Kevinrm15 23.06.2012 11:03 |
Anyone believe this? link |
Marknow 23.06.2012 11:21 |
http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1314070.html |
fr1986 23.06.2012 11:46 |
Intresting, but i thought hammersmtith 75 was to be release this year. i only hope that when the time comes to release live magic they release the whole knebworth show, Does anybody know when the live cds will be released?? |
Marknow 23.06.2012 11:50 |
fr1986 wrote: Intresting, but i thought hammersmtith 75 was to be release this year. That is what a lot of people have thought for a while now, me included. Although a BD of Budapest has been spoken about, should this be true I would be gladly surprised. |
Hangman_96 23.06.2012 13:00 |
I think it must be true this time. Let's just wait and see. Would be good if they're going to add some bonus material. |
MadTheSwine73 23.06.2012 13:51 |
At this point, anything new is appreciated. |
fr1986 23.06.2012 15:43 |
right marknow, although we were expecting hammersmith a full hd release of budapest will be great. It's gonna be also wonderful because it will mean that the only concert of the magic tour to be released will be knebworth. |
aber 23.06.2012 17:56 |
There is also DVD - link |
Marknow 23.06.2012 18:22 |
queenpoland wrote: There is also DVD - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Zq9nr6pTbIsJ:www.evo88.com/en/music%3Fpage%3Dshop.product_details%26flypage%3Dflypage.tpl%26product_id%3D589%26category_id%3D43+queen+eagle+rock+budapest&cd=3&hl=pl&ct=clnk&gl=pl&client=opera Nice find. |
advanced159 23.06.2012 19:28 |
link under the number of reproductions and likes you can see the logo of eagle rock |
Bad Seed 24.06.2012 03:43 |
On the latest rehearsal pics you can see that they're using Budapest for the Bo Rap segment, must be a genuine release. |
tero! 48531 24.06.2012 03:52 |
It seems that Queen Productions has learned nothing from the previous releases... Again we have Polish websites posting all the information two months before any official message. |
john bodega 24.06.2012 04:43 |
I'd settle for a decent 70's live omnibus. Quality doesn't have to be stellar. It's the performance that counts, and in those days Queen were cooking. |
Holly2003 24.06.2012 04:58 |
This is very underwhelming. After all the hints about what's going to be released, they go for Budapest -- yet another Magic Years concert and a re-release. When are we going to see the 1970s concerts? |
pittrek 24.06.2012 05:19 |
Why do you call it a re-release ? Budapest was never released on any digital format, it was released only on VHS and laserdisc, sped up from 24fps to 25fps, brutally edited and overdubbed. IF they would fix the speed (and I really mean the SPEED, not just the PITCH as they did with Montreal), and maybe even put out the whole show (IF they have the full negative) it could be a really great release ! As you know I'm the one who keeps on bitchin' about their releases, but in the case they would do this CORRECTLY (that means AT LEAST fix the speed) it would be REALLY great |
rocknrolllover 24.06.2012 05:20 |
Holly2003 wrote: This is very underwhelming. After all the hints about what's going to be released, they go for Budapest -- yet another Magic Years concert and a re-release. When are we going to see the 1970s concerts?I think very very soon, I hope after Budapest will be Rainbow or Hammersmith Odeon 1975 |
Holly2003 24.06.2012 06:04 |
pittrek wrote: Why do you call it a re-release ? Budapest was never released on any digital format, it was released only on VHS and laserdisc, sped up from 24fps to 25fps, brutally edited and overdubbed. IF they would fix the speed (and I really mean the SPEED, not just the PITCH as they did with Montreal), and maybe even put out the whole show (IF they have the full negative) it could be a really great release ! As you know I'm the one who keeps on bitchin' about their releases, but in the case they would do this CORRECTLY (that means AT LEAST fix the speed) it would be REALLY great Even if they do everything you say (which I doubt - based on Wembley, Montreal & Queen+PR, there will be overdubs) I would still prefer they do proper releases of 1970s concerts before releasing another version of a show that's already available, albeit only on video. And it's a Magic Years release -- yawn. Creatively, this was close to their weakest period. |
