| Stelios 23.01.2014 11:40 |
Has Dr. May ever used one of this cool things for his guitar work? Sounds to me that the opening of the" These are the days of our lives" guitar solo needs the use of an e-bow to bend the note like that. Other than that i have no idea. Do you? |
| The Real Wizard 23.01.2014 12:46 |
He used it on Love Of My Life and Get Down Make Love. |
| Mr Mercury 23.01.2014 13:31 |
I can tell you that he did use one in the early days live. I asked him that and got a reply on his website years ago. That was nearly ten years ago |
| crazy duck 23.01.2014 16:23 |
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| The Real Wizard 23.01.2014 17:33 |
Great pic ! Likely from the NOTW tour. I'd date it Nov-Dec 1977. He used it live only on Get Down Make Love, between 77-82... as well as his solo spot on the NOTW tour (after White Man). |
| crazy duck 24.01.2014 03:05 |
A great era! Well on top of their game back then! |
| Vocal harmony 24.01.2014 11:43 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Great pic ! Likely from the NOTW tour. I'd date it Nov-Dec 1977. He used it live only on Get Down Make Love, between 77-82... as well as his solo spot on the NOTW tour (after White Man).At first I thought NOTW tour, but in that picture BM appears to have "shorter" hair which would date it around The Crazy tour, during some of those shows he wore that white jacket, and also a similar one. Just a thought. |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 24.01.2014 12:44 |
Have any of you ever watched Paul Gilbert and Billy Sheehan from Mr Big using a drill whilst playing their guitar/bass guitar? |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 24.01.2014 13:01 |
Sorry if I offended anyone by diverting away from Brian and Queen with my last comment about Mr Big - I am after all a "newbie". Brian's two handed tapping with mixed time signatures on Bijou on the Innuendo album, in my opinion, will always be better than a guitarist or bass guitarist with an electric drill! |
| Mr Mercury 24.01.2014 13:19 |
Found the link to the reply for my letter regarding the Ebow In my letter, I asked Brian about a claim that came from the blurb inside an ebow that I bought. It said Brian used one on Good Company, so I asked him about that. Here is his reply:- "To tell you the truth, I don't remember using an E-Bow on "Good Company", though it was a long time ago and I could possibly have forgotten!! As I remember it, I did it all with the small "Deacy" amp, with microphones placed at various places relative to the speaker cone, depending on what tone I wanted the part to have, plus in some cases a "Wah Wah" pedal set to a particular place in its range, to colour the sound, and for some sounds, a volume pedal to vary the attack of, say, the "trombone". I DID use an E-bow on stage though. It was very useful for starting off my long solo at one point. I could make long Whale-like noises by gently moving the device up to a position over a low string. Along with use of the Tremolo to zoom the pitch way down, and the delays I was using at the time, it gave a lot of scope for building up weird textures. I really enjoyed it if the mood was developing well that night. Usually at some point after a couple of minutes I would lob the E-Bow in Jobby's direction, and lay into the guitar with a pick instead, going into more rhythmic areas. I don't know what happened to my E-bow - haven't seen it for years. Must get another one to play around with!!! The reason I didn't get heavily into it as a technique was really because I always liked to produce sustain by feedback through the air. This is quite controllable in one way, since you can move around the stage to get different degrees of positive feedback to keep the sustain going, but it's also quite exciting because unpredictable things happen - the sustained note may burst into another octave or a higher overtone. Mr. Clapton used to use this to great effect in his days in Cream. I used this too a fair bit in the early days, notably in the stage intro to "Stone Cold Crazy" , and later, along with a fed-back harmoniser, in the solo section of "Get Down Make Love" . Cheers - Happy 2004 !! Brian (Jen, and for those who are wondering what the Hell I'm talking about - the E-bow is a little chrome plated thing that looks like a weird kind of watch or something. You hold it over a string, and it picks up the vibrations, electronically amplifies them internally, and re-emits that particular frequency as a wave which excites the string further. A perfect classic "Positive feedback loop" situation. If you get it right, the string will sound forever, or until your E-bow battery runs out!!! It's a clever invention - and fun to use - giving an effect very like bowing a violin string; hence the name - from "electronic bow" I guess. ) " link |
