| qz08927 29.08.2012 23:20 |
Great good for him and long overdue, Brian has replied to one of the miserable whingers. go here for The May treatment,and get a good spanking whingers beware! link |
| Gregsynth 29.08.2012 23:26 |
Pwned. |
| john bodega 30.08.2012 00:43 |
Good on you, Brian. I can understand why the guitar solo was an odd choice as far as the general public goes, but take it from someone who plays - it wasn't exactly same ol' same ol'. It was a little different, he mucked around with some dissonant stuff, and it took Godzilla sized balls for him to do that on live TV in front of billions of people. I still reckon Jessie J was a bad move, and no brutal rebuke from Brian would change my mind on that one. I remain proud of the two fellas for getting up and doing what they do best, though. |
| Holly2003 30.08.2012 04:17 |
Regardless of the views expressed about music and costumes, Brian really has made an ass out of himself again here. He has chosen this letter to make a grand statement that he doesn't only respond to gushing praise on his Soapbox. So what does he then do? He belittles the fan and tells him - and presumably anyone else not totally 100% in agreement with Brian's views -- not to write to his Soapbox again! He is seriously deranged. |
| tcc 30.08.2012 04:37 |
Brian seems to be a scary person to meet. I don't think I want to meet him in person in case I say the wrong thing and he will just let go his temper in public. |
| Gregsynth 30.08.2012 04:56 |
Even though I wasn't the biggest fan of the performance (not because of Brian but because of Jessie J's terrible vocal performance), I wouldn't give it much thought, and move on. This Mark guy seems like an idiot: First he tries to sound all impressive (bragging about how big of a fan he was), then makes a wrong assumption that Brian only replies to "yes people" (then indirectly insults fans). The guy clearly hasn't listened to the audio recordings of Brian's guitar solo, then makes stupid comments about clothes. |
| Holly2003 30.08.2012 05:23 |
Gregsynth wrote: Even though I wasn't the biggest fan of the performance (not because of Brian but because of Jessie J's terrible vocal performance), I wouldn't give it much thought, and move on. This Mark guy seems like an idiot: First he tries to sound all impressive (bragging about how big of a fan he was), then makes a wrong assumption that Brian only replies to "yes people" (then indirectly insults fans). The guy clearly hasn't listened to the audio recordings of Brian's guitar solo, then makes stupid comments about clothes.So you want to discuss the substance of the guy's comments rather than Brian's idiotic response. Okay. Gregsynth wrote: Even though I wasn't the biggest fan of the performance (not because of Brian but because of Jessie J's terrible vocal performance), I wouldn't give it much thought, and move on.Brian is more than happy to discuss positive responses to his performance though ... Gregsynth wrote:This Mark guy seems like an idiot: First he tries to sound all impressive (bragging about how big of a fan he was), then makes a wrong assumption that Brian only replies to "yes people"Alternatively he might just be saying to Bran that he's not some random idiot, that he is an actual fan, and that DESPITE THAT, he thought Brian's performance was less than stellar. I'm not a big follower of Brian's Soapbox but it looks to me that Brian DOES surrond himself wth yes men and he DOES only respond to gushing praise. IF anything, his response just confirms that. Gregsynth wrote:The guy clearly hasn't listened to the audio recordings of Brian's guitar soloWell he's in good company then as 99.999999% of the world's population hasn't heard it either. Gregsynth wrote: then makes stupid comments about clothes.I agree, this is one comment that coud';ve been left out. But presumably positive comments about clothes are fine? Brian |
| qz08927 30.08.2012 06:48 |
tcc wrote: Brian seems to be a scary person to meet. I don't think I want to meet him in person in case I say the wrong thing and he will just let go his temper in public.Rubbish the poster was plainly ignorantly thoughtlessly outright rude, it deserved Brian's response. Brian probably considered that the poster thought such a post to him was OK even , and so wanted to make sure the poster learned IT WAS NOT OK to be so damn right rude, and so he publicly posted his reply. |
| qz08927 30.08.2012 06:57 |
Gregsynth wrote: Even though I wasn't the biggest fan of the performance (not because of Brian but because of Jessie J's terrible vocal performance), I wouldn't give it much thought, and move on. This Mark guy seems like an idiot: First he tries to sound all impressive (bragging about how big of a fan he was), then makes a wrong assumption that Brian only replies to "yes people" (then indirectly insults fans). The guy clearly hasn't listened to the audio recordings of Brian's guitar solo, then makes stupid comments about clothes.I thought it was good Jessie J's vocal much as good and far better than anyone has done. And Brian's Guitar solos always need listening to and re listening to, that is the point of the variations of a theme, there is always something else., |
| tcc 30.08.2012 08:01 |
qz08927 wrote:tcc wrote: Brian seems to be a scary person to meet. I don't think I want to meet him in person in case I say the wrong thing and he will just let go his temper in public.Rubbish I don't think you are the type of person I want to meet in person either :-) |
| Mr.QueenFan 30.08.2012 08:59 |
Brian was too soft on this guy! First of all, he shouldn't even waste is time or site space with idiots like that. There's plenty of room for that here in Queenzone. Brian has to learn not to take idiots seriously. They're idiots for a reason. He wasn't even trying to express an opinion, he was just trying to make Brian feels like shit and bring him down to his level of misery. To say that Roger was dressed like Jessie J's pimp was just another way of calling Jessie J a slut. A sneaky way of doing it so, using language that only mediocre people use. Brian played beautifully on the Olympics, and Queen and Jesie J did a great job. I realy loved to see Roger Taylor looking so healthier as i stated before. I accept that it wasn't everybody's cup of tea, but they can't please evrybody! And i'm glad that Brian isn't taking shit like this too seriously, and is continuing to get up and play the guitar. |
| winterspelt 30.08.2012 10:39 |
