dave76 16.09.2013 04:38 |
TITLE: FUN ON EARTH TRACKLISTING: 1. One Night Stand! 04:22 2. Fight Club 03:02 3. Be With You 03:10 4. Quality Street 04:25 5. I Don't Care 03:24 6. Woman You're So Beautiful! 03:38 7. Be My Gal (My Brightest Spark) 02:45 8. I Am The Drummer (In A Rock 'n' Roll Band) 02:47 9. Small 03:51 10. Say It's Not True 04:58 11. The Unblinking Eye – Abridged 04:54 12. Up 03:10 13. Smile 03:01 TITLE: the lot CONTENTS: 8 original albums and 4 compilation discs 1. Fun In Space 2. Strange Frontier 3. Happiness 4. Electric Fire 5. Shove It (The Cross) 6. Mad Bad & Dangerous to Know (The Cross) 7. Blue Rock (The Cross) 8. Fun on Earth (new album + 2 new tracks for box only) 9. 4 x discs CD compilation (title TBC) 1 DVD - content –promo videos and extras Your thoughts? |
cmsdrums 16.09.2013 04:40 |
My thought is that I wish they'd hurry up and announce what exactly is on the rumoured 4x extra discs and 1 x dvd! |
Vali 16.09.2013 04:48 |
Amen to that ! this tracklisting is becoming "old news" by now, can't understand why it's taking this long to have the official full press release confirming all the details, most specially for those misterious 4 cd's in The Lot |
dave76 16.09.2013 05:07 |
looking at the content, it could be looking like the freddie solo boxset which was 10 cd's and 2 dvd's. |
philip storey 16.09.2013 05:12 |
This is not going to be cheap,need to start saving up ! How much do yo guys think it will cost for the lot ? |
dave76 16.09.2013 05:34 |
in euro's here the dutch online store bol.com 135 euro's |
Pingfah 16.09.2013 06:23 |
That's really pretty reasonable for 12 albums and a DVD, especially considering some of those discs already cost 20 euros second hand. |
Queen1973 16.09.2013 06:36 |
Well i will buy The lot and not bother with album on its own is theres 2 extra tracks on The lot version whats the point spending more on the rest. Ok time to put my originals for sale anyone want. Cd version roger taylor strange frontier/fun in space/happiness/strange frontier The cross Blue rock. £5.00 each message me for details. |
Queen1973 16.09.2013 06:41 |
dave76 wrote: TITLE: FUN ON EARTH TRACKLISTING: 1. One Night Stand! 04:22 2. Fight Club 03:02 3. Be With You 03:10 4. Quality Street 04:25 5. I Don't Care 03:24 6. Woman You're So Beautiful! 03:38 7. Be My Gal (My Brightest Spark) 02:45 8. I Am The Drummer (In A Rock 'n' Roll Band) 02:47 9. Small 03:51 10. Say It's Not True 04:58 11. The Unblinking Eye – Abridged 04:54 12. Up 03:10 13. Smile 03:01 TITLE: the lot CONTENTS: 8 original albums and 4 compilation discs 1. Fun In Space 2. Strange Frontier 3. Happiness 4. Electric Fire 5. Shove It (The Cross) 6. Mad Bad & Dangerous to Know (The Cross) 7. Blue Rock (The Cross) 8. Fun on Earth (new album + 2 new tracks for box only) 9. 4 x discs CD compilation (title TBC) 1 DVD - content –promo videos and extras Your thoughts?Amzing were did you get this info from. |
dave76 16.09.2013 07:22 |
i got it from the steve hoffman audio corner but according to gary taylor on facebook, this is not the definitive track listing so it's not 100% correct. there will be a press release soon he said. |
The Fairy King 16.09.2013 07:42 |
This looks promising, but i see a lot of claims without sources. Like the bol.com thing, Dave? I couldn't find it on the bol.com site. |
dave76 16.09.2013 07:46 |
link |
The Fairy King 16.09.2013 08:50 |
dave76 wrote: linkThanks :) |
The Fairy King 16.09.2013 09:07 |
Dunno, but get the feeling this pic will be used to promote "The Lot" or maybe used as the cover. ">link |
Queen1973 16.09.2013 09:14 |
That was used for happiness(like) |
The Fairy King 16.09.2013 09:29 |
Queen1973 wrote: That was used for happiness(like)Oh rearyyyyyy? :D That's new to me![/sarcasm] |
Vali 16.09.2013 09:30 |
these are the suposed covers for Fun On Earth & The Lot ... |
Vali 16.09.2013 09:30 |
**edit** double post |
The Real Wizard 16.09.2013 13:09 |
The smashed drum kit from (presumably) 1978 is just friggin epic. But the text is atrocious. |
bryony 16.09.2013 13:19 |
Please tell me these will have VINYL releases as well - can't see the point of CD only ?! |
cmsdrums 16.09.2013 13:42 |
The point of CD only is having the music in a convenient, but still quality sounding, tried and tested format. Yes, vinyl would be lovely and will sound great, but to say you can't see the point of CD only is stretching it a bit! |
The Fairy King 16.09.2013 15:03 |
I have the first 3 albums on vinyl, which is enough for me. Releasing everything on vinyl would really push the price up. |
MadTheSwine73 16.09.2013 18:36 |
I'd love to have all of Roger's stuff on vinyl. I've only ever come across Fun In Space in stores, which I bought. Whether the box set comes out in vinyl format, I don't know, but I'd love to have his new album on vinyl! |
Pingfah 17.09.2013 04:55 |
I really hope there is a standalone vinyl release of the new album, as I have all of the Cross & Roger albums on vinyl. I don't see a vinyl boxset happening though.
