mickyparise 28.11.2013 21:46 |
Brian May discusses upcoming release Queen star Brian May has discussed plans to release 'new' Queen material, which will feature previously unheard vocals from Freddie Mercury, hinting that it could rival some of the band's best ever work. The legendary band are currently working on a new record, after the discovery of Freddie Mercury demos. May has revealed his surprise at the quantity of the vocals tracks and the quality of the unheard music. "There's more in there than we thought, in the Queen source archive. We've found some Freddie vocals, some demos," says May in a new interviewwith MOJO magazine. "If we find an analogue 24-track of Freddie singing something that never got finished, the first thing we do is transfer it into the digital domain." "We make the copy at the highest resolution you can. Then we start weaving our tapestry." However, despite the recently unearthed material, May revealed that he is uncertain if they have found enough to warrant a full album release, adding: "I'm a little nervous of saying there's an album there, but there's certainly a few tracks." "So at the moment we're working on spinning some new music around those, which is what we did for the Made in Heaven album, which was possibly the best Queen album we ever made." link |
rocknrolllover 28.11.2013 23:13 |
mickyparise wrote: Brian May discusses upcoming release Queen star Brian May has discussed plans to release 'new' Queen material, which will feature previously unheard vocals from Freddie Mercury, hinting that it could rival some of the band's best ever work. The legendary band are currently working on a new record, after the discovery of Freddie Mercury demos. May has revealed his surprise at the quantity of the vocals tracks and the quality of the unheard music. "There's more in there than we thought, in the Queen source archive. We've found some Freddie vocals, some demos," says May in a new interviewwith MOJO magazine. "If we find an analogue 24-track of Freddie singing something that never got finished, the first thing we do is transfer it into the digital domain." "We make the copy at the highest resolution you can. Then we start weaving our tapestry." However, despite the recently unearthed material, May revealed that he is uncertain if they have found enough to warrant a full album release, adding: "I'm a little nervous of saying there's an album there, but there's certainly a few tracks." "So at the moment we're working on spinning some new music around those, which is what we did for the Made in Heaven album, which was possibly the best Queen album we ever made." linkThanks for this. I don't know what to think but I think we need another one Made in Heaven with more than three unheard songs that was on Made in Heaven 1995. |
princetom 28.11.2013 23:51 |
a 24 track reel filled with freddie's vocals ? best news for ages ! |
jondickens1 29.11.2013 01:21 |
Interesting that the MJ tracks arent mentioned. Problem with release rights? Personally,I couldn't give a monkey's if they're included on the album or not,except maybe Victory as its 'unheard'. TMBMTLTT is average and better without MJ and as for State of Shock,it's a poor B-)side MJ track at best. Bring on Face it alone,New York,Affairs,A new life is born,Man made Paradise etc etc and forget MJ. |
MrFunster 29.11.2013 02:22 |
Bring out the best unheard demo's of mercury and add some reworked well known tracks , or tracks from solo. Love makin 'love , Love kills will also be a good alternative..... |
rocknrolllover 29.11.2013 03:20 |
jondickens1 wrote: Interesting that the MJ tracks arent mentioned. Problem with release rights? Personally,I couldn't give a monkey's if they're included on the album or not,except maybe Victory as its 'unheard'. TMBMTLTT is average and better without MJ and as for State of Shock,it's a poor B-)side MJ track at best. Bring on Face it alone,New York,Affairs,A new life is born,Man made Paradise etc etc and forget MJ.Brian mentioned not long ago that they are worked on a three tracks duets FM&MJ. |
MrFunster 29.11.2013 04:35 |
+ Brian has an own project, probably called Let me in your heart again. I thought Roger also had a song he worked on, but I'm not quite sure about this. |
rocknrolllover 29.11.2013 04:50 |
MrFunster wrote: + Brian has an own project, probably called Let me in your heart again. I thought Roger also had a song he worked on, but I'm not quite sure about this.Wait and see. Something tells me that some tracks from Freddie Mercury solo will be used for new album, I do mean those tracks for example love making love, holding on, etc... |
brENsKi 29.11.2013 07:37 |
princetom wrote: a 24 track reel filled with freddie's vocals ? best news for ages !i don't think he said that. my reservation is at Brian's "surprise" at how much there is....could this just be another bit of QPL "hyperbole"? or did Brian really have no idea what they had? i find it hard to believe he didn't know....it's not as if they didn't go thru all the archives before (1994/95)...or does his memory expire after 18 years? |
Pingfah 29.11.2013 07:42 |
Made in Heaven was decent, and a nice swansong given what they had to work with. But if Brian thinks that is their best album, he is off his fucking rocker. |
Sebastian 29.11.2013 08:29 |
Pingfah wrote: Made in Heaven was decent, and a nice swansong given what they had to work with. But if Brian thinks that is their best album, he is off his fucking rocker.That's the only 'album' where Brian could do as he pleased without having to compromise with Freddie. |
andyb1968 29.11.2013 09:50 |
Made in heaven was started by Roger and John while brian was doing his solo tour, when brian got into the studio he virtually scrapped everything they had done ! That's why he feels it's their best album, and also why Roger doesn't want anything to do with these unearthed tracks, very much Brian's project I feel. Incidentally ,sheer heart attack, best album for me, the one I most listen to from beginning to end. |
Missreclusive 29.11.2013 12:08 |
Don't know the man, only what I read and deduct from reading and watching vids. Sebastian, you said exactly what I thought. Yet, BM is still riding the Freddie train. He just cant seem to gain the adoration he wants. Sad. We can only hope that new Freddie vocals will see the light of day, just the thought of it makes me smile. Honestly, no other band has ever captured me before quite like this...and I haven't followed them the way so many of you have for years and years. Must be so disappointing to have your hopes dashed time and time again. If nothing else, and as many have said, you would think they would have released any and all recordings of Freddie for the loyal fans. Maybe it's simply a control issue? I still think that if it were up to Roger, it would have been done long ago! |
AlexRocks 29.11.2013 12:26 |
I think a new Queen studio l.p. should be done but only after a Queen + studio l.p. and tour are done first! I think a new studio l.p. of and by Queen with Freddie's vocals should be released in 2015 instead! |
rocknrolllover 29.11.2013 13:15 |
AlexRocks wrote: I think a new Queen studio l.p. should be done but only after a Queen + studio l.p. and tour are done first! I think a new studio l.p. of and by Queen with Freddie's vocals should be released in 2015 instead!Summer 2014 |
MadTheSwine73 29.11.2013 13:23 |
