Gregsynth 07.12.2009 02:31 |
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Gregsynth wrote: http://www.classicbands.com/KansasInterview.html Here's the concerning lines: Q - Tell me some of the groups Kansas opened for in the mid-70s. Do you recall? A - Well, yeah. We did Queen, Mott The Hoople. Hell, we did everybody. Q - How were you treated by these people? A - Real good. Queen and Mott The Hoople were fantastic. Real nice people, except Freddie, the lead singer for Queen. He was an ass hole. But, everybody else was great. All of the guys in Mott The Hoople were fantastic. They were just great to us. Q - What was the problem with Freddie Mercury? A - I don't know. He was a prima donna...diva if you will. That word was not meant to be a compliment, although a lot of people consider it to be. That's bullshit. That's having an ego having bigger than you are talented, bigger than you deserved. That's what being a diva is. That's what a prima donna is and that's what Freddie was. Something tells me that Steve was JEALOUS of Freddie! No, Steve didn't like Freddie or his behavior. It had nothing to do with being jealous. |
john bodega 07.12.2009 05:39 |
Not that this would be the website to get an unbiased view of him. He probably was an asshole at the time. Success tends to throw famous people's personalities out of whack for a while. On the other hand, some folk (like Ted Neeley) go through it and remain salt-of-the-earth. |
GratefulFan 07.12.2009 10:06 |
I think we're all a bunch of things. Freddie is certainly on record as being difficult and irritating at times, and it's hard to undo initial impressions. If he rubbed Walsh the wrong way at the beginning it would have coloured every interaction that followed. So I'm definintely willing to accept that in his experience, Freddie was an asshole. |
john bodega 07.12.2009 10:26 |
Well precisely, it all comes down to experience. If you never see someone do a good deed, it's slightly tougher to believe they are capable of one... |
dragon-fly 07.12.2009 10:49 |
Freddie was Freddie. Take it or leave it. |
Serry... 07.12.2009 10:59 |
Big woman made an asshole out of him |
Benn Kempster 07.12.2009 11:58 |
Sounds like a fairly decent appraisal of what he thought of him to me. Can't argue with it. |
GratefulFan 07.12.2009 12:52 |
From another angle, do people appreciate the honesty and forthrightness of this interview relating to music and touring as an act of financial necessity? Perhaps unreasonably, I do expect bands/musicians to keep those kinds of sentiments to themselves. |
vadenuez 07.12.2009 14:14 |
Liking or disliking someone is a right everybody has. We are biased because we're Queen fans but in Walsh's behalf, he knew Freddie, we didn't. |
Gregsynth 07.12.2009 15:40 |
Freddie isn't an asshole-Steve Walsh is, and I can back that up: I was listening to some of Steve's solo stuff on Youtube and alot of people were saying "I met him in real life, he's a real asshole." One guy is in a Kansas cover band, and he said that Steve treated him and Kansas' fans like shit. He also said that the rest of band are a great group of guys and EVEN THEY want to know why he acts like that. My guess is that Steve was already getting an ego back when he started touring with Kansas and when Freddie first saw him, he probably called him out, citing his attitude and then some argument flared up. I'm thinking Steve thinks this: "Freddie's dead, so I can just talk about anything." I have NEVER heard anything bad said about Freddie (except for Steve's interview). Freddie comes across as a decent, kind, sincere, and has a great sense of humor in both his interviews, and his performances. Take a look at one interview from 1985: The interviewer said quote: "Freddie is very pleasant when he walks in." If Freddie DID have an ego/acted like a prima donna in his early career, he probably got over it real quick. |
Bo Rhap 07.12.2009 18:05 |
Stevie who |
Gregsynth 07.12.2009 21:05 |
Bo Rhap wrote: Stevie who Steve Walsh: Lead Singer and keyboardist for the American progressive rock band, kansas. |
ilikefreddyguy 07.12.2009 22:37 |
