QueenZone discussion #1465022

The Real Wizard wrote: Fuck right off. You have trolled this website for years. Compare the length of this track to the one on On Air, and then apologize for your inability to do basic arithmetic, never mind inability to realize how lucky you are to get this new music without any effort besides making a couple mouse clicks.

The Real Wizard wrote: Your view is irrelevant. It's not my fault that you have a complete inability to notice that there are 40 seconds of audio here that aren't on the On Air release. You have no idea how stupid you are.

Barry Durex wrote: OK, did it sound better than this one?

The Real Wizard wrote:

rocknrolllover wrote: My opinion matters, because I have expressed it.

Again - your opinion is unwarranted and completely irrelevant, because you can't read and you are clearly deaf. Or you are a troll. Either way, until some kind of formal intervention happens here, I'm out.

Kiwi Magic wrote: Mr Wizard, Firstly I'd like to say thank you very much for all you have done and shared with this community. If it was not for the dedicated, generous people like yourself, who share and ask for nothing in return, I personally would only have the officially released albums to listen to. As a Queen fan, I am very grateful and appreciative. I extend this to everyone that has shared music by Queen on this site.

rocknrolllover wrote: Official release better than this

rocknrolllover wrote: I am not a troll and I am not an idiot. I expressed my point of view after listening to what you have posted. Or I don't have the right to Express their thoughts? I have every right, even if it is at odds with thoughts from other speakers. for God's sake do not share . We won't die

Barry Durex wrote: Thanks for this share but I have one question. At about 35 seconds in there is a strange little noise as the second guitar burst ends. I'm fairly certain it shouldn't be there, can you comment?

dave76 wrote: I have shared some special material over the years and most of the time reactions were positive. But also some people who wanted to know better and complain. If i could i would have shared more because i have a lot to give.

The Real Wizard wrote:

Barry Durex wrote: Thanks for this share but I have one question. At about 35 seconds in there is a strange little noise as the second guitar burst ends. I'm fairly certain it shouldn't be there, can you comment?

Yessir, that's what I'm talking about in the description - at :33 we hear the tape being stopped and restarted, and take 2 soon begins.

Barry Durex wrote: Thanks for that explanation, but I'm not entirely convinced. I think we would still hear that noise a little on other versions of the full intro.

Tim June wrote: Hi Bob and Brian's Wig thank you very much for another great share. It's wonderful that such things still appear after all these years.

rocknrolllover wrote:

Tim June wrote: Hi Bob and Brian's Wig thank you very much for another great share. It's wonderful that such things still appear after all these years.

Especially if nothing new But if he would brought Hangman he could be king of the share. Until this tome his efforts like dust in the wind

Panchgani wrote: RnR - Historically this is new and is relevant for most on QZ. It may not matter to less enthusiastic fans like you and I ... but you cannot deny that this is a highly relevant share. I know you want something "new" like Hangman, but no one is "obligated" to share new items. Personally, I do not believe you should be banned for issuing insulting non-constructive criticism, but if you want to be taken slightly seriously ... you might want to go into more detail regarding your criticism (and be more constructive), and of course be more diplomatic.

onedunpark wrote: There's sometimes very little comfort to be had in having the moral high ground, but I fear with the dimwitted/malicious minority that's probably the best you can hope for. That and the clear support of the vast majority of the board.

Toon_86 wrote: I think Brian felt something went wrong on the 1st take, stopped the tape, and then just went at it again. Can you hear a voice at around 36 secs? Is it someone saying 'Right'? At first I thought it was sorry, and thought it may be Brian.

There must be such a wealth snippets like this, such a shame that unlike guys like the true fans on QZ, we won't get to hear them.

DJGreg wrote: This new transfer give us a lot of new information - indeed, the intro was recorded separately from the main track, and it's confirmed not only because of the pause between them - during the intro we can hear the slight background noise of the guitar amp, which was suddenly interrupted by the silence and wasn't properly mixed. I doubt that the intro was ever broadcasted, as it never appeared on the acetates. I think this is the original soundboard test recording of the session, which supposed to be used for making the final mix, but the band decided at last not to use the intro for the broadcast. Maybe because the track would be too long for the radio, maybe they weren't satisfied with it..

