The Fairy King 19.10.2018 11:37 |
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Queenman!! 19.10.2018 12:29 |
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Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) 19.10.2018 12:34 |
For anyone interested, my initial thoughts on the soundtrack… there are few unique song versions on here too (for those who care about such things). 1. 20th Century Fox Theme: This is a fun curiosity and the perfect way to start the soundtrack (and presumably the movie). Sounds really good with headphones. You’re not going to have this on heavy rotation, but again, it’s fun. 2. Somebody To Love: Album Version – 2011 remaster 3. Doing All Right… revisisted: This was the track I was most looking forward to. First verses sung by Roger. Middle verses are a mix of new Tim Staffell vocals followed by classic Tim Staffell vocals. Final verses sung by Brian, sounds double tracked. Instrumentally, it sounds like a mix of new performance with the classic Smile and Queen versions? I have to listen to this more closely to really get my head around it. Regardless of how it’s composited, I really think this one works. A highlight for me; I assume it will be for others on this forum as well? 4. Keep Yourself Alive (Live At The Rainbow 74): From the March ’74 concert. Judging by the time of 3:56, I assumed this was simply one of the edits that appeared on the 2014 US Hollywood Records promo CD. Of course, this isn’t the case. Another song version for you collectors out there! Details below: - Album (Fairy Feller ending): “I’ll tell you what, it’s time you all joined in, everybody. And I know you know the words to this one. All you’ve got to do is clap along, sing along the choruses. It’s called…. - Album (KYA intro): Keep Yourself Alive! - US Promo Single Version: “And I know you know the words to this one. All you’ve got to do is clap along, sing along the choruses. It’s called Keep Yourself Alive!” - Soundtrack Version: “I’ll tell you what, it’s time you all joined in, everybody. It’s called Keep Yourself Alive!” 5. Killer Queen: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 6. Fat Bottomed Girls (Live In Paris 79): This is from one of the three nights Queen played Paris in 1979 (definitely not night two, FBG wasn’t played that night). These three concerts ended the European Tour; the third of which was the longest Queen show ever. This is a fantastic performance, recording and mix. This will make everyone want a live Paris release. An unexpected highlight! 7. Bohemian Rhapsody: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 8. Now I’m Here (Live at the Hammersmith Odeon 1975): This version does not include Bob Harris’ intro. It goes from crowd noise straight into Brian’s guitar intro. This version ends after the big drum/guitar ending with some quick crowd noise. This is similar to the version used on the 2011 remaster Bonus EP, but not exactly the same. 9. Crazy Little Thing Called Love: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 10. Love Of My Life (Live at Rock In Rio): A version of this has been released before, on the US George Michael + Queen Somebody To Love cassette single. The cassette version and this soundtrack version are both from the same night. The cassette has a long monologue from Brian with the audience, along with Brian complimenting the audience throughout. For the soundtrack, all of Brian’s interactions with the audience have been removed. The outro on the cassette version goes on a bit longer well, with more banter from Freddie. 11. We Will Rock You (Movie Mix): From 0:00 to 0:51 it’s the album version. 0:52 to 2:09 is live. This is kind of weird, splitting the song like this. From the movie previews, I can see this working well for the purposes of the film, but it’s kind of weird on its own. 12. Another One Bites The Dust: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 13. I Want To Break Free: This is somewhat interesting, at 3:43 in length, this is a different version from both the album and the single mix. Album version is 3:19, single mix is 4:21 and GH2 edit of the single mix is 4:17. So, what’s going on here? From 0:00 to 2:32 this matches the single mix and GH2 mix edit exactly. Then from 2:32 to 3:07 on the single mix (and GH2 edit) there is a synth instrumental, followed by Freddie singing the lyric “but life still goes on…”. This synth part is removed on the soundtrack version. The ending fades out like the GH2 edit. So basically, this is the GH2 single mix edit minus the section from 2:32 to 3:07. 14. Under Pressure: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 15. Who Wants To Live Forever: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 16-20. Live Aid performance: Nice to have this on CD, if only partially. It sounds like a new mix and isn’t as brickwalled as the DVD. It sounds great and we all know the performance is great. Hopefully we get the whole performance sometime. A Record Store Day release would be nice. 21. Don’t Stop Me Now… revisited: A new mix with new guitar parts from Brian, more in line with how the song is performed by Queen now. Someone hypothesized that the drums are made from Roger’s samples on the Spitfire program. Not sure if that is true or not. Regardless, I like the mix. It’s better than the Guitar Version from 2011 but not as good as the original. A good, aggressive alternative. 22. The Show Must Go On: Album Version – 2011 Remaster |