I think that the idea of a new album is great. The quality of the songs themselves, however, is a different story altogether. Brian said in the article that Made In Heaven"was possibly the best Queen album we ever made," so with that sort of attitude, as well as the fact of him saying that "there's more in there than we thought," could mean a possible full album release, like Made In Heaven. Most of us are hoping for a "Made In Heaven 2" type of album, and we're all just listing off songs we know exist that we would like to have on the album. However, if Brian said that "there's more in there than we thought," why are most people hoping for "Affairs," "A New Life Is Born" (which we already have most of), or a bunch of other songs we already know of, and have takes of? The only released/unreleased song that I think would really be great to hear a full version of would be "Face It Alone," and depending on what they can do in the studio these days, maybe even "Dog With A Bone," or "Sandbox." Stuff like "My Secret Fantasy," which is basically a finished song, is pretty bad (lyrically) and there have been, and hopefully will be, stronger music than the one on that track. "Feelings, Feelings," the only other song, in my view, that could have been a serious contender for this alleged next album, was issued in 2011, as a bonus track. When it comes to Queenifying old Freddie songs, I'm a little hesitant. They could do so well with so many of his songs, if not all, but here's hoping they choose good ones. Something like "Love Makin' Love," "Mr. Bad Guy," "My Love is Dangerous" or "New York" could be really great. Hopefully they don't choose to make new versions of "Let's Turn It On" and "Foolin' Around." Hopefully they only do one or two (at most three) re-done Freddie songs, if this album ever comes to be. Mind you, I'd love to hear a Queen version of "In My Defence." Also, why don't Brian and Roger do some stuff together just for this album? Sure, "Fun On Earth" wasn't what most of us wanted, when it comes to the "rocker" sound Roger usually gives. Hopefully, if this album ever happens, they could do a few numbers like this. Finally, if anyone is expecting John Deacon to come back for this, stop. If he won't answer phone calls, he won't record a new album. TL;DR - Why hope for songs we already know of? Hope for the unheard songs Brian says are great. Maybe a few re-done Freddie songs, and a few Brian & Roger vocals could be nice. Don't expect John to return. |
rocknrolllover 29.11.2013 13:30 |
MadTheSwine73 wrote: I think that the idea of a new album is great. The quality of the songs themselves, however, is a different story altogether. Brian said in the article that Made In Heaven"was possibly the best Queen album we ever made," so with that sort of attitude, as well as the fact of him saying that "there's more in there than we thought," could mean a possible full album release, like Made In Heaven. Most of us are hoping for a "Made In Heaven 2" type of album, and we're all just listing off songs we know exist that we would like to have on the album. However, if Brian said that "there's more in there than we thought," why are most people hoping for "Affairs," "A New Life Is Born" (which we already have most of), or a bunch of other songs we already know of, and have takes of? The only released/unreleased song that I think would really be great to hear a full version of would be "Face It Alone," and depending on what they can do in the studio these days, maybe even "Dog With A Bone," or "Sandbox." Stuff like "My Secret Fantasy," which is basically a finished song, is pretty bad (lyrically) and there have been, and hopefully will be, stronger music than the one on that track. "Feelings, Feelings," the only other song, in my view, that could have been a serious contender for this alleged next album, was issued in 2011, as a bonus track. When it comes to Queenifying old Freddie songs, I'm a little hesitant. They could do so well with so many of his songs, if not all, but here's hoping they choose good ones. Something like "Love Makin' Love," "Mr. Bad Guy," "My Love is Dangerous" or "New York" could be really great. Hopefully they don't choose to make new versions of "Let's Turn It On" and "Foolin' Around." Hopefully they only do one or two (at most three) re-done Freddie songs, if this album ever comes to be. Mind you, I'd love to hear a Queen version of "In My Defence." Also, why don't Brian and Roger do some stuff together just for this album? Sure, "Fun On Earth" wasn't what most of us wanted, when it comes to the "rocker" sound Roger usually gives. Hopefully, if this album ever happens, they could do a few numbers like this. Finally, if anyone is expecting John Deacon to come back for this, stop. If he won't answer phone calls, he won't record a new album. TL;DR - Why hope for songs we already know of? Hope for the unheard songs Brian says are great. Maybe a few re-done Freddie songs, and a few Brian & Roger vocals could be nice. Don't expect John to return.Nice speech, you know. |
andyb1968 29.11.2013 14:26 |
John won't be involved he washed his hands of Queen a long time ago, I think some of the demos on Freddies box set would definitely stand a Queen makeover, also I remember a fan mix of new York at last which was fantastic, I'd have that on the album as it is. We won't see this album next year, with the amount of stuff Brian has on his plate over the next 12 months, Kerry New album and tour, don't we remember how long we waited for made in heaven ? |
Mr.QueenFan 29.11.2013 14:39 |
Brian May is absolutely right - Made in Heaven is their best studio record. It's incredible, and it's a musically brilliant record from start to finish. It's the best Brian May record with Queen ever. The arrangements of the songs and the guitar harmonies are perfect, the solos are amongst the best he ever produced, the different tones for different songs differentiate him from all the guitar players. Totally agree with Brian! And i'm looking forward for the new Queen record, because i know it will be spectacular. |
Rogers Untidy Bottom 29.11.2013 17:54 |
There are loads of demo and outtake tracks in the vaults. The overspill from "The Game" and "The Miracle" would be enough for a 70-minute CD. It'll happen at the same time Queen II is released in the form originally intended. That is, never. Too many vested interests in keeping it quiet. |
Lord Gaga 29.11.2013 20:03 |
Rogers Untidy Bottom wrote: There are loads of demo and outtake tracks in the vaults. The overspill from "The Game" and "The Miracle" would be enough for a 70-minute CD. It'll happen at the same time Queen II is released in the form originally intended. That is, never. Too many vested interests in keeping it quiet.Uh-huh. |
Pim Derks 30.11.2013 02:23 |
I really hope they won't do a Fun On Earth/Another World-type of release and just put together a lot of songs we already know/have. I can't imagine Brian and Roger working on stuff like Dog With A Bone, Robbery or other tracks to be honest... I'm sure they'll want to do songs a bit more thoughtful than that. |
rocknrolllover 30.11.2013 02:41 |
Let me live with Rod Stewart would be good, I think! |
aion 30.11.2013 05:25 |
