david (galashiels) 03.11.2012 18:58 |
nice pro footage of.one vision at knebworth of freddie kicking a plastic cup away |
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MartynTS 03.11.2012 20:56 |
This means QP has the pro-video of the entire concert! |
Kevinrm15 03.11.2012 21:51 |
No. That footage of One Vision and what you saw in Magic Years is all the footage of Knebworth there is. Which is very little. |
The Real Wizard 03.11.2012 22:20 |
The footage of One Vision wasn't filmed by QP. It's a separate reel of news footage. |
Gregsynth 04.11.2012 01:12 |
Can you imagine an official release of Knebworth? |
Harry_queenrecordings 04.11.2012 02:36 |
How great would it be that this will get released, but I think it will never happen. Both Wembley and Budapest are released and I don't see QP will release a third magic show.. |
tomchristie22 04.11.2012 05:36 |
Knebworth is a remarkable show, for it's historical significance, fantastic scale and the above average performance, however given that they've released 2 Magic shows already and there's very little usable stuff of Knebworth, I'll doubt we'll be getting it, at least any time soon. Which is fine, because that means they can focus on 74-79. |
Kevinrm15 04.11.2012 08:35 |
I think there were plans to release Knebworth this year. Might still be on the cards but don't know when. |
fr1986 04.11.2012 13:55 |
Here we go again. Now that we have budapest and both wemleys re-released in excelent quality the only gig of the magic tour left to be released is knebworth. Tons of times it was said that the cameras were not recording. But i do think it is extremely stupid to have several cameras there , take the trouble of carrying the giant screen and not record it. It is unbelievable. I still hope that one day they will find the mix-tape of the giant screen. If that never happens at least we have part of the show recorded by doro and the full audio. I do think that a couple of years ago in this website somebody said that previous to the version of brian saying "we forgot to put a tape" there was someone that said that brian confirmed the existence of a full video version of this concert on his website, but then that topic was deleted. Could i be correct??? In the meantime i hope they release houston77 next year |
emrabt 04.11.2012 15:14 |
Greg said footage recorded OF the screen, "that we all have" meaning the fan recorded stuff off the screen. If there was more stuff we would have seen it by now, instead we get the same few clips from DoRo and ITN news. |
MERQRY 04.11.2012 15:36 |
WHY do you want an (almost) impossible Knebworth footage if they have other possible and more intresting footage like Rainbow,Japan,Houston,Earls Court, Argentina, Hyde Park, etc etc???? Magic Tour was great but there's no reason to get other show from that tour... |
fr1986 04.11.2012 19:14 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: I think there were plans to release Knebworth this year. Might still be on the cards but don't know when.Where did you get that from? Never heard of plans for releasing knebworth so far |
Kevinrm15 04.11.2012 22:24 |
Back in February the QOL admin dropped a HUGE hint that Knebworth would be out on CD this summer. Sadly that didn't happen. |
tomchristie22 05.11.2012 02:54 |
What was the hint? Was it general enough that it also could've referred to the Budapest gig, which we did get? |
Doga 05.11.2012 03:52 |
I still think Knebworth wasn't recorded. Record a gig is hard and expensive, even in our times, so much more back in the 80's. Thanks to God we have Budapest in HD, and is very rare, film a gig in this quality at the time. And the two Wembleys in standard quality, with those two, QP probably don't want to record another gig. Maybe is true that the cameras only feed the gigant screen and wasn't record anything. |
pittrek 05.11.2012 06:01 |
Finally a reason to buy it ? |
pcgenius9 05.11.2012 06:32 |
I think the picture quality is a twinge better than the Montreal release, but make sure you get your television set up properly for the audio because otherwise it sounds very flat. Mine has a music mode which made it sound really good. The documentary is quite interesting, if a little lacking in actual information. I thought the footage of Slane Castle and Knebworth was interesting but it seems like most of the snippets of the other concerts is just bootleg stuff included to pad out the documentary. |
pittrek 05.11.2012 06:39 |
I guess none of you would upload the documentary somewhere for a limited time :-) |
Kevinrm15 05.11.2012 07:06 |
tomchristie22 wrote: What was the hint? Was it general enough that it also could've referred to the Budapest gig, which we did get?I asked the admin if he could drop us a hint on what live releases to expect this year. He replied by posting a link to the looking for the Knebworth baby. |
pcgenius9 05.11.2012 07:34 |
...and I think the CD's sound better than the blu-ray video. It is nice that they include the missing tracks. |
