| QueenCuttings.com 01.12.2010 02:39 |
Hello Queen fans, It's Ale here, QueenItalia.it and QueenCuttings.com webmaster. I'm writing you to officially confirm that David Richards was our guest in celebrating our (The Italian Queen Community link 5th anniversary on line, in Rome last 27th Nov. He was very kind and always smiling, he was really willing with all the fans that were there at STAZIONE BIRRA, one of the most famous disco-pub in Ciampino (Rome). During his speech, he told us that he found a tape with some sessions from 1989, he completely forgot. He played us something and it was really interesting. Something that nobody ever listen to before. The fact is: we are a community of fans, and one of our mission is to SHARE. Share passion, share stories, share all. So, to avoid that CRAP files or bad quality recordings of that night would make any speculation or used as "something to trade secretely" or things like this, I DECIDED on my own responsability to ask all the people I know were recording last night, not to share but send me their stuff in order to CHECK it, repairs and clear if necessary and then GIVE THE QUEEN COMMUNITY ONLY THE BEST VERSION POSSIBILE: My philosophy is: It's impossible to ask all the 300 people that was there NOT to share nothing. So, as in every case that demos would be on line, so It's better if we, the community that organized the event, share only the best version in a nice way. So, for your pleasure, this is our YouTube channel: link You will find: AFFAIRS (an improvisation - Freddie's voice too - from 1989) GRAND DAME (a never finished song, instrumental, without Freddie's voice - from 1989) an early version of BARCELONA (that Richards told us Freddie recorded with the only purpose to take the tape to a translator to have the verses sung in spanish) It was played a different version of DON'T TRY SO HARD too, as soon as I receive stuff from our members, I will upload the best version, as I already did with the other. Later, I will share links to have .wav files directly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The last thing I can say is that I asked David if he was contacted by Queen Production to be "ready" to produce something next year, to celebrate Queen's 40 years. He simply replied "sorry, I cannot reply to this question" with a smile on his face. I think it could be considered a positive warning :-) Rock on my mail: alessandro.cannarozzo@gmail.com |
| YourValentine 01.12.2010 03:49 |
Thank you so much, Ale :-) You are the best! I have been playing them the whole morning:-) |
| queenboot 01.12.2010 04:31 |
Thank you very much Ale!!!!!! |
| Fmarton 01.12.2010 04:56 |
Thanks. |
| people on streets 01.12.2010 05:25 |
cool stuff! Thanks for the share...! Very kind! |
| QueenCuttings.com 01.12.2010 06:33 |
Please, is the "Barcelona" demo the same that is in Freddie's Solo Box Set (2001) in your opinion? I cannot check now and i think It's better I put off from YouTube if the answer is YES. But I seem to remember there were differences, this was the first impression I had when I listen to it during our convention. Thanks for the help! Rock on |
| ole-the-first 01.12.2010 06:50 |
Wow, that's great! |
| Mercury Roadrunner 01.12.2010 06:53 |
Dear Ale, its eems that it is a different version of "Barcelona", not the one that was on the Box Set. And... THANK YOU SO MUCH! Thats the real GIFT for all the Queen fans! Thank you for being so kind to share it, God bless you. |
| Mr Mercury 01.12.2010 07:26 |
Thanks for these :) |
| Vali 01.12.2010 07:56 |
Ale, my friend !! hope you and your family are doing fine ! most specially your children !! many, many thanks for this super-special gift !! it's fantastic ! cheers Marc |
| Rami 01.12.2010 08:52 |
Great!! Wonderful!!! Thank you so much!!!! |
| Wijnand 01.12.2010 08:57 |
THANKS THANKS THANKS! |
| The Fairy King 01.12.2010 08:58 |
Great stuff!! Thanks a million! |
| Hitman 01.12.2010 09:36 |
thanks a lot, grazie mille! this Affairs sounds fantastic!!! |
| PiotreQ 01.12.2010 09:41 |
Excellent stuff! Thank you very much, Ale! :-) |
