mickyparise 30.11.2011 22:43 |
Queen drummer Roger Taylor has officially debunked recent reports regarding plans for a new album from the band that would feature Freddie Mercury’s vocals taken from demo recordings. In an exclusive conversation with Ultimate Classic Rock, Taylor said that while there are no plans for such an album, they are indeed working to prepare songs that Mercury recorded with Michael Jackson for future release. “I’ve got to tell you, there won’t be an album. There’s just not enough and the last thing I want to do is have a sort of barrel-scraping exercise. But there’s a couple of great tracks that Freddie recorded with Michael Jackson that Brian and I are working on and they are good. So at some point they will surface I think when we feel it’s a good moment. I don’t really want to ride any sort of wave there. So that’s an interesting thing, but that will be probably later some point next year.” Taylor will be in Los Angeles on Monday to judge the final round of auditions for the ‘Queen Extravaganza,’ a North American talent search that he created to build the group of musicians and singers who will help to celebrate the music and legacy of Queen. This new group will serve as the officially-sanctioned band for the 2012 Queen Extravaganza Live tour. Stay tuned for the rest of our conversation with Roger, which will be online soon! link |
MrFunster 01.12.2011 01:07 |
FUCK THEM ALL !!! LONG LIVE MERCURY |
ITSM 01.12.2011 03:20 |
Bad news - I'm really disappointed! |
dysan 01.12.2011 03:53 |
After scraping the barrel, they can no longer scrape the barrel. Good on him for realising that. So.... anthology then? |
philip storey 01.12.2011 04:09 |
I can't stand Michael Jackson so this news really does very little to excite me.They should concentrate on a bloody good anthology and clean up their solo albums and release them with extra tracks ,remixes.Interresting to see the latest Deep Cuts CD selling for £3.99 on Amazon.I new i should have waited !! |
Queen1973 01.12.2011 04:09 |
I just knew it....Queen forever, its been like that for years with Queen releases Coming Soon Etc. Ok let us make up the album with the best demos out there. There not offical releases so lets start now. New york new york is my choice for the Unoffical demos album. |
FriedChicken 01.12.2011 04:17 |
Great! |
MadTheSwine73 01.12.2011 05:47 |
Oh well. I'm pissed now. |
Hangman_96 01.12.2011 06:04 |
I did expect it. |
cmsdrums 01.12.2011 06:49 |
That does seem to go against what Roger said recently about reviewing old material, when he specifically cited Dog With A Bone, and stated that unreleased archive stuff like that seems to be presented to them more and more for checking out. Perhaps that will be kept for the mythical archive set(s), or he is now trying to quell any anticipation or expectation of a new album but there is a loose idea to do one. |
thomasquinn 32989 01.12.2011 07:23 |
I'm not spending a single cent on any Michael Jackson-crap, not even if it does feature Freddie Mercury prostituting himself. |
rhyeking 01.12.2011 07:41 |
I think it's fair to say we've never been given the entire big picture regarding what's in the vault, what the states of those tracks are and what Brian and Roger's exact intention are/were regarding them. We have to remember that entertainment news is not really interested in the straight reporting of cold hard facts (especially when they don't have any or only have very few). What gets reported is what gets readers to buy that publication, so unrelated statements, such as "We're working on the FM + MJ tracks, finally" and "we're always being sent copies of unreleased stuff by the guys going through the vault" get morphed into headlines like "Queen are going through the vault to finish tracks, possibly for a new album." Sometimes it's deliberate, sometimes it's the reporter not understanding Queen, the situation or why one thing has nothing to do with the other. Entertainment news is not like CNN, where they plan to have full coverage of a story from start to finish, with detailed analyses and talking heads. All that matters is the story in front of them. Today, it's "Queen to record new album," tomorrow it's "Lady Ga Ga dresses weird again," next week its, "Singer in rehab." The only time you'll get larger-than-average coverage is if someone dies (the bigger they are, the more coverage) or of the Flavour Of The Month band/artist. Anyway, I do hope this paves the way for an Anthology set, but with Roger focusing on the Extravaganza, your guess is as good as mine. |
MAYniac91 01.12.2011 07:56 |
Never expect only a second a new album with unreleased songs! |