Oh it's definitely a brilliant idea. I love it. The music world doesn't need a new Portishead album, a new Fleet Foxes album, a new Radiohead album or something like that, what the music world truly needs is a new fake Queen album based around samples of Freddie Mercury's voice found in Brian May's basement. It could be called "Made In Heaven 2: Back From Heaven (And Don't Forget To Watch The Movie!)" This is what I'd like the album to have: - full Queen versions of superb demos of great potential like Robbery, My Secret Fantasy and Silver Salmon. I can easily imagine that they could turn "Robbery" into a haunting ballad and make a rousing 5-minute-long rocker out of "Yeah". - a hardcore techno acid house dubgrimegarage remix of Love Of My Life - Dog With A Bone sung (or howled) by real dogs. - a queenified version of Have A Nice Day aka fan club message 1987. This could be the first single and would have a video by the Torpedo Twins with clips of Freddie playing in an eternal loop set against a background of beautiful blue sky and heartwarming sunset. Clearly Freddie would smile in heaven if he saw this magnificent piece of art - a new version of How Can I Go On where they would remove Montserrat Caballe's vocals and instead he would now sing a duet with Garth Brooks. Since pop country is very popular in the U.S. this would help bring Queen new success in America - new remixes, reworkings or updates of such forgotten, rare gems like 'Made In Heaven', 'The Execution of Flash' and 'Radio Gaga' - a new version of We Are The Champions sung by Justin Bieber. Obviously we need to "update" every old Queen song and what better way to bring this song to modern times than by Freddie's favourite singer? - the last track would be 20 minutes of the sound of someone coming down the stairs with an uplifting opera choir echoing in the background; this would indicate that Freddie is now descenting from Heaven as there is potential for 20 more similar Queen albums! The deluxe edition would have a bonus disc that consists of every word Freddie ever recorded on tape, interviews included, meticulously and painstakingly arranged by Brian and Roger for polka music. I can't wait for it. |
rocknrolllover 30.11.2013 06:25 |
aion wrote: Oh it's definitely a brilliant idea. I love it. The music world doesn't need a new Portishead album, a new Fleet Foxes album, a new Radiohead album or something like that, what the music world truly needs is a new fake Queen album based around samples of Freddie Mercury's voice found in Brian May's basement. It could be called "Made In Heaven 2: Back From Heaven (And Don't Forget To Watch The Movie!)" This is what I'd like the album to have: - full Queen versions of superb demos of great potential like Robbery, My Secret Fantasy and Silver Salmon. I can easily imagine that they could turn "Robbery" into a haunting ballad and make a rousing 5-minute-long rocker out of "Yeah". - a hardcore techno acid house dubgrimegarage remix of Love Of My Life - Dog With A Bone sung (or howled) by real dogs. - a queenified version of Have A Nice Day aka fan club message 1987. This could be the first single and would have a video by the Torpedo Twins with clips of Freddie playing in an eternal loop set against a background of beautiful blue sky and heartwarming sunset. Clearly Freddie would smile in heaven if he saw this magnificent piece of art - a new version of How Can I Go On where they would remove Montserrat Caballe's vocals and instead he would now sing a duet with Garth Brooks. Since pop country is very popular in the U.S. this would help bring Queen new success in America - new remixes, reworkings or updates of such forgotten, rare gems like 'Made In Heaven', 'The Execution of Flash' and 'Radio Gaga' - a new version of We Are The Champions sung by Justin Bieber. Obviously we need to "update" every old Queen song and what better way to bring this song to modern times than by Freddie's favourite singer? - the last track would be 20 minutes of the sound of someone coming down the stairs with an uplifting opera choir echoing in the background; this would indicate that Freddie is now descenting from Heaven as there is potential for 20 more similar Queen albums! The deluxe edition would have a bonus disc that consists of every word Freddie ever recorded on tape, interviews included, meticulously and painstakingly arranged by Brian and Roger for polka music. I can't wait for it.Justin Bieber is sucks |
john bodega 30.11.2013 06:50 |
I'd rather buy a DVD of Monsterrat Caballe falling down a flight of stairs. |
Sebastian 30.11.2013 06:52 |
aion wrote: The deluxe edition would have a bonus disc that consists of every word Freddie ever recorded on tape, interviews included, meticulously and painstakingly arranged by Brian and Roger for polka music.Now that'd indeed be a great idea, but no, they're too lazy for that. Just expect those 'new/old' songs which they discarded ca 2 decades ago because they weren't good enough for 'Hot Space' or 'The Works'. |
gerry 30.11.2013 08:12 |
I disagree with Brian when he says " Made in Heaven" could possibly be the best album Queen have made. What an insult when freddie wasnt even in the studio making the album! Queens best album in my opinion could be : Queen2 or "The Game" So Brian has long last admitted there is more Freddie tracks in the vaults, because he always denied there was. I will say one thing, Brian is good at telling porkies, but he didnt fool me l.o.l |
gerry 30.11.2013 08:19 |
yes i agree with your comments. Brian does tell fibbs at times, He always said there wasnt a scrap of tape with freds on it left, now he says "oh weve found some long lost tracks of fred" yeah right, those tracks have been around as long as freds been dead. Brian always does what suits him and not roger. Freddie had a hard time with brian in the studio theres a audio clip of Queen arguing in the studio where freds accusing Brian of wanting things so perfect word for word! Brian May isan awesome guitarist but hard to work with so it seems !! |
rocknrolllover 30.11.2013 08:24 |
gerry wrote: yes i agree with your comments. Brian does tell fibbs at times, He always said there wasnt a scrap of tape with freds on it left, now he says "oh weve found some long lost tracks of fred" yeah right, those tracks have been around as long as freds been dead. Brian always does what suits him and not roger. Freddie had a hard time with brian in the studio theres a audio clip of Queen arguing in the studio where freds accusing Brian of wanting things so perfect word for word! Brian May isan awesome guitarist but hard to work with so it seems !!If you don't want new Queen album with Freddie voice look for yourself ass on one night. Stop moaning! |
silver_salmon 30.11.2013 09:45 |
It would include three new versions of Say It's not true! |
rocknrolllover 30.11.2013 09:57 |
silver_salmon wrote: It would include three new versions of Say It's not true!Oh no, f**k. No need this song about aids. |
AlexRocks 30.11.2013 10:42 |
That was funny Aion. |
brENsKi 30.11.2013 11:34 |
rocknrolllover wrote: If you don't want new Queen album with Freddie voice look for yourself ass on one night. Stop moaning!Has Yoda choked on his own thoughts ^^^^ seriously, wtf are you trying to say? |
rocknrolllover 30.11.2013 14:16 |
brENsKi wrote:If you didn't understand isn't my guilt!rocknrolllover wrote: If you don't want new Queen album with Freddie voice look for yourself ass on one night. Stop moaning!Has Yoda choked on his own thoughts ^^^^ seriously, wtf are you trying to say? |
princetom 30.11.2013 14:54 |
If you didn't understand isn't my guilt!yes it is. common people tend to communicate with a certain something called language. and that is built on rules. and that makes kind of sense as one is intended to understand what the other says. not only that you fuck up your thoughts by ignoring any grammatical sense. i don't think that you are able to catch the irony of that post you are referring to. so. if you wouldn't be such a pain in the ass, i'd say your a damn poor creature. i don't want to aggress you... but ... dude... you know...!?! there isn't much of a difference for readers between a guy who can't articulate and a person who hasn't something to say. unfortunately you combine both of that. *whatever. sorry for this intermission.* |