Apocalipsis_Darko 19.10.2018 13:05 |
Tim Staffel told me they used also multitracks of Queen version. |
Mrmarioanonym 19.10.2018 14:35 |
oh man, the autotune on Doing All Right is just awful. But it's certainly a nice curiosity. |
Mrmarioanonym 19.10.2018 14:38 |
Fat Bottomed Girls definitely has some rather heavy-handed pitch correction too (and again with the stadium drum sounds, guys). |
bucsateflon 19.10.2018 14:38 |
crappy mix made by Brian May and Justin Shirley-Smith, probably |
Golden Salmon 19.10.2018 14:38 |
Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) wrote: For anyone interested, my initial thoughts on the soundtrack… there are few unique song versions on here too (for those who care about such things). 1. 20th Century Fox Theme: This is a fun curiosity and the perfect way to start the soundtrack (and presumably the movie). Sounds really good with headphones. You’re not going to have this on heavy rotation, but again, it’s fun. 2. Somebody To Love: Album Version – 2011 remaster 3. Doing All Right… revisisted: This was the track I was most looking forward to. First verses sung by Roger. Middle verses are a mix of new Tim Staffell vocals followed by classic Tim Staffell vocals. Final verses sung by Brian, sounds double tracked. Instrumentally, it sounds like a mix of new performance with the classic Smile and Queen versions? I have to listen to this more closely to really get my head around it. Regardless of how it’s composited, I really think this one works. A highlight for me; I assume it will be for others on this forum as well? 4. Keep Yourself Alive (Live At The Rainbow 74): From the March ’74 concert. Judging by the time of 3:56, I assumed this was simply one of the edits that appeared on the 2014 US Hollywood Records promo CD. Of course, this isn’t the case. Another song version for you collectors out there! Details below: - Album (Fairy Feller ending): “I’ll tell you what, it’s time you all joined in, everybody. And I know you know the words to this one. All you’ve got to do is clap along, sing along the choruses. It’s called…. - Album (KYA intro): Keep Yourself Alive! - US Promo Single Version: “And I know you know the words to this one. All you’ve got to do is clap along, sing along the choruses. It’s called Keep Yourself Alive!” - Soundtrack Version: “I’ll tell you what, it’s time you all joined in, everybody. It’s called Keep Yourself Alive!” 5. Killer Queen: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 6. Fat Bottomed Girls (Live In Paris 79): This is from one of the three nights Queen played Paris in 1979 (definitely not night two, FBG wasn’t played that night). These three concerts ended the European Tour; the third of which was the longest Queen show ever. This is a fantastic performance, recording and mix. This will make everyone want a live Paris release. An unexpected highlight! 7. Bohemian Rhapsody: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 8. Now I’m Here (Live at the Hammersmith Odeon 1975): This version does not include Bob Harris’ intro. It goes from crowd noise straight into Brian’s guitar intro. This version ends after the big drum/guitar ending with some quick crowd noise. This is similar to the version used on the 2011 remaster Bonus EP, but not exactly the same. 9. Crazy Little Thing Called Love: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 10. Love Of My Life (Live at Rock In Rio): A version of this has been released before, on the US George Michael + Queen Somebody To Love cassette single. The cassette version and this soundtrack version are both from the same night. The cassette has a long monologue from Brian with the audience, along with Brian complimenting the audience throughout. For the soundtrack, all of Brian’s interactions with the audience have been removed. The outro on the cassette version goes on a bit longer well, with more banter from Freddie. 11. We Will Rock You (Movie Mix): From 0:00 to 0:51 it’s the album version. 