rocknrolllover 24.06.2012 06:36 |
I feel that none of you do not want to Budapest on blu ray. Everybody's moaning |
Holly2003 24.06.2012 06:42 |
rocknrolllover wrote: I feel that none of you do not want to Budapest on blu ray. Everybody's moaning Only about your double negatives. |
e-man 24.06.2012 08:20 |
in terms of production, this is the best gig Queen have in their archive. it makes sense to release it while its technology is still up to date some of the 70s stuff will look inferior compared to budapest. of course; I hope they put it all out, but budapest is the best thing they have to offer in terms of visual quality |
Hangman_96 24.06.2012 09:20 |
I think that Rainbow might be released after Budapest. |
aber 24.06.2012 09:43 |
September - "Freddie Mercury - The Great Pretender" October - Budapest November - Hammy '75 |
tero! 48531 24.06.2012 10:25 |
pittrek wrote: Why do you call it a re-release ? Budapest was never released on any digital format, it was released only on VHS and laserdisc, sped up from 24fps to 25fps, brutally edited and overdubbed. IF they would fix the speed (and I really mean the SPEED, not just the PITCH as they did with Montreal), and maybe even put out the whole show (IF they have the full negative) it could be a really great release ! As you know I'm the one who keeps on bitchin' about their releases, but in the case they would do this CORRECTLY (that means AT LEAST fix the speed) it would be REALLY greatIt's a re-release of the title, not a format-specific re-release. The Star Wars trilogy didn't suddenly become new movies with new releases when they first appeared on DVD, they were re-releases of the previously availabe titles. ...And I have to say, I would love it if they re-released this as a re-edit with the full concert footage, and a made a bonus section of all the original documentary footage. Unfortunately the chances of that are pretty slim. |
Flash Jazz 24.06.2012 10:42 |
Man I fucking loved what they did to Montreal, this is more than welcome :D |
Hangman_96 24.06.2012 11:37 |
queenpoland wrote: September - "Freddie Mercury - The Great Pretender" October - Budapest November - Hammy '75Are you sure? Maybe you should change it to "November - Rainbow '74"? |
Kevinrm15 24.06.2012 11:44 |
I personally think Rainbow will be out in November. I think their goal for the DVD box sets next year is to use up all the bits they got that aren't good enough for a Bluray release. Ranbow and Budapest are the 2 best choices for Bluray that they got in the archives. So they'll probably release those as stand alones. |
Hangman_96 24.06.2012 11:56 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: I personally think Rainbow will be out in November. I think their goal for the DVD box sets next year is to use up all the bits they got that aren't good enough for a Bluray release. Ranbow and Budapest are the 2 best choices for Bluray that they got in the archives. So they'll probably release those as stand alones.I agree. This must be true. I hope it's being released on 19th or 20th November. |
cmsdrums 24.06.2012 12:24 |
The recent official press release for the Adam Lambert shows stated that Hammersmith 75 was a forthcoming DVD release so I'd expect that before stuff like the Rainbow which hasn't even been rumoured in 'official' circles yet. |
rocknrolllover 24.06.2012 12:46 |
cmsdrums wrote: The recent official press release for the Adam Lambert shows stated that Hammersmith 75 was a forthcoming DVD release so I'd expect that before stuff like the Rainbow which hasn't even been rumoured in 'official' circles yet.From where such confidence? |
pittrek 24.06.2012 13:00 |