MadTheSwine73 wrote: I'd love to have all of Roger's stuff on vinyl. I've only ever come across Fun In Space in stores, which I bought.Apart from Blue Rock, Happiness and Electric Fire all of Roger's solo & The Cross LPs are cheap as chips and plentiful on Ebay. |
rschoorl 17.09.2013 05:36 |
I would imagine it is safe to say that this box set will not be released in North America, I just hope that the DVD is playable. |
inu-liger 17.09.2013 05:38 |
Even if the DVD is regionally or format-wise not compatible with your player, there is DVD ripping software out there. |
Pingfah 17.09.2013 07:00 |
Yep, most normal DVD rippers will read the disc as a data disc and rip it to your computer completely bypassing the region coding. Also, VLC player will ignore the region coding on DVDs depending on what DVD drive you are using. I've not yet come across a standalone DVD player that didn't have a handset hack for removing the region locking anyway. You can check if your player has a handset hack at the link below: link |
GT 17.09.2013 07:08 |
There will be no vinyl box set or LP. |
dudeofqueen 17.09.2013 07:09 |
When are we likely to see the full tracklisting for the box set Gary? |
Pingfah 17.09.2013 07:44 |
Thank you for the info GT, appreciated. |
GT 17.09.2013 08:11 |
Soon. |
thomasquinn 32989 17.09.2013 08:44 |
Is there any reason for the full tracklist being withheld for a disproportionally long time? You have to admit, GT, it's pretty unusual for a tracklist to not be available a mere few weeks before the set release date. |
MackMantilla 17.09.2013 08:55 |
GT wrote: There will be no vinyl box set or LP.): |
MackMantilla 17.09.2013 08:55 |
rschoorl wrote: I would imagine it is safe to say that this box set will not be released in North America..I think the same |
Pingfah 17.09.2013 09:09 |
Strange that there's no vinyl for the new album, you'd have thought a limited run of maybe a coloured vinyl would go like hotcakes. |
people on streets 17.09.2013 09:38 |
GT wrote: There will be no vinyl box set or LP.That's a bloody shame. If there is no LP I will be downloading the box. Perfectly legal in my country. |
people on streets 17.09.2013 09:39 |
Pingfah wrote: Strange that there's no vinyl for the new album, you'd have thought a limited run of maybe a coloured vinyl would go like hotcakes.Indeed. Look at the Brian May + Kerry Ellis: "Acoustic by candlelight" LP. 500 made. All sold out now. |
people on streets 17.09.2013 09:41 |
double post |
Pingfah 17.09.2013 09:51 |
Exactly, and if I am not mistaken,that album didn't even make the top 100. I expect Roger's album will impact the top 100 for at least a week. |
fertini 17.09.2013 10:39 |
what about price ??? In Italy some online stores have it at a preorder price of 162 euros .... LOT link eur 161.99 FOE link eur 24.99 LOT seems to be a bit expensive, compared to the FM Boxset some years ago and considering a Queen-related release. |
people on streets 17.09.2013 11:16 |
fertini wrote: what about price ??? In Italy some online stores have it at a preorder price of 162 euros .... LOT link eur 161.99 FOE link eur 24.99 LOT seems to be a bit expensive, compared to the FM Boxset some years ago and considering a Queen-related release.Over a decade ago you mean. The price for The Lot box is normal if you ask me. |
inu-liger 17.09.2013 15:12 |
Indeed, taking into account normal inflation plus the ongoing byproducts of shitty economies and music piracy worldwide. |
brians wig 17.09.2013 15:56 |
Take into account the prices of other special releases by artists on Island records, Queen's stuff is extortionate. Hell, Belinda Carlisle (stop laughing and yes, it's a different label), just released 4 of her albums remastered, with all associated remixes and B sides AND a DVD of Promos for less than £10 each. Mike Oldfield has done similar stuff these last few years for no more than £15 an album - and that includes surround mixes and a DVD. Queen just don't give a shit and want the most money for the least effort. |
inu-liger 17.09.2013 16:14 |
Apples and oranges as far as brands go. Queen are still a huge powerhouse as far as public perception goes, so of course (no thanks to the enabler "Greatest Hits crowd") QPL are going to feel entitled to raise their products' MSRP high because they know more people will be likely to shell out money for their products than they will for "that Heaven Is A Place On Earth singer"*, whose popularity is probably questionable by Joe Public standards. It's sick and twisted, but that's the mentality of big name b(r)ands for you and therefore the sad reality we have to deal with these days. *Disclaimer: I'm not knocking heavily on Belinda as an artist. I do like a bit of her music, don't get me wrong :-) |