0:52 to 2:09 is live, I believe from Earl’s Court. This is kind of weird, splitting the song like this. From the movie previews, I can see this working well for the purposes of the film, but it’s kind of weird on its own. 12. Another One Bites The Dust: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 13. I Want To Break Free: This is somewhat interesting, at 3:43 in length, this is a different version from both the album and the single mix. Album version is 3:19, single mix is 4:21 and GH2 edit of the single mix is 4:17. So, what’s going on here? From 0:00 to 2:32 this matches the single mix and GH2 mix edit exactly. Then from 2:32 to 3:07 on the single mix (and GH2 edit) there is a synth instrumental, followed by Freddie singing the lyric “but life still goes on…”. This synth part is removed on the soundtrack version. The ending fades out like the GH2 edit. So basically, this is the GH2 single mix edit minus the section from 2:32 to 3:07. 14. Under Pressure: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 15. Who Wants To Live Forever: Album Version – 2011 Remaster 16-20. Live Aid performance: Nice to have this on CD, if only partially. It sounds like a new mix and isn’t as brickwalled as the DVD. It sounds great and we all know the performance is great. Hopefully we get the whole performance sometime. A Record Store Day release would be nice. 21. Don’t Stop Me Now… revisited: A new mix with new guitar parts from Brian, more in line with how the song is performed by Queen now. Someone hypothesized that the drums are made from Roger’s samples on the Spitfire program. Not sure if that is true or not. Regardless, I like the mix. It’s better than the Guitar Version from 2011 but not as good as the original. A good, aggressive alternative. 22. The Show Must Go On: Album Version – 2011 RemasterGreat analysis! Thank you for this :-) By the way, I sent you a couple messages a while ago! I think PMs don't successfully go through over here. Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Tim Staffel told me they used also multitracks of Queen version.It does sound like they used both the Queen version multitracks and some parts from the original Smile version. |
Mrmarioanonym 19.10.2018 14:45 |
the most-obviously lifted part from the Queen I multitracks is the heavy guitar solo section (but with a new, sloppier solo replacing the old one). As for We Will Rock You, for obvious reasons it is not from Earls Court. It also has pitch correction artifacts and a just plain shitty mix. The guitar solo sounds flown-in from the studio take. I like the new guitar parts on Don't Stop Me Now, but the drum sound and the way the backing vocals are mixed are really awful. |
dudeofqueen 19.10.2018 15:18 |
Mrmarioanonym, re: >the autotune on Doing All Right is just awful. I don't think it's got anything to do with Autotune at all. It's designed to take the listener backwards and forwards (Through Time And Space......remember that absolutely awful DoRo video) and will probably sit over the top of a montage of shots taking the view back and forth through the band's career to perhaps set the scene for the deeper story. No? Well, I can't see any other valid reason for allowing the paying public to be in possession of such an incredibly carelessly cobbled together mash-up. If *THIS* is the best that Brian and Roger can create together given unlimited home studio time (and at least Brian has publicly expressed his happiness at the finished product!), then I sincerely hope that they don't venture in together again any time soon. You'd HOPE that Brian was commenting on a FULL new version of the song and that what was presented to Universal was then bastardised for the film, therefore taking blame for this sorry state of affairs away from "Smile" themselves. Dreadful, dreadful, dreadful. FBG from Paris '79 is a thing of complete and utter beauty, though....... |
cmi 19.10.2018 15:57 |
I wonder how Adam Unger, author of QueenVault.com, could make such a weird mistake: We Will Rock You in Earls Court 06/77 ? Really ? What we want from the movie with 'Fat Bottomed Girls' in the 1974 setlist then? Live Aid is from the same old probably 'on-the-fly' 1985 stereo mix. It seems there's no multitracks for this festival. |
Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) 19.10.2018 16:20 |
CMI - Because I made a mistake? That’s how it happened. |
la_ultra_zona 19.10.2018 16:46 |
Crappy 'retake' of DSMN. I'd stick to the Long Lost Guitars version. And also...why is Brian double tracked on Doin' All Right?? |
dysan 19.10.2018 17:40 |
Can I say that although it's great to have this FBG - I'm not THAT bothered by it live. Of course, within the context of LK it would fit fine, and I shall be placing it perfectly into my copy this evening. I'm glad people are enjoying this release. If you look at it like a min-anthology, it's quite pleasing. Some hits, some edits, some live, some re-recordings. I did notice the WWRY Earls Court thing in another thread (I don't think it was Adam originally) and I must say I kept quiet. Who knows, maybe there was a Crazy Tour show there that everyone has. Do we know where it comes from? Have I missed that? |
