QueenZone discussion #1518355

Kuijpy wrote: Ohnoooo, all those members who were angry on him are now in the frontline to hug him, cause he gets 4 demo's from Jazz....

Kuijpy wrote: The Queen/BoRhap movie soudtrack... hmm let me guess.. 01. Bohemian Rhapsody 02. Killer Queen 03. Another One Bites The Dust 04. Radio Ga Ga 05. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 06. Dont Stop Me Now 07. Under Pressure 08. Keep Yourself Alive 09. We Will Rock You 10. We Are The Champions 11. Somebody To Love 12. Fat Bottomed Girls 13. I Want To Break Free 14. Keep Yourself Alive

Kuijpy wrote: The Queen/BoRhap movie soudtrack... hmm let me guess.. 01. Bohemian Rhapsody 02. Killer Queen 03. Another One Bites The Dust 04. Radio Ga Ga 05. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 06. Dont Stop Me Now 07. Under Pressure 08. Keep Yourself Alive 09. We Will Rock You 10. We Are The Champions 11. Somebody To Love 12. Fat Bottomed Girls 13. I Want To Break Free 14. Keep Yourself Alive

cmi wrote: "new music from the forthcoming Bohemian Rhapsody Official Soundtrack album" means that there might be something unheard...

john bodega wrote: "Autotune was one thing" I'm still fucking angry about the Rainbow DVD to be honest.

tomchristie22 wrote: ‘Negative arseholes’ - is anyone who doesn’t blindly worship what’s put out by QPL a negative arsehole? The fact is, there’s a great deal wrong with the way audio production is handled on these releases. Things like drum triggers, hard compression, and pitch correction are ubiquitous in modern pop music, a genre of music I’m sure many of us here don’t care much for. That’s one thing, but it’s another entirely to callously insert those techniques into a recording from 1974, with the aim of ‘improving’ it. It’s absurd, makes for awful listening, and completely compromises the release’s validity as a historical document. It’s just a lack of respect for the listeners, and indeed for the integrity of the original recordings. Take the Beatles Hollywood Bowl reissue. John and Paul are both in fairly rough voice on many songs - they hit a couple of clunkers here and there, but overall the rawness is a big part of those recordings’ appeal. Can you imagine if the Beatles’ restoration people had dared put autotune on those vocals, or subbed in bad drum samples? It’s unimaginable, and that’s because their people are professional, and maintain a high standard in what they release. Nothing about the handling of QPL’s catalogue strikes me as professional (not least the fact that someone like Greg Brooks remains on the payroll, despite apparent complete lack of qualification or professional conduct).

The Fairy King wrote:

tomchristie22 wrote: ‘Negative arseholes’ - is anyone who doesn’t blindly worship what’s put out by QPL a negative arsehole? The fact is, there’s a great deal wrong with the way audio production is handled on these releases. Things like drum triggers, hard compression, and pitch correction are ubiquitous in modern pop music, a genre of music I’m sure many of us here don’t care much for. That’s one thing, but it’s another entirely to callously insert those techniques into a recording from 1974, with the aim of ‘improving’ it. It’s absurd, makes for awful listening, and completely compromises the release’s validity as a historical document. It’s just a lack of respect for the listeners, and indeed for the integrity of the original recordings. Take the Beatles Hollywood Bowl reissue. John and Paul are both in fairly rough voice on many songs - they hit a couple of clunkers here and there, but overall the rawness is a big part of those recordings’ appeal. Can you imagine if the Beatles’ restoration people had dared put autotune on those vocals, or subbed in bad drum samples? It’s unimaginable, and that’s because their people are professional, and maintain a high standard in what they release. Nothing about the handling of QPL’s catalogue strikes me as professional (not least the fact that someone like Greg Brooks remains on the payroll, despite apparent complete lack of qualification or professional conduct).

