| The Real Wizard 10.09.2014 16:27 |
A request.. Can someone please do a quick LP>digital transfer of any 30 second passage to see if it's been mastered differently than the CDs et all ? It seems all so silly to buy LPs when everything has been digitally processed, but if they've retreated in the loudness war for the LPs to keep it as close to the true analog sound as they can, then I'll have to relent. But somehow I have my doubts.. Thanks ! |
| inu-liger 10.09.2014 16:31 |
The Real Wizard wrote:It seems all so silly to buy LPs when everything has been digitally processed, but if they've retreated in the loudness war for the LPs to keep it as close to the true analog sound as they can, then I'll have to relent. But somehow I have my doubts..If it's the same situation as ie. "The Cosmos Rocks" where there was a definite auduble difference in mastering, then I wouldn't worry about having doubts. Depends on who's also doing the mastering too. |
| brians wig 10.09.2014 17:34 |
Ya should ha just bought them from Amazon.ca when they were cheap! |
| akan 11.09.2014 01:44 |
The Real Wizard wrote: A request.. Can someone please do a quick LP>digital transfer of any 30 second passage to see if it's been mastered differently than the CDs et all ? It seems all so silly to buy LPs when everything has been digitally processed, but if they've retreated in the loudness war for the LPs to keep it as close to the true analog sound as they can, then I'll have to relent. But somehow I have my doubts.. Thanks !That's why I didn't buy the LPs :) (despite I'm moving towards the analog / vinyl world). Interesting topic anyway |
| akan 11.09.2014 01:50 |
inu-liger wrote:I didn't listened to Cosmos Rocks on vinyl format, is it worth having? Does it sounds better than the CD one or its mix is just something different?The Real Wizard wrote:It seems all so silly to buy LPs when everything has been digitally processed, but if they've retreated in the loudness war for the LPs to keep it as close to the true analog sound as they can, then I'll have to relent. But somehow I have my doubts..If it's the same situation as ie. "The Cosmos Rocks" where there was a definite auduble difference in mastering, then I wouldn't worry about having doubts. Depends on who's also doing the mastering too. |
| Ron 11.09.2014 03:40 |
In the runout grooves I noticed something like 1/2 SPEED MASTERED at Abbey Road. Dont know if that tells you anything. |
| akan 11.09.2014 08:08 |
Ron wrote: In the runout grooves I noticed something like 1/2 SPEED MASTERED at Abbey Road. Dont know if that tells you anything.In which format? 2 LPs or the 4 LPs box? Could you post a picture about that please? |
| inu-liger 11.09.2014 18:02 |
akan wrote: I didn't listened to Cosmos Rocks on vinyl format, is it worth having? Does it sounds better than the CD one or its mix is just something different?Absolutely, it sounds better. The compression on the LP's mastering is toned down compared to the CD's mastering, which gives it a more pleasing quality. |
| 99jaystang 12.09.2014 01:05 |
I just got mine from Queen online store, btw i got charged an extra $50 bucks from UPS stupid brokerage fees. Sadly my record player is in storage at the moment for a month because of staging my home for sale. Pissed off both ways , because I ordered the deluxe set cd/blu ray and a extra double vinyl from Amazon.ca in July and now I got a email saying it is back ordered and wont deliver until first week of Oct. Funny I thought Queen store would be slower to deliver here in Cambridge Ont. but they were excellent on getting it here on time (except UPS those $ fuckers) It will be awhile before I get to listen on Vinyl. And yes the inside groove has Abby Road Mastering hand itched on the vinyl. I look forward to listening to it. |
| Barry Durex 13.09.2014 16:03 |
The Real Wizard wrote: A request.. Can someone please do a quick LP>digital transfer of any 30 second passage to see if it's been mastered differently than the CDs et all ? It seems all so silly to buy LPs when everything has been digitally processed, but if they've retreated in the loudness war for the LPs to keep it as close to the true analog sound as they can, then I'll have to relent. But somehow I have my doubts.. Thanks !Make your own mind up, same old problem as far as I'm concerned although the vinyl is a tad better. Blu-ray link Vinyl link |
| The Real Wizard 14.09.2014 00:38 |