That was Freddie Mercury, a big monstrous asshole! A diva who sucked up all the attention. Ratty himself said his first impression of Freddie was "what a prat." That, was FREDDIE MERCURY, the stage persona, not Freddie Mercury the sweet, introverted character offstage. Plus, my uncle knew Stevie, said he was a major prick who would get pissed off if the conversation wasn't about him. And as far as Freddie's ego being bigger than his talent, just wait until Steve there kicks the bucket and see how many stars attend HIS Tribute concert, haha, or how many statues world-wide he gets. |
ilikefreddyguy 07.12.2009 22:38 |
Serry... wrote: Big woman made an asshole out of him And I just love you for that. |
Gregsynth 08.12.2009 00:49 |
BlazeGoldmine wrote: That was Freddie Mercury, a big monstrous asshole! A diva who sucked up all the attention. Ratty himself said his first impression of Freddie was "what a prat." That, was FREDDIE MERCURY, the stage persona, not Freddie Mercury the sweet, introverted character offstage. Plus, my uncle knew Stevie, said he was a major prick who would get pissed off if the conversation wasn't about him. And as far as Freddie's ego being bigger than his talent, just wait until Steve there kicks the bucket and see how many stars attend HIS Tribute concert, haha, or how many statues world-wide he gets.You got it spot on: There's two Freddie's--the flamboyant, charismatic frontman on stage, and the quiet, shy guy off-stage.And the last sentence made me laugh! |
fmarsong 08.12.2009 01:06 |
steve who?....he's just envious of Freddie let him go to hell |
Gregsynth 08.12.2009 01:58 |
fmarsong wrote: steve who?....he's just envious of Freddie let him go to hellThat's what I think. |
Bo Rhap 08.12.2009 03:27 |
Gregsynth wrote:Bo Rhap wrote: Stevie whoSteve Walsh: Lead Singer and keyboardist for the American progressive rock band, kansas. I know.Its a sarcastic comment |
philip storey 08.12.2009 05:10 |
I don't think i have ever heard a song by Kansas,are they any good ? I imagine they would be in the Boston,Journey style ? |
maxpower 08.12.2009 05:40 |
Someone doesn't like Freddie Mercury! it is allowed you know |
ILoveQueen20 08.12.2009 06:13 |
Wait when was this interveiw done? I could'nt care less if he dislikes Freddie thats his problem.I know they asked, but why bother to take the time in the interveiw to talk about someone you dislike...thats rather sad & it makes steve look like an ass for bitching...well IMO. |
oligneisti 08.12.2009 07:04 |
I only know Dust in the Wind by Kansas and I do like that song. I am also pretty sure that Freddie could have rubbed almost anyone the wrong way with his behaviour. Most of us do get it though. It was a persona, not the person. |
Gregsynth 08.12.2009 10:11 |
The interview was done in either 2002 or 2003: Steve was promoting Kansas' DVD "Device, Voice, Drum." No, you don't have to like Freddie, but to start bickering about alledged prima donna behavior that happen almost 30 years back just makes you look bitter, and like an asshole. Freddie never said anything "bad" about fellow musicians in his interviews. You can also tell Steve's statement of "Freddie was a Prima Donna" barely holds water, because he never gave an example! He said "Freddie was an asshole," then the interviewer asked: "What was the problem?" Steve then says, "I don't know, he was a diva, a prima donna." His arguments aren't supported! |
Amazon 08.12.2009 10:16 |
He can think whatever he wants but to say 'That's having an ego having bigger than you are talented, bigger than you deserved' is absurd since Freddie was a GENIUS! I don't recall many people saying the same thing about him. Anyway, nobody is perfect, certainly not Freddie, but for some no-name musician (Kansas?) to try to lessen Freddie's talent is IMO crossing the line. |
Gregsynth 08.12.2009 10:22 |
Amazon wrote: He can think whatever he wants but to say 'That's having an ego having bigger than you are talented, bigger than you deserved' is absurd since Freddie was a GENIUS! I don't recall many people saying the same thing about him. Anyway, nobody is perfect, certainly not Freddie, but for some no-name musician (Kansas?) to try to lessen Freddie's talent is IMO crossing the line. Yeah, it is absurd! In the same interview, Steve says he doesn't like touring anymore, but has "to make money." Compare that to Freddie's quotes: "I'm not the band leader, I'm the lead singer." "Queen's made up of 4 equal people." Freddie doesn't even sound remotely CLOSE to being an asshole, or egotisical! |