Spot on. The restoration thing always seems a bit hypocritical to me from QP, as Brian (especially) doesn't let an interview go by without mentioning playing to 'no clicks' and being 'dangerous'.

tomchristie22 wrote: ‘Negative arseholes’ - is anyone who doesn’t blindly worship what’s put out by QPL a negative arsehole? The fact is, there’s a great deal wrong with the way audio production is handled on these releases. Things like drum triggers, hard compression, and pitch correction are ubiquitous in modern pop music, a genre of music I’m sure many of us here don’t care much for. That’s one thing, but it’s another entirely to callously insert those techniques into a recording from 1974, with the aim of ‘improving’ it. It’s absurd, makes for awful listening, and completely compromises the release’s validity as a historical document. It’s just a lack of respect for the listeners, and indeed for the integrity of the original recordings. Take the Beatles Hollywood Bowl reissue. John and Paul are both in fairly rough voice on many songs - they hit a couple of clunkers here and there, but overall the rawness is a big part of those recordings’ appeal. Can you imagine if the Beatles’ restoration people had dared put autotune on those vocals, or subbed in bad drum samples? It’s unimaginable, and that’s because their people are professional, and maintain a high standard in what they release. Nothing about the handling of QPL’s catalogue strikes me as professional (not least the fact that someone like Greg Brooks remains on the payroll, despite apparent complete lack of qualification or professional conduct).

Vocal harmony wrote:

tomchristie22 wrote: ‘Negative arseholes’ - is anyone who doesn’t blindly worship what’s put out by QPL a negative arsehole? The fact is, there’s a great deal wrong with the way audio production is handled on these releases. Things like drum triggers, hard compression, and pitch correction are ubiquitous in modern pop music, a genre of music I’m sure many of us here don’t care much for. That’s one thing, but it’s another entirely to callously insert those techniques into a recording from 1974, with the aim of ‘improving’ it. It’s absurd, makes for awful listening, and completely compromises the release’s validity as a historical document. It’s just a lack of respect for the listeners, and indeed for the integrity of the original recordings. Take the Beatles Hollywood Bowl reissue. John and Paul are both in fairly rough voice on many songs - they hit a couple of clunkers here and there, but overall the rawness is a big part of those recordings’ appeal. Can you imagine if the Beatles’ restoration people had dared put autotune on those vocals, or subbed in bad drum samples? It’s unimaginable, and that’s because their people are professional, and maintain a high standard in what they release. Nothing about the handling of QPL’s catalogue strikes me as professional (not least the fact that someone like Greg Brooks remains on the payroll, despite apparent complete lack of qualification or professional conduct).

^^^ yes. There seem to be a number of yes men working for the band and the management. I'm sure Brian and Roger like the comfortable feeling of familiar faces and the security that feeling everyone's on side brings. However it's usually when someone raises questions that progress is made, I don't think hats happened since 1979/80 has far as the Queen machine goes.

Chinwonder2 wrote: So... what about the rest of us who can’t afford trips like this? :/ -Chin

Vali wrote:

Chinwonder2 wrote: So... what about the rest of us who can’t afford trips like this? :/ -Chin

yeah ... it's ridiculous. The sad thing is that at least half of the people attending the event don't give a shit about the stuff and spent most part of the time talking while these gems are played. I'd like them to explain the logic behind this. It's OK for some lucky ones to show them these rarities for free, but it's not ok to show them for, I'd say, thousand of fans around the world willing to pay for it, even on digital form. Pretty weird, for a "dangerous" band like Queen.

rockchic65 wrote:

Vali wrote:

Chinwonder2 wrote: So... what about the rest of us who can’t afford trips like this? :/ -Chin

yeah ... it's ridiculous. The sad thing is that at least half of the people attending the event don't give a shit about the stuff and spent most part of the time talking while these gems are played. I'd like them to explain the logic behind this. It's OK for some lucky ones to show them these rarities for free, but it's not ok to show them for, I'd say, thousand of fans around the world willing to pay for it, even on digital form. Pretty weird, for a "dangerous" band like Queen.

Maybe they plan to share it officially after the convention.

rockchic65 wrote: Maybe they plan to share it officially after the convention.

popopop830214 wrote: "a few inconsiderate (some might say selfish) people" Aren't the people who are being selfish the ones who possess a gold mine of never-before-heard recordings and choose to keep them locked tight for themselves, rather than share them with the rest of the world (a great number of whom would pay good money to hear them)?

Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: They had the idea to publish an anthology (Tim Staffell told me, it would include Smile songs) but later refused to focus on WWRY musical. What a shame!

mooghead wrote: "Back in the 90s i was really looking forward to an anthology set" "they were well into planning an anthology boxset in the mid-late 1990s" Bollocks. The Beatles anthonoly was phenominal. Everyone (ie.. the 62 people here) said they want one. Apparently it bacame a 'thing'. People are still talking about it now. Will people please stop using the word 'anthology' Even if we got them the miserable fuckers here would still cry.

mooghead wrote: NO! I will only calm down after an anthology of responses ask me to calm down... Then we need still to be talking about my calming down anthology thread in 15 years time...