tero! 48531 wrote:No. The Star Wars movies are a VERY bad example.pittrek wrote: Why do you call it a re-release ? Budapest was never released on any digital format, it was released only on VHS and laserdisc, sped up from 24fps to 25fps, brutally edited and overdubbed. IF they would fix the speed (and I really mean the SPEED, not just the PITCH as they did with Montreal), and maybe even put out the whole show (IF they have the full negative) it could be a really great release ! As you know I'm the one who keeps on bitchin' about their releases, but in the case they would do this CORRECTLY (that means AT LEAST fix the speed) it would be REALLY greatIt's a re-release of the title, not a format-specific re-release. The Star Wars trilogy didn't suddenly become new movies with new releases when they first appeared on DVD, they were re-releases of the previously availabe titles. ...And I have to say, I would love it if they re-released this as a re-edit with the full concert footage, and a made a bonus section of all the original documentary footage. Unfortunately the chances of that are pretty slim. Because the 1997 VHS tapes are NEW versions of the movies, actually brand new movies. The 2004 DVDs are again NEW movies. The 2011 BluRays are again NEW movies. Lucas keeps BRUTALLY changing the movies for every release. |
pittrek 24.06.2012 13:01 |
rocknrolllover wrote:From "the recent official press release for the Adam Lambert shows"cmsdrums wrote: The recent official press release for the Adam Lambert shows stated that Hammersmith 75 was a forthcoming DVD release so I'd expect that before stuff like the Rainbow which hasn't even been rumoured in 'official' circles yet.From where such confidence? |
Marknow 24.06.2012 13:10 |
This php Doc from Evo88 mentions both the DVD and Blu-ray on page one. https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:qqhetpjCgj4J:evo88.com/index2.php?page%3Dshop.pricelist%26option%3Dcom_virtuemart%26Itemid%3D14%26mode%3Dpdf+&hl=en&gl=ie&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg11poUSOrspfS99aTur2UvvgsPotjO1Q9lcggg9OQALqtX-FW8kgeu6OdqkLDnOMGdC5RMl7C4E6cbS6V4d3JIRePC3hqgh52QASUy3l7mxrf5qUGVuJ9be3Mi7T-foNZ-oGij&sig=AHIEtbTmLQw-mOXtnriUZ3gQIxuMGLS2XA&pli=1 Confidence growing slightly. |
Marknow 24.06.2012 13:14 |
There is also a cached link for the Japanese site. link |
pittrek 24.06.2012 13:16 |
Plus - page 3 - Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid BluRay Page 6 - Queen Rock Montreal DVD |
Marknow 24.06.2012 13:22 |
pittrek wrote: Plus - page 3 - Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid BluRay Page 6 - Queen Rock Montreal DVD Page 1 is "Coming Soon". Page 2 onwards are existing products in alphabetical and format order. |
pittrek 24.06.2012 13:23 |
Oops :-) I only searched for the word "Queen" |
fr1986 24.06.2012 16:51 |
i just downloaded the php doc from that website and it is not there any more. I mean no info on queen live in budapest dvd/bd, could it have been removed?? |
Marknow 24.06.2012 17:08 |
fr1986 wrote: i just downloaded the php doc from that website and it is not there any more. I mean no info on queen live in budapest dvd/bd, could it have been removed?? Strange that it it not there in the download, but still there on the active link. |
david (galashiels) 24.06.2012 17:42 |
still no sign of,edinburgh 82. or q+paul from secc being released then. shame. |
tero! 48531 24.06.2012 22:08 |
pittrek wrote:So you can substitute Star Wars for any other movie of your own personal preference, and the point is still valid.tero! 48531 wrote:No. The Star Wars movies are a VERY bad example. Because the 1997 VHS tapes are NEW versions of the movies, actually brand new movies. The 2004 DVDs are again NEW movies. The 2011 BluRays are again NEW movies. Lucas keeps BRUTALLY changing the movies for every release.pittrek wrote: Why do you call it a re-release ? Budapest was never released on any digital format, it was released only on VHS and laserdisc, sped up from 24fps to 25fps, brutally edited and overdubbed. IF they would fix the speed (and I really mean the SPEED, not just the PITCH as they did with Montreal), and maybe even put out the whole show (IF they have the full negative) it could be a really great release ! As you know I'm the one who keeps on bitchin' about their releases, but in the case they would do this CORRECTLY (that means AT LEAST fix the speed) it would be REALLY greatIt's a re-release of the title, not a format-specific re-release. The Star Wars trilogy didn't suddenly become new movies with new releases when they first appeared on DVD, they were re-releases of the previously availabe titles. ...And I have to say, I would love it if they re-released this as a re-edit with the full concert footage, and a made a bonus section of all the original documentary footage. Unfortunately the chances of that are pretty slim. If a movie has been officially released, and is subsequently released on another format, it's called a re-release. It's not a new release. |