| wrak 01.12.2010 10:09 |
many thanks for this. |
| Eric Taylor 01.12.2010 10:17 |
Thank YOU vERY mUCH!!! |
| rschoorl 01.12.2010 10:17 |
Thank you!!! A great contribution, in addition to your site. |
| MercurialFreddie 01.12.2010 10:45 |
ATTENTION ! Please let someone with better ears check/confirm ( I think it is the "Freddie Vocal Sleeve" ver.) if that's the same version (Barcelona) which has been put on the FM Solo Box Set as people responsible for the copyright could ask You Tube to take down the site. |
| Kuijpy 01.12.2010 10:49 |
Hello, upload everything you've got please! Thank You from the NETHERLANDS:D |
| princetom 01.12.2010 10:51 |
THX a lot ! pretty good quality for a convention recording ! greets, |
| Benn 01.12.2010 11:16 |
Ale, This is excellent - thank you so much for sharing; people like you are so few and far between but you are incredibly highly valued. Is there a chance that these might possibly become split and torrented to be added to Jam Monkey's archive? Benn |
| pittrek 01.12.2010 11:19 |
Very nice from you to share it, thanks |
| Leonardo Venegas 01.12.2010 11:21 |
Thank you very much, another piece of Queen history!!! Cheers!!! |
| QueenCuttings.com 01.12.2010 11:38 |
mondeo112 wrote: ATTENTION ! Please let someone with better ears check/confirm ( I think it is the "Freddie Vocal Sleeve" ver.) if that's the same version (Barcelona) which has been put on the FM Solo Box Set as people responsible for the copyright could ask You Tube to take down the site. Somebody already said that it seems a different version - but I agree with you, mondeo112: can anyone other confirm is different from what has been already released? Thank you for all your kind comments on me Rock on |
| daga 01.12.2010 12:31 |
Very big surprise and big thanks from Poland :) |
| angermair73 01.12.2010 13:17 |
Excellent! |
| FriedChicken 01.12.2010 13:21 |
How exciting! Thanks a million! |
| Pim Derks 01.12.2010 13:22 |
Very interesting. Shame that the band probably will never jamsessions/improvisations like this. Thanks for sharing! |
| roberto2 01.12.2010 13:40 |
Big thanks |
| www.bigotonline.com.ar 01.12.2010 13:51 |
More wikileaks! |
| Jam Monkey 01.12.2010 14:29 |
Thank you so much for this very generous share. The Miracle sessions were always rummoured to have alot of material that was never released, and it is slowly seeing the light of day! |
| GinjaNinja 01.12.2010 17:10 |
Big thanks!! :D |
| brians wig 01.12.2010 19:06 |
Thanks very much to all the attendees who recorded the session. Okay. It's time to correct the date of the Barcelona track before anyone else copies and pastes Ale's mistake. The album was recorded in 1987, and released in 1988, therefore the date of this early version would 1987, would it not? |
| The Real Wizard 01.12.2010 21:30 |
Superb.. thanks, Ale ! |
| Joey2504 02.12.2010 01:02 |
wow...many thanks!!! |
| eYe 02.12.2010 02:30 |
Thank you very much! |
| Queenman!! 02.12.2010 03:17 |
Thank you very much |
| Masahiko 02.12.2010 06:20 |
Fantastic ! Thank you very much ! |
| Faroukqch 02.12.2010 06:36 |
Thank you very much!!!!!! awesome!!!! |
| LordOfAllDarkness 02.12.2010 06:56 |
Grazie Ale! Gran belle novità! |
| djcamper 02.12.2010 07:00 |
Amazing share! I'd prefer they finish "Affairs" instead of including "My Baby Does Me". |
| Farrokh The Great 02.12.2010 14:55 |
ThanK You VERY MUCH Ale, and the same for your GREAT Sites :-) once again: Keep Yourself Alive! |
| Tim June 02.12.2010 16:44 |
Thank you very much for this "new" stuff, very interesting. Nice also from David Richard to share this. |
| inu-liger 02.12.2010 17:20 |
There's something missing here. I can't quite put my finger on it, it's missing a certain melodic line that goes something like this: *dah dum dum de diddly dum dum "of Queen Productions"* Just kidding ;-) |
| Hutchence 02.12.2010 17:32 |
Thanks, buddy...! |
| Ramon Diaz 02.12.2010 17:52 |
FANTASTIC!!! EXCELLENT!!! THAK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFFAIRS IS GREAT! |
| QueenCuttings.com 02.12.2010 18:50 |