Pim Derks 17.09.2013 23:00 |
No "Fun On Earth" LP? :( |
Lplix 18.09.2013 00:44 |
I hope that Lot will be a limited max 5000/10000 pieces edition looking at the price, with some "surprise" inside, like a remaster of Shove it (for example); I buyed the european edition and the USA edition of the Cd when they comes out and i found that the european edition, if you open every track with the spectrum analysis, you will see that it seems lossy. This thing is also visible in Heaven for everyone track in the Freddie boxset. I like roger style, since i buyed my first queen album (1980), but He's not Elvis or Freddie to to justify the price indicated in the sites BOL or Mondadori; in 2001 I payed 300000 Italian lire (approx. 160 euros) for Freddie's collection, now the same price for Roger seems a little expansive even considering the lust for QPL and Universal / Island. Hoping in an Amazon great price i wait the full tracklist of the four "mysterious" cds. best wishes P.s. : Who will be next ? Brian or maybe........john ? |
rocknrolllover 18.09.2013 00:51 |
Lplix wrote: I hope that Lot will be a limited max 5000/10000 pieces edition looking at the price, with some "surprise" inside, like a remaster of Shove it (for example); I buyed the european edition and the USA edition of the Cd when they comes out and i found that the european edition, if you open every track with the spectrum analysis, you will see that it seems lossy. This thing is also visible in Heaven for everyone track in the Freddie boxset. I like roger style, since i buyed my first queen album (1980), but He's not Elvis or Freddie to to justify the price indicated in the sites BOL or Mondadori; in 2001 I payed 300000 Italian lire (approx. 160 euros) for Freddie's collection, now the same price for Roger seems a little expansive even considering the lust for QPL and Universal / Island. Hoping in an Amazon great price i wait the full tracklist of the four "mysterious" cds. best wishes P.s. : Who will be next ? Brian or maybe........john ?Your English is bad |
Cruella de Vil 18.09.2013 03:16 |
How good is your Italian? |
rocknrolllover 18.09.2013 04:13 |
CruellaDeVille wrote: How good is your Italian?Lol! |
Lplix 18.09.2013 06:29 |
sorry, error. |
Lplix 18.09.2013 06:32 |
rocknrolllover wrote:hi,Lplix wrote: I hope that Lot will be a limited max 5000/10000 pieces edition looking at the price, with some "surprise" inside, like a remaster of Shove it (for example); I buyed the european edition and the USA edition of the Cd when they comes out and i found that the european edition, if you open every track with the spectrum analysis, you will see that it seems lossy. This thing is also visible in Heaven for everyone track in the Freddie boxset. I like roger style, since i buyed my first queen album (1980), but He's not Elvis or Freddie to to justify the price indicated in the sites BOL or Mondadori; in 2001 I payed 300000 Italian lire (approx. 160 euros) for Freddie's collection, now the same price for Roger seems a little expansive even considering the lust for QPL and Universal / Island. Hoping in an Amazon great price i wait the full tracklist of the four "mysterious" cds. best wishes P.s. : Who will be next ? Brian or maybe........john ?Your English is bad try to translate my text in Italian without a translator so I rate your Italian. no offense, of course. than, if you (and everyone who read my posts) understand what i mean for me is enough. best regards |
dudeofqueen 18.09.2013 08:39 |
Any chance you lot can take this translation thing elsewhere? Very boring. |
Pingfah 18.09.2013 09:18 |
Well, who pissed in your cornflakes? |
AlexRocks 18.09.2013 09:28 |
If I recall correctly Belinda Carlise's latest re-releases are in the horrible digi-packaging. Cheapest crap possible. I hope Roger's stuff is not done that way. I suppose even if it is hey it could always be re-released! Lol. But no really. |
Pim Derks 18.09.2013 11:34 |
I hope it won't be packaging similar to the Singles Collections boxes, just 12 cd's thrown in simple cardboardsleeves with no booklets, information, pictures, ... Really really hope they've done it right and include full session information, information about the recordings, maybe a new interview with Roger reflecting back on his work etc etc. |
brians wig 18.09.2013 15:26 |
AlexRocks wrote: If I recall correctly Belinda Carlise's latest re-releases are in the horrible digi-packaging. Cheapest crap possible. I hope Roger's stuff is not done that way. I suppose even if it is hey it could always be re-released! Lol. But no really.I hate digipacks with a passion, especially the ones with no plastic tray for teh discs, BUT the Belinda Carlisle ones are at least packaged nicley which is more than I can say for Aerosmiths last album AND the VERY CHEAP and nasty FLIMSY packaging that the Sunflower Concert DVD came in today (and if you don't know what that is, it's a charity gig with Brian & Kerry as one of the acts) |