oliverd05 05.11.2012 08:33 |
any chance of some lovely person posting a download link of the CD's :) |
rhapsody8 05.11.2012 09:17 |
Blu-Ray review: link |
pcgenius9 05.11.2012 09:43 |
That review was reading well until the last line, when it lost all credibility to me... |
pittrek 05.11.2012 10:04 |
pcgenius9 wrote: That review was reading well until the last line, when it lost all credibility to me...What's wrong with "Highly recommended" ? |
pcgenius9 05.11.2012 10:10 |
Nothing, it just says before that, that it was the last concert with Freddie Mercury. |
pittrek 05.11.2012 10:33 |
Yeah, that one's "slightly" incorrect :-) |
DLCVinnuendo 05.11.2012 10:36 |
someone bought??? if yes, show some pictures or videos!!! |
fr1986 05.11.2012 20:18 |
If you are interested i will be uploading the full audio to my channel. I do not know how long will be there. link |
rhapsody8 06.11.2012 04:47 |
some screenshots from blu-ray.com: link |
Battler 06.11.2012 05:58 |
There's still some cuts. Before Freddie says "This is Under Pressure.", on the bootleg he says "What the fuck are we doing?". He doesn't on Hungarian Rhapsody CD's. Then one "hey" is missing before Hammer To Fall - on the bootleg you can clearly here Freddie going "hey hey hey hey hey" but on the Hungarian Rhapsody CD's, he only goes "hey hey hey hey". |
freddissimo 06.11.2012 07:40 |
Another one bites the dust from Hungarian Rhapsody cd's: link |
Battler 09.11.2012 13:37 |
I compared some more now - the little guitar warm up before Crazy Little Thing Called Love is also missing from the Hungarian Rhapsody CD's. |
pittrek 09.11.2012 13:50 |
Battler wrote: I compared some more now - the little guitar warm up before Crazy Little Thing Called Love is also missing from the Hungarian Rhapsody CD's.Would you find the time to check for all cuts/overdubs etc. ? |
99jaystang 09.11.2012 14:29 |
I notice Brian's guitar sounded different from the Liar intro into Tear it up without him near his pedal board |
The Real Wizard 09.11.2012 16:20 |
Budapest edits: One Vision - initial guitar solo overdubbed "what the fuck are we doing" missing before Under Pressure a few seconds missing before after Under Pressure a few seconds missing before CLTCL silence between encores shortened I think that's it. Or ... didn't someone once say there were Freddie overdubs on Under Pressure? I don't remember any off hand. The Roger backing vocal in the second verse that was on the old VHS has been removed. |
Harry_queenrecordings 10.11.2012 04:23 |
Here is another missing bit in Freddie's speech before Who wants to live forever: Freddie says at some point ''If it wasn't for you we would not be here tonight, EVEN THIS IS OUR FIRST NIGHT, thank you very much we will be back'' etc.. The line ''Even this is our first night'' is missing on the new release. |
pittrek 10.11.2012 05:47 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Budapest edits: One Vision - initial guitar solo overdubbed "what the fuck are we doing" missing before Under Pressure a few seconds missing before after Under Pressure a few seconds missing before CLTCL silence between encores shortened I think that's it. Or ... didn't someone once say there were Freddie overdubs on Under Pressure? I don't remember any off hand. The Roger backing vocal in the second verse that was on the old VHS has been removed.Excellent, just what I needed. Any chance you would do the same for Knebworth - audience recording and Live Magic please ? |
Battler 10.11.2012 06:55 |
There's a sound missing in A Kind Of Magic during the bass and drums solo, a bit after the "we'll soon be gone" before it. The percussion on the VHS goes tut-tut-tut-tut-tut-pam-tut-tut, but the pam is replaced with another tut in Hungarian Rhapsody (I noticed that even in the A Kind Of Magic video they posted online back in September). The pam is also faintly audible on the bootleg, so for some reason it was "fixed" in Hungarian Rhapsody. |
Battler 10.11.2012 06:56 |
"Any chance you would do the same for Knebworth - audience recording and Live Magic please ?" Before Seven Seas Of Rhye on Live Magic, Freddie goes "Hello! |
joesilvey 10.11.2012 07:01 |
I don't care what any performer says... you won't find a live release of any kind that doesn't have some kind of minor fixes / edits on it. And I consider these Budapest edits (esp. considering what a perfectionist band Queen were in the studio) minor and perfectly fine. Hearing Freddie's voice crack on FBG from Live at the Bowl is interesting, and yes true to history, but not what i want coming out of my speakers every time i play the song... anyway - as a fan, i do really enjoy knowing what they've taken out and changed for various releases, so many thanks to those who have taken time and effort to compare bootlegs with official releases. and last, as one who purchased the deluxe Blu-Ray and CD set, I think it's the finest sounding Queen concert release since Montreal (by far). The film transfer is truly stunning and the band's performance was stellar. Though I was slightly disappointed when this was first announced (b/c it's been out there before and seen by most) i'm convinced now that this show deserved a proper updated release. One of their finest shows from the Magic Tour imho... |