Heavenite 30.11.2013 16:21 |
So Brian and Roger lied. So what? The way I see it, that's great news, because it means there are more Freddie tracks to look forward to. I guess he would have been pestered for years if they had told the truth and held out. I can imagine they wanted to keep something in reserve just in case everything else Queen like We Will Rock You and the QE Extravaganza didn't take off. And having a new album come out with with those MJ tracks on it seems like the perfect way to get Queen's and Freddie's name back up in lights before the Freddie movie comes out. I think there could even be more stuff. What if they're holding back some more stuff to be released in years to come by their kids? I mean there were only three new tracks on Made in Heaven, so it might be that there is a quite a bit more, especially if it were to be released as compilation albums with extended hidden tracks with no Freddie vocal pinned on to the end. |
brENsKi 30.11.2013 17:27 |
Heavenite wrote: So Brian and Roger lied. So what? The way I see it, that's great news, because it means there are more Freddie tracks to look forward to. I think there could even be more stuff.honestly? you have no idea how close you are to the truth. but at the same time you're also as far away from the truth as it's possible to be...i'll explain: doesn't matter what point in time you ask Brian or Roger for their honest answer to "how many unreleased tracks are their in the Queen vaults?" because the answer they give you is actually about 10% of the truth.....problem with this is the standard denial from Bri/Rog/QPL of "we didn't know we had those songs/we didn't know how much we had"...because this statement is used EVERY time more stuff is "discovered" - so by default it's going to increase exponentially every time they are asked about some new "discoveries"...fact is - even if there were 800 unreleased tracks - they'd claim there were only 50, then when 100 are discovered in4 yrs time they'll say "oh yeah we never knew we had 100 tracks"...knowing full well they actually have 800 |
the dude 1366 30.11.2013 18:41 |
This site should just be renamed ShitOnBrianMayZone.com. According to many of you, Freddie and John made no mistakes. If Brian doesn't want to do another album he gets shit on. And now that he is talking about making new stuff he gets shit on. How about we hear it before we pass judgement. |
dave76 30.11.2013 18:49 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Exactly, why are you here, if people have an complaint about you jump right up. And take some english typing lessons.gerry wrote: yes i agree with your comments. Brian does tell fibbs at times, He always said there wasnt a scrap of tape with freds on it left, now he says "oh weve found some long lost tracks of fred" yeah right, those tracks have been around as long as freds been dead. Brian always does what suits him and not roger. Freddie had a hard time with brian in the studio theres a audio clip of Queen arguing in the studio where freds accusing Brian of wanting things so perfect word for word! Brian May isan awesome guitarist but hard to work with so it seems !!If you don't want new Queen album with Freddie voice look for yourself ass on one night. Stop moaning! |
Heavenite 30.11.2013 19:07 |
brENsKi wrote:My thoughts exactly brENsKI! It's like they want to make each new "discovery" seems like the last one. If we knew for sure there was heaps of stuff, well there might be some people that would go "meh!". Whereas this way, most people have left them alone for years because they thought that was it, and when each time they "discover" something new, it both simulates a new release in a sense and also comes with the implication that this is really going to be the last one "this time".Heavenite wrote: So Brian and Roger lied. So what? The way I see it, that's great news, because it means there are more Freddie tracks to look forward to. I think there could even be more stuff.honestly? you have no idea how close you are to the truth. but at the same time you're also as far away from the truth as it's possible to be...i'll explain: doesn't matter what point in time you ask Brian or Roger for their honest answer to "how many unreleased tracks are their in the Queen vaults?" because the answer they give you is actually about 10% of the truth.....problem with this is the standard denial from Bri/Rog/QPL of "we didn't know we had those songs/we didn't know how much we had"...because this statement is used EVERY time more stuff is "discovered" - so by default it's going to increase exponentially every time they are asked about some new "discoveries"...fact is - even if there were 800 unreleased tracks - they'd claim there were only 50, then when 100 are discovered in4 yrs time they'll say "oh yeah we never knew we had 100 tracks"...knowing full well they actually have 800 And it works! I mean Made in Heaven went quadruple platinum in the UK. Maybe that's what Brian means when he says it was the best Queen album. Obviously the definition of "platinum" in terms of album sales has changed over the years, but that's more platinum discs than any other single Queen album achieved in the UK, so it's the most successful album, at least in a relative sense. The thing is though, we don't really know for sure how much music is left, so this strategy still works, even though some of us are waking up to the probability that there really is quite a bit more stuff to come. Taken in this light, the announcement of a couple of years ago that a new album was coming, and then Roger's retraction and his remarks about it being a bottom scraping exercise. were really just a way of starting the chatter again and getting the fans excited about the possibility of a new album. I mean they needed to start rekindling some sort of expectation again with fans, (before dashing them) if they were intending on getting something out before the Freddie movie. Just dropping an album out of the blue would not have been half as effective! And quite frankly, if Brian and Roger had announced something was coming to the media as they did a couple of years ago, without ensuring there was enough material, well I think that would have been a ridiculous act from both of them given that Freddie is gone and people had taken years to accept the apparent fact that no more material would be forthcoming. |
musicland munich 30.11.2013 20:48 |
Right now it's just talking...talking ...talking... Who knows what will be on a further album ??? The typical prospects like "I guess we're falling out" etc.??? And yes that the MJ-Tracks were not mentioned makes me think. Maybe they had enough goood material when the MJ-Tracks were given free to release by the Jackson estate. |
brENsKi 01.12.2013 03:41 |
the dude 1366 wrote: This site should just be renamed ShitOnBrianMayZone.com. According to many of you, Freddie and John made no mistakes. If Brian doesn't want to do another album he gets shit on. And now that he is talking about making new stuff he gets shit on. How about we hear it before we pass judgement.depends who you mean by "many of you"...think you should at least have the balls to name who you are accusing. but i'll save you a wasted false accusation: I have never said John/Freddie haven't made mistakes - in fact i've critcised some of their choices/actions down the years. if you were including me in your global broadside then i suggest you read my post again, if you weren't accusing me then i retract this. but either way you should be clearer about who you are levelling accusations at |