OwenSmith 18.09.2013 19:24 |
MadTheSwine73 wrote: I'd love to have all of Roger's stuff on vinyl. I've only ever come across Fun In Space in stores, which I bought. Whether the box set comes out in vinyl format, I don't know, but I'd love to have his new album on vinyl!I have Strange Frontier on 12" single. Only played once at a friend's house, I don't have a turntable. I own no other Roger vinyl. EDIT: hopefully the 12" mixes will be on the bonus CDs. Strange Frontier 12" is a lot longer than the standard single mix. |
OwenSmith 18.09.2013 19:32 |
Neither of these releases seem to be listed on Amazon UK for pre order yet. It's entirely predictable that apart from the Freddie box which was done by other people, Roger is the first to get his act together with a comprehensive boxset release. It'll never happen for Queen or Brian's stuff while Brian lives sadly. |
Pingfah 19.09.2013 03:17 |
Well, to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't want a boxset of Brian's solo stuff, most of it is rubbish. |
dudeofqueen 19.09.2013 04:02 |
Absolutely - Brian's solo albums (except for the Starfleet Project Mini-LP) have been a complete let-down fror such a talented rock guitarist with AW being little more than a compilation of material available elsewhere. Its no wonder he'd had to turn his head towards other projects outside music as his only real solo success was piggy-backed on to the death of Freddie and the publicity that generated. |
cmsdrums 19.09.2013 08:23 |
dudeofqueen wrote: Absolutely - Brian's solo albums (except for the Starfleet Project Mini-LP) have been a complete let-down fror such a talented rock guitarist with AW being little more than a compilation of material available elsewhere. Its no wonder he'd had to turn his head towards other projects outside music as his only real solo success was piggy-backed on to the death of Freddie and the publicity that generated.Indeed - Roger's solo output is far more a cohensive body of work. Having said that, the press release and the interviews Roger has given to Rhythm and Classic Rock for Fun On Earth really accentuate that this is an album that has been worked on here and there for 5 years - I really hope it doesn't turn into a Brian inspired mish-mash of jarring feels and styles (there are more trakcs on it that we already have than on anything he has previously put out) |
fertini 20.09.2013 05:20 |
a preview of the new single "Sunny Day" (aka Woman, you're so beautiful) link |
Agr123456 27.09.2013 00:28 |
No news yet?? :( |
Khizzy 27.09.2013 02:26 |
Patience! I think we will see something very soon, GT mentioned on FB a few days ago that the sleeve notes for The Lot had just been approved, so I'd bank on an announcement being made about both album and box set in the next week or so. |
zephead2112 27.09.2013 03:10 |
Very much looking forward to seeing the contents of the new website too.....I've been checking it every day for the past few weeks. Still "Coming soon.......". |
N1ghtjar 27.09.2013 09:40 |
I can't believe there is nowhere to pre-order Fun On Earth yet in the UK |
cmsdrums 30.09.2013 06:08 |
Rhythm magazine are carrying a brief interview with Roger next issue (out 22 Oct) and are reporting online today that Fun On Earth is released 11 November. |
dudeofqueen 30.09.2013 06:42 |
In competition with the deluxe box set of The Who's "Tommy"........ snigger....... |
Vali 30.09.2013 07:47 |
11nov .... this is exactly 6 weeks as from today, so I expect that bloody official press release with full details arriving ... now ! |
thomasquinn 32989 30.09.2013 09:31 |
I don't really have a clue what's going on here, but PR-wise, I can hardly call this a brilliantly executed campaign... It's not like Roger is a sufficiently big name on his own to create a frenzy by repeatedly pushing back release dates and keeping complete radio silence on the tracklist of his box set. If they want to sell to any but the most hard-core Queen-fans, they're really going to need all the promotion they can get, considering the size (and, likely, price) of the box set. Again, I'm not in the know in any way, but I'm beginning to suspect they've run into trouble of some kind somewhere along the way. |
Negative Creep 30.09.2013 10:04 |