Dear All here you'll find the same demos played that night (already on YouTube) in .wav files link I won't upload nothing more coming from that night, I'm sorry. I can't indeed, you know I would do it. By the way, I remember that a "raw" mix of Innuendo was played at the beginning of David speech (a very very short version, not the entire song) and of course that version of Don't Try So Hard. Personally, I haven't this two recordings. But I really think they wil coming out on the net soon, in a way or an other, also if not by me Keep on rockin' |
| The Real Wizard 02.12.2010 19:03 |
Excellent, thanks for the lossless copies, Ale. What was different about the versions of Innuendo and Don't Try So Hard? |
| QueenCuttings.com 02.12.2010 19:09 |
Sir GH wrote: Excellent, thanks for the lossless copies, Ale. What was different about the versions of Innuendo and Don't Try So Hard? Honestly I can't remember. Sorry - I was on stage with David doing my best for all the things will go fine. I remember Don't Try So Hard was beautiful, you could listen to a very acute Freddie's voice. They will be out too, I'm pretty sure Rock on |
| The Real Wizard 02.12.2010 19:41 |
Cool, that must have been a great experience for you. |
| bluephoenix 03.12.2010 01:27 |
Affairs is such an amazing song! thank you so much for sharing! you've made my day. |
| daga 03.12.2010 01:59 |
I have question. If these demos are from 1989 so it was end of Miracle session or early Innuendo session. What do you think? Miracle session was January 1988 - February 1989. |
| GuitarMay 03.12.2010 02:05 |
Amaaaziinnnng demo songs !!!!!!! Thanks so much for sharing this rarities here, Ale ! ! ! ! :) |
| Nordico 03.12.2010 03:14 |
Grazie mille Ale!! Sei un grande!! Mi dispiace che non sono stato li... |
| Wilki Amieva 03.12.2010 04:13 |
Molte grazie, Ale! |
| Double-U 03.12.2010 04:46 |
That is fantastic. Thank you very much! regards W. |
| silver_salmon 03.12.2010 05:13 |
Wow Thank you very much!!!, Affairs is simply a demo but GREAT! it's a big surprise find this gem Regarding Barcelona.....for me is the same as album version, i mean, Freddie's voice, isn't it?. Cheers! |
| Jjeroen 03.12.2010 05:30 |
Thanks a lot for sharing these, guys! Wonderfull to hear something new! |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 03.12.2010 09:53 |
Wow, Ale, THANK YOU so very much :)))) Cheers, Ogre- |
| The Real Wizard 03.12.2010 09:53 |
daga wrote:
If these demos are from 1989 so it was end of Miracle session or early Innuendo session. What do you think? Miracle session was January 1988 - February 1989.The date of the Barcelona recording was wrong, so maybe these are wrong too.. Roger's snare sounds more like The Miracle than Innuendo. But of course it's not a final mix, so it's hard to say. But that big Innuendo snare sound is there on Robbery... Also, if this is from the Miracle sessions, it's technically possible that it's from early 1989 - but not likely. Chances are they were focusing on the ten tracks they had chosen for the record and the few B sides, not trying out new ideas when they're nearly done the album. So there's my thought for the day.. |
| pittrek 03.12.2010 12:03 |
Nice to have it lossless, thanks |
| onedunpark 03.12.2010 12:44 |
Thanks so much for your generosity. This is fantastic. Steven |
| Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 05.12.2010 07:56 |
Grazie mille Ale!! :) thank you very much for this wonderful share!! |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 05.12.2010 14:24 |
Does anybody else hear a few seconds of what was or was about to become "Was It All Worth It" in "Affairs", from 29seconds on? Cheers, Ogre- |
| The Real Wizard 05.12.2010 22:09 |
Good one, Arnaldo. The melodies are similar. I think it's pretty clear that these tracks are from The Miracle sessions. Freddie's voice developed a different quality as he got more ill. He probably learned how to use his voice within his illness, figuring out which vocal techniques were less painful than others. These tracks definitely sound more like 80s Freddie. |