Thanks for the comparison, condom dude ! I wonder if our friend Stark could work his magic on this, to minimize the effects of the compression/limiter. He did a brilliant job on the overblown Tarantura bootlegs.. |
| Oscar J 14.09.2014 01:58 |
The LP certainly looks better! |
| Ron 14.09.2014 05:25 |
akan wrote:The 4lp. My 2lp copy is still sealed so I could not check it.Ron wrote: In the runout grooves I noticed something like 1/2 SPEED MASTERED at Abbey Road. Dont know if that tells you anything.In which format? 2 LPs or the 4 LPs box? Could you post a picture about that please? |
| akan 14.09.2014 07:43 |
Ron wrote:Too late, I just ordered the 2 LPs format :) . I think they used the same master for both LP releases.akan wrote:The 4lp. My 2lp copy is still sealed so I could not check it.Ron wrote: In the runout grooves I noticed something like 1/2 SPEED MASTERED at Abbey Road. Dont know if that tells you anything.In which format? 2 LPs or the 4 LPs box? Could you post a picture about that please? |
| Barry Durex 14.09.2014 08:26 |
^ For sure. |
| bootLuca 14.09.2014 19:19 |
I would like to know if the length of the concert on bluray is exactly the same as the cd... the Milton Keynes CD is shorter than DVD because QP decided to cut out some speech of Freddie |
| Barry Durex 15.09.2014 10:12 |
^ The CD comes out at one second longer @ 79 mins 40 seconds |
| brians wig 15.09.2014 12:19 |
If the 2LP set is the same master as the 4LP set, then it's probably the most pointless Queen release of all time. The whole point of the 2 LP set in my opinion is that we get the March show as it would have been released - straight from the already mastered 1974 master tape. After all, there's a bloody picture of it on the inner sleeve. If all they've done is recreate the track-listing using the recent remastering of the whole concert, then it's a massive con, a major disappointment and another QPL wasted opportunity. |
| dysan 15.09.2014 12:21 |
Lots of threads, so I'll say it here - a real shame they continue to have drum solos and guitar solos on separate CD tracks, especially considering the KYA drum solo is so short and essentially the same as the LP cut - and the guitar solo in S&D is the same as the BBC version and not necessary to cut up. Son & Daughter (Incorporating Guitar Solo) would've been a nice go between. That's it though. No other problems! |
| Barry Durex 15.09.2014 12:33 |
brians wig wrote: If the 2LP set is the same master as the 4LP set, then it's probably the most pointless Queen release of all time. The whole point of the 2 LP set in my opinion is that we get the March show as it would have been released - straight from the already mastered 1974 master tape. After all, there's a bloody picture of it on the inner sleeve. If all they've done is recreate the track-listing using the recent remastering of the whole concert, then it's a massive con, a major disappointment and another QPL wasted opportunity.Why would it be any different, isn't the 2LP set just highlights of each concert anyway? |
| Wilki Amieva 15.09.2014 21:47 |
Nope. The March show should be the original 1974 mix. |
| Barry Durex 16.09.2014 01:46 |
^ Please explain. Are you saying it's not highights? Also, where does it state it should be the " original" mix? |
| bootLuca 16.09.2014 02:25 |
from link "Limited edition gate-fold double vinyl package including one LP featuring an audio reproduction of the original March show live album and one LP featuring highlights from the November show" |
| Barry Durex 16.09.2014 03:36 |
^ Yes, but it is not the complete show and there is no mention that is the original mix? |
| bootLuca 16.09.2014 05:32 |
OK but you will agree that this is an artistic way to describe a disc that will contain highlights of the show |
| Barry Durex 16.09.2014 06:02 |
^ Yes, it should say they are highlights from BOTH shows. Having said that it's pretty obvious you could never fit the complete March show on a single LP :-) |
| thomasquinn 32989 16.09.2014 08:26 |
Barry Durex wrote: ^ Yes, it should say they are highlights from BOTH shows. Having said that it's pretty obvious you could never fit the complete March show on a single LP :-)No, but what they appear to be saying is that the vinyl of the March show is the original live LP they were planning to release in '74 as their third record and first live album. Same tracklist and, presumably, same editing. But I don't see how that would also necessarily mean the original *mix*. |
