Apocalipsis_Darko 03.02.2016 20:41 |
I did a phone interview with Mr. Lydon and...he was fan of Queen. And it's true, Freddie invited him to do chorus in a song from News Of The World! He told me Freddie was very humble and nice with him. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 03.02.2016 20:58 |
And you know Roger Taylor likes a lot Nevermind the bollocks. |
Sebastian 03.02.2016 21:25 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Freddie invited him to do chorus in a song from News Of The World!Which one? |
Cruella de Vil 04.02.2016 01:41 |
Probably All Dead, All Dead as Johnny Rotton lost his cat too! |
pittrek 04.02.2016 02:45 |
Lydon is a very intelligent man with a good taste. Even when he has basically no social skills. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 04.02.2016 03:30 |
He didn't todl me the song. I can imagine Sheer Heart Attack |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 04:25 |
Didn't he and Sid totally diss Freddie and Queen in an interview back then? I can't find the footage, but it is/was on YouTube. John always struck me as a poser, totally manufactured by Malcolm McLaren. In recent interviews you can almost see him break, not being able to keep up the farce anymore. This is apparent in his recent interview with Piers Morgan. |
Sebastian 04.02.2016 05:12 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: He didn't todl me the song. I can imagine Sheer Heart AttackFred invited him to sing on a Roger's song? I mean, well, perhaps... we'll probably never know. |
Costa86 04.02.2016 09:31 |
The Fairy King wrote: Didn't he and Sid totally diss Freddie and Queen in an interview back then? I can't find the footage, but it is/was on YouTube. John always struck me as a poser, totally manufactured by Malcolm McLaren. In recent interviews you can almost see him break, not being able to keep up the farce anymore. This is apparent in his recent interview with Piers Morgan.As far as I know, it was only Sid Vicious who said a couple of nasty things about Freddie, namely that he looked like a Turk (not sure that's a bad thing, but apparently he thought so) and that he was appalingly ugly with a thick beard - something to that effect. I can't find it on YouTube anymore either. Sid was just an absolutely obnoxious and destructive piece of work. Anyway, John Lydon has turned out to be quite an intelligent bloke who usually manages to say a few smart things in interviews. He himself now says that the whole concept of anarchy was just a con to make people believe they had some type of power, when in reality anarchy would never work and is one of the worst possible systems. He also mentioned, way back in the 70s, in an interview which wasn't broadcast, that Jimmy Savile was a hypocrite and a seedy perv. This only came out after Savile was outed as the nation's biggest sex offender. That alone wins him some respect in my book - and I'm glad to hear he was a fan of Queen. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 04.02.2016 10:38 |
John Lydon a posser? Woooh. Listen his discography with P.I.L. The Fairy King. If you don't know about anything, don't talk, don't write. Read and listen, Mr. Feracious. |
Marknow 04.02.2016 10:55 |
John Lydon is a decent bloke, always was, he was definitely conned by Malcolm McLaren to make money. Sid on the other hand was a complete wanker who murdered his girlfriend. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 04.02.2016 11:13 |
Well...Lydon wanted to do a real band from The Sex Pistols. One of the songs from his debut with P.I.L. Religion, was compused by him for a second album by the Sex Pistols. McLaren stolen all the money....Lydon was a very different person. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 04.02.2016 11:15 |
Sebastian, is only my theory. Roger described always Sheer Heart attack as a hard rock punk song. |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 12:20 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: John Lydon a posser? Woooh. Listen his discography with P.I.L. The Fairy King. If you don't know about anything, don't talk, don't write. Read and listen, Mr. Feracious.Calm your tits. Please read what i said. Plus it's MY opinion of the guy. It's no secret the Sex Pistols were in fact manufactured, not unlike Take That and One Direction. I always thought Johnny was just being negative for the sake of being negative. The interview with Piers kind of made me like him a bit. Still think his music is uninspired drivel though. By the way it's "ferocious" and "poser". :P |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 12:26 |