rocknrolllover 25.06.2012 00:32 |
Is it interesting to me one thing, why Eagle Rock chosen for release Queen's concert? |
rocknrolllover 25.06.2012 04:47 |
rocknrolllover wrote: |
emrabt 25.06.2012 05:01 |
link They are chosen becuase they make the "best" dvd for the cheapest money and sell to the most vendors. |
Flash Jazz 25.06.2012 05:08 |
Didn't Eagle Rock do Montreal aswell? :p |
rocknrolllover 25.06.2012 05:52 |
Flash Jazz wrote: Didn't Eagle Rock do Montreal aswell? :pEagle Rock did |
Hangman_96 25.06.2012 06:02 |
They also released ANATO 30th anniversary. |
e-man 25.06.2012 06:24 |
rocknrolllover wrote: Is it interesting to me one thing, why Eagle Rock chosen for release Queen's concert?of Budapest turns out as good as Montreal, I have no objection! |
pittrek 25.06.2012 06:30 |
Montreal ... good ? Really ? I thought the only good release of Montreal is the Pioneer version from 2001 A few comparison pics : WWRY: link QRM : link WWRY : link QRM : link But I must admit, that the SOUND of the QRM is much better than on WWRY |
e-man 25.06.2012 07:27 |
pittrek wrote: Montreal ... good ? Really ? I thought the only good release of Montreal is the Pioneer version from 2001 A few comparison pics : WWRY: link QRM : link WWRY : link QRM : link But I must admit, that the SOUND of the QRM is much better than on WWRYI do agree that some of the pq on QRM is odd. dunno if that's the source material or the infamous "chaps" not doing their job....? soundwise though; QRM is KILLER |
bago.vidovic 25.06.2012 08:01 |
link This video shows their tehnique od remaster. |
conejo29 25.06.2012 09:21 |
looking this link ... A kind of magic link |
pittrek 25.06.2012 09:46 |
bago.vidovic wrote: link This video shows their tehnique od remaster.That's quite sad. So they f*d up the colours INTENTIONALLY :-( |
emrabt 25.06.2012 10:18 |
The colour is so high on that budapest sample that each person has their own orange aura, not even Eagle Rock would do that. The phill collin sample really sums things up, it's tinted blue for some reason and there's far less detail, film grain is a good thing. 16 mm doesn't need much work done to it, it's already above the resolution of Blueray, scratch removal and normalising the colours are the only things that should need doing. |
GinjaNinja 25.06.2012 11:14 |
@conejo29 I don't think that's truly HD, looks to me like it's been upscaled. Either that or it's been badly treated for noise. Also sounds like it's playing at the same incorrect speed as previous releases. |
Marknow 25.06.2012 11:56 |
pittrek wrote:bago.vidovic wrote: link This video shows their tehnique od remaster.That's quite sad. So they f*d up the colours INTENTIONALLY :-( The difference is fairly big all right. |
Marknow 25.06.2012 11:59 |
GinjaNinja wrote: @conejo29 I don't think that's truly HD, looks to me like it's been upscaled. Either that or it's been badly treated for noise. Also sounds like it's playing at the same incorrect speed as previous releases. I think you are right, I can't see how anybody thinks the youtube video is from a official source, it even says upscailed in the description tags. Nice bit of restoration from some guy on his home pc, but that's about it. |
conejo29 25.06.2012 16:14 |
ok. i understand. The point is, if this video remastered in home looks very well, the true bluray release will be a huge thing to see. |
99jaystang 26.06.2012 18:25 |
I hope they correct the speed/sound , And hope they got the original film stock from the Hungarian government. |
OwenSmith 28.06.2012 06:23 |