rocknrolllover 01.12.2013 04:22 |
dave76 wrote:enough teach me, look at yourself first.rocknrolllover wrote:Exactly, why are you here, if people have an complaint about you jump right up. And take some english typing lessons.gerry wrote: yes i agree with your comments. Brian does tell fibbs at times, He always said there wasnt a scrap of tape with freds on it left, now he says "oh weve found some long lost tracks of fred" yeah right, those tracks have been around as long as freds been dead. Brian always does what suits him and not roger. Freddie had a hard time with brian in the studio theres a audio clip of Queen arguing in the studio where freds accusing Brian of wanting things so perfect word for word! Brian May isan awesome guitarist but hard to work with so it seems !!If you don't want new Queen album with Freddie voice look for yourself ass on one night. Stop moaning! |
brENsKi 01.12.2013 05:43 |
gerry wrote: Freddie had a hard time with brian in the studio theres a audio clip of Queen arguing in the studio where freds accusing Brian of wanting things so perfect word for word! Brian May isan awesome guitarist but hard to work with so it seems !!Gerry this isn't anything new - most bands have a hard time "living" in the claustrophobic environment of the studio together. Daltrey is supposed to have knocked Townsend out during the recording of "Quadrophenia" by the time Floyd got to "The Final Cut" (1983) the band were fighting all the time - Waters is even quoted as saying "we were not a band and had not been in accord for a long time. Not since 1975, when we made Wish You Were Here." Blackmore vs Gillan is the stuff of legends - he'd been a challenging band-mate for most of his recording career - only Lord/Powell and Paice ever really knew how to get on with him. - mind you i prefer Blackers and his musical integrity to Gillan's current "Pantomime Purple" anyhow, i suppose what i'm saying is that all big bands fight in the studio - Queen were no exception |
Sebastian 01.12.2013 05:46 |
Heavenite wrote: My thoughts exactly brENsKI! It's like they want to make each new "discovery" seems like the last one.Some bands/acts have like a gazillion 'farewell' tours. If it's profitable enough, Queen may end up having a gazillion posthumous 'last scraps' albums. Heavenite wrote: And it works! I mean Made in Heaven went quadruple platinum in the UK. Maybe that's what Brian means when he says it was the best Queen album.It's probably a major factor indeed. He's a businessman after all, so he's not just making music for the sake of it... and he's entitled to. The problem about many fans is that they see things quite B/W or greyscale at best: if you're not a deluded stepford who blindly worships everything they do, then you're a bitter cynic who's got an agenda to demonise Dr May and who's never gonna be happy with anything. Anyway, the thing is, that's their job: they're entertainers. Their task is to come up with successful records and tours. How do you measure success in a capitalist world? By the money you make. How do you make money in this case? By selling loads of records (either physically or on-line) and loads of tickets (plus memorabilia, etc,). That's why a major part of their job is to publicly say/imply/claim/suggest things that will help those records and tours sell. 'Truth' is not a factor, and it shouldn't be: it's their job to ensure whatever comes out of their mouths (or Twitter account, Soapbox, etc.) will excite the fans and maximise their chance of selling well. So, there needn't be any truth in 'this is the last one' or 'he was Freddie's favourite' or 'we're gonna play this song on stage for the very first time ever'. It's just something they say to prompt their clients to make. Fortunately for them, loads of their clients are either too ignorant, or too naive, or too stupid, to notice. |
Donna13 01.12.2013 07:44 |
I think they will want some musical surprises for the movie, something we haven't heard yet, being played in a studio scene and/or a scene at Garden Lodge. Then the finished song(s), completed by Brian and Roger, could be released with the movie soundtrack. Sounds like fun to me. Something to look forward to (in my imagination). |
matt z 02.12.2013 04:55 |
Look for yourself ass on one night! LOOK! |
Heavenite 02.12.2013 06:02 |
Sebastian wrote: That's why a major part of their job is to publicly say/imply/claim/suggest things that will help those records and tours sell. 'Truth' is not a factor, and it shouldn't be: it's their job to ensure whatever comes out of their mouths (or Twitter account, Soapbox, etc.) will excite the fans and maximise their chance of selling well.That's it Sebastian. They're entertainers. And the excitement and the build up are a very big part in that. The truth hardly matters in that respect. Maybe they will tell us all about any plans they had one day (if we are right!), just like they did about how they lied to protect Freddie towards the end. |
Heavenite 02.12.2013 06:07 |
Donna13 wrote: I think they will want some musical surprises for the movie, something we haven't heard yet, being played in a studio scene and/or a scene at Garden Lodge. Then the finished song(s), completed by Brian and Roger, could be released with the movie soundtrack. Sounds like fun to me. Something to look forward to (in my imagination).Now that really would be cool Donna! Although unfortunately I am thinking that the album would have the actor doing at least a big part of the vocal. Beyond that, I am also thinking any Freddie in the soundtrack is probably going to be mostly stuff the fans know already, since the general public will be want to recognise the songs when they go to the movie, |
Adam Baboolal 02.12.2013 10:05 |
Can I just point something out to those pointing their fingers at the Queen archive? When Brian says that they found stuff, you do realise it's totally possible, right? I mean, when I go through my own personal recordings from the years, I might find something that surprises me. Something that I did, that I forgot! Recordings of people I'd forgotten about. Or something else I didn't even know I had kept! And remember, I'm a lot closer to my personal archive which, as it happens, is sitting no more than a metre away on a shelf right now. It's pretty minimal! lol My point is, Brian will have something similar in his home (more organised, I'm sure!). But more likely, he's been as cut off from the Queen archive as any rock star is from their works. My overall point here, is this - just because they lived it, recorded it, heard it, saw it - this means nothing in the grand scheme of things. And the reason I say that is because I've experienced the wonder at going back and finding things I never knew I had. So, with a little less cynicism in the air, maybe you'll see the point I'm trying to make. Either that, or Dude 1366 was right and you'll likely disregard what I'm trying to say and resume the Brian bashing. :P |