Costa86 wrote:I remember the words, but i don't remember who said what in that interview. It's possible it was Sid who actually said it. Shame we can't find it. :(The Fairy King wrote: Didn't he and Sid totally diss Freddie and Queen in an interview back then? I can't find the footage, but it is/was on YouTube. John always struck me as a poser, totally manufactured by Malcolm McLaren. In recent interviews you can almost see him break, not being able to keep up the farce anymore. This is apparent in his recent interview with Piers Morgan.As far as I know, it was only Sid Vicious who said a couple of nasty things about Freddie, namely that he looked like a Turk (not sure that's a bad thing, but apparently he thought so) and that he was appalingly ugly with a thick beard - something to that effect. I can't find it on YouTube anymore either. Sid was just an absolutely obnoxious and destructive piece of work. Anyway, John Lydon has turned out to be quite an intelligent bloke who usually manages to say a few smart things in interviews. He himself now says that the whole concept of anarchy was just a con to make people believe they had some type of power, when in reality anarchy would never work and is one of the worst possible systems. He also mentioned, way back in the 70s, in an interview which wasn't broadcast, that Jimmy Savile was a hypocrite and a seedy perv. This only came out after Savile was outed as the nation's biggest sex offender. That alone wins him some respect in my book - and I'm glad to hear he was a fan of Queen. Yes, the Savile subject was especially shocking. The guy apparantly warned the media...they didn't do shit about it. It's possible his reputation back then('78) caused people to not take him seriously. |
Marknow 04.02.2016 12:40 |
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musicland munich 04.02.2016 12:42 |
^ Maybe they've met in younger days :) Poor John :( |
Marknow 04.02.2016 12:48 |
The Fairy King wrote:Yes, the Savile subject was especially shocking. The guy apparantly warned the media...they didn't do shit about it. It's possible his reputation back then('78) caused people to not take him seriously. Amazingly the BBC comptroller approached Saville in the early 70's about a reported indecent assault on a female. Saville simply said it was all lies and it was left at that. The Police (not the band) should have been brought in, would have saved a lot of people from being hurt. Fair play to John for trying a bit to expose him but it was the 70's, things were sadly different back then and Saville was a massive star and charity worker. Paul Gambaccini who we all know well also says that rumors were rife as early as 1973 that Saville was a necrophiliac who also like to target young children. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 04.02.2016 14:39 |
The Fairly King, thanks about your corrections, but sorry, I don't have tits so don't try to cruise to me;) I like to explain me better in written english, so thank you very much darling :) Rotten or Lydon, if you read the real history about the Sex Pistols (I recommended to you the documentary The Filth and the Fury), wasn't negative, was against the monarchy and when he said no future, was no future with that situation in England, so the british would react and imagine a better future. And listen Public Image Limited. You willlisten a very difficult music, very strange. The Sex Pistols record is a masterpiece, even Roger Taylor said it. About Freddie talking about Sid Vicious. link Sid Vicious was a total stupid person and a horrible bass player, if we can say he played anything.... One of the big mistakes they did, was put him instead of Glen Mattlock. |
mooghead 04.02.2016 14:43 |
John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 04.02.2016 14:45 |
Another one bites the dust about Lydon! |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 14:49 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: The Fairly King, thanks about your corrections, but sorry, I don't have tits so don't try to cruise to me;) I like to explain me better in written english, so thank you very much darling :) Rotten or Lydon, if you read the real history about the Sex Pistols (I recommended to you the documentary The Filth and the Fury), wasn't negative, was against the monarchy and when he said no future, was no future with that situation in England, so the british would react and imagine a better future. And listen Public Image Limited. You willlisten a very difficult music, very strange. The Sex Pistols record is a masterpiece, even Roger Taylor said it. About Freddie talking about Sid Vicious. linkJust stop it, i don't care about the guy, let it go. I have my own opinion and i have seen and heard enough about the subject. If Roger Taylor likes the record, doesn't mean it's the freaking gospel. :') You're calling me darling and i'm the one cruising you? :') |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 14:49 |
mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.QFT. |
Liquid Scream 04.02.2016 14:50 |