pittrek wrote: Montreal ... good ? Really ? I thought the only good release of Montreal is the Pioneer version from 2001 A few comparison pics : WWRY: link QRM : link WWRY : link QRM : link But I must admit, that the SOUND of the QRM is much better than on WWRYI have both copies on DVD and generally I prefer We Will Rock You. I have the NTSC version with DTS soundtrack (not sure if there were others) so I assume it plays at the correct speed and pitch given it is a film source. I only bought Queen Rock Montreal and Live Aid for the Live Aid sections. I bought the PAL DVD of this sinc Live Aid was shot on PAL video so again hopefully the Live Aid sections are the correct speed and pitch. But it's hard to be 100% sure. |
KevoM 29.06.2012 06:50 |
I wonder if they'll make a big deal in the release notes about it being a concert by a western rock band in the eastern bloc at the time? Obviously has no relevance today especially with younger fans. Budapest today, nice as it may be, is just another 'stag/hen party euro city' for boozy Brits. |
conejo29 29.06.2012 11:09 |
looking this link ... link |
pittrek 29.06.2012 11:34 |
OwenSmith wrote:I must admit that I have seen QRM just once, and it took me almost a week, simply because it was almost physically painful to watch it with the f****d up (sorry, REMASTERED) picture, but if I remember correctly the PAL release had only the PITCH corrected, but not the SPEED (I didn't watch the DVD for many years now so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). The Live Aid disc seemed OK to me (PAL video transferred to PAL DVD - there is not really much you can make wrong :-) )pittrek wrote: Montreal ... good ? Really ? I thought the only good release of Montreal is the Pioneer version from 2001 A few comparison pics : WWRY: link QRM : link WWRY : link QRM : link But I must admit, that the SOUND of the QRM is much better than on WWRYI have both copies on DVD and generally I prefer We Will Rock You. I have the NTSC version with DTS soundtrack (not sure if there were others) so I assume it plays at the correct speed and pitch given it is a film source. I only bought Queen Rock Montreal and Live Aid for the Live Aid sections. I bought the PAL DVD of this sinc Live Aid was shot on PAL video so again hopefully the Live Aid sections are the correct speed and pitch. But it's hard to be 100% sure. |
cmsdrums 29.06.2012 11:43 |
If you can't stand the picture of QRM Pittrek, just listen to the sound - its the best there is by far of the Queen live audio mixes |
pittrek 29.06.2012 11:49 |
cmsdrums wrote: If you can't stand the picture of QRM Pittrek, just listen to the sound - its the best there is by far of the Queen live audio mixesYes, the sound is REALLY great ! |
tero! 48531 29.06.2012 12:13 |
conejo29 wrote: looking this link ... linkSome observations... 1) We have a cinema preview of the title in September, which probably means that Budapest is actually counted as two out of the three events in the September - November period. 2) We have 25 minutes of new material which is going to be documnetary material from 85-86 instead of concert footage. 3) Queen really needs a better creative team than the one who came up with the Hungarian Rhapsody -prefix. |
pittrek 29.06.2012 12:21 |
Come on ! It could be called "Hungary Rocks" or "Queen Rock Hungary" |
Marknow 29.06.2012 12:50 |
conejo29 wrote: looking this link ... linkWow, thats very interesting, good find, shame I live in a small city that will probably be skipped. |
The Real Wizard 29.06.2012 13:05 |
Remastered in high definition and 5.1 surround sound, this special cinema event includes 25 minutes of never-seen-before footageAnd there we have it - the entire concert. This is very good news. Can't see why it wouldn't be released on DVD. |
Hangman_96 29.06.2012 13:12 |
tero! 48531 wrote: 2) We have 25 minutes of new material which is going to be documnetary material from 85-86 instead of concert footage.How's that? So it's actually going to be the same incomplete version which was released on VHS in 1987, isn't it? |
pittrek 29.06.2012 14:55 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Bob, read it once more :Remastered in high definition and 5.1 surround sound, this special cinema event includes 25 minutes of never-seen-before footageAnd there we have it - the entire concert. This is very good news. Can't see why it wouldn't be released on DVD. this special cinema event includes 25 minutes of never-seen-before footage, following the band from just after their legendary performance at Live Aid at Wembley in the United Kingdom, through the year leading up to the concert in BudapestPersonally I think we will get the full AUDIO, but the missing VIDEO bits will be replaced with random documentary shots from 85-86 |
