Togg 22.06.2018 13:39 |
I don't tend to follow too closely the bootleg stuff, I'm curious as to any tracks we know the band worked on that have NEVER seen the light of day? I don't mean leaked studio tapes etc, I mean anything we know about but have never heard at all? |
NastyQueenie74 22.06.2018 14:23 |
The studio recording of Hangman |
Golden Salmon 22.06.2018 15:02 |
A quote from Rhys Thomas ("Days Of Our Lives", "The Great Pretender" documentaries director, among other things) from five years ago, regarding whether he had heard any new rarities while going through old material:
"I haven't really. Well, apart from another song by Bowie and Queen called 'I Don't Want To Be A Rolling Stone.' It's stunning. It was later re-worked to become 'I Go Crazy.' It's good as 'Under Pressure.' It would have been a great follow up single. "Interestingly, this comment was deleted later on from that reddit AMA. Also, Ratty (long-time roadie and "Queen Unseen" book author) mentioned that in the sessions leading to writing "Under Pressure", they got to play and presumably record many covers, such as "All The Young Dudes" and "All The Way From Memphis" among others. Source. Certainly, there were other tracks recorded with Queen and Bowie, and Freddie singing, which were never released. Pretty raw, but original material definitely. They were just incredibly spontaneous, good musicians. “I can categorically say I know that there were complete tracks, not mixed tracks, but fully formed songs that were done. Does it belong to the David Bowie estate or to Queen? That’s probably part of the reason these things have never come to light.”Around the time Bowie died, Brian said that they had recorded a lot of material nobody knows about. I read something recently too about a sort of super song (or was it a super-band?) written by several or all members of Queen along with other world-famous artists that never saw the light of day. I don't really remember the context, but I found out about that a few months ago. |
emrabt 22.06.2018 15:28 |
Rod Stewart has said in the past that He, Elton and Freddie recorded some stuff together, I'm not sure if this was the same time as the original Let Me Live was done or later. Giorgio Moroder's original song called Love Kills, before Freddie Replaced it with the Version he worked on. A couple of Phantom of the Opera tracks. |
Biggus Dickus 22.06.2018 15:45 |
I guess Queen (Jim Beach) thinks there's no use of releasing any rare tracks as people don't buy records anymore, so there's no profit to be made out of the songs. Maybe they should put a couple of the unreleased interesting pieces of music in the middle of a big enpensive otherwise worthless box set so they could "force" the fans to buy all of that just for the couple of tracks. Oh silly me, they did that already. :D |
dave76 22.06.2018 15:51 |
Let's Make Love, Wooly Hat... |
Ale Solan 22.06.2018 15:57 |
emrabt wrote: Rod Stewart has said in the past that He, Elton and Freddie recorded some stuff together, I'm not sure if this was the same time as the original Let Me Live was done or later. Giorgio Moroder's original song called Love Kills, before Freddie Replaced it with the Version he worked on. A couple of Phantom of the Opera tracks.Love Kills features all 4 Queen members, not just Freddie. |
The Real Wizard 22.06.2018 16:58 |
emrabt wrote: Rod Stewart has said in the past that He, Elton and Freddie recorded some stuff together, I'm not sure if this was the same time as the original Let Me Live was done or later.I always thought the "teeth, nose and hair" thing was a joke, not an actual band or even a session together. |
pietrek 22.06.2018 17:13 |
I recall some discussion about the entirely different "Love Kills" written by Roger during the Works sessions, completely unrelated to Moroder's and Freddie's track. Does anybody remember that? I'm 100% sure it was mentioned somewhere. |
emrabt 22.06.2018 17:18 |
The Real Wizard wrote: I always thought the "teeth, nose and hair" thing was a joke, not an actual band or even a session together.Maybe, he said a lot of alcohol was consumed to come up with the name, which does make it sound like a drunken night at Freddies with his tape recorder more than anything in a studio. Love KillsThe one i'm talking about is a completely different song to the "Love kills - Drills you through your heart" one. This one has it's lyrics in the Metropolise album sleeve: If you had kept your eyes wide open You might have stood at least a chance You could have taken some precaution Least you'd had a second glance Love is lethal, love's a crime Love is fatal, love's a tyrant Love is murder, love destroys Love won't stop until Love kills Love hides and waits within your feelings It's full of cloak and dagger style And always ready without warning To sentence you without a trial Love is lethal, love's a crime Love is fatal, love's a tyrant Love is murder, love destroys Love holds on until Love kills So now you're staring at the future But you can't take along the past And emptiness, that silver bullet Slams and tears right through your heart |
emrabt 22.06.2018 17:22 |
There's also a song apparently written by Freddie for a fan in a coma, who was burried with the tape, apparently called "Keep on smiling". I've only seen this mentioned in one book, Parragon's "They Died Too Young" series by Simon Boyce, so take the story with a Pinch of salt, It's also possible it's the "keep smiling" thing we all know. |