The problem they've encountered is that everyone involved is incompetent - which is presumably a given when they all seem to be fans picked from obscurity. Given the money Roger has, you'd think he'd be able to afford professionals to put together and promote his releases properly - maybe he's a tightwad? :) Apparently both the album & box set are being issued by Universal but have little to no involvement beyond manufacturing and distributing them - which would explain the ever moving release dates and lack of tracklisting information. |
tero! 48531 30.09.2013 10:36 |
Wasn't this the same Roger Taylor who just recently told the MJJ estate to "get its a**e into gear"? It's a shame that Roger's surrounded by arse kissing yes men who won't tell him that same thing... |
TheGuvnor 01.10.2013 11:33 |
PR-wise, it's really great. "Sunny day" is announced and played on the radio as the first single release from the album - but it's not possible to buy the single anywhere. But wait a minute! On the various Queen/RT websites they tell you to follow a link to a BBC program and go to 1h:07m.40s....unbelievable. |
cmsdrums 01.10.2013 11:55 |
TheGuvnor wrote: PR-wise, it's really great. "Sunny day" is announced and played on the radio as the first single release from the album - but it's not possible to buy the single anywhere. But wait a minute! On the various Queen/RT websites they tell you to follow a link to a BBC program and go to 1h:07m.40s....unbelievable.Exactly - surely if it's a new "single" as described it should have at least some details out as to release date, availability etc. If not, it's not a single but simply a 'new track' |
fertini 04.10.2013 06:50 |
amazon.co.uk link "fun on earth" out on Oct 28th ..... |
cmsdrums 04.10.2013 11:41 |
Says it's on Virgin/EMI - that's very surprising following the move to Universal/Island (although haven't they subsequently bought EMI anyway, which may have helped with getting the rights for The Cross material?) |
Kevinrm15 04.10.2013 13:23 |
The QOL admin confirmed that Roger is indeed a Virgin/Universal artist. |
Pim Derks 04.10.2013 13:49 |
It's really a shame they won't do a vinyl version. The first Queen-related album not available on vinyl I think? Even stuff like Furia and the Barcelona remix got a vinyl version :( The only other exception I can think of is the Ukraine CD/DVD set, but that was mainly a DVD with CD's as bonus - not a real album (even though it WAS released in a jewelcase in the US). |
cmsdrums 05.10.2013 12:23 |
The Ukraine release ridiculously didn't come out on Blu Ray, despite being filmed in HD; Brian even ludicrously tried to defend this decision by saying that he didn't view Blu Ray as a very popular format - clearly ok for the non HD Freddie Tribute concert however!! |
. 05.10.2013 16:13 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: The QOL admin confirmed that Roger is indeed a Virgin......I don't believe it. |
rocknrolllover 06.10.2013 03:31 |
I do not understand your dissatisfaction over the fact that there will be released on his new album on vinyl. Buy the digital version. anyway on vinyl will also figure rather than analog recording |
Pim Derks 06.10.2013 08:48 |
I don't have a clue what you're talking about, but I surely can't be the only one who'd love a vinyl version. A big gatefold sleeve, maybe even coloured vinyl, numbered... Really hope they'll do a limited edition vinyl one in 2014 :( |
thomasquinn 32989 06.10.2013 10:32 |
Except the artwork, what added value does an analogue carrier have when the original recordings were made on digital equipment? |
inu-liger 06.10.2013 21:25 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Except the artwork, what added value does an analogue carrier have when the original recordings were made on digital equipment?The higher sampling rate of the recording (eg. if it was done in 96/24 or 192/24) allows the waveform to transfer more accurately when cutting, hence it would sound better than something mastered from CD (2009 vinyl reissues, anyone?). If you recall, a lot of people including myself noted for example that "The Cosmos Rocks" sounded better on vinyl than it did on CD. |
The Real Wizard 06.10.2013 23:33 |
^ this. |
tero! 48531 06.10.2013 23:37 |
inu-liger wrote: If you recall, a lot of people including myself noted for example that "The Cosmos Rocks" sounded better on vinyl than it did on CD.Most people probably said this because any additional background noise caused by their turntable was an improvement on the original album... ;) |
inu-liger 07.10.2013 02:19 |
Let's not go there... |
thomasquinn 32989 07.10.2013 04:58 |