The Real Wizard 19.10.2018 17:48 |
dysan wrote: I did notice the WWRY Earls Court thing in another thread (I don't think it was Adam originally) and I must say I kept quiet. Who knows, maybe there was a Crazy Tour show there that everyone has. Do we know where it comes from? Have I missed that?The Live Killers tour. Almost certainly Paris 2-27-79, same as FBG. |
dysan 19.10.2018 18:05 |
Cool. Freddie's teeth are really getting in the way on that version. |
dysan 19.10.2018 18:29 |
Actually, since thinking this was like a mini anthology I've actually really enjoyed it. After a couple of listens the sometimes weird edits settle down. I wish they'd marked the drum solo in KYA as a separate track like on the original Rainbow release. NOT!!! |
Apocalipsis_Darko 19.10.2018 18:40 |
The real wizard is the expert. I hope, only for one time, Smile would play again and do it a concert. Like The Cross some years ago. Tim still sings well. Imagine...If I was a carpenter, April Lady, See what a Fool I've been, Step on me, Earth, Blag, Doing Alright, Polar Bear, Silver Salmon and some covers from Creem... |
dysan 19.10.2018 18:47 |
2Fux and Lucy? |
LucasDiego 19.10.2018 19:22 |
For those that have the CD, how is the booklet? More movie pictures or have some texts? |
blueroom 19.10.2018 20:10 |
I was looking forward to Doing All Right but it really is a mess. A weird mashup of the 1969 version and the new one (just listen to that "seamless" edit at 2:02), with terribly autotuned vocals on the new version. Quite disappointing. |
dysan 19.10.2018 20:22 |
It pains me to say it (and Doing All Right has never been a favourite of mine) but there will be a whole generation who will have this as their first version of it, and they'll eventually hear the Q1 version and not like it. |
Hitman 19.10.2018 21:23 |
thank you for your opinions! 1. 20th Century Fox Theme: it's the Queenest way to start this biopic about Freddie and the Band! On the footsteps of the Wedding March, i loved it and it was actually the track i was more curious about. (maybe some extra reverb for the guitars would have made it even better) 3. Doing All Right… revisisted: I have to digest it i must say, dysan said something it may happen with new generation of fans. There's a "glitch"(edit) indeed at 2.00 min but i cannot judge the track negatively, also because it probably has to match scenes.... it is certainly interesting. 4. Keep Yourself Alive (Live At The Rainbow 74): A great version, thanks for the report about the different speeches of the same song :) 6. Fat Bottomed Girls (Live In Paris 79): I totally agree with Adam's words: "This is a fantastic performance, recording and mix. This will make everyone want a live Paris release. An unexpected highlight!" 8. Now I’m Here (Live at the Hammersmith Odeon 1975): I'm not the bigest fan of Now i'm Here, even though live sounds better than the studio version. Good to hear this little gem in the movie OST 10. Love Of My Life (Live at Rock In Rio): thank you for the comparison with the music cassette, i didn't know about the diferences. The least sung "love of my life", i guess. it's all about Stadium karaoke here :) great atmosphere 11. We Will Rock You (Movie Mix): From 0:00 to 0:51 it’s the album version. 0:52 to 2:09 is live, I believe from Earl’s Court. This is kind of weird, splitting the song like this. From the movie previews, I can see this working well for the purposes of the film, but it’s kind of weird on its own. Yep, kind of weird, Freddie's live voice doesn't even sound much like him...the mix is strange. But still, it has to be listened and seen with the movie 13. I Want To Break Free: Another experiment we were probably not needing for :) 16-20. Live Aid performance: "Nice to have this on CD, if only partially". yep, but then i wonder: Probably "Is this the world we created..." suffers too much hisses and noises to be fixed? Or is it just another Queen production cruel decision to postpone this song for the next ultimate anthology? ;) 21. Don’t Stop Me Now… revisited: Interesting guitar addictions ideed, i love this song, any version i know (marc martel's too). Good that it was brought up live again in the last live tours. Now i just have to watch this movie. Some day, one day......Italy apparently will release it after everyone else.... |
The Real Wizard 19.10.2018 22:15 |
Hitman wrote: 11. We Will Rock You (Movie Mix): From 0:00 to 0:51 it’s the album version. 0:52 to 2:09 is live, I believe from Earl’s Court.It can't be Earls Court, as they hadn't written the song yet. It's from 1979. Very likely Paris 2-27, as it sonically matches FBG (other than the fake hand clapping, of course). |
runner_70 19.10.2018 22:51 |