pittrek 10.11.2012 09:12 |
Battler wrote:Nice analysis of the cuts, can you spot also the overdubs ?"Any chance you would do the same for Knebworth - audience recording and Live Magic please ?"Before Seven Seas Of Rhye on Live Magic, Freddie goes "Hello! |
99jaystang 10.11.2012 10:04 |
Electronic drum effects during Brian's solo in Who wants to live forever are missing, but they could of been added to the mix on 87 vhs version. Just a little annoyed the snare drum sound has been messed with. Love the snare sound on 87 mix and live magic cd. Still little disappointing they left out a lot of behind the footage scenes. (most of what we seen on youtube and magic years vhs.) |
The Real Wizard 10.11.2012 14:07 |
Harry_queenbootlegs wrote: Here is another missing bit in Freddie's speech before Who wants to live forever: Freddie says at some point ''If it wasn't for you we would not be here tonight, EVEN THIS IS OUR FIRST NIGHT, thank you very much we will be back'' etc.. The line ''Even this is our first night'' is missing on the new release."Even though this is our first night" ... but yes, you're right. Good catch ! |
The Real Wizard 10.11.2012 14:09 |
pittrek wrote: Any chance you would do the same for Knebworth - audience recording and Live Magic please ?There are just two overdubs on the Knebworth material on Live Magic.. -Brian's backing vocal in One Vision -Brian's guitar triad in the sixth bar of Seven Seas Of Rhye Besides that it's just edits, as our friend Battler has outlined above with excellence. |
The Real Wizard 10.11.2012 14:31 |
joesilvey wrote: I don't care what any performer says... you won't find a live release of any kind that doesn't have some kind of minor fixes / edits on it. And I consider these Budapest edits (esp. considering what a perfectionist band Queen were in the studio) minor and perfectly fine. Hearing Freddie's voice crack on FBG from Live at the Bowl is interesting, and yes true to history, but not what i want coming out of my speakers every time i play the song...Refreshing and much-needed perspective. Excellent post overall. |
Battler 10.11.2012 14:45 |
The shriek sound at "One flash of light" in One Vision has been removed in Hungarian Rhapsody. Edit: As for the edits in Hungarian Rhapsody being minor and perfectly fine, I fully agree with that. Edit #2: Slight correction - above I said that in Live Magic, God Save The Queen is missing completely. That was a mistake. What I meant was actually that God Save The Queen is present completely. As for Queen Live releases, I'd like to see the following: Live In Rio '85 - full both nights on 1 DVD and 2 CD per night (they have audio and video according to Rhys Thomas so it should be doable); Live At Knebworth Park '86 - full audio on 2 CD. Live In Mannheim '86 - full audio on 2 CD. Live In Japan '85 - full night on DVD and 2 CD. Live In Japan '82 - full night on DVD and 2 CD. Concert for People of Kampuchea at Hammersmith '79 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live In Japan '79 - full night on DVD and 2 CD. Live In Paris '79 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live In Houston '78 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live In Earls' Court '77 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live At Hyde Park '76 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live At Hammersmith '75 - whatever they have on DVD and full concert on 1 or 2 CD. Live At The Rainbow '74 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Note when I say DVD, I mean release both DVD and Blu-ray versions if applicable (DVD only for those concerts that were filmed in SD TV format or the like). |
pittrek 10.11.2012 14:52 |
Fascinating reading guys, you have good ears :-) I missed these analytical posts to be honest |
Hangman_96 10.11.2012 15:07 |
Battler wrote: I compared some more now - the little guitar warm up before Crazy Little Thing Called Love is also missing from the Hungarian Rhapsody CD's.It isn't missing, it's been brought down in the mix. Listen to it pretty carefully - you will hear the faint sounds of it. |
Hangman_96 10.11.2012 15:13 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Or ... didn't someone once say there were Freddie overdubs on Under Pressure? I don't remember any off hand. The Roger backing vocal in the second verse that was on the old VHS has been removed.That wasn't Roger's backing vocal - actually, it was David Bowie's. |
Hangman_96 10.11.2012 15:16 |
Btw, the level of the audience noise has been increased. |
cmsdrums 10.11.2012 15:46 |