Wiley 08.12.2009 10:54 |
Well, I guess in a Kansas forum someone can select a few "positive thoughts", words or good deeds this guy made and compare him to a selected few of Freddie's less than appropriate moments. Freddie was a snob. Deal with it. He did have class, he was a superstar, he was -also- very talented and (in our eyes) entitled to behave as a diva or whatever. We're fans. We tend to see these situations with our "Queen goggles" on. He did meet Freddie and was on the road with him. Maybe their ego's crashed, maybe something about this guy pissed Freddie off and he treated him like shit. We don't know. It appears some people think that if they had met Freddie on the street he would have invited them over to his place and make tea. BTW, "Carry on wayward song" is another pretty cool song by Kansas. I only know it because it's on Rockband 2 but it's still great. Nobody dare bash "Dust in the wind". It's one of the best songs ever. |
Gregsynth 08.12.2009 11:51 |
Wiley wrote: Well, I guess in a Kansas forum someone can select a few "positive thoughts", words or good deeds this guy made and compare him to a selected few of Freddie's less than appropriate moments. Freddie was a snob. Deal with it. He did have class, he was a superstar, he was -also- very talented and (in our eyes) entitled to behave as a diva or whatever. We're fans. We tend to see these situations with our "Queen goggles" on. He did meet Freddie and was on the road with him. Maybe their ego's crashed, maybe something about this guy pissed Freddie off and he treated him like shit. We don't know. It appears some people think that if they had met Freddie on the street he would have invited them over to his place and make tea. BTW, "Carry on wayward song" is another pretty cool song by Kansas. I only know it because it's on Rockband 2 but it's still great. Nobody dare bash "Dust in the wind". It's one of the best songs ever. "Freddie was a snob. Deal with it." "He did have class." That's a huge contradiction. And if Steve DID piss somebody off, I'm glad Freddie STOOD UP to him. |
Gregsynth 08.12.2009 11:57 |
Here's a definition of "snob." 1. Somebody who looks down on others: an admirer and cultivator of people with high social status who disdains those considered inferior (doesn't sound like Freddie to me). 2. Somebody who feels superior: somebody who disdains people considered to have inferior knowledge or tastes (DEFINITLY not Freddie). Freddie doesn't really seem snobbish to me. |
GratefulFan 08.12.2009 13:24 |
It's silly and unnecessarily naive to think that Freddie never acted like a jerk. It was not the main pillar of his personality for certain, because the full record indicates that he was more than anything else a thoughtful, fun and generous man. But there is more than enough anecdotal information about occasional behaviour that could certainly be perceived as prima donna like. It means nothing in the big picture, and it's hardly worth sticking one's head in the sand over. |
Rubbersuit 08.12.2009 14:04 |
He's allowed to think Fred's an asshole, maybe he was an asshole to him. On the other hand, to carry this grudge for 20 years (and 10 years after Fred's death) seems kinda lame. |
Gregsynth 08.12.2009 14:18 |
GratefulFan wrote: It's silly and unnecessarily naive to think that Freddie never acted like a jerk. It was not the main pillar of his personality for certain, because the full record indicates that he was more than anything else a thoughtful, fun and generous man. But there is more than enough anecdotal information about occasional behaviour that could certainly be perceived as prima donna like. It means nothing in the big picture, and it's hardly worth sticking one's head in the sand over. Oh, and I never said he never acted like a jerk. I'm just saying what you wrote, Freddie's main personality is a kind, humble guy. Yes, even Freddie had his moments of being an asshole/prima donna, but that's normal. Steve Walsh thinks that's what Freddie is IN GENERAL. I think Freddie may have been a bit of a prima donna in the beginning (just think about it--at the time, he was the LEAD SINGER in a rising band with a couple of hits under his belt), but he got himself out of the "lead singer disease" situation before he started alienating his peers. |