| inu-liger 24.01.2014 14:16 |
Off topic, but crazy duck, your username sig incorrectly quotes "bytes" as "bites" ;-) |
| Queenman!! 24.01.2014 14:16 |
Didn't he use a e-bow on the rock in rio guitar solo. |
| The Real Wizard 24.01.2014 15:15 |
Vocal harmony wrote:Indeed, you're very likely right.The Real Wizard wrote: Great pic ! Likely from the NOTW tour. I'd date it Nov-Dec 1977. He used it live only on Get Down Make Love, between 77-82... as well as his solo spot on the NOTW tour (after White Man).At first I thought NOTW tour, but in that picture BM appears to have "shorter" hair which would date it around The Crazy tour, during some of those shows he wore that white jacket, and also a similar one. Just a thought. |
| The Real Wizard 24.01.2014 15:16 |
dragonfly.trumpeter wrote: Have any of you ever watched Paul Gilbert and Billy Sheehan from Mr Big using a drill whilst playing their guitar/bass guitar?Got a good clip of it !? Don't apologize for bringing up non-Queen things here. Believe it or not, there are a few of us here who don't have myopic music tastes and are into other artists. ;) Although sometimes we do have to wonder.. |
| crazy duck 24.01.2014 15:20 |
Inu-liger your right my god I never spotted that. Thanks dude! |
| The Real Wizard 24.01.2014 15:21 |
mr mercury wrote: This is quite controllable in one way, since you can move around the stage to get different degrees of positive feedback to keep the sustain going, but it's also quite exciting because unpredictable things happen - the sustained note may burst into another octave or a higher overtone. Mr. Clapton used to use this to great effect in his days in Cream. I used this too a fair bit in the early days, notably in the stage intro to "Stone Cold Crazy"Maybe he meant Ogre Battle? Man, is he ever articulate in explaining how things worked for him. |
| The Real Wizard 24.01.2014 15:35 |
queenman!! 12321 wrote: Didn't he use a e-bow on the rock in rio guitar solo.Well spotted ! On both nights, actually. And it's the last time he's used an EBow live to date, if I'm not mistaken. |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 24.01.2014 16:52 |
Thank you for responding, The Real Wizard. I do have a video of Mr Big somewhere where they are playing with drills(!) from my early teens which is something I studied whilst learning to play guitar (but I never bought the drill!) and I have still got to Grade 8+ etc. I recall from earlier this evening that these chaps are on you tube playing with their drills etc. As I mentioned before, I believe Brian's guitar playing on Bijou is far better (as are many, if not all Queen tracks with Brian's guitar). One of the many other tracks I am extremely fond of, but which I don't think has any guitar on it, is Guide Me Home, from the Barcelona album - this is currently my favourite solo track from Freddie (but my tastes do change over time) - although perhaps this track is a little obscure to some people. It would be interesting to know how other people on Queenzone rate Guide Me Home compared to Freddie's other solo works? Of course I do also rate very highly stuff like In My Defence (although apparently entirely written by others!) and Barcelona and a large number of others from Freddie's solo output. |
| Mr Mercury 24.01.2014 17:09 |
The Real Wizard wrote:You may well be right about Ogre Battle. Maybe at the time he just quoted the wrong song. Who knows....... just have to give the Doc the benefit of the doubt.mr mercury wrote: This is quite controllable in one way, since you can move around the stage to get different degrees of positive feedback to keep the sustain going, but it's also quite exciting because unpredictable things happen - the sustained note may burst into another octave or a higher overtone. Mr. Clapton used to use this to great effect in his days in Cream. I used this too a fair bit in the early days, notably in the stage intro to "Stone Cold Crazy"Maybe he meant Ogre Battle? Man, is he ever articulate in explaining how things worked for him. |
| The Real Wizard 24.01.2014 23:12 |