Rubbersuit 01.12.2011 08:42 |
Three thoughts:
1- I'm dissapointed that there's not a lot of unreleased new songs in the archives. 2- I'm happy they aren't going to scrape the barrel and put out crap. 3- Fk Michael Jackson, but I understand that these songs have to come out - it is music history having 2 prodigious (and now dead) talents record together. 4- I'm really glad that Roger and Brian are involved with the post-production instead of the Jackson family - who'd probably throw some Jermaine vocals in the mix. 5- I can't count 6- The "I can't count" joke never gets old. |
Gaabiizz 01.12.2011 14:13 |
Fuck My Dear !! |
The Real Wizard 01.12.2011 14:55 |
Good. There's not a chance they'd be able to top Made In Heaven. The last Queen album is a very strong one, and there is no need to go out with a whimper. Bring on the old concerts and boxed set. |
Hangman_96 01.12.2011 15:20 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Good. There's not a chance they'd be able to top Made In Heaven. The last Queen album is a very strong one, and there is no need to go out with a whimper. Bring on the old concerts and boxed set. I agree with you, Bob. They'd better at first release a few concerts from the 70's than such album like this. |
MercurialFreddie 01.12.2011 15:33 |
He didn't say that there isn't many of the demos. He DID said that there is not enough for a new album. That's a difference. And I suppose they were looking through the recent ones (demos recorded during 1982-1991) as not to make a confusion with "whose is that voice ". I assure you, if they would rework the early demos (72'-80) people would ask "wow, who's that :D?" As I said in another topic on the very same matter. It is said that they won't have a go at the "barrel-scraping exercise" as we won't get to hear what's there in the vaults without anniversary/anthology. What is more, if they reworked these domes with John and David Richards the result could be magnificent. If these demos would have been reworked wisely with Freddie on vocals the outcome and success and praise and that's all would be guaranteed. But nah, they give us the MJ + FM tracks so people would stop asking where is the new material ? In my opinion they're tired and want to concentrate on some childish stuff like Queen Extravaganza (aka: who would sing in our tribute band?) |
Micrówave 01.12.2011 15:43 |
The Real Wizard wrote: There's not a chance they'd be able to top Made In Heaven.Zing! Pow! Whammo! |
mooghead 01.12.2011 16:01 |
" the last thing I want to do is have a sort of barrel-scraping exercise. " He says before flying out to judge some absolute bullshit Queen x factor shite. The fucking moron. |
MadTheSwine73 01.12.2011 19:23 |
mooghead wrote: " the last thing I want to do is have a sort of barrel-scraping exercise. " He says before flying out to judge some absolute bullshit Queen x factor shite. The fucking moron. I can't agree more. |
Fireplace 01.12.2011 19:48 |
Sometimes I really don't get you people. Why would you concern yourselves with some ancient low quality recordings with the old faggot, when there are so many fresh new things to be enjoyed? Forget old demo's, we want more musicals, collaborations with Gaga, Beyonce, Britney, Anita Dobson, 5ive and, if possible, a concept album with Adele. I have this great idea for a concept about a society where rock 'n' roll is out of fashion and forbidden, and two young kids called Elt Benton and Brooke Greggs try to bring it back. In order to do this, they must somehow manage to convince a young bespectacled wizard to throw a ring into a mountain top, and turn two nondescript ageing ex-rockers into pigeons so they can fly up and take a dump on a Freddie Mercury statue. All this while trying to avoid their mortal enemy, "The-Spoilsport-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named-Except-When-He-Cashes-A-Royalty-Paycheck". Then they all go on a quest for The One Boxset and live happily ever after, except those who were dead to begin with. Instant joy, even if i do say so myself. |
no_stairway 01.12.2011 20:19 |
very dissapointing news indeed. |
the dude 1366 01.12.2011 20:37 |
Finishing songs with Michael Jackson IS scraping the barrel. New Rule... If anyone releases an album after they're dead it probably sucks. If Tupac,or Elvis thought it was good enough to be released, they would have released them when it would have helped them get blown- Bill Maher |
Ivo-1976 02.12.2011 04:53 |