Gregsynth 08.12.2009 14:23 |
Rubbersuit wrote: He's allowed to think Fred's an asshole, maybe he was an asshole to him. On the other hand, to carry this grudge for 20 years (and 10 years after Fred's death) seems kinda lame. Steve is allowed to have his opinions on other people--but Steve is KNOWN (see Youtube videos, and SEVERAL posters on Kansas/Steve Walsh videos) to have an ego, and to be an asshole to his peers (including his BANDMATES)! Freddie isn't known for that kind of crap. Maybe Freddie called him out? Maybe Freddie WAS acting like a jerk to Steve? No one knows (except for Steve and maybe the other members of Queen). |
ilikefreddyguy 08.12.2009 14:33 |
Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that a band called Kansas (named after the state known MOSTLY for it's constant Tornadoes) has a hit called "Dust in the Wind?" And Dust In The Wind is a bit folksy, y'know? Like a Simon and Garfunkel song. "Carry On My Wayward Son" is more of a rock'n'roll song that most Queen fans would probably like, and it's not a half-bad song, to it's right. Then again, I bought "The Best of Kansas" on vinyl, and I don't know ANY of the other tracks (one is called "Play The Game Tonight" ironically.) And in the "talent" arena, neither "Dust in the Wind" NOR "Carry On My Wayward Son" were even WRITTEN by Steve Walsh, infact according to this record Steve only CO-WROTE one of their "best" songs. So I think Stevie there has NO right to say who has an ego over talent, yeah?. |
Gregsynth 08.12.2009 14:43 |
BlazeGoldmine wrote: Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that a band called Kansas (named after the state known MOSTLY for it's constant Tornadoes) has a hit called "Dust in the Wind?" And Dust In The Wind is a bit folksy, y'know? Like a Simon and Garfunkel song. "Carry On My Wayward Son" is more of a rock'n'roll song that most Queen fans would probably like, and it's not a half-bad song, to it's right. Then again, I bought "The Best of Kansas" on vinyl, and I don't know ANY of the other tracks (one is called "Play The Game Tonight" ironically.) And in the "talent" arena, neither "Dust in the Wind" NOR "Carry On My Wayward Son" were even WRITTEN by Steve Walsh, infact according to this record Steve only CO-WROTE one of their "best" songs. So I think Stevie there has NO right to say who has an ego over talent, yeah?. Oh, you NAILED it! It was KENNY LIVGREN who wrote almost all the classic Kansas songs! |
GratefulFan 08.12.2009 16:17 |
It's likely there are hundreds of people out there beyond Steve Walsh whose ENTIRE experience of Mercury was one of an unpleasant, unlikeable twit. Why is this so hard to accept? Peter Freestone said "Although he could be a tyrant, a demanding unreasonable prima donna, underneath the facade he had one of the softest, kindest hearts imaginable." Freestone had sustained and intimate access to him for years - plenty of time to come to know the complete man, but many others of course would not. Who can forget the time he screamed for Freestone to come down several floors to Barbara Valentin's car at the curb so Freestone could push the lock button on the car door for him because he didn't know how and couldn't be bothered finding out? Actual story, told by Valentin and confirmed by Freestone. He was fully capable of self indulgence at the expense of others, and in some cases that's all people are going to know or remember. |
The Real Wizard 08.12.2009 18:06 |
philip storey wrote: I don't think i have ever heard a song by Kansas,are they any good ? I imagine they would be in the Boston,Journey style ? Kansas is best described as a 70s prog rock band with a couple dabbles in mainstream pop as mentioned above. Their first few records are superb. |
Wiley 08.12.2009 18:51 |