Sebastian 02.12.2013 11:30 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: My overall point here, is this - just because they lived it, recorded it, heard it, saw it - this means nothing in the grand scheme of things.Moreover, there's the (actually rather big) possibility of the existence of stuff that Brian didn't live, record, hear or saw. There were Queen songs that had no input from Roger (e.g., One Year of Love, where the drums were programmed by John on a Linn computer), songs that had no input from John (e.g., Sheer Heart Attack), songs that had no input from Freddie (e.g., Good Company) and songs that had no input from Brian (e.g., Cool Cat). Just like Brian wasn't on the original HfE or the original IWBtLY, there could be a song that Fred recorded on his own (but for a Queen project), or just with Roger, or just with John, or just with Roger and John, and which Brian didn't know about. Adam Baboolal wrote: resume the Brian bashing. :PThis is not Brian bashing, at all. |
Thistle 02.12.2013 12:59 |
Brenski, there are way too many Brian bashers to mention them all by name. Everyone has done it at some point, as not every venture he enters into is received with aplomb by everyone. Even I've done it, amongst the support I've also expressed. Dude is right - quite often Brian is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Some of us do it some of the time, some do it all of the time - but not all of us all of the time lol. I can see why you've responded the way you did though :) |
brENsKi 02.12.2013 16:36 |
understand what you're saying fella. i responded to Dudes post because it followed immediately after my post. in absence of him actually quoting anyone, it was all i had to go on |
Heavenite 03.12.2013 10:19 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Can I just point something out to those pointing their fingers at the Queen archive? When Brian says that they found stuff, you do realise it's totally possible, right? I mean, when I go through my own personal recordings from the years, I might find something that surprises me. Something that I did, that I forgot! Recordings of people I'd forgotten about. Or something else I didn't even know I had kept! And remember, I'm a lot closer to my personal archive which, as it happens, is sitting no more than a metre away on a shelf right now. It's pretty minimal! lol My point is, Brian will have something similar in his home (more organised, I'm sure!). But more likely, he's been as cut off from the Queen archive as any rock star is from their works. My overall point here, is this - just because they lived it, recorded it, heard it, saw it - this means nothing in the grand scheme of things. And the reason I say that is because I've experienced the wonder at going back and finding things I never knew I had. So, with a little less cynicism in the air, maybe you'll see the point I'm trying to make. Either that, or Dude 1366 was right and you'll likely disregard what I'm trying to say and resume the Brian bashing. :PHi Adam I am not a Brian basher! Far from it. In fact, my posts were saying what they were doing (if they are doing it!) is pretty much in the fans' interest. Having said that, it sounds like you definitely know about these things and have a point! However,I think these facts might (or might not) also be relevant: (1) Freddie knew his days were numbered for a long time and seems to have focussed heavily on making music during his last years for his fans. (2) Queen went straight back to Montreaux to start writing and recording once Innuendo was released. So far we have received only three new tracks, one of which is supposed to be sort of a Dave Richards reworking. (3) We were also told that Freddie told the others to write all the lines they could when his time was running out so he could sing them and they could do something with it later. (4) Straight after Freddie's death, I remember reports in the Australian media (where I live) saying that Queen had between 3 and 8 albums left in the can. However later the band were to say that there was nothing more to come. (5) The songs on the Freddie Mercury Album were largely made up of tracks from Mr Bad Guy plus his solo singles. However, some of what I would consider the best tracks on Mr Bad Guy were "missing" on the Freddie Mercury Album. ((6) In 1995 we were told that in fact there was enough material and Made in Heaven materialised. Interestingly some of the "best tracks" from Mr Bad Guy that were not included on the Freddie Mercury Album did get a suitable Queen treatment in line with the atmosphere of the then new album. The suggestion might therefore be that they had been originally left off The Freddie Mercury Album precisely for this purpose. (7) Then we were told once again that there was nothing more to come. (8) Years later, with news of a Freddie Mercury movie in the offing, Roger and Brian suddenly talk about going into the studio to see if they can make another album from what's left of the band's work with Freddie. They then give up with Roger saying that he doesn't want to be part of a bottom-scraping exercise. (8) Movie still coming and some sort of album is definitely back on the agenda. Brian is saying that there really is quite a lot of stuff that has only recently been uncovered, but he's unsure if there is enough for an album. Now these things might all be just coincidences rather than something that was well planned (I mean I doubt they could have known about Jacko's death beforehand, unless they referred Conrad Murray to him...lol!). But like I said, the way I see it, I don't really care if its been planned or if it is indeed accidental. I'm just glad that we have one more Queen album still to come (hopefully more!) and then a movie about Freddie's life to boot. It's pretty awesome actually! PS By the way, I agree with Sebastian. There is no Brian bashing going on here. Just a bit of speculation. I actually just received a copy of Brian's book Bang! Hope we also see him back in the studio doing another studio album of his own one day. And I already have Back to the Light, Another World. Furia and his Starfleet Project. |
e-man 03.12.2013 11:36 |
has anyone mentioned the "david richards tape" from a few years back? Grand Dame and Affairs I believe the tracks were called? |
zazzizwaziziz 04.12.2013 09:07 |
good. |
Vocal harmony 04.12.2013 11:34 |
Between 3 and 8 album left in the can??? Only the media could come up with those numbers. As regards BM and RT saying that they've found some Freddie recordings, we don't know if they are whole finished songs, run through of songs that they were working on with a guide vocal that maybe is usable if the song is recorded properly or even scrapped out takes that can be fashioned into something new. They could have said nothing about the stuff that's been found, they may have known about but assumed that it had been dumped or lost long ago. They may have forgotten about a lot of it. |
brENsKi 04.12.2013 13:05 |
e-man wrote: has anyone mentioned the "david richards tape" from a few years back? Grand Dame and Affairs I believe the tracks were called?yes. YOU....just here ^^^ |
Heavenite 04.12.2013 13:53 |