Just proof that this movie will be all about bigging up maylor and putting Freddie's role down. More Brian and Roger on DSMN, more Brian songs, More Brian on DAR.this will be a mess |
Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) 19.10.2018 23:21 |
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Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) 19.10.2018 23:21 |
I’ll repeat again for everyone. I made an error. Obviously wwry wouldn’t be from Earls Court. My bad. I was thinking of something else and wrote wrong information. |
kohuept 20.10.2018 02:30 |
It especially couldn't be from Earls Court in the setting of the movie since WWRY wasn't written until about '82 :) (Sorry to bring that up again!) |
Nathan H 20.10.2018 07:41 |
For someone who hasn't heard Doing All Right before they'll probably really like it because they wouldn't realise that different parts of the song come other recordings. I quite like it but the start of the bridge and the start of heavy guitar doesn't quite work. |
dysan 20.10.2018 07:41 |
I know it goes against all rules of movie commerce, but perhaps they could've made this available after the film was out so we'd be more forgiving of the edits etc. Perhaps even a freebie when you buy a ticket for the movie. Would nicely bump up GH sales for the casual fan who might be waiting for the movie to hit Netflix but intrigued by the promo - but also encourage a lot more people to go to the picturehouse. |
dysan 20.10.2018 09:06 |
It's a shame the Chinese Torture effect is all over the Fanfare. Would've been nice as a 'raw' one like Procession / GSTQ |
SpaceGrey 20.10.2018 09:35 |
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Oscar J 20.10.2018 09:55 |
OK, needs more autotune though. Don't Stop Me Now is interesting. I definitely prefer the snare mix in this new version. |
splicksplack 20.10.2018 10:37 |
Is that pic meant to be Paul Prenter kissing Freddie????? I wasn't aware they had a thing. Thought they were just friends. And Freddie looks like he got tits. |
cmi 20.10.2018 11:05 |
LucasDiego wrote: For those that have the CD, how is the booklet? More movie pictures or have some texts?A lot of pictures from the movie inside the booklet. 2 pictures of Queen group (BoRhap 1975 and Live Aid 1985). 4 individual pictures of FM (LOMO 85), BM (Magic Tour 86), RT(SHA Tour 74), JD (Magic Tour 86) + credits |
SpaceGrey 20.10.2018 11:08 |
splicksplack wrote: Is that pic meant to be Paul Prenter kissing Freddie????? I wasn't aware they had a thing. Thought they were just friends. And Freddie looks like he got tits.If I am correctly remember somedy told that this Jim Hutton |
The Real Wizard 20.10.2018 16:49 |
runner_70 wrote: Just proof that this movie will be all about bigging up maylor and putting Freddie's role down. More Brian and Roger on DSMN, more Brian songs, More Brian on DAR.this will be a messThe soundtrack has 7 Freddie songs and 7 Brian songs. You also haven't seen the film yet. So maybe you need to readdress your definition of "proof". By your logic, the News Of The World album is a mess since there are 3 Freddie songs and 4 Brian songs. FOR SHAME. HOW DARE THEY. |
Fredfan 20.10.2018 17:07 |
do you think they will release a vinyl version? i dont have a CD player at all and find it hard to justify buying the CD even though it seems to be nice keepsake from the movie..... |
SpaceGrey 20.10.2018 18:30 |
splicksplack wrote: Is that pic meant to be Paul Prenter kissing Freddie????? I wasn't aware they had a thing. Thought they were just friends. And Freddie looks like he got tits.well,I would not be surprised if song somebody to love will be about the relationship of Prenter and Freddie. |
Holly2003 20.10.2018 18:52 |
The Real Wizard wrote:In fairness, it does seem a bit odd for Brian to try to improve DSMN. Firstly, it's Fred's song. Secondly, it does not need any additions: it's one of the UK's most popular songs. So it's like drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa. And to do it in such a sloppy, messy way is unforgivable. The drums don't even sound like they're in time with the rest of the song, and the extra guitar adds nothing. Pointless noodling really.runner_70 wrote: Just proof that this movie will be all about bigging up maylor and putting Freddie's role down. More Brian and Roger on DSMN, more Brian songs, More Brian on DAR.this will be a messThe soundtrack has 7 Freddie songs and 7 Brian songs. You also haven't seen the film yet. So maybe you need to readdress your definition of "proof". By your logic, the News Of The World album is a mess since there are 3 Freddie songs and 4 Brian songs. FOR SHAME. HOW DARE THEY. |
princetom 20.10.2018 21:38 |