GratefulFan wrote: It's likely there are hundreds of people out there beyond Steve Walsh whose ENTIRE experience of Mercury was one of an unpleasant, unlikeable twit. Why is this so hard to accept? Peter Freestone said "Although he could be a tyrant, a demanding unreasonable prima donna, underneath the facade he had one of the softest, kindest hearts imaginable." Freestone had sustained and intimate access to him for years - plenty of time to come to know the complete man, but many others of course would not. Who can forget the time he screamed for Freestone to come down several floors to Barbara Valentin's car at the curb so Freestone could push the lock button on the car door for him because he didn't know how and couldn't be bothered finding out? Actual story, told by Valentin and confirmed by Freestone. He was fully capable of self indulgence at the expense of others, and in some cases that's all people are going to know or remember. Good point! In my earlier post I didn't really mean that Freddie was a snob in the strictest sense of the word but he could certainly be perceived as one, or even as an asshole, in a given situation. His image was built around dressing nicely, toasting with champagne with the audience and spending a million pounds in a shopping trip to Japan. Also, are we supposed to think that Freddie got rid of his extroverted stage persona right after he got out of the stage? Wouldn't you feel almost God-like for perhaps 15 minutes after stealing a show and having 50,000 people in the palm of your hands? Well, maybe everyone else would feel happier if we found out that Freddie was nasty and rude to this Kansas guy because he was a homophobe/racist/child molestor/just an asshole and "he deserved it"? Let's ask Bono what he thinks about Freddie, considering he pinned him against the wall after his performance in Live Aid, hehe :) |
Crazy LittleThing 08.12.2009 22:30 |
Dust. Wind. Dude. |
pittrek 09.12.2009 04:40 |
I think Freddie was an asshole on stage, because it was a part of the show. But if he was an asshole in privacy, I don't believe the band would stay together for 20 years |
Angeline 09.12.2009 07:10 |
Gregsynth wrote:GratefulFan wrote: It's silly and unnecessarily naive to think that Freddie never acted like a jerk. It was not the main pillar of his personality for certain, because the full record indicates that he was more than anything else a thoughtful, fun and generous man. But there is more than enough anecdotal information about occasional behaviour that could certainly be perceived as prima donna like. It means nothing in the big picture, and it's hardly worth sticking one's head in the sand over.Oh, and I never said he never acted like a jerk. I'm just saying what you wrote, Freddie's main personality is a kind, humble guy. Yes, even Freddie had his moments of being an asshole/prima donna, but that's normal. Steve Walsh thinks that's what Freddie is IN GENERAL. I think Freddie may have been a bit of a prima donna in the beginning (just think about it--at the time, he was the LEAD SINGER in a rising band with a couple of hits under his belt), but he got himself out of the "lead singer disease" situation before he started alienating his peers. Gregsynth - In my experience of being a fan and literally reading almost every interview/biography that is available, I don't think even Freddie's close friends would describe him as solely a 'kind, humble guy'. Freddie was a bit of genius, supremely talented, creative and these things tend to make people difficult. I bet Freddie COULD be a snob, could rant and rave and be an arsehole. I tend to think that that is outward behaviour related to the stress and everything of being a star and a perfectionist and a human being. I kind of love him for that. It's part and parcel. If Freddie had been a ONLY a sweet, kind deferential guy, none of us would have any interest in him, as we'd never have heard of him. And, let's face, Freddie wouldn't have given a flying fuck what Steve Walsh said in an interview about him when he was alive and now that's he's dead ... remember the quote? |
Angeline 09.12.2009 07:12 |
Sorry above post mainly superfluous after reading Wiley and Grateful fan's excellent contributions. |
Gregsynth 09.12.2009 12:03 |