dragonfly.trumpeter wrote: It would be interesting to know how other people on Queenzone rate Guide Me Home compared to Freddie's other solo works? Of course I do also rate very highly stuff like In My Defence (although apparently entirely written by others!) and Barcelona and a large number of others from Freddie's solo output.I find side A of Barcelona far superior to side B. Side A is a true fusion of pop with opera, whereas side B almost sounds like Mercury is trying to shoehorn Caballe into his pop songs. It just doesn't seem as organic for some reason. The songs would've been just as good without her, whereas her presence on side A brings the songs to life. That's my take, anyway. That said - it's still far better than most of Mr Bad Guy. That was just a disaster, save two or three tracks.. In My Defence is probably my favourite FM solo track, next to Barcelona. Both are just perfection. |
| Mr.QueenFan 25.01.2014 15:55 |
I believe that in the beginning of "Machines" on the works tour, right before the actual track begins i think i can hear Brian's ebow. I always found it interesting for them to record something extra for the intro of the show. It could be Spike on Keys but it really sounds like the ebow to me. In case it's the ebow, then it's another time when Brian used it in the studio, although it was only released on the Live in Japan 85 show. In Rock in Rio they've edited out he beginning. In this video (Rock in Rio), it's the sound around 2:07 link In this video (Live in Sydney 85), it's the sound on 1:02. link What do you people think? |
| The Real Wizard 25.01.2014 18:49 |
That's definitely a vocoder. Several, actually. |
| Mr.QueenFan 26.01.2014 14:41 |
The Real Wizard wrote: That's definitely a vocoder. Several, actually.I had to check wiki and youtube to know what a Vocoder is :-) I trust you on this because i don't know what a vocoder can do. I believe it's what they used on Radio Gaga? My confusion came from the Brian solo live in Brasil - Rock in Rio. link Around 53:27 Brian does a sound that i thought was the same as in the intro. Now i know better, thanks for clarifying that. |
| The Real Wizard 26.01.2014 23:22 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote: I believe it's what they used on Radio Gaga?Bingo. Around 53:27 Brian does a sound that i thought was the same as in the intro.That's just him using the whammy bar to lower the note. |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 28.01.2014 18:08 |
Correct me if I wrong but didn't one of those chaps from Mott the Hoople use an Ebow (or something similar) during one of the songs at the Wembley Stadium Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert? |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 28.01.2014 18:15 |
I think it was during Heros by big ears of St James's Park |
| The Real Wizard 29.01.2014 00:44 |
You mean Mick Ronson? |
| inu-liger 29.01.2014 01:34 |
dragonfly.trumpeter wrote: Correct me if I wrong but didn't one of those chaps from Mott the Hoople use an Ebow (or something similar) during one of the songs at the Wembley Stadium Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert?That was Mick Ronson (of The Spiders From Mars, not Mott The Hoople), and yes he did use it on "Heroes" |
| The Real Wizard 29.01.2014 15:55 |
inu-liger wrote: Mick Ronson (of The Spiders From Mars, not Mott The Hoople)Technically he was in the band, if only briefly.. |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 06.02.2014 16:47 |
To be honest, I have been told that the Government agent who is David Bowie is also the heir to the throne i.e. Prince Charles. This would make sense because I have been taught that in reality the Government owns the media. Therefore, as Prince Charles is the heir, and potentially the head of state and Government, he would logically have the permissions to be a popular icon in the media whilst growing up i.e David Bowie. I have been notified that the agent who is Prince Charles is also the Government agent who is David Bowie. If you want to dispute this with me, then please let me know. Please listen to Heroes and his disclosure that he will be king one day and please shit your pants with laughter before bothering to come back to me. I can skin Prince Charles alive if I want to because I am indemnified by the US Secret Services. |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 06.02.2014 16:54 |
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