according to "doing alright": i cannot figure it out (for health reasons... i'm quite kind of deaf by the moment *grrr*)... ) but... the double take on brian's vocals at the end of the tune: to me it seems as it wasn't brian on both of the tracks but for mr.staffell on one of them. can anybody confirm or deny that ? . otherwise.... i think that very track is THE hightlight of the album (should i say OST ?). a great opportunity. not by any means. mr. staffell told me the other day that there wasn't a session on which they played together, but some fractioned studio visits. nonetheless... it's a great song. it's another great approach to carry a certain mood. imho. and THAT could only be improved by having those three musicans playing live on stage. in person. together. *wishful thinking* |
vadenuez 20.10.2018 22:33 |
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princetom 20.10.2018 23:07 |
@vadenuez: your message seems to have been lost in time and space :-( |
The Real Wizard 20.10.2018 23:22 |
Holly2003 wrote: In fairness, it does seem a bit odd for Brian to try to improve DSMN. Firstly, it's Fred's song. Secondly, it does not need any additions: it's one of the UK's most popular songs. So it's like drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa. And to do it in such a sloppy, messy way is unforgivable. The drums don't even sound like they're in time with the rest of the song, and the extra guitar adds nothing. Pointless noodling really.Sure, fair enough. But to attach ill-intent to it in the form of suggesting that they're trying to minimize Freddie's contributions (when the entire film is clearly about him) is just plain unnecessary. |
The Real Wizard 20.10.2018 23:23 |
princetom wrote: mr. staffell told me the other day that there wasn't a session on which they played together, but some fractioned studio visits. nonetheless... it's a great song. it's another great approach to carry a certain mood. imho. and THAT could only be improved by having those three musicans playing live on stage. in person. together. *wishful thinking*If they can't get together for an afternoon recording session, then planning, rehearsing, and doing a gig seems pretty unlikely. |
tomchristie22 20.10.2018 23:32 |
I’m just confused as to how the Doin All Right recording is gonna function within the movie. They’re not gonna try and play it off as the audio of Smile playing in 68/69 are they? The recording itself couldn’t sound more modern and digital, and the voices are clearly those of sixty year old men. It’d come across completely absurd. Really, why couldn’t they have used the Smile recording? Clean it up a bit, make a quasi stereo mix with EQ separation... the sound quality doesn’t need to be perfect if it’s meant to represent a live performance, and either way it’s a far preferable arrangement to this new one, so it’s gonna sound plenty better (and more accurate to the time) on the whole. |
Holly2003 21.10.2018 10:35 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Possibly. In a Classic Rock piece last month Brian said DSMN has been updated to reflect how they play it now. It's odd then if the film is about Fred that he would bother with this. I wonder if they had planned for some sort of Queen+AL moment at the film's end. Even the song suggests some kind of post-Fred triumphant return for Queen(+).Holly2003 wrote: In fairness, it does seem a bit odd for Brian to try to improve DSMN. Firstly, it's Fred's song. Secondly, it does not need any additions: it's one of the UK's most popular songs. So it's like drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa. And to do it in such a sloppy, messy way is unforgivable. The drums don't even sound like they're in time with the rest of the song, and the extra guitar adds nothing. Pointless noodling really.Sure, fair enough. But to attach ill-intent to it in the form of suggesting that they're trying to minimize Freddie's contributions (when the entire film is clearly about him) is just plain unnecessary. |
dysan 21.10.2018 10:51 |
Judging by the tracklist (it clearly follows the film narrative - even with FBG out of place chronologically) after live aid I'm thinking a 'and the legend lived on...' DSMN sequence with us being brought right up to date featuring real footage up to 2018. It would work I guess (like the AL bits in the NOTW film) but not convinced it's necessary. Borat did hint at the second half of the film dealing with how they overcame Freddie's death. |
tomchristie22 21.10.2018 21:24 |
God I hope they don’t do that... |
bucsateflon 22.10.2018 07:27 |
I trust BM and RT to do the right thing |
Viper 22.10.2018 10:30 |
I don't trust them! |
RS_Protos 22.10.2018 16:55 |
is there a hidden track after show must go on? was listening to full cd on youtube. |
Joeker 22.10.2018 17:46 |
Remember when George Lucas "improved" the original Star Wars trilogy? Yeah..... |
Nathan H 22.10.2018 18:18 |
The soundtrack is currently number four in the midweek charts: https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/ |