Ale Solan 22.06.2018 19:33 |
emrabt wrote: There's also a song apparently written by Freddie for a fan in a coma, who was burried with the tape, apparently called "Keep on smiling". I've only seen this mentioned in one book, Parragon's "They Died Too Young" series by Simon Boyce, so take the story with a Pinch of salt, It's also possible it's the "keep smiling" thing we all know.It is the Keep Smilin' track featured on the Solo Collection. |
emrabt 22.06.2018 19:54 |
Thought it might have been, scratch that one then, it's been released. |
Chopin1995 22.06.2018 21:11 |
emrabt wrote: A couple of Phantom of the Opera tracks.Peter Freestone said that Freddie never recorded those tracks. |
emrabt 22.06.2018 21:19 |
Damn the myths! |
gran rey rata 23.06.2018 01:10 |
The Queen Version of "Man On Fire", and "Victory" |
OhioMustapha 23.06.2018 01:23 |
There is a compilation bootleg of rare recordings like these: Dead On Time: Japan 81 Loser In The End: Edinburgh 76 Man On The Prowl: North Korea 1984 Cool Cat: Moscow 1982 Jealousy: Montevideo 1983 |
NastyQueenie74 23.06.2018 03:40 |
OhioMustapha wrote: There is a compilation bootleg of rare recordings like these: Dead On Time: Japan 81 Loser In The End: Edinburgh 76 Man On The Prowl: North Korea 1984 Cool Cat: Moscow 1982 Jealousy: Montevideo 1983Unlike here, serious tags apply to thread comments on Reddit |
OhioMustapha 23.06.2018 04:27 |
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musicland munich 23.06.2018 04:50 |
John Deacon's and Errol Brown's " This Is Your Time" John mentioned it during an interview - never saw the day of light - not even a sample for the hoarders. Come on John...loose another USB stick on a London sidewalk ;) |
Anton3283 24.06.2018 06:17 |
Let's make love from A Kind Of Magic |
Anton3283 24.06.2018 06:31 |
Let's make love from A Kind Of Magic nobody knows about this song but I know, I've listened to but rights holders have forbidden to publish anywhere. this is the only song written by Freddie contained undisguised homosexual hints and the rest of the band were clearly not delighted with this song, although they were actively singing along. |
scottmax 24.06.2018 08:08 |
^^^^^^^^^^ wow |
dave76 24.06.2018 16:21 |
Anton3283 wrote: Let's make love from A Kind Of Magic nobody knows about this song but I know, I've listened to but rights holders have forbidden to publish anywhere. this is the only song written by Freddie contained undisguised homosexual hints and the rest of the band were clearly not delighted with this song, although they were actively singing along.You're not the only one. I always thought it sounded more like from The Works sessions. So nobody knows about this song is not true. I know some people who have also heard it. Strange that it isn't documented anywhere. I would like to read some more info on it. |
Ale Solan 24.06.2018 20:56 |
dave76 wrote:Anton3283 wrote: Let's make love from A Kind Of Magic nobody knows about this song but I know, I've listened to but rights holders have forbidden to publish anywhere. this is the only song written by Freddie contained undisguised homosexual hints and the rest of the band were clearly not delighted with this song, although they were actively singing along.You're not the only one. I always thought it sounded more like from The Works sessions. So nobody knows about this song is not true. I know some people who have also heard it. Strange that it isn't documented anywhere. I would like to read some more info on it. |
Seed_Of_Rhy 25.06.2018 12:27 |
Read an info somewhere that "Let's make love" it's actually "Love Makin Love", that demo from solo collection which said was intended for Kind of Magic album and/or Highlander Movie (OST?). But it seems to my that there is a misrepresented piece of info somewhere,,,maybe there are 2 songs with similar titles. Or the one is predates the other, being the previous version of the same song. And takin' it back to the topic, For me most anticipated of unreleased tracks is "It's Christmas (All over the World Tonight). Hope the wiki info is trus and Freddie had recorded a full-lyric demo of this one. |
pietrek 25.06.2018 13:42 |
"Let's make love from A Kind Of Magic nobody knows about this song but I know" Nobody knows about this song because it doesn't exist. |
dave76 25.06.2018 13:48 |
Trust me. It does. |
dave76 25.06.2018 13:48 |
It hasn't been released yet and i doubt if it ever will. Let's Make Love could be the working title. Not the Love Makin' Love from The Very Best Of FM Solo set. It sounds like an outtake from The Works or A Kind Of Magic. It's Freddie at the piano and drums and bass. There's no guitars. |
pietrek 25.06.2018 14:55 |
@dave, check PM |
la_ultra_zona 25.06.2018 22:26 |
Maybe I'll ask for There must be more to life than this NOT mixed by a def guy. |
Chopin1995 26.06.2018 10:51 |
Dream Of Christmas ? |
MisterCosmicc 27.06.2018 04:31 |
I pray somehow ‘In Search Of Love’ was recorded and exists somewhere and that someday we’ll hear it. The lyrics sit in a museum! |
dysan 27.06.2018 06:52 |
You think they would've trawled all this stuff for MIH rather than butchering previously released songs. |
no_stairway 27.06.2018 10:15 |
is this piece from "Let's make love"? |
dysan 27.06.2018 11:17 |
I wish Cape Ring would return to Grand Turismo. |
The Ghost of Lester Burnham 27.06.2018 15:48 |