I usually dont care about this kind of stuff but I must admit that Brian did the right thing: That letter was useless, rude and out of the place. If that guy is a "fan since the 70s" or not, is not the point. Everybody can claim to be a Queen fan since 1972, who cares? That guy could be a liar... Now, everybody is entitled to have an opinion: In my point of view, I felt a disappointed with the performance at the olympics, but there are ways to express an opinion and this guy was there, pretending to be "a long time fan" (Why did he wrote that? To "gain some respect"? To "show how much he knows about the band"?) There are different ways to show how much we dislike (or hate)a performance without being rude... And, what about Brian's clothes? Does his (really ugly) clothes' designs affected his playing? No. As far as I remember, he didnt hit a bad note... Freddie used some really awful outfits too and his performances used to be amazing most of the times... So yeah, that guy got what he deserved... Brian did the right thing. |
| Gregsynth 30.08.2012 13:43 |
Roger looked great at the olympics! |
| Gregsynth 30.08.2012 14:02 |
Holly2003 wrote:Gregsynth wrote: Even though I wasn't the biggest fan of the performance (not because of Brian but because of Jessie J's terrible vocal performance), I wouldn't give it much thought, and move on. This Mark guy seems like an idiot: First he tries to sound all impressive (bragging about how big of a fan he was), then makes a wrong assumption that Brian only replies to "yes people" (then indirectly insults fans). The guy clearly hasn't listened to the audio recordings of Brian's guitar solo, then makes stupid comments about clothes.So you want to discuss the substance of the guy's comments rather than Brian's idiotic response. Okay.Gregsynth wrote: Even though I wasn't the biggest fan of the performance (not because of Brian but because of Jessie J's terrible vocal performance), I wouldn't give it much thought, and move on.Brian is more than happy to discuss positive responses to his performance though ...Gregsynth wrote:This Mark guy seems like an idiot: First he tries to sound all impressive (bragging about how big of a fan he was), then makes a wrong assumption that Brian only replies to "yes people"Alternatively he might just be saying to Bran that he's not some random idiot, that he is an actual fan, and that DESPITE THAT, he thought Brian's performance was less than stellar. I'm not a big follower of Brian's Soapbox but it looks to me that Brian DOES surrond himself wth yes men and he DOES only respond to gushing praise. IF anything, his response just confirms that.Gregsynth wrote:The guy clearly hasn't listened to the audio recordings of Brian's guitar soloWell he's in good company then as 99.999999% of the world's population hasn't heard it either.Gregsynth wrote: then makes stupid comments about clothes.I agree, this is one comment that coud';ve been left out. But presumably positive comments about clothes are fine? Brian Yes, I will discuss the guy's comments because his post was rude and uncalled for. There are other ways to write similar (but more polite) comments. Brian put the guy in his place. It's common sense to discuss only the positives about a performance on a public site, but I do remember seeing some less than enthusiastic posts concerning the Queen and Paul Rodgers collaboration from years back (Brian did reply to those). The guy came off as a random idiot by using ad hominem attacks (the Roger Taylor comment), making a stupid comment about the clothes (he shouldn't have even mentioned it, since clothes have nothing to do with a music performance), and writing false information down (about the guitar solo). If he was as big as a fan that he claims (he writes that he collects stuff), he would know that Brian's guitar solo has been different throughout the years. I'm sure if the guy worded his post different, Brian wouldn't have responded the way he did. |
| Donna13 30.08.2012 14:51 |
It was nice of Brian to share such an interesting letter from a fan with the rest of us. It makes me feel closer to him. |
| brENsKi 30.08.2012 16:07 |
yes. absolutely, the guy - a paying customer had no right whatsoever to voice his opinion so either the guy's comments are wrong and Brian's are wrong too, or both comments are ok |
| brENsKi 30.08.2012 16:25 |
tcc wrote: Brian seems to be a scary person to meet. I don't think I want to meet him in person in case I say the wrong thing and he will just let go his temper in public.if you go dressed as a fox or badger Brian will be really nice to you |
| Fireplace 30.08.2012 16:53 |
Yup, that's what you get for telling the truth these days. I agree with Mark on all counts, except the clothing which I find totally uninteresting. Freddie usually wore hardly anything at all and got away with it. The Brighton Rock solo has become devoid of any subtlety throughout the years (compare to the Live Killers version, especially the clean part), and although many of the youngsters here may believe Jessie J. a much more reputable singer than Paul Rodgers, I beg to differ. That said, Mark was also right in concluding that Queen-something were still better than most acts on the day. |
| Sebastian 30.08.2012 19:46 |
Holly2003 wrote: Regardless of the views expressed about music and costumes, Brian really has made an ass out of himself again here. He has chosen this letter to make a grand statement that he doesn't only respond to gushing praise on his Soapbox. So what does he then do? He belittles the fan and tells him - and presumably anyone else not totally 100% in agreement with Brian's views -- not to write to his Soapbox again! He is seriously deranged.Exactly. |
| Missreclusive 30.08.2012 20:06 |
Not deranged necessarily, insecure could be a word and in need of continual approval or validation. |
| Sebastian 30.08.2012 20:16 |
I do understand how frustrating it must be for him to be a professional musician and carefully compose a great solo, just for some random bloke to tell him off for using (some of) it forty years later. I do, however, think Brian should've learnt how to cope with that a long time ago and, indeed, I think his response confirms he DOES have a lot of trouble when facing people other than stepfords. |
| thomasquinn 32989 31.08.2012 04:01 |
...and the battle between stepfords and realists is raging again on QZ... |
| brENsKi 31.08.2012 06:59 |