Vocal harmony wrote: Between 3 and 8 album left in the can??? Only the media could come up with those numbers. As regards BM and RT saying that they've found some Freddie recordings, we don't know if they are whole finished songs, run through of songs that they were working on with a guide vocal that maybe is usable if the song is recorded properly or even scrapped out takes that can be fashioned into something new. They could have said nothing about the stuff that's been found, they may have known about but assumed that it had been dumped or lost long ago. They may have forgotten about a lot of it.Yes, they could have said nothing. There are are no certainties here. But then there would have been no publicity for the apparently forthcoming album, whatever form it takes. My impression is that everyone had pretty much switched off to the possiblity of something new before Brian and Roger came out and stated they were going to try and see if there was enough material to make another album. At the time I assumed the point about there being 3 and 8 albums still in the can would have come from the record company, as it was reported in the mainstream Australian media at the time of Freddie's passing. It took a while before it became clear to me that the band itself was actually saying something quite different. So maybe it was someone in the media or someone from the local branch of the record company that knew nothing at all really. |
malicedoom 04.12.2013 15:10 |
I remember the big "There are MANY ALBUMS worth of new, unreleased material left out there!!!" rumor when it first surfaced. It was around 2 years after Freddie passed, so 2 years before Made In Heaven was released. At the time, their reply was that there was probably not enough new material left to even release a single (full) album, but that they were looking to see what they could do. As it turns out, that quote pretty much ended up being right on the money considering how Made In Heaven was put together, no? Seems like they answered pretty honestly. |
zazzizwaziziz 04.12.2013 19:35 |
malicedoom wrote: I remember the big "There are MANY ALBUMS worth of new, unreleased material left out there!!!" rumor when it first surfaced. It was around 2 years after Freddie passed, so 2 years before Made In Heaven was released. At the time, their reply was that there was probably not enough new material left to even release a single (full) album, but that they were looking to see what they could do. As it turns out, that quote pretty much ended up being right on the money considering how Made In Heaven was put together, no? Seems like they answered pretty honestly.but that could have been because of the nature of the made in heaven project it was going to be a farewell send off to Freddie. so required a certain kind of music, music that had not been done before, ambience and instrumentals etc, and only certain pre made demos and song that fitted the feeling of the album were used |
Sebastian 05.12.2013 06:50 |
zazzizwaziziz wrote: only certain pre made demos and song that fitted the feeling of the album were usedThat's indeed a very good point. Another one is that certain songs that didn't qualify for the albums could've been rejected for reasons other than their perceived quality. Maybe there wasn't enough room, maybe Freddie didn't like them (and now that he's dead he can't veto them), maybe John didn't like them (and now that he's retired he's not gonna get in the way), maybe Roger didn't like them and now he's changed his mind, maybe Brian didn't like them and now he's changed his mind, maybe there was already something else on the album which was quite similar, etc. We all know how 'Human Body' got demoted to B-Side because Maycury thought the album was already 'melodic enough' (I assume they meant they'd already got sufficient ballads with PtG, SM and SASS, and AHB would've been one too many). That'd also explain why IaBD (too melodic and also just Freddie at that point) also remained unreleased for 15 years, until they found it'd make a good opener for the posthumous project. It doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't good enough for The Game (it's, IMO, way better than Dragon Attack, Don't Try Suicide, Another One Bites the Dust and Coming Soon combined, not that it's saying much though...). |
Heavenite 05.12.2013 07:18 |
Sebastian wrote:Yes, and it certainly seems surprising that I Was Born to Love You and Made in Heaven were not included on The Freddie Mercury Album if there was no ulterior motive about releasing them later on. I mean I Was Born to Love You was a really bouncy number on the Mr Bad Guy album and had to be slowed down and a great deal of ambience added before it was really suitable to be included on the MIH project..zazzizwaziziz wrote: only certain pre made demos and song that fitted the feeling of the album were usedThat's indeed a very good point. Another one is that certain songs that didn't qualify for the albums could've been rejected for reasons other than their perceived quality. Maybe there wasn't enough room, maybe Freddie didn't like them (and now that he's dead he can't veto them), maybe John didn't like them (and now that he's retired he's not gonna get in the way), maybe Roger didn't like them and now he's changed his mind, maybe Brian didn't like them and now he's changed his mind, maybe there was already something else on the album which was quite similar, etc. We all know how 'Human Body' got demoted to B-Side because Maycury thought the album was already 'melodic enough' (I assume they meant they'd already got sufficient ballads with PtG, SM and SASS, and AHB would've been one too many). That'd also explain why IaBD (too melodic and also just Freddie at that point) also remained unreleased for 15 years, until they found it'd make a good opener for the posthumous project. It doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't good enough for The Game (it's, IMO, way better than Dragon Attack, Don't Try Suicide, Another One Bites the Dust and Coming Soon combined, not that it's saying much though...). And I mean the alternative would have been Brian, Roger and John saying something like "hey its great and really lucky that Made In Heaven wasn't included on The Freddie Mercury Album. Cos its a really great track and now we can even use it as the title track for the album we are going to make." Maybe! But I doubt it. |
Heavenite 05.12.2013 07:40 |
malicedoom wrote: I remember the big "There are MANY ALBUMS worth of new, unreleased material left out there!!!" rumor when it first surfaced. It was around 2 years after Freddie passed, so 2 years before Made In Heaven was released. At the time, their reply was that there was probably not enough new material left to even release a single (full) album, but that they were looking to see what they could do. As it turns out, that quote pretty much ended up being right on the money considering how Made In Heaven was put together, no? Seems like they answered pretty honestly.You might be right malice! However an alternative theory might be that they were conserving the remaining new music that they had to times when the audience was less receptive to Queen's music. I mean this was the first posthumous album,so rereleasing the best of the solo albums and b-sides meant that the the mainstream wouldn't have heard these songs before and the quality was high. And if you're right, then Brian and Roger really are just discovering stuff now after all these years. It is possible I guess. That rumour about many albums is interesting too! I mean who started it? As I said, I heard a similar thing through the Australian media right at the time of Freddie's death. Now that's a bit strange! I also know that I heard in about 1990, that Prince said he would be able to release more new material until about the year 2030 if he continued to release albums at the same rate he was doing at the time. Doesn't mean it's true about Queen too of course, but next year's album, if it eventuates, will be the second posthumous release. Hope we don't have to wait so long if there's going to be a third! |
malicedoom 05.12.2013 08:20 |