no_stairway wrote: is this piece from "Let's make love"?Very cool, no_stairway – it certainly sounds like Freddie, even if the recording sounds like it was recorded on a potato! Thanks for posting this. |
The Real Wizard 27.06.2018 16:17 |
pietrek wrote: "Let's make love from A Kind Of Magic nobody knows about this song but I know" Nobody knows about this song because it doesn't exist.Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. |
The Real Wizard 27.06.2018 16:23 |
no_stairway wrote: is this piece from "Let's make love"?Well, that didn't take long. Are the players involved going to explain how this suddenly popped up? |
dave76 27.06.2018 17:27 |
That is indeed the "Let's Make Love" demo. The full version is over 4 minutes long. But there is more than what the band make us believe. |
pietrek 27.06.2018 18:10 |
"Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. " I think there's a fair reason not to believe a guy with 30 posts suddenly coming up with never-heard-before titles. Most of the demos, even those owned by respected collectors are well-documented on various websites. |
The Real Wizard 27.06.2018 19:47 |
pietrek wrote: I think there's a fair reason not to believe a guy with 30 posts suddenly coming up with never-heard-before titles.In recent years, rare studio material tends to leak from people with brand new accounts on this site. Collectors who let the stuff out don't want their names attached to it, so this is how they get the job done. Most of the demos, even those owned by respected collectors are well-documented on various websites.Some. Not even close to most. A very, very small percentage. "Respected collectors" do not know everything. There is always more than what even the most knowledgeable people know. Unbelievably more. And they're not all "demos". Studio takes aren't rough demos - they are takes. The majority of unheard studio recordings are proper takes, where the band are attempting a backing track that might become the final version. A song briefly goes through the demo stage before take after take brings it closer to completion. Queen had the tape rolling at all times in the studio from the mid-70s onward, not to mention home recordings of basic song sketches. There is undoubtedly thousands of hours of material that nobody outside of the band's closest circle will ever know about. If an album took 2-3 months to record and the band was in there for 8-12 hours a day, do the math on how much music that must be. Even the most ardent collectors have accumulated maybe a dozen tracks that the rest of us haven't heard. That little bit is a drop of water in an ocean. |
Golden Salmon 27.06.2018 21:10 |
So, according to the metadata, that MP3 file is track number 7 from a 12 track compilation... ... I don't suppose someone feels like sharing more details on whatever is going on, right? |
dave76 27.06.2018 21:42 |
I agree with Bob's reaction. |
IanR 27.06.2018 23:57 |
Always humble and grateful for the opportunity to hear anything new from the archives. Thanks to the guy who uploaded that snippet! |
Rami 28.06.2018 18:46 |
Very interesting indeed! Great Song. Thank you very much!! |
IanR 28.06.2018 23:31 |
So, is Wooly Hat a proto-version of Back Chat, or is it significantly different? |
turtleacne 13.07.2018 06:32 |
Rod Stewart has said in the past that He, Elton and Freddie recorded some stuff together, I'm not sure if this was the same time as the original Let Me Live was done or later. Giorgio Moroder's original song called Love Kills, before Freddie Replaced it with the Version he worked on. A couple of Phantom of the Opera tracks. ______________ mangafox 2.0 |
The Ghost of Lester Burnham 13.07.2018 13:39 |
IanR wrote: So, is Wooly Hat a proto-version of Back Chat, or is it significantly different?Wooly Hat was the working title of Cool Cat. You made me doubt my own research! :P |
emrabt 13.07.2018 15:00 |
Is there a reason you've copied my post turtleacne? Are you a bot? |
miraclesteinway 14.07.2018 21:31 |
Wow. I just heard the Let's Make Love demo for the first time. Of course this is Freddie, but when was it recorded? It sounds like early 80s or even late 70s? |
Anton3283 15.07.2018 07:10 |
miraclesteinway wrote: Wow. I just heard the Let's Make Love demo for the first time. Of course this is Freddie, but when was it recorded? It sounds like early 80s or even late 70s?Complete demo or snippet? |
Seed_Of_Rhy 15.07.2018 13:15 |
So, if there any possibillity for the full version being here? at least on the same quality as a snippet... |
Jam Monkey 16.07.2018 20:49 |
A Queen version of Man On Fire almost certainly exists in the archive. I for one would like to hear it. |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 19.07.2018 15:51 |
Thanks a lot for sharing! Cheers, Ogre- |
people on streets 19.07.2018 16:33 |
Totally missed this topic. The "let's make love" thing sounds nice. Not soundquality wise of course but how Freddie sings it. Curious to hear more! |
people on streets 19.07.2018 16:36 |
dave76 wrote: That is indeed the "Let's Make Love" demo. The full version is over 4 minutes long. But there is more than what the band make us believe.You have it? |
Apocalipsis_Darko 19.07.2018 18:36 |
The Real Wizard, I send you a mail (about the book). If you can answer asap I will appreciate it. |
MisterCosmicc 08.08.2018 00:13 |
Great song |
Lorenzo1984 31.07.2019 01:40 |
Oh man i would love to hear the full version of "let's make love" we're in a great need for new queen stuff... haha |