The Real Wizard wrote:

Panchgani wrote: RnR - Historically this is new and is relevant for most on QZ. It may not matter to less enthusiastic fans like you and I ... but you cannot deny that this is a highly relevant share. I know you want something "new" like Hangman, but no one is "obligated" to share new items. Personally, I do not believe you should be banned for issuing insulting non-constructive criticism, but if you want to be taken slightly seriously ... you might want to go into more detail regarding your criticism (and be more constructive), and of course be more diplomatic.

It'll likely fall on deaf ears, but thanks for this - much appreciated. And thanks to everyone else who wrote equally sensible and meaningful posts.

DJGreg wrote: I doubt that the intro was ever broadcasted, as it never appeared on the acetates. I think this is the original soundboard test recording of the session....

The Real Wizard wrote: [ You never know what might pop up. That's the best part about this hobby - these old tapes sometimes bring up the most unexpected things. On this particular tape there were Anita Dobson and Immortals tracks from the 80s. It could've easily been overlooked !

brians wig wrote: That's an interesting theory. If it's true, then this opening must be the first unreleased 'track' sneaked out of the bands archive. It did always strike me as odd that the full thing would have made the broadcast considering the 'restart', but I've never come across a full off-air recording of the broadcast to know for sure. Every tape I've had it on was devoid of the other tracks from the session (until Queen at the Beeb came out in 1989). Who knows what Queen delivered to the BBC back then.

DJGreg wrote: It also make sense if you look at the "On Air" version - it was mixed from two different sources, moreover, the quality of the intro doesn't allows me to call it a "master" and it's pretty close to the quality of your transfer. So, I suppose, the original source of the recording for your tape and for the recently released version is the same, and it's not the "Master Mix". .

brians wig wrote: Well. I can certainly tell you that the Queen archives didn't contain the opening until a few years ago. They obtained it from a fan who had the best recording they'd heard. I don't know anything else other than that. I'd presumed said fan had a good off-air recording, but actually, you're most likely correct as we all know that Brian had his Mum record everything they knew was being broadcast on radio onto Reel tapes - hence the only reason they were able to release the (sadly heavily edited) DJ banter on the "On Air" set. So yes, if it HAD been broadcast, Brian would surely have had his own copy. It does make you wonder then, WHY it was included in the boxset if it wasn't broadcast! Questions, questions and suppositions....

dysan wrote: Strangely every time I hear the Ogre Battle BBC intro it reminds me of the first version I had on the bootleg Golden Demos - I know most of it was fake but I miss it. Anyone got a rip of it?

MrBdGuy wrote: I know I don't post here very much but I read the posts very frequently. I know it's hard sometimes but you just have to ignore rocknrolllover. He is very obviously a troll and you are giving him just the attention he is looking for. If we can all find a way to ignore him, he will go away.

Also, aren't there mods on this site???

dysan wrote: I don't know if it's been discussed before, but what are people's thoughts that some BBC sessions were actually done at Trident? Obviously we have the tracks that utilise the Trident backing tracks, but the remainder of the ones that were actually claimed to be done at the BBC could easily have been knocked off at Trident ahead of a scheduled session - which was something that has been done rather more widely than bands would like us to think.

Benn Kempster wrote: The trouble is that buffoons like "him / her" crave acknowledgement. And we're all guilty of responding to them and paying them notice at one time or another for little more than sport; perhaps its time that everyone agrees to NEVER reply or quote them in any way, shape or form. Even these people would, surely, gain nothing from posting destructive one-liners that get no reaction and, eventually, disappear? Banning them will only lead to them re-registering under a different alias.

When wonderful individuals feel that they can provide content for the rest of us Queenzone is simply an incredible resource. Hearing that one of these people is likely to pull out is just so incredibly sad. I feel terrible that I pretty much only exist on this board to take; I have nothing of value to give at all and really do wish I still had the library of material I used to have in order to be able to give back. Bob, et al, thank you SO very much for being the giving people that you are and I hope that you continue to do so for as long as you feel you can; christ, without you guys we only have QPL to rely on.

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: I have one suggestion. I do not expect full moderation on this website.

dave76 wrote: Trollers have always been here and i don't think that will change. Shame really because it leads to loyal sharers not sharing anymore. I have shared some special material over the years and most of the time reactions were positive. But also some people who wanted to know better and complain. If i could i would have shared more because i have a lot to give.

The Kurgan wrote: Thanks for this, I lost my copy a litlle while ago when saving another file with the same name.