| bokkepoot 03.11.2012 12:31 |
Hi dear Queenfans, Today all Queenfans on the Dutch Queenconvention 2012 did get a surprise from the Dutch Queenfanclub. Everybody did get a copy on CD of the last year found tape from Queens first concert in Holland. I don't let the rest of the Queenworld wait to enjoy this recording, so here it is: Artist: Queen Date: 08-12-1974 Venue: Congres Gebouw City: The Hague Country: Holland Audio recording: 42:31 min. Lineage: AUD > ? > Tape > Queen ..you'll gone like it silver > EAC > FLAC Level 8 (with Foobar2000) Tracklist: 01. Procession - Now I'm Here 02. Freddie Talks 03. Ogre Battle 04. Freddie Talks 05. Father To Son 06. Freddie Talks 07. White Queen 08. Brian Talks 09. Flick Of The Wrist 10. Freddie Talks 11. Medley In The Lap Of The Gods - Killer Queen - The March Of The Black Queen - Bring Back That Leroy Brown 12. Freddie Talks 13. Son And Daughter I Hope you like this share !! Here is the 1fichier-link: link And below you can find the torrent file. Have fun !! Bokkepoot |
| Gregsynth 03.11.2012 12:41 |
Thank you so much!!!!! Can't wait to hear this--the Killer Queen sounded awesome on this show (when it first got sent on here)! |
| Marknow 03.11.2012 12:53 |
Very nice, Thanks. |
| pidge123 03.11.2012 13:26 |
Thank you so much for sharing so quickly, very much appreciated. |
| pogor1 03.11.2012 13:26 |
Thank You!! |
| drmurph 03.11.2012 13:28 |
Thanks so much, can't wait to listen. |
| drjones 03.11.2012 13:34 |
great thank you so much ! |
| DGAA 03.11.2012 14:02 |
Thank You !!!!! |
| Pim Derks 03.11.2012 14:10 |
Thanks for sharing. Hannie is probably not going to be amused :D |
| Pim Derks 03.11.2012 14:11 |
BTW, was it a CD-R, or a professionally pressed CD? |
| MERQRY 03.11.2012 15:35 |
MANY thanks!! |
| Hitman 03.11.2012 15:49 |
thank you!!! what a nice dutch surprise! |
| PiotreQ 03.11.2012 15:57 |
Thanks a lot for this! :-) |
| tcc 03.11.2012 16:02 |
Thank you very much. |
| ShortSharpShock 03.11.2012 16:14 |
Thank you so much. Finally something 'new' to enjoy! |
| people on streets 03.11.2012 16:19 |
I just tested my copy from the Queen meeting: Frequency analysis (eac) looks lossy. Huge drop around 16000 Hz |
| GinjaNinja 03.11.2012 16:25 |
Fantastic! Thanks very much :) It's so great to get something unheard from the SHA era. |
| Gregsynth 03.11.2012 17:05 |
Dank Je Bokkepoot :) |
| bokkepoot 03.11.2012 17:44 |
Hi Pim, This is a professionally pressed CD |
| bokkepoot 03.11.2012 17:46 |
Okay, but I'm the one now who is sharing the received fanclub-gift, if I didn't I'm almost sure that somebody else would do it soon or later. Better share it for free than that other bootleg-labels are running away with it (for money) |
| MDNA 03.11.2012 18:04 |
people on streets wrote: I just tested my copy from the Queen meeting: Frequency analysis (eac) looks lossy. Huge drop around 16000 HzI have to agree. Probably high quality MPEG, but definately lossy. What a shame. Thanks for the share though. |
| MarkRW 03.11.2012 18:06 |
Thank you. |
| bootLuca 03.11.2012 18:08 |
Thanks a lot for this jewel!! |
| Yamaguchi 03.11.2012 21:40 |
great share!! thanks |
| The Real Wizard 03.11.2012 21:41 |
people on streets wrote: I just tested my copy from the Queen meeting: Frequency analysis (eac) looks lossy. Huge drop around 16000 HzIt could've been transferred to minidisc in the 90s for all we know. I'm not entirely certain it's mp3-sourced. Let's not forget that it's an uncirculated recording from 1974. This is definitely something that doesn't happen every day. For years this recording was something of legend, and here we are listening to it. Incredible, really. Thanks to everyone involved in getting this out for all to enjoy. |
| The Real Wizard 04.11.2012 00:16 |
Pim Derks wrote: BTW, was it a CD-R, or a professionally pressed CD?The latter. Someone spent the big bucks to get it pressed to silvers. A kind gesture to everyone who came to the convention, I'd say. |
| The Real Wizard 04.11.2012 00:18 |
bokkepoot wrote: Better share it for free than that other bootleg-labels are running away with it (for money)Exactly. You did the right thing to bring it here. |
| bokkepoot 04.11.2012 01:34 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Rik Konijnenbelt (the person who has found the tape) was also on the convention to discuss how he did get the tape.people on streets wrote: I just tested my copy from the Queen meeting: Frequency analysis (eac) looks lossy. Huge drop around 16000 HzIt could've been transferred to minidisc in the 90s for all we know. It certainly isn't mp3-sourced. Let's not forget that it's an uncirculated recording from 1974. This is definitely something that doesn't happen every day. For years this recording was something of legend, and here we are listening to it. Incredible, really. Thanks to everyone involved in getting this out for all to enjoy. I'm talking now from my mind, but in big lines this did happen: Back in 1974 it was common that all (or at leas lots) of concerts were taped in the "The Hague music scene". These recordings were also done in the congress gebouw (not into the audience). People who did work in these places did swap these tapes with eachother. This must be happened also with the Queen tape. In the 90's a copy of the tape was offered for free to Rik Konijnenbelt and was stored in a box for many years without listening to it. On the tape there is a moment that you hear the typical interference with a mobile phone, so the tape must be converted to another tape in the nineties. Also is this concert not complete (only the A-side of a cassete-tape is transferred in the 90's); probably theconcert is taped complete ?? Rik has lost contact with the person who offered these recordings so at the moment: this is what it is. Maybe the 90's transfer was done to a minidisc ? |