I listened to a Nerdist podcast featuring the Sex Pistols guitarist Steve Jones. He is a fan of the early Queen albums and says he got on really well with them when they were both recording in the same studio is 77. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 04.02.2016 14:52 |
link The Fairly Queen, I was only joking (like the Rod Steweart's song!) |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 14:55 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: link The Fairly Queen, I was only joking (like the Rod Steweart's song!)Now you're just being petty. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 04.02.2016 14:57 |
Why so serious! Joker's style, |
Marknow 04.02.2016 15:18 |
mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever. Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so. He was a leader in the counter culture movement of the late 70's. |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 15:23 |
Marknow wrote:Are these the same critics who who treated Queen like shit? Why should we care about what they respected? NME made it look like punk was a big deal, but it was just a fad.mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so. |
mooghead 04.02.2016 15:31 |
"JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era" The first part of this is completely and utterly irrelevant. The second part has absolutely nothing to do with any talent JL did or didn't have. |
Marknow 04.02.2016 15:37 |
The Fairy King wrote:Marknow wrote:Are these the same critics who who treated Queen like shit? Why should we care about what they respected? NME made it look like punk was a big deal, but it was just a fad.mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so. In retrospect it was just a fad but from 1977-1982ish it was a massive movement. I didn't live it personally but I can appreciate how important it was at at the time. It was political and cultural as much as it was about music and it gave a voice to a lot of disillusioned people. It offered something different. Who cares about what NME said about Queen in the 70's? NME backtracked in the late 90's and now they hold Queen in very good regard. |
Marknow 04.02.2016 15:38 |
mooghead wrote: "JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era" The first part of this is completely and utterly irrelevant. The second part has absolutely nothing to do with any talent JL did or didn't have. It's become clear to me that you are clinically retarded. Or maybe you are just illiterate. Either way, next time you see your mother punch her in the face for raising you so poorly and drinking heavily while she was pregnant. |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 15:44 |
Marknow wrote:I don't and i was talking about 'critics' in general. :')The Fairy King wrote:Who cares about what NME said about Queen in the 70's?Marknow wrote:Are these the same critics who who treated Queen like shit? Why should we care about what they respected? NME made it look like punk was a big deal, but it was just a fad.mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so. |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 15:45 |
Marknow wrote:You are the one not reading the posts and you're calling someone else illiterate? Not to mention the fact you're just being offensive.mooghead wrote: "JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era" The first part of this is completely and utterly irrelevant. The second part has absolutely nothing to do with any talent JL did or didn't have.It's become clear to me that you are clinically retarded. Or maybe you are just illiterate. Either way, next time you see your mother punch her in the face for raising you so poorly and drinking heavily while she was pregnant. What the hell is up with people not reading the posts and just going full retard? XD |
Marknow 04.02.2016 15:52 |
The Fairy King wrote:Marknow wrote:I don't and i was talking about 'critics' in general. :')The Fairy King wrote:Who cares about what NME said about Queen in the 70's?Marknow wrote:Are these the same critics who who treated Queen like shit? Why should we care about what they respected? NME made it look like punk was a big deal, but it was just a fad.mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so. Well now, you did name NME in your post regarding the punk movement and they were highly critical of Queen in the 70's, my sincere apologies if I did draw an incorrect conclusion from that.. |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 15:54 |