perhaps another reason why queen (these days) aren't taken seriously? brian's seems to want approval too much his contemporaries, page, blackmore, gilmour, iommi, lifeson etc...just do their thing without having to rag someone who makes any kind of critical comment |
| GratefulFan 31.08.2012 10:00 |
God Brian is a bully sometimes. And how ironic is that disproportionate response to what we're presumably to see as discourteous and impetuous criticism when he's just fawned two and three letters up at people who make sweeping indiscriminate attacks on policy makers and farmers as murderous, shifty, greedy, dirty and general scumbags of the planet? Good Christ. The original writer was definitely a little obtuse, but the comment about Brian typically publishing only very positive correspondence, which is undeniably true, seemed linked to his next statement that he appreciated the response to the concerns about a lack of live 70s material. A negative gut reaction to these kind of fan comments is completely understandable, particularly initially, but a person reasonably in command of his ego and a sense of perspective is not going get through the delay inherent in written correspondence and various mental filters and come up with this response. The "don't bother writing again" is particularly off the charts. I saw a recent video interview of him in Tenerife and he talks about feeling a lot of loneliness. I'd be lonely too if I permanently banished everybody that presented uncomfortable or imperfect challenges to my thinking or actions and habitually stayed up all night alone answering email with no buffer of daylight or a partner or confidant to temper one's basest emotional reactions. I like and admire so much about Brian but this aspect of his personality when seen in the larger context of the way he deals with criticism on both the giving and receiving ends is truly a little staggering and a whole lot self defeating. Gather your emotions Brian, poke a little fun at the guy for simultaneously telling you to leave your solo in the 70s while appearing to endorse more live 70s material right now, let the low rent comments about the clothing speak for themselves, and offer (or not) whatever insight you might like to about musical and costume choices. It's not rocket science Dr. Rocket Scientist(ish). |
| malicedoom 31.08.2012 10:54 |
I liked his reply. A classy 'f off'. |
| GratefulFan 31.08.2012 12:25 |
It's not that classy though I don't think. At a glace it has the appearance of a measured response to intemperate criticisms but when you have the power of fame and a well visited 'Soap Box' and you're in complete control over the public presentation and the end of the "conversation", it's not that classy to be subtly belittling and publicly tell somebody never to write to you again. It's also fundamentally dishonest, or at least indicative of a pretty serious lack of self awareness, to present as an example of your willingness to engage criticism a response that telegraphs in no uncertain terms that critics risk closed-ended public rejection and a permanent vacation from corresponding with him at all. |
| ANAGRAMER 31.08.2012 13:26 |
I thought his coat looked great! I want one! |
| malicedoom 31.08.2012 14:39 |
Well, I liked 'Please don't bother writing again' to be followed-up by 'Cheers - Bri' |
| Indo77 31.08.2012 15:24 |
The guy was clearly being rude but what did strike me was Brian's response to the guy asking about the live 70s material. How difficult is it cleaning up some videotape footage for a release? |
| Sebastian 31.08.2012 16:20 |
Out of all of us who didn't like Brian's public whiney reply to him, how many will write to him and complain about it? If so, what will Brian's reaction be? |
| queenUSA 31.08.2012 18:33 |
I liked the way Brian handled it. Play with fire - get scorched. |
| people on streets 31.08.2012 20:14 |
WELL DONE BRIAN! (of course you are not reading this, it's queenzone after all, but in case you do: i repeat myself: WELL DONE!) I liked the performance, the shoes, the jacket, JJ, the Freddie tribute. All. WELL DONE! |
| people on streets 31.08.2012 20:16 |
Sebastian wrote:You both should get a life.Holly2003 wrote: Regardless of the views expressed about music and costumes, Brian really has made an ass out of himself again here. He has chosen this letter to make a grand statement that he doesn't only respond to gushing praise on his Soapbox. So what does he then do? He belittles the fan and tells him - and presumably anyone else not totally 100% in agreement with Brian's views -- not to write to his Soapbox again! He is seriously deranged.Exactly. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 31.08.2012 20:45 |
Brian has, and uses, the bully pulpit that he despises in so many others. |
| flash00. 31.08.2012 21:37 |
I thought the Olympics performance was great and I thought Brian sounded amazing and looked good in his jacket etc the fan did come across like he was just bitching but!! I'm a big believer in free speech good or bad take it on the chin like a man, I thought the "don't bother writing again" sounded slightly childish to be honest. Being an animal lover and support Brian's save-me campaign etc I will only start fully respecting the man when he stops turning a blind eye to the royal family hunting (off topic yes but speaks volumes about a person). |
| GratefulFan 31.08.2012 23:21 |
people on streets wrote:Alrighty then!Sebastian wrote:You both should get a life time membership to the Stepford Nation Fan Club and Lettuce Bar. You get a badge, a badgER, two Brian May Wizard Cloak coloring books and the I'll Have Your Guts for Garters Die You Wrong Headed Murderous Pimply Pubescent Carnivore WWRY Remix featuring Jesse J. If you pay 10 quid extra, once a year you can show up at the Dominion Theatre and Brian will kick you in the crotch.Holly2003 wrote: Regardless of the views expressed about music and costumes, Brian really has made an ass out of himself again here. He has chosen this letter to make a grand statement that he doesn't only respond to gushing praise on his Soapbox. So what does he then do? He belittles the fan and tells him - and presumably anyone else not totally 100% in agreement with Brian's views -- not to write to his Soapbox again! He is seriously deranged.Exactly. |
| Heavenite 01.09.2012 00:42 |