inu-liger wrote:To benefit from that, you would needthomasquinn 32989 wrote: Except the artwork, what added value does an analogue carrier have when the original recordings were made on digital equipment?The higher sampling rate of the recording (eg. if it was done in 96/24 or 192/24) allows the waveform to transfer more accurately when cutting, hence it would sound better than something mastered from CD (2009 vinyl reissues, anyone?). If you recall, a lot of people including myself noted for example that "The Cosmos Rocks" sounded better on vinyl than it did on CD. 1) an extremely high-end turntable, amplifier and set of speakers 2) a specific broad-spectrum pressing, limiting the playing length of the album (I have two 96khz vinyls, and they can only hold 15 minutes per side) 3) exceptionally well-recorded (not just in therms of bitrate and frequency range, but in terms of microphones, instruments and general acoustics of the studio) music to begin with. I really don't think that's a realistic pattern of expectation. I do prefer analog recordings to be presented on an analog medium, but when it comes to digital recordings, you have to go to extreme lengths to benefit from this at all. In fact, I think it would probably be less troublesome and expensive to create a new alternative to Red Book CDDA, say 24bit/48khz (bitrate is, IMHO, far more important than frequency range) than to create the high-end vinyls you seem to find realistic to expect. In case somebody really anal turns up - no, I am not suggesting this is really done, I am providing an example to communicate how unduly complex I consider the high-end vinyl option to be. |
fertini 10.10.2013 02:43 |
link photo of THE LOT boxset ..thanks to italian fanpage link |
Agr123456 10.10.2013 05:57 |
Compilation CD?? I just hope it isn't a kind of GH CD inside this box...Because in 2 CDs you can't put every single edit/extended version that Roger solo released... I hope that CD contains track like I Wanna Testify which don't fin in other CDs... |
Vali 10.10.2013 06:42 |
Agr123456 wrote: Compilation CD?? I just hope it isn't a kind of GH CD inside this box...Because in 2 CDs you can't put every single edit/extended version that Roger solo released... I hope that CD contains track like I Wanna Testify which don't fin in other CDs...in fact I think it'll be 4 CDs: Roger Taylor singles 1&2 and The Cross singles 1&2. If it's like this, then you can have space for the regular singles, extended / alternative mixes and even some non-album tracks (I Wanna Testify / Turn On The TV for granted.... and hopefully some little unexpected additional gem) |
Agr12345 10.10.2013 09:46 |
A few weeks ago i took all extended/edits/b sides of Roger & The Cross and it's more than 4 CDs (I'm not counting collaborations or unreleased stuff, only which it was available thru the years on vinyl/CDs/etc) So unless they add the singles and extended version to the albums which they come from or we will miss some stuff... |
Ron 10.10.2013 09:59 |
Agr12345 wrote: A few weeks ago i took all extended/edits/b sides of Roger & The Cross and it's more than 4 CDs (I'm not counting collaborations or unreleased stuff, only which it was available thru the years on vinyl/CDs/etc) So unless they add the singles and extended version to the albums which they come from or we will miss some stuff...I actually doubt that we'll get ie the 7" edit of Power To Love or maybe Foreign Sand, simply because it is an edit. They also did not include any edits on the FM solo box. In fact, I dont see that many edits popping up on other (non-Queen related) releases. There are exceptions ofcourse. |
Agr12345 10.10.2013 10:04 |
If this happen will be disappointing because in all CDs i'm sure will have free space... But as the people who compiled the FM box is not the same as this one (if i'm not wrong) let's hope there are some differences... :-) |
MercurialFreddie 10.10.2013 11:09 |
From my experience, I can tell you that listening to vinyl can help you "re-discover" the song. I have bought all original Queen albums on cd format but let's take AKOM as an example. For me it sounds flat but when you're listening to 96khz/24bit flac vinyl rip from the 86' original first pressing then you can really cherish every note from WWTLF. It's so good that it can't even get better (wish they'd release it on DVD-Audio). |
last-horizon 42265 10.10.2013 12:07 |