| The Real Wizard 04.11.2012 01:03 |
Thanks for that. Any bit of the story helps. (edit - thanks to daylight savings time, this post now appears before Bokkepoot's long explanation about the tape source) |
| cmi 04.11.2012 01:07 |
It's clearly seen in Cool Edit that the source for this silver pressing is mp3. Small gaps between tracks with mp3 artifacts and 16000 Hz adrupt cut. MiniDisc compression has completely different kind (view) of cutting the frequencies. And it's not the one presented on this recording. What can I say: Unfortunately this tape was poorly transfered from analog to digit. Compressed to mp3 without any kind of restoring and then pressed to silver in all it's lossy distorted glory. Pity. Nothing to say more. |
| CERATOPHRYS 04.11.2012 01:30 |
WOW, THANKS A LOT BOKKEPOOT!!! |
| pittrek 04.11.2012 01:50 |
For those of you who have access to thetradersden, check these 2 threads : Atrac spectral analysis : link MP3 spectral analysis : link |
| Harry_queenrecordings 04.11.2012 02:28 |
Fantastic! Finally we can hear this recording. Many thanks to everyone for making this possible! |
| Gospa 04.11.2012 03:39 |
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! |
| Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 04.11.2012 03:47 |
Thank you very much to everybody involved for this fantastic share!! |
| pmatsynot 04.11.2012 06:02 |
thank you for this great early share |
| rvl 04.11.2012 06:22 |
Great, thanks! |
| daga 04.11.2012 07:28 |
Thanks :) Great part of Queen history. |
| Masahiko 04.11.2012 08:08 |
Thank you very much ! |
| miraphon5 04.11.2012 08:19 |
Many thanks. It's better to have only Side A of the cassette than nothing. Hope Side B will be found. |
| thefallenqueen 04.11.2012 09:36 |
and special thanks to Marco for bringing the original recording here... |
| Gaabiizz 04.11.2012 11:37 |
Thanks for sharing! :D |
| vivaqueen 04.11.2012 14:20 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP |
| Kamenliter 04.11.2012 14:47 |
Thanks for this. Awesome! |
| rubens 04.11.2012 20:17 |
Lossy or not, thank you so much for this gem! |
| Double-U 05.11.2012 04:02 |
Incredible! Thank your very very much! kind regards W. |
| Mr.QueenFan 05.11.2012 11:03 |
Thanks a lot for this share. |
| denzilsurprise 05.11.2012 11:52 |
Thank you. Always great to hear new stuff. Makes you wonder what else is still out there. |
| dysan 06.11.2012 12:05 |
Wow! Great news everyone! @bokkepoot - interesting to hear about the hague scene gigs being recorded and swapped. I don't suppose you are aware of any recordings of Catapult from the same era doing the round have you? |
| lfvdh 20.11.2012 17:47 |
Geweldig..., :) Super bedankt., |
| Liar_1980 21.11.2012 04:50 |
Thank you for this show! |
| monjilow 23.11.2012 02:31 |
Great! Thank you!! |
| GuitarMay 23.11.2012 21:54 |
Thank you so much bokkepoot , for bring us with this rare recording of 70's !!! |
| jabbo5150 24.11.2012 00:49 |
Thanks! |
| Stormtrooper076 25.11.2012 22:02 |
I love early Queen. Thanks |
| Fmarton 27.11.2012 05:45 |
Thanks |
| PencilRocket 22.12.2012 20:42 |
Thank you very much! |
| DAVE MAG 24.12.2012 10:01 |
Many thanks Bokkepoot. |
| inu-liger 24.12.2012 21:14 |
Thanks Bokkepoot |
| OwenSmith 19.01.2013 09:07 |
Thanks for this torrent, I'm downloading now. On the subject of silvers being pressed for this, my dad recently had some CDs made for his male voice choir. If you pay someone to do the work, break even point for silvers is 500 copies. Below this it is cheaper to have CD-Rs burned, above this it is cheaper per copy to have silvers made. He went for 1000 silvers since that's the maximum for a flat fee to the Performing Rights Society in the UK, above 1000 and you have to prove everything is out of copyright or specifically pay for rights which aren't. |
| tcc 19.01.2013 09:18 |
You may want to look at this: http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1329704.html |
| OwenSmith 19.01.2013 09:35 |
tcc wrote: You may want to look at this: http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1329704.htmlYes I had already found that thanks. On this occasion I feel like listening to it before and after the fixes being such an early recording. Download rate on both torrents is terrible, averaging 0.5kB/s. Either everyone is traffic shaped or they've all turned down their upload rates for torrents that have reached 100%. |
| The Real Wizard 19.01.2013 22:25 |
I'm seeding now. Hopefully you'll see an improvement ! |
| OwenSmith 20.01.2013 04:33 |
Yes I saw a big improvement, and I've finished downloading both this and the fixed version. Thanks! |
| antiden 13.12.2013 01:39 |
Has anyone here got the 'silver' pressed "You'll Gonna Like It" CD, which he/she is eager to sell? Please write me a PM. Thanks! |