Hitman 22.10.2018 22:19 |
I'm happy the Soundtrack is doing well in charts. I'm sorry for the typo i copied earlier about Earl's Court (it could not be of course, Adam also agreed). Of course i invite everybody not to give judgements before watching the movie. I don't think there is any intention of reforming Smile, the work done in studio was just made in order to tell the prequeen era in the movie. I'd like to add that Doing alright from Tim's album Amigo (featuring Brian) is certainly a good version of the song. What if they had used this version (adding/changing maybe some lines to let Roger sing)? After some more listening i can't complain with the new version, though. About the fanfare, it's a matter of tastes. I love the way it was performed in the first track. There's never enough harmonizer (the chinese torture thing) for me! (and as i said, i would have made it even more solemn and pompous ;) cheers! |
NastyQueenie74 22.10.2018 22:25 |
Hitman wrote: I'd like to add that Doing alright from Tim's album Amigo (featuring Brian) is certainly a good version of the song. What if they had used this version (adding/changing maybe some lines to let Roger sing)?But that version is drastically different musically from all the other versions |
Biggest Band On The Planet 22.10.2018 22:46 |
The soundtrack is also available in high res audio. link |
Hitman 22.10.2018 23:16 |
Thanks "biggest band"! Where are my AKG headphones!?? edit: not available (in my country, yet) it's true, NastyQueenie, the version from Amigo is a slightly different approach, so (probably) it wouldn't fit in the 70s moment of movie. It was just an idea as i quite enjoy it! |
The Real Wizard 23.10.2018 02:07 |
Holly2003 wrote:I sure hope not.The Real Wizard wrote:Possibly. In a Classic Rock piece last month Brian said DSMN has been updated to reflect how they play it now. It's odd then if the film is about Fred that he would bother with this. I wonder if they had planned for some sort of Queen+AL moment at the film's end. Even the song suggests some kind of post-Fred triumphant return for Queen(+).Holly2003 wrote: In fairness, it does seem a bit odd for Brian to try to improve DSMN. Firstly, it's Fred's song. Secondly, it does not need any additions: it's one of the UK's most popular songs. So it's like drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa. And to do it in such a sloppy, messy way is unforgivable. The drums don't even sound like they're in time with the rest of the song, and the extra guitar adds nothing. Pointless noodling really.Sure, fair enough. But to attach ill-intent to it in the form of suggesting that they're trying to minimize Freddie's contributions (when the entire film is clearly about him) is just plain unnecessary. If Lambert were mentioned in the film, they would've used a live version from last year. Pretty sure the film ends after Live Aid. |
dysan 23.10.2018 08:23 |
I wonder if the real Queen come on at the end, like at the end of Yellow Submarine? |
aristide1 23.10.2018 08:53 |
It's a curious choice to use 2011 remasters for BR, CLTCL and AOBTD instead of existing surround versions. They should have taken full advantage of the audio format by mixing as much as possible to surround, at least the tracks revisited specially for the movie. Maybe they already did that and the CD contains some stereo downimxes of the actual soundtrack. |
dysan 23.10.2018 09:05 |
I guess we'll be getting some DVD rips once the DVD is out. However for a movie, the music generally remains stereo, the rest of the image filled out with dialogue and background / crowd noise. |
aristide1 23.10.2018 10:29 |
Yes, incidental music is stereo, but a movie about music needs a sound design not a stack of tracks. Like the cinematography of a movie about a painter. |
cmsdrums 23.10.2018 13:57 |
Gripe from me about the booklet of the soundtrack CD.... The film primarily focuses on a timeline ending in 1985. Open up the booklet and you’ll see a picture of each band member - John and Brian pics taken from the Magic Tour in 86 (is outsude this period). The Freddie pic is from 85 and not a live pic but a publicity pic or possibly a still from a solo promo video, and the Roger one is from a totally different era band-wise and seems to be around 74/75. In addition, each pic is pretty uninspired and not very exciting, and due to the points above they just seem ‘thrown in’ and totally randomly selected with no theme or focus. I’m well aware this will be uninteresting and deemed irrelevant to many, but it frustrates me all the same! |
dysan 23.10.2018 14:28 |
'Yes, incidental music is stereo, but a movie about music needs a sound design not a stack of tracks.' That would make sense yes. But no. |
Golden Salmon 23.10.2018 16:26 |