Yeah, regarding the "I Was Born To Love You" and "Made In Heaven" tracks, I just assumed they were kept off The Great Pretender/The Freddie Mercury Album on purpose so they could be re-worked as Queen songs somewhere down the road. That always made sense me. I guess my main point was I don't think there's any really big gems still out there as some people have speculated and were claiming even back then. I wouldn't doubt there's still some unreleased stuff, sure - maybe quite a bit - but I'm guessing it's of far less quality than what the 'Made In Heaven' album provided us. Just my $0.02. |
Lord Gaga 05.12.2013 10:54 |
Yeah, I don't think it was a coincidence that some songs were left off The Great Pretender/FM Album. In fact, I read on QOL from someone a few degrees from "in the know" that it was deliberate that Born To Love You, Made In Heaven, More To Life, and Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow were absent from that album, because Brian, Roger, and John might have had plans to work on those songs at some point. The only thing that doesn't necessarily line up is that TGP/FMAlbum were released in 1992, and Brian, Roger, and John didn't start working on MIH until 1993. Perhaps they just wanted dibs on some of the stronger material from Mr. Bad Guy (thankfully, they left Barcelona alone) and earmarked those four for possibilities. |
Heavenite 05.12.2013 14:20 |
So Queen may well have been thinking about what to release on Made in Heaven before 1993. Nothing wrong with that, but that's not what we were told. And if those other two tracks were also left off to be worked on later, did they have other tracks ready to join them on another compilation album? I noticed Brian did use that term (i.e. compilation album) in an interview recently. And based on the MIH model, they would only need a few new tracks while the rest could be more reworked best of the solos and b-sides tracks, which the mainstream would never have heard of either. So that would explain where the next album is coming from. I don't think I could argue beyond that based on what we know unless those "many albums" rumours really were true. I mean If there were to be a third posthumous album, then I think it would have to be drawn from other sources. Given they have signed that new contract, maybe we will just start seeing some albums featuring some interesting alternative versions, live tracks and maybe some demos not considered good enough for release on a fully fledged album. |
shamar 05.12.2013 16:59 |
DOUBLE POST. Please delete :) |
shamar 05.12.2013 17:00 |
"My Love is Dangerous" .It has GREAT version called (rock) REMIX. Don't need Queen version. "In my defence" has GREAT version too. What's wrong with U :) |
M-train 05.12.2013 18:38 |
You know I find it interesting that Brian "found" all of these unheard demo's. The topic that brought up the question, if there was anything left with Freddie's vocals, was hashed out here on Queenzone a few years ago, and the general conscious was that they used up everything they had to make MIH. I have to wonder if Brian was kinda leading us on with that one. |
Vocal harmony 06.12.2013 11:57 |
This thing about Brian has found x y or z is so misleading. He has never, to my knowledge, said I have found. I believe his words were we, which to me implies the organization or record company, not one person. There does seem to be a willingness to jump on anything BM says, and in the process accuse him of what ever appears to fit. |
Missreclusive 06.12.2013 13:47 |
This may be really silly questions/statements however...what was Freddie's life about? What was he absolutely driven towards? Music and recording. How would anyone believe that there isn't far more than they let on? My opinion is that there are plenty of demos and full recordings that have been held back for whatever reasons. When you live for music as Freddie did, there has to be a LOT more, especially considering the number of years he was an artist. For example. I work for a gentleman who was Elvis P.s bunk mate in the service. Elvis would sit and play guitar and sing a lot. This man I work for has his own reel to reel recordings of many of those sessions. These have never been heard...nor will he share them. Tell me there isn't far more of Freddie out there! |
M-train 06.12.2013 16:33 |
Missreclusive wrote: For example. I work for a gentleman who was Elvis P.s bunk mate in the service. Elvis would sit and play guitar and sing a lot. This man I work for has his own reel to reel recordings of many of those sessions. These have never been heard...nor will he share them. Tell me there isn't far more of Freddie out there!You do know that Elvis is still alive don't you............of course his name is Jon Cotner...lol. link Of course this guy Jon has really got things stirred up. One thing I can say is that his speaking voice, and singing voice is DEAD ON. No other tribute artist comes as close to Jon in sounding like the real deal............ |
musicland munich 11.12.2013 12:17 |
That story about "shelfed" songs is true and no myth or disremembering. Just for example a snippet from early in 94 (german youth magazine) basicly in this snippet they(Brian May) announced Queen Tour with George Michaels (Picture montage)...later that tour was ruled out by a statement from Roger... but anyway ! Back to topic...it says that about 200 Queen songs were shelfed in various studios. Other sources from inside the industrie mentioned about material that would be enough for five or six new albums. True? - false? - I don't know. |
Martin Packer 11.12.2013 15:15 |
"Live at Brixton University" indeed. :-) |
musicland munich 11.12.2013 18:02 |
Yeah the release of "live at Brixton University" were mentioned too. it wasn't released at that point so don't blame them for the little mistake "Academy" would fit better. |
Apocalipsis_Darko 11.12.2013 19:16 |
What to write... There are songs, you have the demos from The Miracle and Innuendo, but...are all good songs to be release? That's perhaps the problem. Must be better publish in a box set like the F.M. box set someones, other reworking... The Freddie Mercury Album/The Great Pretender was hated by the people who worked with Freddie in that songs. And I even put what one of the remixes thought about do that compilation. |
Heavenite 12.12.2013 04:49 |
musicland munich wrote: That story about "shelfed" songs is true and no myth or disremembering. Just for example a snippet from early in 94 (german youth magazine) basicly in this snippet they(Brian May) announced Queen Tour with George Michaels (Picture montage)...later that tour was ruled out by a statement from Roger... but anyway ! Back to topic...it says that about 200 Queen songs were shelfed in various studios. Other sources from inside the industrie mentioned about material that would be enough for five or six new albums. True? - false? - I don't know.Fascinating stuff! I guess there would be quality issues to think of if this stuff does exist. Beyond that, I reckon it's all about maximising the band's legacy. And if the stuff is of high quality, then what else would they be waiting for? The only thing I can think of is they want to give people born later on a Queen treat as well. I mean in some ways releasing a Queen album now will be like releasing it into an alien environment full of such things as divas and rappers. |
luthorn 12.12.2013 09:27 |
I believe it when I hear it. Until then, the last worthy release, Live at the Bowl, was almost 10 years ago. Time goes by and aside from fairy tails, we have heard or seen nothing new over the last decade. I doubt we will see anything new. |