| brians wig 06.12.2010 02:26 |
I'd be interested to find out if the tape that David Richards 'discovered' is a compact cassette copy or the original reel-reel tape? Obviously ihis begs the question, "Did QPL previously possess the masters in their archive, or IS this the master tape? If so, then how come David Richards had it?" |
| Vali 06.12.2010 10:36 |
Sir GH wrote: Good one, Arnaldo. The melodies are similar. I think it's pretty clear that these tracks are from The Miracle sessions. Freddie's voice developed a different quality as he got more ill. He probably learned how to use his voice within his illness, figuring out which vocal techniques were less painful than others. These tracks definitely sound more like 80s Freddie. /////////////////////////////////////// "Inu-liger" posted at the QOL Forum he had a short chat with David Richards via Facebook and the latter said these demos/jams are from the Innuendo-Montreux sessions. |
| Jam Monkey 06.12.2010 14:20 |
Thank you very much for sharing the wav files. As these demos were recorded in 1989 I think it is much more likely they come from the Innuendo sessions. The Miracle sessions wound up very early in 1989, and I don't think the band would be recording this raw demos by that point. Surely by that stage it would have been about finishing the tracks they had? Anyway whenever they are from I am glad we got to hear them. |
| inu-liger 06.12.2010 14:41 |
I guess people didn't read my post on the other topic...I talked to David Richards himself on Facebook the other day, and he said the jams were from the Innuendo Montreux sessions. And they WERE on a cassette tape (though I'm told of absolute AMAZING quality, and based on the fan recordings here, I have to agree!), not reel-to-reel. |
| The Real Wizard 06.12.2010 16:19 |
He got the date of the Freddie track wrong, so maybe he's wrong about these ones too. It doesn't really matter to me either way, as I have no stake in the outcome... but I'm just putting it out there. Glad we can hear the tracks, which is the bottom line. |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 06.12.2010 18:36 |
I don't know,but to my ears it does sound a lot like Miracle stuff, like Hang On In There, Fiddly Jam or even I Guess We're Falling Out. Years tend to merge two decades later. It all becomes a little blurry. Well, like Bob said, the bottom line is that we can hear those tracks now and they are great. I'm glad I got my Queen fix again :) Cheers, Ogre- |
| Ale Solan 06.12.2010 21:15 |
Grand Dame sounds quite like Robbery to me. |
| inu-liger 06.12.2010 23:00 |
My guess is that these jams were initiated in the early stages of the Innuendo sessions, which WOULD in that case place them around early/mid 1989. I think somewhere down the line after these jams, they decided to revamp the drum sound that they were going for at the time. So I can understand why a lot of people would be fooled into thinking these were Miracle session demos. |
| Claudio Galvanin 07.12.2010 13:56 |
is our Boss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great Ale!!!!!! |
| FriedChicken 07.12.2010 15:56 |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: I don't know,but to my ears it does sound a lot like Miracle stuff, like Hang On In There, Fiddly Jam or even I Guess We're Falling Out. Years tend to merge two decades later. It all becomes a little blurry. Well, like Bob said, the bottom line is that we can hear those tracks now and they are great. I'm glad I got my Queen fix again :) Cheers, Ogre- Is there a real border between sessions for The Miracle and sessions for Innuendo? I recall the recordings for Innuendo started in March 1989, so there shouldn't be a real difference in style from the late Miracle sessions, right? |
| queen_wwry1980 07.12.2010 17:23 |
... and this is Don't try so hard from the convention at Stazione Birra: link bye Daniele |
| *goodco* 07.12.2010 17:55 |
just writing to say thanks |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 07.12.2010 18:26 |