cmsdrums wrote: Gripe from me about the booklet of the soundtrack CD.... The film primarily focuses on a timeline ending in 1985. Open up the booklet and you’ll see a picture of each band member - John and Brian pics taken from the Magic Tour in 86 (is outsude this period). The Freddie pic is from 85 and not a live pic but a publicity pic or possibly a still from a solo promo video, and the Roger one is from a totally different era band-wise and seems to be around 74/75. In addition, each pic is pretty uninspired and not very exciting, and due to the points above they just seem ‘thrown in’ and totally randomly selected with no theme or focus. I’m well aware this will be uninteresting and deemed irrelevant to many, but it frustrates me all the same!Safe to say this is not the elaborate product it could have been. |
aristide1 23.10.2018 16:28 |
Well, sound design alone is nothing without an intelligent production design. I mean a soundtrack played by veteran artists involved in Queen tribute projects, like McAuley, Impellitteri, Kulick, Roth, Phillips, Schellen, LaBrie, Friedman, Franklin, Appice, Adam, Petrucci, Aldridge, Sato, Sherwood, Singer, Shortino, Laurent, Krieger, Kilmister, Nugent, Hughes, Lee, Boals, Malmsteen, Bouillet, Bush, Ian, Throne, Vera, Zander, Thomas, Turner, Tate, Nelson, Blades, Scheff, Winger, Hughes, Shaw, Russel etc. They are not Queen, and Malek is not Mercury, so the matching could have been perfect. |
dysan 23.10.2018 16:49 |
Has anyone seen the new clip of the chap layering up all the put me in the movie clips? |
RobbyBloodshed 23.10.2018 17:05 |
dysan wrote: Has anyone seen the new clip of the chap layering up all the put me in the movie clips?Yes....kinda disappointed after watching it. I feel I will still absolutely love the movie, but I wish they didn’t use Marc Martel’s voice for the climax of the movie. I know they don’t have the individual tracks from Live Aid, but still. I’d rather hear a little less clear of a mix than someone who’s not Freddie sing the most iconic set ever. link It is what it is, I’ll still love it I’m sure.. |
dysan 23.10.2018 17:15 |
I was more concerned with individual voices they played - girls doing that terrible millennial drawling singing that you get on every Christmas advert these days. They seem to think putting on that voice makes them a singer. Anyway, the overall effect was nice I thought. |
bucsateflon 23.10.2018 17:35 |
no millennial snowflake gonna know the difference |
dysan 23.10.2018 17:38 |
As I said earlier - I think we'll be getting audio rips from the DVD once it's out as I'm guessing most of the actual soundtrack will be markedly different. |
cmsdrums 23.10.2018 18:00 |
dysan wrote: Has anyone seen the new clip of the chap layering up all the put me in the movie clips?Yup....complete with Mr Martel on the Live Aid Bo Rhap audio! |
kosimodo 23.10.2018 18:18 |
I suspect the movie is at least dolby surround 5.1 stereo: when in the cinema, you expect the audience behind and with you.. and the band playing on stage... or? The audience at live aid sounds imho much clearer on youtube then on dvd. I expect to be overwhelmed by the sound in the cinema.. or? |
jozef 25.10.2018 15:53 |
The album has a very good sound ... |
dysan 25.10.2018 17:11 |
Super! Nice pictures on the back of the booklet. Could you take pictures of the interior? |
Penetration_Guru 26.10.2018 12:55 |
Listened to the newly-released tracks. Doing All Right is a cleaner recording, but a whole lot less "warm". I'd rather the three of them had tried recording something new in that time, and use the original on the soundtrack. WWRY mix - ewww. I'm sure it works in the context of the film, but the transition jars horribly on an audio-only basis DSMN is entirely predictable, adding more guitar and squeezing out as much of Freddie as could be salvaged from the fadeout. It's not better, it's not even just different - for better or worse the original is definitive, I'd have agreed with Brian that some guitar low in the mix would probably have worked, but the moment passed and now he's trying to overcompensate by sticking fills in all over it. Live Aid? I'll pop the DVD on and enjoy it from there. "new to CD" is not a significant sales point anymore, QPL... In short - listened, won't be buying. |
KevoM 08.11.2018 13:12 |
Being an 'OST' I would expect the movie versions of the songs as sung by that Martel Mercury mimic. Is this not the case? |
bas 11.11.2018 14:44 |
I'm not too fond of the new Doing All Right… revisisted version. I would've prefered if they had chosen the Smile original or even a version that has the Smile recording in the fist half and the Queen recording in the second. I know that would be a bit odd, but this version on the cd seems even more strange to my ears. Ans I'm with someone who said here before, that you can hear that the singers are all men in their late 60's / early 70's. Not young men anymore. |