QueenZone discussion #1491681

advanced159 wrote: I chuckled when Freddie said that Brian broke a string in the most awkward moment.

Penetration_Guru wrote: Well, that was an exercise in alternately "FUCK, there's footage of that???" and "Wait, go back, show me more and stop talking over it" Recording sessions for It's Late, Champions, Melancholy Blues, including three of them starting to mix Champions. Soundcheck of TYMD, Brian arguing with Freddie at another soundtcheck Tour rehearsals at Shepperton - discussing the setlist "You can't say We WILL Rock You AFTER you've rocked them" Some party with a paper cup fight, drunk Roger and clearly a good time brewing More backstage stuff (some already seen) Bits of Houston ( I think that and possibly Earl's Court are the only concert footage) More interviews (John's passenger seat interview is in RT's Range Rover as they both drive to Shepperton for rehearsals plus...Freddie drinking out of a can with the four-pack plastic still attached, and Brian's stereotypical 70's Y fronts There's so much material, it's ideal for a Blu-Ray - an hour of main content, plus extras of - extended rehearsal, extended studio, etc In short, it's both fabulous and frustrating.

popy wrote: Trying to understand why people still mention Earls Court shows from A Day At The Races tour while being mad about nothing of thoose shows aren't included in a boxset about News Of The World...

freddies bell end wrote: How much of the footage is a repeat?

dave76 wrote: Wasn't the John passenger seat interview in a Range Rover? It looked more like a Rolls Royce that Roger was driven. Maybe the one Freddie just bought?

IanR wrote: Who was the co-engineer for WATC (The fella with the moustache) ?

scottmax wrote: I could watch that shit all day!!

Michael Scapp wrote: what if they ARE putting out an extended blu-ray, just not to be included in the NOTW box set, but sold separately at a later date?

SpaceGrey wrote: If in official release there will be lambert bits oh come on I'll miss it

bryony wrote: Queen in decent documentary shocker !

Biggus Dickus wrote: I wonder why the quality of the video footage varies so much. In example at the beginning of the backstage footage after the show the image is very sharp and obviously shot on film. Then they show something else and go back to the backstage stuff and both the image and sound is crap. I'm sure that bad footage was still shot on film but something has happened to it over the years. It happened quite a few times during the program.

Another Roger (re) wrote: I agree with you mooghead. To be annoyed about this is quite destructive if we want more releases like this. I loved the documentary. But I wish they could have stuck in some extras for the box set release. Wouldnt be much work to assemble the complete individual interviews or something. But I guess someone would complain no matter what they put in there.

brians wig wrote: Annoyed? I think "Frustrated" is the word!

Killer_queenIII wrote: The new Houston footages alone sold me to it. All in all, I fricking like it! btw, the whistle bit, anyone know what part of the concert was this taken? this one's completely new to me

SpaceGrey wrote: If in official release there will be lambert bits oh com on I'll miss it

Killer_queenIII wrote: The new Houston footages alone sold me to it. All in all, I fricking like it! btw, the whistle bit, anyone know what part of the concert was this taken? this one's completely new to me

inu-liger wrote:

SpaceGrey wrote: If in official release there will be lambert bits oh com on I'll miss it

We get it Anton, you have a massive hate-on for Adam. Go find something else to bitch about a million times over.

Kamenliter wrote: There seems to be no reason why there isn't live footage of FULL songs on the box...so incredibly annoying. The footage is there! t DVD.

Penetration_Guru wrote:

Another Roger (re) wrote: I agree with you mooghead. To be annoyed about this is quite destructive if we want more releases like this. I loved the documentary. But I wish they could have stuck in some extras for the box set release. Wouldnt be much work to assemble the complete individual interviews or something. But I guess someone would complain no matter what they put in there.

So you agree that we shouldn't criticise, while criticising?

Queenman!! wrote:Did I really hear Bob Harris say at the beginning they restored the footage. Well if this is the result they should really shame their asses of. CHIEF COME IN PLEASE!!

user1 wrote: It's so ridiculous that the free TV broadcast is in HD whereas buyers of the super expensive box set only get a NTSC DVD...

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: At the Freddie bash, Simon spoke about the differing in quality - he just said it's what they had to deal with. I'm also puzzled as to why different parts of the same interview are in colour then black and white....but i'm not an expert on what damage can be done to film over time if not kept properly or what sources they had available. Simon was also asked about extra stuff...and he seemed to say there's really not much more left. But as others have said...it seems bizarre as certain things get cut when they're getting interesting etc. My only answer to that is potentially parts of the documentary were already edited 40 years ago and the rest discarded...but i dunno, most probably Simon underestimates how much a few minutes extra of Freddie rehearsing etc. would mean to fans.

