| Barry Durex 30.10.2015 17:36 |
Did anyone capture the HD stream? |
| brians wig 30.10.2015 18:56 |
Nope. Didn't realise. Is it repeated? I don't watch TV much and don't buy a TV guide, so.... |
| Barry Durex 31.10.2015 03:25 |
It will probably be repeated, but not sure when. |
| Barry Durex 31.10.2015 10:55 |
It's on bbciplayer now, but unfortunately it is not available on there in HD http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01glwkz/sounds-of-the-70s-2-1-arthouse-glam-get-in-the-swing |
| DJGreg 31.10.2015 16:26 |
You're welcome. link |
| Barry Durex 31.10.2015 17:16 |
Nice one Greg, but how did you end up at 1280 X 720 and a frame rate of 60? |
| Rami 31.10.2015 18:53 |
Thank you very much! |
| MercurialFreddie 01.11.2015 06:02 |
Many thanks Greg ! |
| The Real Wizard 01.11.2015 11:30 |
Fab to see the pre-song segment. Thanks for this ! |
| Chief Mouse 01.11.2015 12:11 |
I'd say that this is a better quality version - http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1390564.html . |
| Biggus Dickus 01.11.2015 12:36 |
What's that guitar Brian's playing? Never seen that before. |
| Bad Seed 01.11.2015 13:33 |
Biggus Dickus wrote: What's that guitar Brian's playing? Never seen that before.A Japanese Greco. The first mass produced replica. They come up quite often on eBay. |
| Biggus Dickus 01.11.2015 13:51 |
Bad Seed wrote:I wonder if he ever used that one as a back up guitar on tour, like he used that other replica with lighter wood colour.Biggus Dickus wrote: What's that guitar Brian's playing? Never seen that before.A Japanese Greco. The first mass produced replica. They come up quite often on eBay. |
| Mr.QueenFan 01.11.2015 16:15 |
Thank you DJGreg. |
| Barry Durex 01.11.2015 17:20 |
Chief Mouse wrote: I'd say that this is a better quality version - http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1390564.html .That's from an SD broadcast though. Hopefully somebody captured this new HD broadcast at 1080 PAL |
| Nitroboy 03.11.2015 15:16 |
Barry Durex wrote: Nice one Greg, but how did you end up at 720 and a frame rate of 60? |
| Holly2003 03.11.2015 16:23 |
I;ve always been a bit puzzled about this one. Why does everyone mime except when Brian plays guitar? And is that a different version of the line "I've learned my passion in the good old fashioned school of loverboys"? The last few words sound different to the album mix. |
| Barry Durex 03.11.2015 23:47 |
It was only a "partially" mimed performance. Roger also sings Mike Stone's line. This nice logo free version also features the audience applause as on the original broadcast! |
| Biggus Dickus 04.11.2015 00:01 |
Holly2003 wrote: I;ve always been a bit puzzled about this one. Why does everyone mime except when Brian plays guitar? And is that a different version of the line "I've learned my passion in the good old fashioned school of loverboys"? The last few words sound different to the album mix.It's a different recording altogether, it's not the one on the ADATR album |
| musicland munich 04.11.2015 00:43 |
Oh that was nice ! Thanks for the kind share :) |
| Chief Mouse 04.11.2015 07:20 |
Barry Durex wrote:That's true. I'd like to take a look at the raw broadcast. But meanwhile, until someone shares it, I'd like to urge people to download this SD version. It's miles better than the online stream rip posted in this thread.Chief Mouse wrote: I'd say that this is a better quality version - http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1390564.html .That's from an SD broadcast though. Hopefully somebody captured this new HD broadcast at 1080 PAL |
| Holly2003 04.11.2015 07:50 |
Barry Durex wrote: It was only a "partially" mimed performance. Roger also sings Mike Stone's line.I know. That's what I said! I am wondering why Brian's guitar was performed live. I seem to recall something about live performances earning more on the BBC than mimed performances -- possibly something to do with a musician's union agreement -- so a band would sometimes mime on TOTP but the lead vocals were performed live. Here it's the guitar. I might be wrong about that though. Good call about the Roger line but I don't think it's sung live. Sounds more like a recording to me. Is the whole thing a different version? The only vocal bit that seems different to me is Roger doing the Mike Stone line and Fred doing a slightly different ending to the line before the guitar solo (and Brian;s guitar obviously). |
| Nitroboy 04.11.2015 17:18 |
The lead vocal is different as well. |