Thank you very much, Daniele!!! This gave me chills... |
| The Real Wizard 07.12.2010 20:49 |
Can someone please upload Don't Try So Hard elsewhere? I can't navigate through the existing link.. |
| Blackthorne 07.12.2010 23:00 |
link Enjoy it!!! |
| silver_salmon 08.12.2010 01:26 |
Hey Blackthorne let me be the first to say THANK YOU!!! GREAT VERSION!! |
| Vali 08.12.2010 04:53 |
many thanks Blackthorne ! |
| queen_wwry1980 08.12.2010 05:17 |
Sir GH wrote: Can someone please upload Don't Try So Hard elsewhere? I can't navigate through the existing link.. The link is ok. You have to click the link near "save file to your pc" bye Daniele |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 08.12.2010 08:21 |
Thank you very much once again, Daniele. This certainly deserves its own thread on the Announce Forum. How beautiful it is to hear Freddie doing this differently. Cheers, Ogre- |
| GinjaNinja 08.12.2010 10:13 |
Excellent! Thanks very much. :) |
| Blackthorne 08.12.2010 10:54 |
I forgot it!!! thanks Daniele for sharing this jewel!!! |
| Blackthorne 08.12.2010 11:50 |
here are some mirros for Don't Try So Hard link |
| oh-ja 08.12.2010 17:37 |
many thanx! grazie mille, ragazzi!! |
| GuitarMay 08.12.2010 20:13 |
Ciao Daniele !! Grazie per questa demo !!! ;) |
| Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 09.12.2010 04:07 |
Grazie mille Daniele!! |
| A Word In Your Ear 09.12.2010 07:05 |
Thank You Very Much for these!!!! |
| The Real Wizard 09.12.2010 10:25 |
Thanks for Don't Try So Hard. It's great to hear this amazing track in the making. I just can't believe how many people were busy chatting while this 20-year-old recording was being played for the first time. Are the people who attended this party really Queen fans? |
| Ale Solan 09.12.2010 11:12 |
Sir GH wrote: Are the people who attended this party really Queen fans? ---------------------------------------- there are two options: 1) they're not Queen fans 2) they are Queen fans and so fucking stupid. I tend to believe in the second option. |
| Vali 09.12.2010 13:53 |
I was really surprised of hearing so many people chatting, too; it's unbelieveable |
| PiotreQ 09.12.2010 14:37 |
Molte grazie :) |
| inu-liger 09.12.2010 14:59 |
Aren't Italian fans supposed to be among the "loudest" of fans? Quite sad that they carry that over to one-off events like this :-( |
| Ale Solan 09.12.2010 15:06 |
inu-liger wrote: Aren't Italian fans supposed to be among the "loudest" of fans? ---------------------------------------------- Not really true, despite the annoying chatter. |
| inu-liger 09.12.2010 17:02 |
Ahhh. |
| Jam Monkey 10.12.2010 00:53 |
Personally I am waiting for the convention recording when you hear someone shouting 'Excuse me, can everybody please shut up, I am trying to record this', and then all you can hear is the sound of them being thrown out. |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 10.12.2010 04:38 |
Come on guys, let's go back to the thankful mode, shall we? :) Cheers, Ogre- |
| vivaqueen 10.12.2010 05:40 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP |
| Ale Solan 10.12.2010 10:59 |
Jam Monkey wrote: Personally I am waiting for the convention recording when you hear someone shouting 'Excuse me, can everybody please shut up, I am trying to record this', and then all you can hear is the sound of them being thrown out. ----------------- Not too bright. Point is, not being a chicken shit, ask everyone to shut up just to listen carefully to the fucking song. |
| Ale_Pisa 10.12.2010 13:01 |
@ SIR GH Not only Queen fans... many people was there for dinner and for the disco after the queen night. Ale try to say shout up for Affairs, if someone want to hear it I have the complete recordings! :) |
| Ale Solan 10.12.2010 15:35 |
Ale_Pisa wrote: @ SIR GH Not only Queen fans... many people was there for dinner and for the disco after the queen night. Ale try to say shout up for Affairs, if someone want to hear it I have the complete recordings! :) ----------------------------------- that'd be very nice from you Ale, grazie mille ; ) |