Queenman!! wrote: Did I really hear Bob Harris say at the beginning they restored the footage. Well if this is the result they should really shame their asses of. CHIEF COME IN PLEASE!!

Barry Durex wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: Did I really hear Bob Harris say at the beginning they restored the footage. Well if this is the result they should really shame their asses of. CHIEF COME IN PLEASE!!

So you saw the footage pre restoration?

Day dop wrote: Turds! I missed it. And there's no uploads anywhere as far as I can see. No one recorded it?

Queenman!! wrote:

Barry Durex wrote:

Queenman!! wrote: Did I really hear Bob Harris say at the beginning they restored the footage. Well if this is the result they should really shame their asses of. CHIEF COME IN PLEASE!!

So you saw the footage pre restoration?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't be a smart ass... you know what I mean. Look at the coloured lines, flickering, grainy lines etc. We can discuss about what the term 'restoration' means of course in the words of Harris. Take a look at the work of Chief Mouse considering QP has the money, time and people who can do this.

Supersonic_Man89 wrote: At the Freddie bash, Simon spoke about the differing in quality - he just said it's what they had to deal with. I'm also puzzled as to why different parts of the same interview are in colour then black and white....but i'm not an expert on what damage can be done to film over time if not kept properly or what sources they had available. Simon was also asked about extra stuff...and he seemed to say there's really not much more left. But as others have said...it seems bizarre as certain things get cut when they're getting interesting etc. My only answer to that is potentially parts of the documentary were already edited 40 years ago and the rest discarded...but i dunno, most probably Simon underestimates how much a few minutes extra of Freddie rehearsing etc. would mean to fans.

Queenman!! wrote: Very strange Simon Lupton seems to say there's not much left as Rhys Thomas told there was like 7 hours of raw material shot. It seems due to expensive cost and budget they tranffered the damaged compiled/ montaged reel that was intended to be released ( and shelved) at the time to digital format and not the fragile mastertape reels.

Biggus Dickus wrote: It's baffling that there's footage from that US tour on Days of Our Lives documentary which they didn't include for this documentary. Some of it is looking better and/or has colour as opposed to the footage in this documentary. They really are clueless.

Harris’s one sharp question invited the four of them to talk about the sort of albums they might make as soloists. “Oh I’d make a lot of money!” said Freddie. His memory is still making lots of money for half of Queen, who have turned into their own grizzled tribute band. The vocals are performed by a howling pink-haired avatar in a coronet.

MercurialFreddie wrote:link

brians wig wrote: Finally found the time to watch it and really, I must have seen half the footage before, if not a more than half of it. VERY disappointing in that respect. Does anyone remember the fan-produced NOTW doco that someone made a year or so back. THAT had a lot of the material that's in "Rock The World". Crystal said they shot 100's of hours of footage, so where is it all? And at Convention a few years ago, GB said the when QPL moved to Universal/Island, EMI handed over 4000 tapes of Queen material. (I'm sure he said 4000). That obviously doesn't include what's in DoRo's archive.

dudeofqueen wrote: Queen man!!, re: >Perhaps GARY TAYLOR can help us with this mistery if he allowed to talk about this. Gary come in... By all accounts he'd pissed Greg Brooks off and had nothing to do with the project.

Queenman!! wrote:

Day dop wrote: Turds! I missed it. And there's no uploads anywhere as far as I can see. No one recorded it?

------------------------------------------ here you are:

MercurialFreddie wrote: Even professional journalists are pointing out what's wrong with this documentary, some of their views are very similar to those expressed here. Though it is a harsh example, here is a good review but basically slagging off the documentary: link

His memory is still making lots of money for half of Queen, who have turned into their own grizzled tribute band. The vocals are performed by a howling pink-haired avatar in a coronet.

brians wig wrote: Finally found the time to watch it and really, I must have seen half the footage before, if not a more than half of it. VERY disappointing in that respect. Does anyone remember the fan-produced NOTW doco that someone made a year or so back. THAT had a lot of the material that's in "Rock The World". Crystal said they shot 100's of hours of footage, so where is it all? And at Convention a few years ago, GB said the when QPL moved to Universal/Island, EMI handed over 4000 tapes of Queen material. (I'm sure he said 4000). That obviously doesn't include what's in DoRo's archive.

pittrek wrote:

brians wig wrote: Finally found the time to watch it and really, I must have seen half the footage before, if not a more than half of it. VERY disappointing in that respect. Does anyone remember the fan-produced NOTW doco that someone made a year or so back. THAT had a lot of the material that's in "Rock The World". Crystal said they shot 100's of hours of footage, so where is it all? And at Convention a few years ago, GB said the when QPL moved to Universal/Island, EMI handed over 4000 tapes of Queen material. (I'm sure he said 4000). That obviously doesn't include what's in DoRo's archive.