Marknow wrote:I forgive you. Now apologize to mooghead as well, cuz that was uncalled for. :PThe Fairy King wrote:Well now, you did name NME in your post regarding the punk movement and they were highly critical of Queen in the 70's, my sincere apologies if I did draw an incorrect conclusion from that..Marknow wrote:I don't and i was talking about 'critics' in general. :')The Fairy King wrote:Who cares about what NME said about Queen in the 70's?Marknow wrote:Are these the same critics who who treated Queen like shit? Why should we care about what they respected? NME made it look like punk was a big deal, but it was just a fad.mooghead wrote: John Lydon is the luckiest man to ever make a living out of music. He literally was in the right place at the right time. He actually has no talent whatsoever.Tut tut tut, very uninformed post. JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era. He was sold out and exploited by management but still remains a very respected figure by critics and rightly so. |
The Fairy King 04.02.2016 15:59 |
There was a thread about the interview a few years ago. Shame the video isn't available anymore. link |
Marknow 04.02.2016 16:00 |
The Fairy King wrote:I forgive you. Now apologize to mooghead as well, cuz that was uncalled for. :P Naw, sorry. He's a moron who seems incapable of rational thought. I doubt he's even a Queen fan. In 11 years and nearly 3500 posts he has contributed nothing positive or informative to this forum. It seems like at the toss of a coin he could have ended up on a Pet Shop Boys forum but sadly for us he ended up here. |
mooghead 04.02.2016 16:40 |
Thanks, but I don't need others to stick up for me. The whole thing is just another tedious example of someone kicking off for not thinking the same as them. Resorting to insults on an internet message board actually brings out my sympathies for perpetrator. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 04.02.2016 17:14 |
link Freddie only talked about Sid Vicious!!! BRIAN MAY: "I had a few conversations with John Lydon, who was always very respectful. We talked about music". Quoted from the book "Is this the real life". NME was a shit. They were shit with Freddie (Is this a man a prat? was the headline), and was a shit with The Mission (they gave them a cover with the headline, the most estupid band from England). What do you expect from NME in the 70's and 80's? And now, Mojo, Uncut, Classic Rock, all are good reviews for Queen by critics. Even in the 91 with Innuendo. |
vicspec 05.02.2016 03:03 |
Good replies Marknow, you're bang on. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 05.02.2016 14:26 |
Marknow is the champion of the world! |
Sebastian 05.02.2016 14:41 |
I still feel like calling that BV's rumour into question. Unless Mr Lydon was talking about an unreleased track, where would have Freddie invited him to sing? It would've only made sense for Fred to invite him to sing on one of his (Freddie's) own songs, which leaves us: * Champions: Unlikely. * Get Down, Make Love: Disproved by the multi's. * My Melancholy Blues: Has no backing vocals. |
The Fairy King 05.02.2016 14:54 |
Sebastian wrote: I still feel like calling that BV's rumour into question. Unless Mr Lydon was talking about an unreleased track, where would have Freddie invited him to sing? It would've only made sense for Fred to invite him to sing on one of his (Freddie's) own songs, which leaves us: * Champions: Unlikely. * Get Down, Make Love: Disproved by the multi's. * My Melancholy Blues: Has no backing vocals.You believe the knob? :D |
Apocalipsis_Darko 05.02.2016 19:07 |
I think Sheer Heart Attack would be the song. Only chorus, and Roger Taylor liked and still likes some punk bands like The Sex Pistols or The Clash. You would have the leader of the musical revolution of the year in a song of your band. Match point. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 05.02.2016 19:14 |
You are a boring person..That's .not for you Sebastian. I'm talking about a poser from this topic. |
dysan 06.02.2016 03:01 |
I believe it. 'Invited' doesn't mean it happened. The song probably wouldn't even have been mentioned. Just pop in when you can. |
Sebastian 06.02.2016 04:51 |
dysan wrote: I believe it. 'Invited' doesn't mean it happened. The song probably wouldn't even have been mentioned. Just pop in when you can.Now that's much better. Hadn't thought about that. Makes sense. Ta! 'Sheer Heart Attack' backing vocals are all Roger. Lead are Freddie and a bit of Rog here and there. |
The Fairy King 06.02.2016 07:28 |
dysan wrote: I believe it. 'Invited' doesn't mean it happened. The song probably wouldn't even have been mentioned. Just pop in when you can.That's not the point. Why do you believe the story that he had contact with Rotten in the first place? Unless he/she can back it up with proof, i say we should treat it as gossip and nothing more. Especially now we have seen more of his/her personality. :') |
dysan 06.02.2016 07:36 |
I have no doubt that Freddie would've bumped into Rotten and had a chat about music or even just how their respective bands were getting on. There were on the same label briefly, and it was Queen's cancellation that led to the Sex Pistols appearing on the Grundy programme. Freddie was very in touch with 'new' stuff too despite his slightly arrogant 'untouchable' vibe. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 06.02.2016 07:59 |