Brian is definitely defensive about criticism. Maybe it was too much crticism by those music mags in the old days. I remember a while ago Brian had a go on his Soap Box at this bloke who wrote an article critising the song Don't Stop Me Now, because its lyrics weren't consistent with science principles. It was clearly a joke and not a criticism of the song at all. But Brian, for some reason, didn't see it that way. I then wrote to his Soapbox to basically say "Bri, what are you doing?" but never heard anything back. I have subsequently tried to find that criticism of the guy that wrote that article, but haven;t been able to find it. Maybe its my lousy search skills. Or maybe somebody showed Bri my email and he decided to take his response down. Not sure. Re Queen's Olympic performance, I'm one of the 99.9% who haven't seen all of Bri and Rog's performance, but I like the idea that Brian did a guitar solo at such a big event in this consumer age, Especially an old favourite like Brighton Rock. I mean it was hardly the place to do something new, like George Michael did with his new single, although come to think of it, I'm not sure how many people would have known Brighton Rock either. I didn't actually mind the little bit of Jessie J that I saw on the news or on a very poor quality YouTube video. But I sort of wonder why Queen didn't use Kerry Ellis or Paul Rodgers to do the singing. And now that I think about it, that's the second Olympics that Freddie has missed out performing at because of his illness and premature death. I think that gives us some idea of how much he and the rest of us lost as a result of his early death. |
| dysan 01.09.2012 03:18 |
He didn't need to publish it, or reply, so from that point of view it gets a 'good on him' from me. I half agree with the poster but it's really unnecessary to address Brian directly with it. Also 'page, blackmore, gilmour, iommi, lifeson' have done very little to get a new generation involved in who they are. I'm not a massive fan of Queen being dragged into the NOW (I'd rather keep them as personal happy pure memories) but if they've decided to remain contempory with these duets and guest appearances that's fine. After all, they have done this throughout the history of the band. |
| Sebastian 01.09.2012 06:23 |
people on streets wrote:You both should get a life.I do have a life, and I love it by the way. I can't speak for Holly, but I'm sure he's also got a life. Why are you so rude with us? Because we don't worship Brian? If so, then you're even more pathetic. |
| brENsKi 01.09.2012 06:42 |
dysan wrote: Also 'page, blackmore, gilmour, iommi, lifeson' have done very little to get a new generation involved in who they are. I'm not a massive fan of Queen being dragged into the NOW (I'd rather keep them as personal happy pure memories) but if they've decided to remain contempory with these duets and guest appearances that's fine. After all, they have done this throughout the history of the band.that's my point exactly. Brian's contemporaries don't need to do anything other than they want... think about it. page - since zep split - 7 albums and 3 soundtracks blackmore - after rainbow split in the 90s he's released 10 blackmore's night albums in 13 years! gilmour - one solo album and one live album, but coutless colaborations - none of them what you might call "attention seeking NOW sh*t" iommi - he's done the sabbs/heaven and hell thing and certainly nothing "now" in the way of collaboration lifeson - one solo album some side projects - but certainly no "getting down with the kids" brian may - seems that since Freddie died the quality control went out the window. almost all of the queen+ collabs (note i said almost) are desperate "stay in the public eye so do it with some shit talentless current c*nt" and therein lies the problem - you can't have credibility AND sell your legacy to any sh*t band that'll cover/collaborate/remix/mashup your hit...esp when most of the f*cking time it's we will f*cking rock you |
| Sebastian 01.09.2012 08:43 |
Back in the 80's Queen chose to collaborate with Michael Kamen, David Bowie, Steve Howe (1989, technically, IIRC), Sidney Sax and the National Philharmonic Orchestra, instead of going with people like Boy George, Kylie Minogue, Paul Young, Bangles or the New Kids on the Block (probably more recognisable for the man in the street, but not as good musically). Now, Brian+Roger could try to work with the likes of David Gilmour, Lang Lang or Jeff Lyne, but instead choose people like Britney Spears, Jessie J, 5ive, Pink, Robbie Williams and an AI loser, most of the time. |
| Heavenite 01.09.2012 09:34 |
Good point brENski and Sebastian. I would much rather have a Starfleet type collaboration than a Milli Vanilli one. But I wonder how much obligation to Freddie or his memory that Brian and Roger feel to keep him in the public eye, so that he is never forgotten by the mainstream. On that criterion, they might have done rather well since Freddie left us. |
| brENsKi 01.09.2012 10:11 |
strange really that freddie's only colaboration was soemthing more credible than seeking acclaim from the masses...rather like those guitarists i mentioned whereas brian appears to be driven by public fame...and is behaving like singers tend to behave when they leave bands. if brian was really that into "keeping the queen name in the public eye" - how about a reworkings album of classic queen tracks with some real stars? you could stick some current bands like killers, metallica, foos, slash and king s of leon in with say some of the old guard...at least it'd be respectful...which is lightyears better an idea than all this mcfliveblobbywilliams crap... perhaps i'm being cynical, but something like this would never happen - as most of queen's classic singles were written by freddie, and Brian's not likely to do something that gives most of the writers royalties away |
| dysan 01.09.2012 11:08 |
I personally think Jessie J and Dappy hare more worthy of collaboration than Def Leppard and Bad News. And that's saying something. |
| john bodega 01.09.2012 14:15 |
Thing is, Bad News was a joke. It was funny. Every other shit collaboration you might care to mention has been done with a straight face. Queen+Anything is like wanking - it's less special the more often you do it. *cough* I'm with Brian on the fuckin' Soapbox post though. Alright, he's a 40+ year veteran and should have a thicker skin, but this message was fuckin' stupid. All this nonsense about what the guys were wearing - honestly, I wish Brian had fuckin' been harder on him. You don't write to a fashion blog to give them automobile advice, and you don't write to a premier fucking axeman to tell him his fashion sense is a bit on the nose. Who gives a fuck if Roger looked like a pimp? He IS pimp. |