Queenman!! wrote: What amazes me is the lack of transparency between of QUeen camp and the fans. For years the fans are told there is nothing special in the vaults and only a few gems exist, which we don’t know and only guess. Several websites developed by Queenfans described about the unheard songs and demo’s and nothing is really confirmed from QP. Then suddenly a new of the world cd (cd 3 from the box set) appears with outtakes and demo’s on the market . What are they thinking: ? Dumb ass fans forget What we told them in the past.

matt z wrote: Someone probably took selfies in front of GB "AS HE"S PLAYING AN UNRELEASED TRACK" but no audio, and prob TOTALLY unfamiliar with the work...

Kevinrm15 wrote: October 19th

cmsdrums wrote: Looks like QPL has got their wish that these are kept so secret that no- one will admit to having heard them or relay any info about them. I suppose it was a smart move playing them a convention when most of those in attendance are more bothered about discussing Freddie's HIV diagnosis or dressing up as a penguin than they are about hearing the musical gems.

dudeofqueen wrote: dysan, re: >I'm not sure I believe that Why? The source is a massive fan - not your wishy-washy Glambert type and has an extensive knowledge / history. I'd trust that opinion over ANY on this site. Besides, left-overs from a relatively limp album aren't likely to be too overly exciting IMVHO.

dysan wrote: I think they played DSMN extra guitar version but with no guitar

brians wig wrote: Let me Entertain You (instrumantal takes) Bicycle Race FBG Mustapha (inst takes) Dead On Time (inst) If You Can't Beat Them (alternate lyrics) Fun It (ALL Roger vocal) Jelaousy Don't Stop Me Now

brians wig wrote: What do you mean "source?", Golden Salmon? The source is me. I was there.

brians wig wrote: Someone did ask what the point was in archiving everything and what plans did QPL have and the answer was still some kind of release at some point. Apparantly it took them 8 months to do the demos disc on the NOTW boxset. The problem seems to be that even after 18 years of being Archivist, GB hasn't done detailed reports on each tape, so when they get pulled out to look at for possible transfer, that tape still needs to be listened to, one track at a time and notes made for content! We'll be here til next bloody centuary at this rate.

brians wig wrote: Let me Entertain You (instrumantal takes) Bicycle Race FBG Mustapha (inst takes) Dead On Time (inst) If You Can't Beat Them (alternate lyrics) Fun It (ALL Roger vocal) Jelaousy Don't Stop Me Now

The Fairy King wrote:

brians wig wrote: The problem seems to be that even after 18 years of being Archivist, GB hasn't done detailed reports on each tape, so when they get pulled out to look at for possible transfer, that tape still needs to be listened to, one track at a time and notes made for content! We'll be here til next bloody centuary at this rate.

So, basically what you are saying s that GB is incompetent? ;)

The Fairy King wrote: So, basically what you are saying s that GB is incompetent? ;)

mike hunt wrote: If it didn't happen in 1999 It probably won't happen at all..Maybe In 2021, 50 year anniversary of the band.

dysan wrote: 'Apparently it took them 8 months to do the demos disc on the NOTW boxset' Sample: 'Hi Brian, did you get my message a month ago about the NOTW demos? Did you get a chance to have a listen? Cheers, G 'Hi G, sorry I did get the rapidshare link but it didn't work on my Nokia? B' 'Ah OK B that might mean the link has expired. I'll ask my mate who works in IT as it might be your browser cheers G' 'Hi again B sorry for the delay. Apparently you need to try on a PC as the files won't download on your Nokia' 'Hi Brian did you try the link on a PC?' 'Hi B did you try the link?' 'Hi G - Anita says rapidshare no longer works could you send it to me on an acetate?' 'Hi B - no problem. As I've already transferred the analogue tapes into cassette so making mp3s to put them on a minidisc and get put onto acetate for you. I'll look into it' 'Hi thanks for your message - I am currently on tour and will be back in 2 months. If it's urgent badger related stuff please write to Chris@badgerstrust.co.uk B'

bucsateflon wrote: is on youtube... "Doing alright" sounds like a mix of old and new recording mixed in leisurely manner "Live Aid" sounds much better than before like a 8/10 too bad the guitar is in mono...