Lostman wrote:Are you saying that they took Bowie's backing vocal from the studio and played it back on the track at the life gigs? I can't see that, especially with having to change the tempo etc. I'm sure Roger sang it on the live gigs.The Real Wizard wrote: Or ... didn't someone once say there were Freddie overdubs on Under Pressure? I don't remember any off hand. The Roger backing vocal in the second verse that was on the old VHS has been removed.That wasn't Roger's backing vocal - actually, it was David Bowie's. I reply to the list of live releases based on the officially filmed gigs we know of, I'm sure I read somewhere before that the footage cut for the Japan 82 VHS release was binned (the same of Montreal and Budapest). Can anyone back up my memory on this?? |
Toozeup 10.11.2012 16:16 |
The negatives for Budapest have never been confirmed destroyed. Their whereabouts were known for 10 years but disappeared around 1996. Hopefully they will turn up. |
Hangman_96 10.11.2012 16:19 |
cmsdrums wrote:Damn! I was fooled there :-) I've just listened to this very bit on the old release (hadn't listened to it in a while), and really it appears to be Roger. But his vocals in that very moment DO sound like Bowie's!Lostman wrote:Are you saying that they took Bowie's backing vocal from the studio and played it back on the track at the life gigs? I can't see that, especially with having to change the tempo etc. I'm sure Roger sang it on the live gigs.The Real Wizard wrote: Or ... didn't someone once say there were Freddie overdubs on Under Pressure? I don't remember any off hand. The Roger backing vocal in the second verse that was on the old VHS has been removed.That wasn't Roger's backing vocal - actually, it was David Bowie's. |
cmsdrums 10.11.2012 18:18 |
He does do a good Bowie impression at times - I'm presuming its Roger who speaks the 'while you are imagining, imagine for instance.....' Intro on The Cross' version of Heaven For Everyone, and that's VERY reminiscent of Bowie. |
The Real Wizard 10.11.2012 19:57 |
Battler wrote: Concert for People of Kampuchea at Hammersmith '79 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live In Paris '79 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live In Earls' Court '77 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live At Hyde Park '76 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live At The Rainbow '74 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD.^ I'd be happy any of with these. That said, Paris 79 probably won't happen (at least on video) because the video quality hasn't stood the test of time. Maybe some Paris tracks will be bonus material on the reissue of Live Killers .. ? Japan 79 probably won't happen either because Mercury's voice was in poor shape. But the quality of the video master is apparently amazing from what I've heard. |
The Real Wizard 10.11.2012 20:03 |
Lostman wrote:The guitar track was muted, but it's still heard because other mics will still pick things... i.e. "bleeding."Battler wrote: I compared some more now - the little guitar warm up before Crazy Little Thing Called Love is also missing from the Hungarian Rhapsody CD's.It isn't missing, it's been brought down in the mix. Listen to it pretty carefully - you will hear the faint sounds of it. |
The Real Wizard 10.11.2012 20:04 |
Lostman wrote: Btw, the level of the audience noise has been increased.And thank goodness. It sounds much more like a concert now. |
Mr.QueenFan 10.11.2012 21:05 |
The Real Wizard wrote: That said, Paris 79 probably won't happen (at least on video) because the video quality hasn't stood the test of time. Maybe some Paris tracks will be bonus material on the reissue of Live Killers .. ?Are you shure about the Paris 79 video? I got the impression after the Rhys Thomas Q&A a couple months ago that the Paris 79 was good for DVD. This is what Rhys said: link Question from medcur: "From any footage you've seen or heard about whilst researching the documentaries, are there any unreleased concerts you think might possibly see the light of day?" Rhys answer: "Rainbow is great and we found the uncut concert with Seven Seas of Rhye and Flick of The Wrist on there. Also Paris 79 - maybe a Live Killers Box." |
The Real Wizard 10.11.2012 21:16 |
Perfect - I stand corrected ! |
99jaystang 10.11.2012 22:26 |
I thought paris was shot with only one camera, from what i seen on youtube, unless there is another source. But anyway a live killers audio box set would be awesome. |
The Real Wizard 10.11.2012 23:53 |
There is multi-cam footage from the second night: link |
cmsdrums 11.11.2012 03:11 |
Such a shame that Japan 79 is reportedly in such good quality, but Freddie's obvious vocal problems will indeed stop this one coming out. Perhaps some of the better tracks could be salvaged as extras (I'm In Love With My Car and the guitar solo at the least shouldn't be hit by Freddie's throat issues!) |