| brENsKi 01.09.2012 16:35 |
but it makes brian look like a bigger tit than the guy he replied to. at least the OP can voice his opinion as a fan and 30 yr paying customer... brian should be above getting involved in petty squabbles...makes him look small minded and just ever so slightly insecure |
| qz08927 01.09.2012 21:02 |
brENsKi wrote: but it makes brian look like a bigger tit than the guy he replied to. at least the OP can voice his opinion as a fan and 30 yr paying customer... brian should be above getting involved in petty squabbles...makes him look small minded and just ever so slightly insecureBrian has every right to his free speech and every right to look and act alive, and be aware and wary of internet creeps. And he has the right not to suffer fools, and let the world know he wont. |
| qz08927 01.09.2012 21:12 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: I thought his coat looked great! I want one!Yes it was suitably eccentric and stood out,just the kind of magic and style you expect from Queen. I cannot understand the crticism, but it is obvious that was not the main focus and was thrown in as an excuse for the criticism born of anger, I think the fan was angry at the core, angry freddie is dead, but foolish to lash out like that. |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.09.2012 10:11 |
qz08927 wrote:brENsKi wrote: but it makes brian look like a bigger tit than the guy he replied to. at least the OP can voice his opinion as a fan and 30 yr paying customer... brian should be above getting involved in petty squabbles...makes him look small minded and just ever so slightly insecureBrian has every right to his free speech and every right to look and act alive, and be aware and wary of internet creeps. And he has the right not to suffer fools, and let the world know he wont. You have every right to mental healthcare. |
| mooghead 02.09.2012 13:21 |
qz08927 wrote: Great good for him and long overdue, Brian has replied to one of the miserable whingers. go here for The May treatment,and get a good spanking whingers beware! linkNobody cares what you think |
| brENsKi 02.09.2012 13:45 |
qz08927 wrote:are you brian may? cos i can't think of any other reason for such blinkered defence of the ramblings of a middle-aged manbrENsKi wrote: but it makes brian look like a bigger tit than the guy he replied to. at least the OP can voice his opinion as a fan and 30 yr paying customer... brian should be above getting involved in petty squabbles...makes him look small minded and just ever so slightly insecureBrian has every right to his free speech and every right to look and act alive, and be aware and wary of internet creeps. And he has the right not to suffer fools, and let the world know he wont. |
| qz08927 02.09.2012 20:08 |
brENsKi wrote:YOU ARE THE ONE WITH Aqz08927 wrote:are you brian may? cos i can't think of any other reason for such blinkered defence of the ramblings of a middle-aged manbrENsKi wrote: but it makes brian look like a bigger tit than the guy he replied to. at least the OP can voice his opinion as a fan and 30 yr paying customer... brian should be above getting involved in petty squabbles...makes him look small minded and just ever so slightly insecureBrian has every right to his free speech and every right to look and act alive, and be aware and wary of internet creeps. And he has the right not to suffer fools, and let the world know he wont. BLINKERED DEFENCE OF THE RAMBLINGS OF A MIDDLE AGED MAN The poisoned pen fan. |
| qz08927 02.09.2012 20:10 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote:And you sound like you need it.qz08927 wrote:You have every right to mental healthcare.brENsKi wrote:but it makes brian look like a bigger tit than the guy he replied to. at least the OP can voice his opinion as a fan and 30 yr paying customer...brian should be above getting involved in petty squabbles...makes him look small minded and just ever so slightly insecureBrian has every right to his free speechand every right to look and act alive, and be aware and wary of internet creeps. And he has the right not to suffer fools, and let the world know he wont. |
| qz08927 02.09.2012 20:12 |
mooghead wrote:And Brian doesn't care about the feelings of the whingersqz08927 wrote: Great good for him and long overdue, Brian has replied to one of the miserable whingers. go here for The May treatment,and get a good spanking whingers beware! linkNobody cares what you think so beware.... Whinger. |
| qz08927 03.09.2012 03:32 |
The whingers dont like this thread |
| thomasquinn 32989 03.09.2012 04:15 |
1) Learn to write. The verb is "to whine". The noun would thus be "a whiner". Even you should be smart enough to figure that out. 2) Nobody likes you around here. It's nothing to do with the thread. |
| qz08927 03.09.2012 05:39 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: 1) Learn to write. The verb is "to whine". The noun would thus be "a whiner". Even you should be smart enough to figure that out. 2) Nobody likes you around here. It's nothing to do with the thread.you think i havent noticed? You actually think i care ? i dont like whingers and arrogant scum like you so touche you moranic wannabe and, by the way, nobody of importance cares what you think. |
| thomasquinn 32989 03.09.2012 06:07 |
Coming from you, that's about the biggest compliment imaginable. Thank you. |
| The Real Wizard 03.09.2012 11:24 |
dysan wrote: Also 'page, blackmore, gilmour, iommi, lifeson' have done very little to get a new generation involved in who they are.I'd debate Page and Lifeson. The LZ DVD from 2003 has been watched by tens of millions of kids on youtube. I'm sure Page knew it would put Zeppelin on the online map, as the only officially available footage prior to that was from The Song Remains The Same, much of which was interspersed with non-concert stuff. As for Rush - the kids know Moving Pictures now because of Rock Band, to the point that they played the entire album every night on the last tour. Every time I see Rush, the audience gets younger and younger. They are connecting with the kids. I'd argue that Rush are bigger now more than ever. That said, their chosen methods vs. Brian's obviously can't be compared. But I can't blame Brian for his choices. Queen are second to The Beatles, and to maintain that you have to connect with as many people as you can. What better way to reach the next generation than to perform with Lady Gaga or at the Olympic closing ceremonies? Sure, Brian could collaborate with Lang Lang and no doubt it would be a creatively good choice. But doing it with Lady Gaga will reach a thousand times more people. Let's face it - most of Brian's creative work lies elsewhere these days. He has done it all with music, and now focuses more energy on astronomy, stereo photography and animal rights issues. Good on him for doing what he wants instead of being a prisoner of what other people think he should be doing. |