Dysan, don't try to reason with a wall. I did interviews with Roger Taylor in person, with Mack in person, but this guy looks like know more than anybody. |
dysan 06.02.2016 08:17 |
eh? |
Biggus Dickus 06.02.2016 09:05 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Dysan, don't try to reason with a wall. I did interviews with Roger Taylor in person, with Mack in person, but this guy looks like know more than anybody.How do they fit into this topic? That's right, they don't. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 06.02.2016 09:15 |
That's not the point Putin. The point is.Roger Taylor punk tastes. Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Ramones. |
Costa86 06.02.2016 12:01 |
Darko, did you record the convo with Lydon? |
Apocalipsis_Darko 06.02.2016 14:13 |
Yes.I recorded always my interviews. |
Costa86 06.02.2016 14:40 |
Good - I hoped you had. So you have proof for anyone who says here that it didn't happen. |
Costa86 06.02.2016 14:41 |
The Fairy King wrote:dysan wrote: I believe it. 'Invited' doesn't mean it happened. The song probably wouldn't even have been mentioned. Just pop in when you can.That's not the point. Why do you believe the story that he had contact with Rotten in the first place? Unless he/she can back it up with proof, i say we should treat it as gossip and nothing more. Especially now we have seen more of his/her personality. :') ^e.g. here |
Apocalipsis_Darko 06.02.2016 15:28 |
Thanks Costa. link |
The Fairy King 06.02.2016 15:49 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Thanks Costa. linkThat's not the interview. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 06.02.2016 19:24 |
Pay me a lot of money and you will have the interview. It's my job. |
The Fairy King 06.02.2016 20:39 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: Pay me a lot of money and you will have the interview. It's my job.:') Nice try. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 06.02.2016 21:56 |
For other person, I will share for free. Not for you. |
The Fairy King 06.02.2016 22:20 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: For other person, I will share for free. Not for you.Ok liar. :') |
musicland munich 06.02.2016 22:31 |
AFAIK Darko is actually a music journalist in Spain(?), as far as I remember. |
Hangman_96 06.02.2016 23:46 |
Somehow I believe the interview did take place, but I'm not from Spain nor have I ever read any Spanish printed matter - which means I have never heard of you. I'm not trying to question the authenticity of this interview or of your persona, but I believe there are some other people round here who, just like me, have never come across the interviews you conducted in the past. But please understand, going on a forum and creating a topic about interviewing a musician without any proof to back it up isn't the way to go. I might just as well come up with a topic and say I've conducted an interview with John Deacon during which he said he would have liked to have collaborated with Joy Division without any magazine scans and/or recordings of said interview to confirm its authenticity. And will this be enough to make people believe me? If you work for some Spanish magazine, the interview should turn up somewhere soon, am I right? Or did you interview him just for your own pleasure? So there's no wondering why some people are prone to consider it just a rumour. Come back with proof when the interview is officially out (if it will ever be), otherwise we're not inclined to believe it ever took place. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 07.02.2016 00:44 |
I understand you Val Lurex. Mentioned in the Brian Mawy web. link link Pubished in a Chile magazine, with chile written mistakes. Originally published in an spanish magazine. And of course, it will be publish the interview wih Lydon, lucky for you, in a digital magazine, in april I think, so be patient.. So you you will have the proof. |
Hangman_96 07.02.2016 00:56 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: I understand you Val Lurex. Mentioned in the Brian Mawy web. link link Pubished in a Chile magazine, with chile written mistakes. Originally published in an spanish magazine. And of course, it will be publish the interview wih Lydon, lucky for you, in a digital magazine, in april I think, so be patient.. So you you will have the proof.Thank you. Looking forward to it then :-) |
Apocalipsis_Darko 07.02.2016 00:56 |
I recorded the interview by my digital voice recorder. But I don't now how to cut a piece, so I recorded again with my digital voice recording in my computer speakers, hahaha. Or jajaja, spanish way. link There you have the proof. The Fairly King, that must frack you! You can't call me again liar Mr. Ferocious! |