Hangman_96 11.11.2012 16:13 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Given the words Rhys Thomas once said (as mentioned above), Paris 79 must happen some day!Battler wrote: Concert for People of Kampuchea at Hammersmith '79 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live In Paris '79 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live In Earls' Court '77 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live At Hyde Park '76 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD. Live At The Rainbow '74 - full concert on DVD and 2 CD.^ I'd be happy any of with these. That said, Paris 79 probably won't happen (at least on video) because the video quality hasn't stood the test of time. Maybe some Paris tracks will be bonus material on the reissue of Live Killers .. ? Japan 79 probably won't happen either because Mercury's voice was in poor shape. But the quality of the video master is apparently amazing from what I've heard. Although, we sure can't say the same about Tokyo 79, and it's such a pity. Of course, Freddie's voice wasn't great on that very night but if the quality is amazing, it would make a great release. Btw, what is the source of the info of the amazing Tokyo quality? |
Hangman_96 11.11.2012 16:20 |
cmsdrums wrote: Such a shame that Japan 79 is reportedly in such good quality, but Freddie's obvious vocal problems will indeed stop this one coming out. Perhaps some of the better tracks could be salvaged as extras (I'm In Love With My Car and the guitar solo at the least shouldn't be hit by Freddie's throat issues!)I do agree, these two tracks could be released as extras to some release from that era. Fingers crossed. |
DLCVinnuendo 11.11.2012 16:46 |
HR failed to chart in Top40 Music Video Charts of the UK Official Charts Company!!!! |
cmsdrums 12.11.2012 04:20 |
DLCVinnuendo wrote: HR failed to chart in Top40 Music Video Charts of the UK Official Charts Company!!!!Blimey - that's really surprising. Even Q&PR In Ukraine went straight in at No 2. |
splicksplack 12.11.2012 09:14 |
The Real Wizard wrote: There is multi-cam footage from the second night: linkI'm not too sure about that. I was at all 3 nights in Paris and I can assure you the French do not scream like that. It sounds like a Japanese concert with the bonsoir bit overlaid. |
The Real Wizard 12.11.2012 10:58 |
Without a doubt, the audio has been mangled with. It's from a 1979 TV special called "The Champions." The footage is certainly from Paris. It matches the audience recording from 2-28-79. But the Japanese audience has been added on top. While the live footage in the special is from Paris and Tokyo, they often use the Live Killers audio, sometimes switching back and forth from the genuine concert audio and LK - and the Japanese audience is periodically added into the mix of the non-Japanese tracks. I have spent years analyzing this stuff... so trust me on this one :-) |
Pim Derks 12.11.2012 12:37 |
Professionally recorded video material of Flick of the Wrist live, now that's something I'd like to see! |
The Real Wizard 12.11.2012 23:05 |
Pim Derks wrote: Professionally recorded video material of Flick of the Wrist live, now that's something I'd like to see!And now you can.. link ;-) |
Battler 17.11.2012 12:05 |
The Budapest footage shown in the A Magic Year documentary, where was it taken from? From what I see, I see it includes a part of Hammer to Fall that was cut from the official footage. Maybe some Hungarian TV broadcast? |
pittrek 17.11.2012 12:28 |
Battler wrote: The Budapest footage shown in the A Magic Year documentary, where was it taken from? From what I see, I see it includes a part of Hammer to Fall that was cut from the official footage. Maybe some Hungarian TV broadcast?The Channel 4 TV report from 1986 : link |
Battler 17.11.2012 13:03 |
Ahhh, thanks. I wonder if Channel 4 happens to have their own footage of the entire concert. Maybe Queen should ask them. Still nothing like the full uncut negatives, mind you, but still valuable. |
The Real Wizard 17.11.2012 16:46 |
One of those unofficial documentary DVDs has bits of the Budapest TV footage. So it's definitely in good shape, somewhere. |
Battler 17.11.2012 17:31 |
The Real Wizard wrote: One of those unofficial documentary DVDs has bits of the Budapest TV footage. So it's definitely in good shape, somewhere.I remember reading somewhere that the concert was supposed to be broadcast on nation-wide TV in Hungary, so if that's true, then maybe Hungarian TV could have the footage somewhere. |
Biggus Dickus 04.04.2015 12:45 |
99jaystang wrote: I notice Brian's guitar sounded different from the Liar intro into Tear it up without him near his pedal board I noticed this as well when I watched the gig recently. I don't think his guitar sound changed that drastically during the other Magic tour dates, nor during the VHS version Budapest, so maybe it's an overdub. |
Ale Solan 10.04.2015 08:05 |
cmsdrums wrote:Not a surprise for me. People expected a full version of that gig, not a remastered version of the old very same release from the 80's.DLCVinnuendo wrote: HR failed to chart in Top40 Music Video Charts of the UK Official Charts Company!!!!Blimey - that's really surprising. Even Q&PR In Ukraine went straight in at No 2. |