| AlbaNo1 03.09.2012 15:36 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: |
| brENsKi 03.09.2012 15:39 |
not quite, they're similar but not variants of each other. whine/: A long, high-pitched complaining cry. whinge: Complain persistently and in a peevish or irritating way |
| AlbaNo1 03.09.2012 16:04 |
So the fan may have whinged, Brian definitely whined |
| Sebastian 03.09.2012 16:40 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Sure, Brian could collaborate with Lang Lang and no doubt it would be a creatively good choice. But doing it with Lady Gaga will reach a thousand times more people.So much for musicianship above commercial appeal. Where's the Brian who wrote Prophet's Song and Good Company instead of going with a Donny Osmond kind of thing (which would've taken him five minutes to write and two to arrange and would probably sell a lot as a single)? He seemed to have died with Freddie ... well, no, because Resurrection, etc., were great. Give me a well-made musically-extraordinary dozen-seller over a well-made musically-mediocre million-seller any day. |
| qz08927 03.09.2012 20:07 |
scum who's only thrill is degrading and mocking people and art, dont like this thread. Their arguments are self justified as based on reason by the use of personal insults, their bitterness is both their weakness and their badge of honour. Human excrement is their only trustworthy product, and their fellow pigs roll in it with them endlessly into the void. |
| qz08927 04.09.2012 03:40 |
I do wish some people would read this thread everyday, and learn their long needed lessons from it. |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.09.2012 04:07 |
qz08927 wrote: scum who's only thrill is degrading and mocking people and art, dont like this thread. Their arguments are self justified as based on reason by the use of personal insults, their bitterness is both their weakness and their badge of honour. Human excrement is their only trustworthy product, and their fellow pigs roll in it with them endlessly into the void. You wouldn't know art if it hit you in the face with a baseball-bat. Which it should. |
| thomasquinn 32989 04.09.2012 04:08 |
brENsKi wrote: not quite, they're similar but not variants of each other. whine/: A long, high-pitched complaining cry. whinge: Complain persistently and in a peevish or irritating way Ah, I see. Turns out you learn something new every day indeed, which means I can get back to bed now as I'm through for today :P |
| Sebastian 04.09.2012 17:55 |
Still, Brian does both IMO. |
| Saint Jiub 04.09.2012 20:44 |
qz08927 wrote: qz08927 who's only thrill is degrading and mocking people and art, likes this thread. qz08927 arguments are self justified as based on reason by the use of personal insults, their bitterness is both their weakness and their badge of honour. Human excrement is qz08927 only trustworthy product, and his fellow stepford pigs roll in it with them endlessly into the void.I fixed qz08927 quote ... |
| qz08927 04.09.2012 23:47 |
Panchgani wrote:Another ignorant sheep, who does not even have a foot in any argument, yet blindly joins in ,and to show he is part of this chimpish club of idiots, plagiarizes my clever and most insightful insults (if i may say so myself, and yes i will say so, ha!) against the cretin breed in here.qz08927 wrote: qz08927 who's only thrill is degrading and mocking people and art, likes this thread. qz08927 arguments are self justified as based on reason by the use of personal insults, their bitterness is both their weakness and their badge of honour.SPELLCHK CHIMPY Human excrement is qz08927 only trustworthy product, and his fellow stepford pigs roll in it with them endlessly into the void.I fixed qz08927 quote ... And by the way Panchgani chimp number? Was Brian WRONG TO INSULT THE INSULTER? I liked what he did, it is all that i do myself. |
| thomasquinn 32989 05.09.2012 04:15 |
Are you *still* here? Don't you have to go to school? |
| Mack_Ireland 06.09.2012 13:31 |
I'm really sure that Brian May could give a flying f&*$ what the original 'fan' or any of the experts, collectors or whingers on this forum think! It's his life, his career and his music. The rest of you should get a grip and enjoy whatever music you want and take the opportunity to shut up about the rest. I enjoy the forum for the news about forthcoming concerts, releases and such but could do without the self-aggrandisement of some posters pontificating about what Brian & Roger should do - f&*$ off and get a life. |
| brENsKi 06.09.2012 13:36 |
Sebastian wrote:he was kidnapped by the ghost of stock-aitken & waterman and held to ransom for four days, the the demands weren't met they shot him and sent back a look-alike that plays only papThe Real Wizard wrote:Sure, Brian could collaborate with Lang Lang and no doubt it would be a creatively good choice. But doing it with Lady Gaga will reach a thousand times more people.So much for musicianship above commercial appeal. Where's the Brian who wrote Prophet's Song and Good Company instead of going with a Donny Osmond kind of thing (which would've taken him five minutes to write and two to arrange and would probably sell a lot as a single)? He seemed to have died with Freddie ... well, no, because Resurrection, etc., were great. Give me a well-made musically-extraordinary dozen-seller over a well-made musically-mediocre million-seller any day. |
| Mack_Ireland 06.09.2012 13:38 |
And before someone gives me a hard time for being a "newbie", I've been a member for a couple of years, a Queen fan since 1975 and was at Wembley in '86 for the best concert I've ever attended. |
| brENsKi 06.09.2012 15:52 |