Actually I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of huge stuff. I'm not sure about the interviews, I don't know what was available officially, but the rest? Bob Harris talking to the crowd during the WATC video shoot, clips of the afterconcert, (what was it - Liar?), the tour rehearsal footage we could see only on the 2011 exhibition and bits we haven't seen before, longer clip of recording WATC, recordings of It's Late and My Melancholy Blues (BBC versions? They didn't seem to perfectly match the audio), Queen at the Omni, (actually just the audience), lots of Houston clips, arrival at the venue, dressing room chat before the gig, going to stage, the same WWRY clips we have seen in 2011 but this time not cropped to 16:9, clips from the Bob Harris view of Get Down Make Love, 39 and one unknown song, a clip from the NTSC video which is missing from the best copies (the whistle part), footage of Queen leaving the stage and following them backstage their banter after the show.... Tons of stuff I never have seen before

Togg wrote:

pittrek wrote:

brians wig wrote: Finally found the time to watch it and really, I must have seen half the footage before, if not a more than half of it. VERY disappointing in that respect. Does anyone remember the fan-produced NOTW doco that someone made a year or so back. THAT had a lot of the material that's in "Rock The World". Crystal said they shot 100's of hours of footage, so where is it all? And at Convention a few years ago, GB said the when QPL moved to Universal/Island, EMI handed over 4000 tapes of Queen material. (I'm sure he said 4000). That obviously doesn't include what's in DoRo's archive.

Actually I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of huge stuff. I'm not sure about the interviews, I don't know what was available officially, but the rest? Bob Harris talking to the crowd during the WATC video shoot, clips of the afterconcert, (what was it - Liar?), the tour rehearsal footage we could see only on the 2011 exhibition and bits we haven't seen before, longer clip of recording WATC, recordings of It's Late and My Melancholy Blues (BBC versions? They didn't seem to perfectly match the audio), Queen at the Omni, (actually just the audience), lots of Houston clips, arrival at the venue, dressing room chat before the gig, going to stage, the same WWRY clips we have seen in 2011 but this time not cropped to 16:9, clips from the Bob Harris view of Get Down Make Love, 39 and one unknown song, a clip from the NTSC video which is missing from the best copies (the whistle part), footage of Queen leaving the stage and following them backstage their banter after the show.... Tons of stuff I never have seen before

I think it would be virtually impossible to create a documentary that made sense yet didn't include a good chunk of material not already seen by the likes of Queenzone members I thought it was packed with new stuff, but then I've not even watched Houston....

Queenman!! wrote:

Togg wrote:

pittrek wrote:

brians wig wrote: Finally found the time to watch it and really, I must have seen half the footage before, if not a more than half of it. VERY disappointing in that respect. Does anyone remember the fan-produced NOTW doco that someone made a year or so back. THAT had a lot of the material that's in "Rock The World". Crystal said they shot 100's of hours of footage, so where is it all? And at Convention a few years ago, GB said the when QPL moved to Universal/Island, EMI handed over 4000 tapes of Queen material. (I'm sure he said 4000). That obviously doesn't include what's in DoRo's archive.

Actually I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of huge stuff. I'm not sure about the interviews, I don't know what was available officially, but the rest? Bob Harris talking to the crowd during the WATC video shoot, clips of the afterconcert, (what was it - Liar?), the tour rehearsal footage we could see only on the 2011 exhibition and bits we haven't seen before, longer clip of recording WATC, recordings of It's Late and My Melancholy Blues (BBC versions? They didn't seem to perfectly match the audio), Queen at the Omni, (actually just the audience), lots of Houston clips, arrival at the venue, dressing room chat before the gig, going to stage, the same WWRY clips we have seen in 2011 but this time not cropped to 16:9, clips from the Bob Harris view of Get Down Make Love, 39 and one unknown song, a clip from the NTSC video which is missing from the best copies (the whistle part), footage of Queen leaving the stage and following them backstage their banter after the show.... Tons of stuff I never have seen before

I think it would be virtually impossible to create a documentary that made sense yet didn't include a good chunk of material not already seen by the likes of Queenzone members I thought it was packed with new stuff, but then I've not even watched Houston....

======================================== Say you have around 7 hours of material , it is possible to have unseen stuff don't you think...? I found the houston QP stuff very blurry. Is the Version on Queenzone better?

bucsateflon wrote: This footage shows how Freddie was a different man back then, more focused on the band. Too bad he went of the rails early 80's...

Dr Magus wrote:

bucsateflon wrote: This footage shows how Freddie was a different man back then, more focused on the band. Too bad he went of the rails early 80's...

In 77 Freddie had yet to fall under Prenter's spell...