It's just a bloody shame that Brian and Roger stopped making NEW music, they are both excellent songwriters and theý could've made so many great songs. In a creative point of view, they have retired a few years ago. Look at how other artists are still going strong and are full of energy (Springsteen new album and tour at 62). Here we are begging for some songs that were recorded over 20 years ago. Brian and Roger don't seem to care. Collecting awards, playing WWRY over and over and promoting a musical and organizing talent shows is the core business now. Where has the creativity gone? Why record new songs, why do live shows if you can have it the easy way. They could've done so much more and it could've been done so much better, if there was genuine passion for music and fans. Respect to John for quitting at the right moment. He knew where things were going, and stepped out. |
shamar 02.12.2011 06:40 |
Buahahaha. Didn't I say that won't be any new album and all this rumors are just another Queen bullshit? They are pathetic. |
brENsKi 02.12.2011 08:18 |
Lostman wrote: The Real Wizard wrote: Good. There's not a chance they'd be ableto top Made In Heaven. The last Queen album is a very strong one, and there is no need to go out with a whimper. Bring on the old concerts and boxed set. I agree with you, Bob. They'd better at first release a few concerts from the 70's than such album like this. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I also agree...although i think it increasingly unlikely that either will ever happen. i suspect that with QPL we will get exactly what we have always got - re-hashed repeats of the same old stuff, with slightly different packaging and an increasing number of "documentation errors" face facts time: QPL are not going to release any Queen anthology - not enough money to be made and as for the live 70s concerts - sorry but no chance - the crap they had on their "live download site" a couple of years ago was as good as it'll ever get - which is crap if QPL had any kind of interest in their fans - they give the masters of ALL the unreleased demos, outtakes and unfinished songs to their production team, have them clean them up a little and upload ALL of them to their website - where REAL fans can pay to download whichever tracks they are interested in at least this way tehy'd make some money from these tracks before they all eventually leak, and WE the fans would get to have/hear them but this wont happen as QPL, Brian Roger and the rest don't give a flying gnat's bollock for the real fans...so f**king screw them!!!! |
mooghead 02.12.2011 15:52 |
Fireplace wrote: Sometimes I really don't get you people. Why would you concern yourselves with some ancient low quality recordings with the old faggot, when there are so many fresh new things to be enjoyed? Forget old demo's, we want more musicals, collaborations with Gaga, Beyonce, Britney, Anita Dobson, 5ive and, if possible, a concept album with Adele. I have this great idea for a concept about a society where rock 'n' roll is out of fashion and forbidden, and two young kids called Elt Benton and Brooke Greggs try to bring it back. In order to do this, they must somehow manage to convince a young bespectacled wizard to throw a ring into a mountain top, and turn two nondescript ageing ex-rockers into pigeons so they can fly up and take a dump on a Freddie Mercury statue. All this while trying to avoid their mortal enemy, "The-Spoilsport-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named-Except-When-He-Cashes-A-Royalty-Paycheck". Then they all go on a quest for The One Boxset and live happily ever after, except those who were dead to begin with. Instant joy, even if i do say so myself. one dream, one soul... actually, no dream, no soul, no morals, no ethics, no pride. Just... time to shut up and go away... Queen 1971-1991 (or 2011 if you believe the crap) Can this be the last post ever..?? |
TomP63 02.12.2011 16:22 |
Pretty disappointing news indeed. And I couldn't agree more with the fact that re-newing the MJ tracks is indeed scrapping the barrel. But a new album could easily be released, what is gonna happen with the tracks Greg Brooks has played at the conventions, will those tracks ever see the light? He did played various complete tracks, did he played those tracks just as a teaser or did he let us hear those songs for the main reason that they are surfacing songs, complete and ready for release? Anthology? Or am I completely whishful thinking here? Tom Have to have some fun...............Brian...........Sleepin' on the sidewalk.................. |
fran1979 02.12.2011 16:24 |
F...ING WANKERS! |
Band Forever 02.12.2011 16:35 |