Mack_Ireland wrote: I'm really sure that Brian May could give a flying f&*$ what the original 'fan' or any of the experts, collectors or whingers on this forum think! It's his life, his career and his music. The rest of you should get a grip and enjoy whatever music you want and take the opportunity to shut up about the rest. .well i for one am certainly not goign to accuse you of only being a "johnny come lately", but i will criticise your stance on the above. it's about free speech principally, but secondly, if our "idols" get lavished and adorned with praise when they do something great, why the f*ck shouldn't the shit they churn out be subject to a proportionate level of disapproval? if you bought a car and loved it, you'd tell everyone...however if you bought another car and it was full of faults, broke down regularly and just didn't perform well, you'd EQUALLY have every right to tell EVERYONE and ANYONE how shit it was...you might even feel so annoyed that you'd tell the manufacturer (that is YOUR right)...or would YOU keep quiet and keep paying the repair bills for your shit car? Brian May has been making shit cars since 1995, and he needs telling, either that or he should get out of the car business and satrt making helicopters :-) |
| AlbaNo1 06.09.2012 16:34 |
Taking this car analogy you'd tell everyone it was dodgy, word would get out in reviews, and the result would be damaged reputation and lower sales. Rather like in the music industry . You wouldnt be personally criticising the car designer or engineers for their style of shoes. If you had one chance to message Brian May and be sure of a response would you really make it a criticism? Yes everyone has freedom of speech but this guy used it to make himself look like a plum, and Brian allowed himself to get dragged down to his level. |
| brENsKi 06.09.2012 16:47 |
of course i'd criticise him to his face TCR was his "austin allegro" complete with square steering wheel i think that despite this guy "looking a plum" has anyone ever thought he may have thought his "attack" thru more than we give him credit? what if he only did it to get "Brian to bite" to make him "look a c*nt" ? |
| AlbaNo1 06.09.2012 16:51 |
If in person I reckon youd fall to his feet and kiss his clogs before begging him to play the solo on Still Burnin. |
| Sebastian 06.09.2012 20:11 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: If in person I reckon youd fall to his feet and kiss his clogs before begging him to play the solo on Still Burnin.Maybe that's what *you* would do, but it doesn't mean the rest of the world is the same as you. Some may be, some may not. |
| AlbaNo1 07.09.2012 06:58 |
Its DEFINITELY what I would do. I have a fondness for that solo. |
| brENsKi 07.09.2012 10:46 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: If in person I reckon youd fall to his feet and kiss his clogs before begging him to play the solo on Still Burnin.please don't tell me what you reckon i would do i have little respect or liking for the B.H.M. of the third millenium... personally, i think that while the whole civilised world was scratching around panicking over the "millenium bug" it turns out that it's only affect was on the personality of tall-curly-haired-clog-wearing rock stars and it turns them form respected, considerate and musically articulate deep thinkers into arrogant, money-grubbing limelight-begging has-beens |
| shoney0248 07.09.2012 11:29 |
Brian, Please, let me say firstly on behalf of my daughter Emma and myself we are huge fans of yours. You were amazing along with Roger and Jesse J, your outfit was awesome. For me I was so looking forward to the closing ceremony and your efforts were so worth the wait, fantastic. We just wanted to say thank you for all the years of pleasure your playing of "The Red Special" has given and may that continue for many years to come. The thought you might read this E mail, would make our day very special. Take care, kind regards Mick and Emma |
| Heavenite 08.09.2012 04:45 |
Hi there shoney My guess is that you have a better chance of Brian reading this on Brian's Soapbox. Its easy enough to find, but here is a link for you. link Hope you get answered. |
| AlbaNo1 08.09.2012 05:21 |
brENsKi wrote:AlbaNo1 wrote: If in person I reckon youd fall to his feet and kiss his clogs before begging him to play the solo on Still Burnin.please don't tell me what you reckon i would do i have little respect or liking for the B.H.M. of the third millenium... personally, i think that while the whole civilised world was scratching around panicking over the "millenium bug" it turns out that it's only affect was on the personality of tall-curly-haired-clog-wearing rock stars and it turns them form respected, considerate and musically articulate deep thinkers into arrogant, money-grubbing limelight-begging has-beens |
| tomchristie22 08.09.2012 06:22 |
brENsKi wrote: personally, i think that while the whole civilised world was scratching around panicking over the "millenium bug" it turns out that it's only affect was on the personality of tall-curly-haired-clog-wearing rock stars and it turns them form respected, considerate and musically articulate deep thinkers into arrogant, money-grubbing limelight-begging has-beensI agree with this, and it also brings attention to something that annoys me in all of this Brian bashing. It's pretty justified for people to be annoyed at Brian recently, with all of his odd decisions and changes of opinion. But some people seem to think that warrants taking it further, and saying that he's always been a poor songwriter and only out to draw attention to himself. People seem completely willing to forget how thoughtful and talented he's always been because of the events of the last decade. |
| brENsKi 08.09.2012 16:19 |
like i said, i only have an issue with Brian from the current millenium. think it's fair to say that up until then he was pretty consistent, both in quality of output and attitudes/opinions so with that in mind, i am happy to defend my [consistent] position |
| john bodega 09.09.2012 04:50 |
*shrug* I hated the Jessie J spot, but I dunno. I can't help but feel like the guy writing about their fashion sense deserved a shitblasting. Who really gives a fuck what Brian was wearing? Having said that, in Brian's position I might've made the response a little less bitchy - and possibly a private one. It's not like the world needs to hear about this. I'd much rather hear about something constructive from the Dr. |
| thomasquinn 32989 09.09.2012 05:49 |
Brian May: great songwriter, distasteful person. I don't know what he used to be like in private, and in fact I don't know what he's like in private now, but his public face has grown steadily more unpleasant. As opposed to some (mostly those accusing others of "Brian-bashing"), I see a difference between the person and the musician. I like the musician a lot, I couldn't care less for the person. |