link From this image I can identify: 1. New Dark Ages (The Cross Singles Vol 2) 2. Shove It (Single) (The Cross Singles Vol 1) 3. Pressure On (RT Singles Vol 2) 4. My Country (RT Singles Vol 1) 5. Fun On Earth 6. Electric Fire 7. Blue Rock 8. Strange Frontier (??) 9. Shove It (UK release) 10. Fun In Space Upper disc: The Lot DVD "Mad Bad" and "Happiness?" seem to be missing. The left page of the book shows the track listings for the eight regular albums. Hopefully the right one shows the contents for the four "singles" discs (one column for each disc). If so, it seems to be a lot of tracks on them, still considering that each title might have its identification behind it. For example: Line #1: Power To Love Line #2: (12" Extended Version) Dreaming a little bit, I hope that the titles under the line on the second page are the gems that most of us are waiting for. As for the box itself, for what can be seen, I believe that the discs will be issued in cardboard sleeve format and not in jewel cases. Only one day to know the official word. All of this is just me speculating. EDIT: After a second thought, I have discared the idea of the cardboard sleeve presentation. If you compare the dimensions of the discs compared to the booket, four of them fit into one page. They will be probably inserted, in one or other form, in the same way that the discs from the FM Box were. |
AlexRocks 10.10.2013 12:46 |
Holy shit! That looks fucking awesome! |
cmsdrums 10.10.2013 14:01 |
RonB wrote:Agr12345 wrote: I actually doubt that we'll get ie the 7" edit of Power To Love or maybe Foreign Sand, simply because it is an edit. They also did not include any edits on the FM solo box. In fact, I dont see that many edits popping up on other (non-Queen related) releases. There are exceptions ofcourse.New Dark Ages is a simple edit, but Foreign Sand is a different version/mix - album has acoustic guitar under the verse whereas the single has the acoustic guitar and some piano removed. |
Ron 10.10.2013 15:11 |
cmsdrums wrote: New Dark Ages is a simple edit, but Foreign Sand is a different version/mix - album has acoustic guitar under the verse whereas the single has the acoustic guitar and some piano removed.Yea true, that was a bad example :) I however do hope that both Manipulator versions will be on there even though the extended version is not that much extended after all! Simply because they have never been released digitally before. |
Negative Creep 10.10.2013 15:21 |
Ah, but whilst edits of things like Pressure On and Power To Love are pointless and somewhat destructive, the edit of New Dark Ages is surely vastly superior to the LP version? |
AlexRocks 10.10.2013 16:38 |
Did Roger Taylor say at some point recently that he was going to re-record the Cross Studio l.p.s because the record company would not allow him to re-release them? I'm confused. |
Thistle 10.10.2013 21:03 |
AlexRocks wrote: Holy shit! That looks fucking awesome!Really? With NO sleeves? So the 12-13 discs are going to be in a book style box? That's pish - original artwork would have been nice. FFS, it looks as though it's been flung together. I know it looks as though I'm one of those fans that is never happy - this isn't the case, as I'm still really up for this, but it could've been packaged a hell of a lot better. |
AlexRocks 10.10.2013 22:27 |
I suppose you will either be able to buy them individually or at some point will be able to...even if they are in the horrible digi packaging. Now that is some real bad shit. With that said I did not realize that they would not have their own packaging...but that could be fine. Again I don't know. Just keep in mind things can always be re-released differently in the future. |
tero! 48531 10.10.2013 23:39 |
Why would people be expecting individual packaging, when the only comparable product was also released without individual packaging? Also, the packaging is the most expensive part of manufacturing this box set, and it IS a bit redundant when the potential buyers already own (most) of the albums anyway. |
Thistle 11.10.2013 07:54 |
tero! 48531 wrote: Why would people be expecting individual packaging, when the only comparable product was also released without individual packaging? Also, the packaging is the most expensive part of manufacturing this box set, and it IS a bit redundant when the potential buyers already own (most) of the albums anyway.If you applied your logic in this instance, tero, then you may as well say that the bulk of the box itself is redundant as most of us will have those albums anyway.... But the fact of the matter is it's not redundant at all, - not everyone owns these albums already, so would have neither the music NOR the artwork. With regards to the "only comparable product", I can only assume you mean the FM box? Fair point, but it's the only comparable set in terms of SOLO issues. When Queen 40 was released as a box, ALL of the sleeves were there - and most people would already have that..... I didn't "expect" individual artwork, but I hoped for it, as I personally don't own Blue Rock or Mad, Bad and Dangerous To Know. Also, if I went just for the box, I wouldn't have the physical artwork for the new album either. At the end of the day, it's just another marketing ploy - if you want the artwork, linear notes etc, you need to buy the individual CD at £15, and if you want the extras.....it's the bulky (semi-redundant if you apply tero's logic) box. |