Apocalipsis_Darko 07.02.2016 01:14 |
And yes, I'm from Spain. Our national team win more tittles than England team, or spanish clubs win in Champion's league or Uefa cup every season in this last decade more than any english club. Ok...that was arrogant! ;) I'm more a cultural journalist. Most of my interviews are with musicians, but I did interviews with David Lynch, Alan Moore, Sasha Grey or Christopher Lee. |
Hangman_96 07.02.2016 02:42 |
Sorry, didn't notice your post with proof for some reason (Queenzone being bitchy, huh?). Thank you for uploading it. Very interesting to listen to. He sounds like a nice bloke to me on this recording. It's interesting what song Freddie asked him to sing on. I'm not from England, but I'm from Europe anyway :-) And a nice list of people you've interviewed there. Sasha Grey in particular. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 07.02.2016 03:06 |
hahaha, Sasha....Im in love with her. I did two interviews with her, the second in person. Very articulate and smart person. Also a Queen fan. The perfect woman! dreaming is free! |
master marathon runner 07.02.2016 08:05 |
The Fairy King wrote:.Marknow wrote:You are the one not reading the posts and you're calling someone else illiterate? Not to mention the fact you're just being offensive. What the hell is up with people not reading the posts and just going full retard? XDmooghead wrote: "JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era" The first part of this is completely and utterly irrelevant. The second part has absolutely nothing to do with any talent JL did or didn't have.It's become clear to me that you are clinically retarded. Or maybe you are just illiterate. Either way, next time you see your mother punch her in the face for raising you so poorly and drinking heavily while she was pregnant. there you go again about folk "not reading the post" - do you ever change the fucking record? For Christ's sake get a new friggin scriptwriter. |
The Fairy King 07.02.2016 13:08 |
Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: I recorded the interview by my digital voice recorder. But I don't now how to cut a piece, so I recorded again with my digital voice recording in my computer speakers, hahaha. Or jajaja, spanish way. link There you have the proof. The Fairly King, that must frack you! You can't call me again liar Mr. Ferocious!Thanks, you could've saved us alot of bullshit if you had included this in your opening post though. :P But anyway cheers. |
The Fairy King 07.02.2016 13:09 |
master marathon runner wrote:Dafuq, where did you come from? Who asked you?The Fairy King wrote:. there you go again about folk "not reading the post" - do you ever change the fucking record? For Christ's sake get a new friggin scriptwriter.Marknow wrote:You are the one not reading the posts and you're calling someone else illiterate? Not to mention the fact you're just being offensive. What the hell is up with people not reading the posts and just going full retard? XDmooghead wrote: "JL lived and breathed the punk movement and if you were into music at that time you would easily recall how big and important the SP were in that era" The first part of this is completely and utterly irrelevant. The second part has absolutely nothing to do with any talent JL did or didn't have.It's become clear to me that you are clinically retarded. Or maybe you are just illiterate. Either way, next time you see your mother punch her in the face for raising you so poorly and drinking heavily while she was pregnant. Did you contribute anything? No. Were you part of this thread? No. Go troll somewhere else, cunt. |
master marathon runner 07.02.2016 14:10 |
Blah blah blah, the whole community is laughing at you, as usual. Hahaha. Pumpkin headed nanny goat. |
The Fairy King 07.02.2016 15:28 |
master marathon runner wrote: Blah blah blah, the whole community is laughing at you, as usual. Hahaha. Pumpkin headed nanny goat.Right, dunno who made you the spokesperson for the "whole community", but i'm pretty sure it's all in your head. I know i hurt your feelings in the other thread, but it isn't necessary to come in here and act like a cunt. Please take your delusions elsewhere. Cheers. |
master marathon runner 07.02.2016 16:00 |
Get outta your bedroom and get some vitamin D. |
BETA215 07.02.2016 16:08 |
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Marknow 07.02.2016 16:52 |
Monkey piss. |
Saint Jiub 07.02.2016 19:28 |
I am not sure what Fairy did to warrant such vitriol. ??? I am not laughing at Fairy, so evidently someone has a wrong viewpoint on the "community". I mistakenly thought that marathon, Marknow, and Darko were decent posters, rather than thin skinned pricks. Perhaps moog deserves some shit, but not the offensive crap posted here. Were the Sex Pistols talented musicians or was "and I only know 3 chords" their official motto? |