| qz08927 09.09.2012 07:18 |
why isnt this topic finished yet? People still going on and on? Why cant you just face the facts, a lot of people in here think it's ok to insult people, though i bet they would not do it face to face, They are the true stepfords, who are being controlled by the so called freedom of the internet, thinking they can just treat people like shit and it's ok. Brian doesn't think being personally insulted is ok and wanted everyone to know, so he posted the comment by the stepford. |
| qz08927 09.09.2012 07:27 |
" I couldn't care less for the person." quoting the commodity number 32989 That is the problem with your kind, you have no respect for people at all, so dont moan when you are treated like a commodity , and dont moan about the product, because you are not a person just a buyer , a commodity, a means of making money on the market. |
| brENsKi 10.09.2012 12:57 |
qz08927 wrote: Why cant you just face the facts, a lot of people in here think it's ok to insult people, though i bet they would not do it face to face,.you have got a fucking cheek. you have no idea what other people would do face-to-face with brian May or any other celeb. i for one, would defintely say what i think about him and his double standards.... qz08927 wrote: They are the true stepfords, who are being controlled by the so called freedom of the internet, thinking they can just treat people like shit and it's ok.tell you what, i will tell YOU exactly what i think of you. i think you are a complete and utter moron of the first order. my opinions are not controlled by anyone, tell you waht f**kface, pm me and i'll tell you where i live and you can come and chat to me face to face - and i won't be hiding behind any internet anonymity when i tell you what a fuckwit i think you are qz08927 wrote: Brian doesn't think being personally insulted is ok and wanted everyone to know, so he posted the comment by the stepford.you still don't f*cking get it do you? it's a simple equation for basic grade maths students... if the guy posting the message to brian is an idiot/moron/prick/c*nt/w*nker, then by consequence brian making similar replies to the guy's post is also whatever that guy was - because his reply was of the same nature |
| thomasquinn 32989 11.09.2012 08:54 |
@brENsKi: This fruitcake spends half his time thinking up insults to hurl at Sacha Baron Cohen, then spends the other half bemoaning how people are so insulting and uncivilized (to him). This guy is probably some little teenager who is very confused and more than a little obtuse. |
| brENsKi 11.09.2012 11:23 |
thick in stature, thick in the head? |
| qz08927 19.09.2012 14:07 |
brENsKi wrote:"because his reply was of the same nature"qz08927 wrote: Why cant you just face the facts, a lot of people in here think it's ok to insult people, though i bet they would not do it face to face,.you have got a fucking cheek. you have no idea what other people would do face-to-face with brian May or any other celeb. i for one, would defintely say what i think about him and his double standards....qz08927 wrote: They are the true stepfords, who are being controlled by the so called freedom of the internet, thinking they can just treat people like shit and it's ok.tell you what, i will tell YOU exactly what i think of you. i think you are a complete and utter moron of the first order. my opinions are not controlled by anyone, tell you waht f**kface, pm me and i'll tell you where i live and you can come and chat to me face to face - and i won't be hiding behind any internet anonymity when i tell you what a fuckwit i think you areqz08927 wrote: Brian doesn't think being personally insulted is ok and wanted everyone to know, so he posted the comment by the stepford.you still don't f*cking get it do you? it's a simple equation for basic grade maths students... if the guy posting the message to brian is an idiot/moron/prick/c*nt/w*nker, then by consequence brian making similar replies to the guy's post is also whatever that guy was - because his reply was of the same nature No, it was not of the same natere at all, it was civilized but firm. A concept and manner I do not expect the likes of you and your fellow trogolites to understand or appreciate. |
| brENsKi 19.09.2012 16:37 |
your quest for moron of the year has become a one-horse race, congrats, the council of Mornoica said that the trophy is in the post |
| qz08927 19.09.2012 18:34 |
I wonder who he is talking to? Whoever it is his point is illogical as usual. a one horse race cannot be a race, but an idiot talking to himself is worrying. His rambling seems to suggest he entered some kind of competetion for imbeciles and lost, which i find suprising, but try and try againis always a good motto, i am sure he will succeed eventually . |
| thomasquinn 32989 20.09.2012 00:04 |
qz08927 wrote: "because his reply was of the same nature" No, it was not of the same natere at all, it was civilized but firm. A concept and manner I do not expect the likes of you and your fellow trogolites to understand or appreciate.Disregarding for a moment that you haven't got a clue what "civilized" means, your response would be slightly less hilarious if you had bothered to look up the word "troglodyte". Yes, troglodyte. Not 'trogolite'. Not that you even know what the word means... |
| YourValentine 21.09.2012 06:35 |
brENsKi wrote: personally, i think that while the whole civilised world was scratching around panicking over the "millenium bug" it turns out that it's only affect was on the personality of tall-curly-haired-clog-wearing rock stars and it turns them form respected, considerate and musically articulate deep thinkers into arrogant, money-grubbing limelight-begging has-beensI actual fact the only effect of the millenium bug was killing the forum of the Queen fan club website :-) It was the beginning of the most glorious days of the Queenzone notice board.. |
| brENsKi 21.09.2012 11:04 |
think the 2012 Mayan prophecy will fuck up this website and leave the world alone, cos it's the site is in self destruct anyway now with trolls like qz08927 making stupid comments about "one horse race" without thinking to actually look it up on google first... for the sake of the newly crowned moron president qz08927, a "one horse race" is an expression that means that there was only ever really one contender |