Marknow 29.06.2012 15:35 |
pittrek wrote: Personally I think we will get the full AUDIO, but the missing VIDEO bits will be replaced with random documentary shots from 85-86 It kinda sounds like Mafilm did not contribute anything new to this project. Everything visual may be sourced from their old 80's theatrical release. Same old cut concert, shame. Hope I'm wrong. |
tero! 48531 29.06.2012 15:42 |
pittrek wrote:...And if you read it even more closely, it doesn't say anything about adding any audio either.The Real Wizard wrote:Bob, read it once more :Remastered in high definition and 5.1 surround sound, this special cinema event includes 25 minutes of never-seen-before footageAnd there we have it - the entire concert. This is very good news. Can't see why it wouldn't be released on DVD.this special cinema event includes 25 minutes of never-seen-before footage, following the band from just after their legendary performance at Live Aid at Wembley in the United Kingdom, through the year leading up to the concert in BudapestPersonally I think we will get the full AUDIO, but the missing VIDEO bits will be replaced with random documentary shots from 85-86 For all we know it's the same exact ridiculous cut of the movie, with 25 minutes of random backstage footage added as an introduction (and bonus footage of the blu-ray release). :/ |
tero! 48531 29.06.2012 15:44 |
pittrek wrote: Come on ! It could be called "Hungary Rocks" or "Queen Rock Hungary"Well... You do have a point there. I do wonder what's wrong with calling it Live in Budapest like it was originally titled? |
tero! 48531 29.06.2012 15:47 |
Lostman wrote:I only know what's writetn in that press release, and it saystero! 48531 wrote: 2) We have 25 minutes of new material which is going to be documnetary material from 85-86 instead of concert footage.How's that? So it's actually going to be the same incomplete version which was released on VHS in 1987, isn't it? "25 minutes of never-seen-before footage, following the band from just after their legendary performance at Live Aid at Wembley in the United Kingdom, through the year leading up to the concert in Budapest" It says absolutely nothing about any new concert footage, which tells me there isn't any. |
The Real Wizard 29.06.2012 17:17 |
Actually, come to think it - you're probably right. The wording implies that the 25 minutes of extra footage are from various points in 1986 leading up to the Budapest gig. Still, it'll be interesting to see what's used and what's left out. I can't imagine them using the curtailed versions of Tie Your Mother Down and Crazy Little Thing Called Love again. |
Roger's Beard 29.06.2012 18:59 |
If all they've got Bob is the edited film (and I believe that to be the case), then that's all we will get. Whilst it'd be nice to have a BD release of this, I can't say I'm impressed at what is effectively a re-issue as opposed to something new. If they release something new this year BEFORE the Budapest release, then I'll be okay with that (hah! It'll be the Ukraine gig I expect rather than proper Queen), but so far this year just sucks of Queen going back to their old schedule of bugger all of interest. |
popy 29.06.2012 22:33 |
QRM was also showed on cinema screens before (?) the Blu-Ray/DVD release. Did they played the full video or it was also an edited down version? For Budapest, maybe they holding back some of the footage for the Blu-Ray/DVD release. Also, on this press release, there's no word about if it will be the same VHS edit with the cuts on TYMD or CLTCL... So hold your breaths until September. |
on my way up 30.06.2012 10:09 |
1 name: Miklos A couple of months ago he wrote on this board the situation concerning Budapest... And indeed, it looks like they do NOT have the 10 or 15 miles of film that gathered dust in a Hungarian archive for over 10 years after the concert... Maybe now the footage will eventually show up, or were people so stupid to throw away all that precious film?? |
Gaabiizz 03.07.2012 23:13 |
Yeah! is PERFECT! |