I believe the fans would vote with their hard earned cash whether Roger and Brian's efforts would be scraping the barrel. I believe Roger and Brian probably don't have the motivation to finish these outtakes due to there associated projects, this tribute band, the film about the band, WWRY and now even enjoying at long last the hard earned adulation of their peers and the wider music audience with all these awards belatedly bestowed on the band. Or another theory perhaps John's reluctance to participate maybe another factor as he is a big part othe band's sound. I only speak for myself and hope they reconsider there decision, as any product with Freddie would sell sell sell!!! I also heard there was a full vocal of Rock It sung by Freddie, as I am sure he must have laid down vocals for the tracks Roger and Brian sang lead vocals which could have brought dimension and added dynamism to these tracks. That's my tuppence. |
brENsKi 02.12.2011 16:52 |
they obviously have our intentions at heart....c*nts |
k-m 02.12.2011 17:04 |
Fireplace wrote: Sometimes I really don't get you people. Why would you concern yourselves with some ancient low quality recordings with the old faggot, when there are so many fresh new things to beenjoyed? Forget old demo's, we want more musicals, collaborations with Gaga, Beyonce, Britney, Anita Dobson, 5ive and, if possible, a concept album with Adele. I have this great idea for a concept about a society where rock 'n' roll is out of fashion and forbidden, and two young kids called Elt Benton and Brooke Greggs try to bring it back. In order to do this, they must somehow manage to convince a young bespectacled wizard to throw a ring into a mountain top, and turn two nondescript ageing ex-rockers into pigeons so they can fly up and take a dump on a Freddie Mercury statue. All this while trying to avoid their mortal enemy, "The-Spoilsport-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named-Except-When-He-Cashes-A-Royalty-Paycheck". Then they all go on a quest for The One Boxset and live happily ever after, except those who were dead to begin with. Instant joy, even if i do say so myself. I'm not sure if it's a fair way of putting things, dear Fireplace. Some fans just said they are happy Queen will not attempt to create a new album from scrapes of songs ones tried in the studio and left alone. I read through what fans wrote and I have not come across any suggestions that they'd rather prefer a new 'Britney duet' or something. And no-one said they don't want to hear archive material with the old faggot either. |
k-m 02.12.2011 17:20 |
Ivo-1976 wrote: It's just a bloody shame that Brian and Roger stopped making NEW music, they are both excellent songwriters and theý could've made so many great songs. In a creative point of view, they have retired a few years ago. Look at how other artists are still going strong and are full of energy (Springsteen new album and tour at 62). Here we are begging for some songs that were recorded over 20 years ago. Brian and Roger don't seem to care. Collecting awards, playing WWRY over and over and promoting a musical and organizing talent shows is the core business now. Where has the creativity gone? Why record new songs, why do live shows if you can have it the easy way. They could've done so much more and it could've been done so much better, if there was genuine passion for music and fans. Respect to John for quitting at the right moment. He knew where things were going, and stepped out. I like the overall feel of your post, but I also think that Bri and Rog did try to leave Queen behind and do their own thing, but it simply didn't work. Let's not forget, music biz is not the easiest one and neither of them is Bruce Springsteen either, although WE might appreciate them more in terms of musicianship. For many years I also agreed with what you wrote about John, but recently I do miss his involvement on some projects. |
shamar 02.12.2011 17:34 |
"scraping the barrel." Yeah. Q Extravaganza is not "scraping the barrel." They're like: We've never said there'll be a new album. We said that we're listenning to old demos with Freddie's vocals. |
Fireplace 02.12.2011 18:19 |
k-m wrote:I'm not sure if it's a fair way of putting things, dear Fireplace. Some fans just said they are happy Queen will not attempt to create a new album from scrapes of songs ones tried in the studio and left alone. I read through what fans wrote and I have not come across any suggestions that they'd rather prefer a new 'Britney duet' or something. And no-one said they don't want to hear archive material with the old faggot either The problem with the written word is that the writer's original intention sometimes simply does not come across. In this case, just to be perfectly clear, it was sarcasm. The LAST thing I want is more pop-collaborations and more musical stuff, I'd prefer even the most crappy sounding demo with Freddie. I would never refer to Freddie as "the old faggot", except in sarcasm. His art and vivaciousness are sorely missed, all the more in comparison to aforementioned collaborations. |