Sebastian 07.02.2016 20:11 |
AFAIR, all or at least most of the songs on the 'Bollocks' album have more than three chords. |
Ozz 07.02.2016 22:06 |
Apocalipsis_Darko: I notice I huge personal bias in favour of punk , and Queen can't be more far apart from Punk (That's why you get a lot of harsh replies). Queen suffered through his history the criticism from the musical press (Lets say Rolling Stone) because during the 70's and 80's Music for them was always about being "authentic" and serious about having some attitude. And Punk, as well as Reggae, Ska, New wave and others did have that. So they were always praised, while queen was mostly mocked. Roger was (funny enough) The only queen member more aware of the current trends in music, so he did like punk for a while and all those kind of "attitude" bands (plus springteen, dylan)... So I think You can't really extrapolate the Queen sound out of Roger's personal preferences (The four of them were quite different in their musical taste over the years) I have heard a lot of interviews were punk musicians look back and tell that they really admired Queen. But that wasn't the trend back then. There are people I'm sure I will never hear praise Queen in any way (morrisey, robert smith) Thom Yorke said it well when he said that He was heavily influenced by Brian playing style but he felt embarrased that people will notice it. I think what I meant to say is: People here are too focused in being right. If you like punk? fine, but don't try to make people who doesn't like it think that punk (and sex pistols) is "complex" or likeable. Man. I Like PIL. They have awesome albums, but you are talking to people who probably are into progressive rock more than anything which is the opposite of punk. I think it's totally plausible that Lydon was invited to sing SHA. Even Champions (It has a massive chorus). Sebastian may know lots of facts but no one here in the thread was physically there around that time to confirm the information. People talk like they know the Queen members and his motivations better than anyone else... I've seen lots of interviews of pop and rock musician and most of them when they get older tend to get nicer than they were when young. Which means they praise almost every band out of courtesy. I mean, we just have to look at Brian and his soft filter when it comes to collaborations. I grew up in those times were punk was popular, but because I always liked more complex arragements I went towards music like Queen. So I understand when people see it as some basic expresion because that's how it was shaped and it would be quite arrogant for me to call it as an ignorant statement. We're Queen Fans. There is a Queen's punk tribute record floating around for years that I'm sure is the only one literally destroying the songs (except for the fabulous rendition of The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke)... God. I'm too old for this. "someone is wrong in the internet" |
Apocalipsis_Darko 08.02.2016 00:06 |
Of course, I can't and would never like to force anyone to like the Sex Pistols or P.I,L.. I'm agree with you. Queen's only punk song, is Sheer Heart Attack live's rendition. P.I.L. is not punk. Their second record, metal box is not punk, is more strange electronic. Anyway, Lydon loved kraut rock or Hawkind, nearly to prog rock. Also you ommited Brian May commentary about John Lydon, being a nice guy with them back in the 70's. I love any kind of good music. From tango to bossa nova or progressive rock. Panchgani, any insult from you is boostering my ego. Jelous because you never did an interview with Roger, Mike Moran, Justin Shirley-Smith or anyone from Queen's universe? Still listen May, Taylor and Adam Lambert. Of course are more than three chord songs in Nevermind's,.... The album included even some solos by Steve Jones. And..."this is the end, my only friend, the end". Never more contributions into this forum. Almost every reaction is negative, except Sebastian or some exception. So bye bye darlings and listen more John Coltrane's A Love Supremme. Is good for being relaxed. |
Sebastian 08.02.2016 06:21 |
Ozz wrote: Queen can't be more far apart from PunkActually, they did 2-3 songs with some punk influences. They're far closer to punk than opera (which a lot of people associate them with). Ozz wrote: I think it's totally plausible that Lydon was invited to sing SHA. Even Champions (It has a massive chorus).Theoretically, yes. But the evidence shows that SHA only features Rog. As for 'Champions', it could open another can of worms: is the recording footage authentic (as in, were they actually recording the song when they were filmed) or is it a recreation? If it's the former, then Rotten's clearly not there; the latter ... well, can of worms indeed. Ozz wrote: Sebastian may know lots of facts but no one here in the thread was physically