get people who arent impressed by him. Just get over it Brian and do what you like. |
| Serry... 11.03.2005 09:41 |
bigc wrote: sun city was wrong. and different to russiaAnd what's the difference? To me - I am a Russian - only difference is that they played in Sun City and didn't play in my country. |
| mr bad guy 5656 11.03.2005 11:07 |
Oh well, Elton John. Look at him. He's an old faggot who's been on his way back since...well, 20 years. Who cares? I don't. Queen meant much more for music history anyway so let the old bore say whatever he wants to say. I don't like his glasses btw. |
| bigc 11.03.2005 11:45 |
Serry Funster wrote:racism. your regime was ideologically different...it wasnt so inherently racist as south africa was.bigc wrote: sun city was wrong. and different to russiaAnd what's the difference? To me - I am a Russian - only difference is that they played in Sun City and didn't play in my country. |
| Serry... 11.03.2005 17:41 |
bigc wrote:Yes, you're right, but our regime had a lot of other stupid things. You could be arrested for listening 'wrong Western music' in the end of 70s or for watching 'wrong Western movies'.Serry Funster wrote:racism. your regime was ideologically different...it wasnt so inherently racist as south africa was.bigc wrote: sun city was wrong. and different to russiaAnd what's the difference? To me - I am a Russian - only difference is that they played in Sun City and didn't play in my country. |
| *3*Playful as a pussycat 11.03.2005 18:09 |
No...not at all! I think his comment about Elton John was just fine. I have been to his website many many times and that thought has never crossed my mind! Actually, he seems to be one of the nicest entertainers I have ever... well, met in a sense and the fact that he actually takes time out of his busy schedule (< I spelled that wrong didnt i?) to communicate with us fans is amazing! I would think it over again until you realize how wrong it is to say that about him! |
| Ray D O'Gaga 12.03.2005 08:45 |
Brian may be a bit of a moody git but he's my moody git. |
| *3*Playful as a pussycat 12.03.2005 19:16 |
heh... |
| Knute 19.04.2005 14:42 |
vivival wrote: i h8 brian mayI'm sure the feeling's mutual you snot-nosed little punk. Your mommy should take away your computer rights. Your spending too much time on it and you're falling behind in all of your classes. |
| Bobby_brown 21.04.2005 15:08 |
I think Brian takes things a little too serious! For example, the article that a journalism has made speacking how he would like to see Brian, Beck, clapton, and Page caught a drug overdose and die in the early seventies so that they couldn´t remind him how old he was (or something like that). I mean, i understood the joke or his point of view, and probably he was a bit incorrect but Brian really over reacted saying that the journalism wants him dead and missing the article real intention. I think Brian needs atention or lovecare and that´s why he have this kind of relation with his fans. I really think we are contributing for his emotional stabilitty. |
| Sonja 21.04.2005 16:56 |
I admire Brian for all he's done throughout his career but he's getting way too obsessive with things... Anytime someone makes a negative comment on his work he starts whining and defends it like a kid. He can't take any criticism at all. And most of the time he writes about uninteresting things on his soapbox where you ask yourself when reading "doesnt he have better things to do and to think about?" I think the last time I read his soapbox he was writing about "orbs" in pictures all the time and that was actually what made me stop reading his website. |
| doremi 21.04.2005 17:01 |
You know what...I would LOVE if ROGER did his own soapbox. Roger is much looser, has a GLORIOUS, outrageous sense of humor, isn't afraid to speak his mind, but doesn't take things or himself too seriously. I would adore to see what fascinating, probably hilarious things Rog would have to say. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 21.04.2005 18:55 |
Roger is funny and agreed with what Elton said about Madonna. Madonna is the reason for high priced pigs like Britney, Christina and what not! Also, Roger was funny on the Wembley DVD about drum solos and said "If I ever saw someone go get a hot dog while doing a solo I would never do it again because you knew you boring them". God bless Roger! Drummers are usually the funniest members of bands(Roger Taylor, Nick Mason, Keith Moon, Phil Collins to an extent, the late John Panozzo of Styx, the late Eric Carr, the late John Bonham, Charlie Watts(he's funny when he complains about touring) |
| Mr.Jingles 21.04.2005 19:23 |
Why is Elton blasting the work of his fellow colleagues like George Michael, Rod Stewart, and Queen but he doesn't say a fuckin' thing about Ashlee Simpson? |