k-m 03.12.2011 09:42 |
Fireplace wrote:k-m wrote:I'm not sure if it's a fair way of putting things, dear Fireplace. Some fansjust said they are happy Queen will not attempt to create a new album from scrapes of songs ones tried in the studio and left alone. I read through what fans wrote and I have not come across any suggestions that they'd rather prefer a new 'Britney duet' or something. And no-one said they don't want to hear archive material with the old faggot either The problem with the written word is that the writer's original intention sometimes simply does not come across. In this case, just to be perfectly clear, it was sarcasm. The LAST thing I want is more pop-collaborations and more musical stuff, I'd prefer even the most crappy sounding demo with Freddie. I would never refer to Freddie as "the old faggot", except in sarcasm. His art and vivaciousness are sorely missed, all the more in comparison to aforementioned collaborations. Yes, I did get the sarcasm in your post, I simply don't know if there was any need for it. Nevermind. |
br5946 06.12.2011 16:16 |
I'm really disappointed. I thought things were looking up because new material was being unearthed, instead of constant compilations *cough* cow manure *cough*. Instead, they say they're working on the '83 Jackson collaberation demos. Er... wait, don't two of those three demos already exist in bootleg form? (Note the sarcasm in that previous sentence) Why, yes I believe they do! And - correct me if I'm wrong here - I think the Jackson-vocal version of There Must Be More to Life Than This has already been given an official release on one of his boxsets. USELESS. |
brENsKi 06.12.2011 17:20 |
just out of interest...did he also say
"we won't be prostituting our music and scraping any barrels with our collaborations from now on...no more we will rock you, American Idol Pop Star Bollox or 5ive, Blobbie Williams, McBluebottle, Beyonce, etc" ???????????????????? ............thought Not!!!!! |
matt z 08.12.2011 17:57 |
mooghead wrote: " the last thing I want to do is have a sort of barrel-scraping exercise. " He says before flying out to judge some absolute bullshit Queen x factor shite. The fucking moron. I understand what you INTEND TO MEAN.... BUT... there's a clear distinction in the CONTEXT of the expression. Scraping the barrel is about product. Your qualm is with their focus and intent. I.e. angered they won't be releasing anything for you. The X-factor type shit...that comparison is inaccurate as well. They merely asked for people to audition. This wasn't broadcast for ratings etc. nor to ...woops... it WAS shilling old product. But hey, PINK FLOYD has an "authorized" tribute band. They do very well. These guys are expecting to "hang it up" soon. I've got no problem with them doing this. Hopefully it's a fitting tribute to ...... THEMSELVES. still, i think it's sorta ridiculous going out and dressing up like an old time act. scratch that,.... VERY ridiculous. Unless it was done as a humorous "one-off" joke. I saw the Smashing Pumpkins open a show at Dodgers Stadium, dressed up as the BEATLES. The screen was in Black and White etc... that was a tribute. a One-off. Dressing up in a leotard is just kinda weird... these days (and THOSE days as well) Meh. They can do whatever they like. I haven't bought a Queen album in over 6 years... and that's just strange. I used to collect their stuff... even have a toy chevy with NOTW artwork all over it. |
matt z 08.12.2011 18:03 |
br5946 wrote: I'm really disappointed. I thought things were looking up because new material was being unearthed, instead of constant compilations *cough* cow manure *cough*. Instead, they saythey're working on the '83 Jackson collaberation demos. Er... wait, don't two of those three demos already exist in bootleg form? (Note the sarcasm in that previous sentence) Why, yes I believe they do! And - correct me if I'm wrong here - I think the Jackson-vocal version of There Must Be More to Life Than This has already been given an official release on one of his boxsets. USELESS. You're wrong. They've never been officially released. A QZ-er had the decency to inform me that the MJ+FM songs were copied from some friends of Fred's cassettes. (people can't keep things a secret) |