thomasquinn 32989 11.10.2013 07:56 |
Looks really nice so far, but I'm afraid it'll probably be really expensive, and possibly hard to get hold of after the first few weeks... |
tero! 48531 11.10.2013 10:59 |
Thistleboy1980 wrote:It IS a marketing ploy, and the box set IS redundant.tero! 48531 wrote: Why would people be expecting individual packaging, when the only comparable product was also released without individual packaging? Also, the packaging is the most expensive part of manufacturing this box set, and it IS a bit redundant when the potential buyers already own (most) of the albums anyway.If you applied your logic in this instance, tero, then you may as well say that the bulk of the box itself is redundant as most of us will have those albums anyway.... But the fact of the matter is it's not redundant at all, - not everyone owns these albums already, so would have neither the music NOR the artwork. With regards to the "only comparable product", I can only assume you mean the FM box? Fair point, but it's the only comparable set in terms of SOLO issues. When Queen 40 was released as a box, ALL of the sleeves were there - and most people would already have that..... I didn't "expect" individual artwork, but I hoped for it, as I personally don't own Blue Rock or Mad, Bad and Dangerous To Know. Also, if I went just for the box, I wouldn't have the physical artwork for the new album either. At the end of the day, it's just another marketing ploy - if you want the artwork, linear notes etc, you need to buy the individual CD at £15, and if you want the extras.....it's the bulky (semi-redundant if you apply tero's logic) box. Its main purpose is to sell the same material to the same Queen fans again, and it's doing that work as planned. Just like with any other Queen product, it's a question of how little you can do and stil make people buy the same material again. A 4 disc singles collection (with a bonus dvd) would retail for £30, but a 12 disc set is almost £100. That's three times the income with practically no extra work. The Queen 40 years boxset was nothing more than the already existing individual albums collected to one lot, designed to make the fans buy all 15 albums instead of picking the ones with actual content. |
Agr12345 11.10.2013 13:49 |
Box set maybe is redundant in terms of Roger solo albums which are very easy to get cheaply. But The Cross CDs were (or are) very expensive and not everyone can afford them. Years ago i sold the three CDs because i was offered 110 GBP, then i though if i was wrong...Fortunately i was right...Now i can get the same CDs with better quality sound probably cheaply |
Thistle 11.10.2013 13:50 |
^ I'm partially in agreement as you know, but I wouldn't say the set as a whole is redundant - the new album with bonus tracks, the 4 extras discs that finally collect all of the singles etc AND (finally) a DVD with the promo videos on it. That's nice! Plus, for me, I eventually get MBADTK and BR....those two alone COULD be the price of the full box if bought on ebay/amazon or whatever. |
saj ditta 14.10.2013 16:34 |
Has the lot been digitally remastered?why dvd no bluray?no vinyl on limited basis?no sign of the lot on amazon uk great team behind roger no single what on earths goin on?still no sign of full track list of the lot nice one. |
OwenSmith 19.10.2013 18:02 |
cmsdrums wrote: The Ukraine release ridiculously didn't come out on Blu Ray, despite being filmed in HD; Brian even ludicrously tried to defend this decision by saying that he didn't view Blu Ray as a very popular format - clearly ok for the non HD Freddie Tribute concert however!!Shows what Brian knows then. OK Blu Ray doesn't have quite the volume of DVD but it is a very popular format. |
OwenSmith 20.10.2013 08:13 |
The Lot listed on amazon.de for pre-order: link |
Vali 20.10.2013 09:39 |
OwenSmith wrote: The Lot listed on amazon.de for pre-order: linkyes, but that's ridiculously overprized ! a few days ago it was on Amazon.it at € 95 aprox. I'm just waiting they've got some back in stock again to pre-order :( |
NicTheBeard 20.10.2013 15:03 |
And on amazon.ca (Canada) it's 143CDN which equates to only £86!! |
Pingfah 22.10.2013 05:06 |
Why does everywhere except the UK seem to have this for preorder? |
rocknrolllover 22.10.2013 06:25 |
14 "When We Were Young (Bonus track featured in The Lot)" 3:23 15. "Midnight Lightning (Bonus track featured in The Lot)" 1:57 If we can trust WiKi. |
tero! 48531 22.10.2013 13:36 |
Pingfah wrote: Why does everywhere except the UK seem to have this for preorder?My guess is that they haven't received enough information to put a realistic price on it. Or maybe the whole box set has been scrapped? |