there around that time to confirm the information.And even those who were there aren't necessarily error-proof (Brian's made loads of mistakes about events he directly witnessed, so did Fred, Rog, Mack and John, and probably everyone else, as memory can and does fail). That doesn't mean, however, that everything should be believed on the basis that 'we weren't there, so maybe it happened.' As someone else said elsewhere, there's a (massive) difference between Fred telling Lydon 'pop up when you can and do some BV's dear' and Lydon's voice actually being featured on one of the songs. The former, I've got no reason to doubt; the latter, I've got plenty (and, of course, I could still be wrong, and if I am, I'll happily admit it). Ozz wrote: God. I'm too old for this. "someone is wrong in the internet"Nobody's forcing you. |
matt z 08.02.2016 09:55 |
Dear God, we're calling Sasha Grey a perfect woman? ???? What fucking age is this? |
Bohardy 08.02.2016 13:55 |
Seb, you seem to be a little hung-up on the idea that Lydon might be doing BVs on a song off NOTW. Nobody at any point in this thread has suggested that he did, and I don't think anybody (apart from you?) is even entertaining this idea. I think it was abundantly clear from the start that he was casually invited to do some BVs on something, but this, of course, never actually happened. |
Bohardy 08.02.2016 14:01 |
Also, re the video of the 'recording' of WATC and MMB, weren't you a staunch proponent of the idea that it was a recreation, all for show, and that they can't have actually been recording anything? Regardless, I seem to recall it was confirmed fairly recently (maybe by Rhys Thomas) that that footage comes from the Bob Harris stuff, and was shot at the BBC Maida Vale sessions, not the NOTW sessions. That in itself raises the interesting thought that Queen might have recorded an alternate version of WATC for the BBC sessions that was ultimately never used/broadcast. |
Costa86 08.02.2016 17:14 |
matt z wrote: Dear God, we're calling Sasha Grey a perfect woman? ???? What fucking age is this?LOL Indeed. |
Costa86 08.02.2016 17:24 |
Costa86 wrote:(She's pretty hot though)matt z wrote: Dear God, we're calling Sasha Grey a perfect woman? ???? What fucking age is this?LOL Indeed. |
Sebastian 08.02.2016 19:05 |
Bohardy wrote: Nobody at any point in this thread has suggested that he did, and I don't think anybody (apart from you?) is even entertaining this idea.Have a look: Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: He didn't todl me the song. I can imagine Sheer Heart Attack Apocalipsis_Darko wrote: I think Sheer Heart Attack would be the song. Only chorus, and Roger Taylor liked and still likes some punk bands like The Sex Pistols or The Clash. Ozz wrote: I think it's totally plausible that Lydon was invited to sing SHA. Even Champions (It has a massive chorus).Two people suggesting and/or entertaining the idea that Rotten actually sang BV's on that album. Needless to say, I'm neither of those people. Bohardy wrote: Also, re the video of the 'recording' of WATC and MMB, weren't you a staunch proponent of the idea that it was a recreation, all for show, and that they can't have actually been recording anything?I was and still am, but I'm fully aware I cannot possibly prove it either way, that's why I wrote, and I quote: Sebastian wrote: As for 'Champions', it could open another can of worms: is the recording footage authentic (as in, were they actually recording the song when they were filmed) or is it a recreation? If it's the former, then Rotten's clearly not there; the latter ... well, can of worms indeed.I'm therefore considering both possibilities (either I'm wrong or I'm right about that alleged recording footage) and siggesting hypothesis of what that could mean regarding the idea (suggested by another poster) that Rotten might have been singing BV's on 'Champions.' |
Ozz 08.02.2016 19:58 |
Sebastian wrote: Two people suggesting and/or entertaining the idea that Rotten actually sang BV's on that album. Needless to say, I'm neither of those people.I'm not saying that he sang on it. I'm saying that the possibility that he was invited to sing anything, is totally plausible, and it should not be reduced to freddie's songs. Let's remember this is the ONE album where Queen produced themselves (assisted by mike stone). They may have been open to try anything. |
Bohardy 09.02.2016 01:19 |
Ozz has confirmed, as I suspected, that he was just entertaining the idead that Lydon was invited but didn't actually sing. I'm pretty sure Darko is talking about the same thing in his comments. No doubt he'll clarify. I think you've just misinterpreted what people have been saying Seb. |
Sebastian 09.02.2016 03:56 |
If so, then I happily stand corrected. No problem at all. Edit: Finally heard the interview and yeah, it's clear he turned it down. It's sorted then. |