| Barry Durex 04.11.2015 17:47 |
Why not play both versions simultaneously and spot all the differences between the two? |
| Bohardy 05.11.2015 02:29 |
None of it is live. The whole thing has been re-recorded, with not a trace of the original remaining, and the band are simply miming to the re-recorded version. I'm surprised there's any debate. I thought it was incredibly obvious, and very well known. |
| Barry Durex 05.11.2015 04:53 |
Bohardy wrote: None of it is live. The whole thing has been re-recorded, with not a trace of the original remaining, and the band are simply miming to the re-recorded version. I'm surprised there's any debate. I thought it was incredibly obvious, and very well known.Just goes to show how uneducated we all are then, some bits sound like the original recording to me. I always thought it was partially mimed with some 'live' bits thrown in for the TOTP audience. I'm not sure why they would go to the trouble of recording a whole new version for a TOTP appearance though. Forgive me for discussing what is apparently obvious and well known to most of mankind. |
| brians wig 05.11.2015 05:09 |
I'm sure I posted an HD copy of this a few years ago, but my friend recorded the HD transmission stream and as soon as I get to him next week I'll edit the track out and upload it here. But Chief Mouse: you have to PROMISE to do a 50fps cleaned-up version just for me so that it retains that video look please! ;-) |
| brians wig 05.11.2015 05:10 |
Erm, if it was completely mimed, why does Brian shake his head in disappointment with his playing during the solo? |
| Barry Durex 05.11.2015 12:41 |
I guess we can all have our own opinions until the true facts emerge, if they ever do. |
| cmsdrums 05.11.2015 13:10 |
Bohardy wrote: None of it is live. The whole thing has been re-recorded, with not a trace of the original remaining, and the band are simply miming to the re-recorded version. I'm surprised there's any debate. I thought it was incredibly obvious, and very well known.Indeed. Roger not playing the cymbal catch after the "....taste the wine" line is one of the most obvious (and disappointing!) differences. |
| Barry Durex 05.11.2015 15:38 |
^ Not exactly conclusive proof none of it was live though is it? |
| Bad Seed 05.11.2015 16:15 |
brians wig wrote: Erm, if it was completely mimed, why does Brian shake his head in disappointment with his playing during the solo?That's just a Brian trademark, he used to do that frequently. It's completely mimed |
| Barry Durex 05.11.2015 16:18 |
^ Can you proove that? |
| Bad Seed 05.11.2015 16:49 |
Barry Durex wrote: ^ Can you proove that?No. But there is enough evidence for it to stand up in court. Regarding the guitar solo, it has harmony lines at the end, which I accept could be on a backing track. But it has also been done in either two takes or it is a combination of two takes. You can hear the overlap very early in the solo. |
| Bohardy 05.11.2015 16:51 |
Barry Durex wrote: ^ Can you proove that?Probably not. But can you prove that Queen mimed in Montreux? Without wishing to do a Sebastian and get hyperpedantic, we can never be 100% certain, and only have the available evidence to go on. And at some point we have to make an informed decision as to what our opinion is of what happened. For me, there's a tonne of evidence that confirms this was entirely mimed; chief of which is that it just doesn't *sound* or *look* live, at all. You can spot a genuine live performance a mile off, and this isn't it. Aside from that generality, there are specifics in the performance that confirm it to be mimed. Granted, the guitar and bass are less obviously mimed than the other parts, but if you look/listen closely enough you can tell. |
| Bohardy 05.11.2015 16:52 |
Bad Seed wrote:I almost made that point in my post. Thanks for bringing it up.Barry Durex wrote: ^ Can you proove that?No. But there is enough evidence for it to stand up in court. Regarding the guitar solo, it has harmony lines at the end, which I accept could be on a backing track. But it has also been done in either two takes or it is a combination of two takes. You can hear the overlap very early in the solo. |
| Barry Durex 05.11.2015 17:45 |
Objection your honor! I'm not stating it's a live performance, I used the term partially mimed. Wait a minute, you shouldn't even be having this debate, it's incredibly obvious..... (or is it?) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Old-Fashioned_Lover_Boy |