Angeline wrote:Agree, but what I was trying to get at, was that Freddie WAS a nice and humble guy. Yes, I believe you, (and Freddie's friends), that Freddie at times could be unreasonable and a bit of a prima donna. But unlike Steve Walsh, he never treated his fans like shit, or alienate his band mates. Sure, Freddie had an ego (I would too, if I was the greatest rock singer with multiple hit songs to my name), but for the most part, he kept it under control enough, so that he didn't across in general, as an asshole.Gregsynth wrote:Gregsynth - In my experience of being a fan and literally reading almost every interview/biography that is available, I don't think even Freddie's close friends would describe him as solely a 'kind, humble guy'. Freddie was a bit of genius, supremely talented, creative and these things tend to make people difficult. I bet Freddie COULD be a snob, could rant and rave and be an arsehole. I tend to think that that is outward behaviour related to the stress and everything of being a star and a perfectionist and a human being. I kind of love him for that. It's part and parcel. If Freddie had been a ONLY a sweet, kind deferential guy, none of us would have any interest in him, as we'd never have heard of him. And, let's face, Freddie wouldn't have given a flying fuck what Steve Walsh said in an interview about him when he was alive and now that's he's dead ... remember the quote?GratefulFan wrote: It's silly and unnecessarily naive to think that Freddie never acted like a jerk. It was not the main pillar of his personality for certain, because the full record indicates that he was more than anything else a thoughtful, fun and generous man. But there is more than enough anecdotal information about occasional behaviour that could certainly be perceived as prima donna like. It means nothing in the big picture, and it's hardly worth sticking one's head in the sand over.Oh, and I never said he never acted like a jerk. I'm just saying what you wrote, Freddie's main personality is a kind, humble guy. Yes, even Freddie had his moments of being an asshole/prima donna, but that's normal. Steve Walsh thinks that's what Freddie is IN GENERAL. I think Freddie may have been a bit of a prima donna in the beginning (just think about it--at the time, he was the LEAD SINGER in a rising band with a couple of hits under his belt), but he got himself out of the "lead singer disease" situation before he started alienating his peers. |
Angeline 09.12.2009 13:16 |
Agreed. |
12yrslouetta 09.12.2009 14:11 |
Erm, but we dont and didnt know freddie mercury. Steve walsh spent time with him during touring. So he knew him 30m times better than we all did and he has no real reason to lie. In fact it would make a better story if he said that freddie was a great guy, a genius and he loved kansas music. Anyway who cares. Im sure if someone interviewed brian mays ex wife she may not say the nicest things about brian may either. |
Amazon 09.12.2009 15:09 |
GratefulFan wrote: It's likely there are hundreds of people out there beyond Steve Walsh whose ENTIRE experience of Mercury was one of an unpleasant, unlikeable twit. Why is this so hard to accept? Peter Freestone said "Although he could be a tyrant, a demanding unreasonable prima donna, underneath the facade he had one of the softest, kindest hearts imaginable." Freestone had sustained and intimate access to him for years - plenty of time to come to know the complete man, but many others of course would not. Who can forget the time he screamed for Freestone to come down several floors to Barbara Valentin's car at the curb so Freestone could push the lock button on the car door for him because he didn't know how and couldn't be bothered finding out? Actual story, told by Valentin and confirmed by Freestone. He was fully capable of self indulgence at the expense of others, and in some cases that's all people are going to know or remember. To be honest, I've always liked that story. I think it's sweet, especially since Freddie sometime acted like a child. That doesn't make him an arsehole though. But even if he did act like an arsehole sometime, he wouldn't have had as many close friends and lovers (and Queen wouldn't have been together for 20 years) if he was primarily an arsehole. |
Amazon 09.12.2009 15:10 |
Angeline wrote 'Freddie was a bit of genius'; A bit? He wasn't a bit of a genius. He was a complete and total genius!!! |
Gregsynth 09.12.2009 15:25 |
12yrslouetta wrote: Erm, but we dont and didnt know freddie mercury. Steve walsh spent time with him during touring. So he knew him 30m times better than we all did and he has no real reason to lie. In fact it would make a better story if he said that freddie was a great guy, a genius and he loved kansas music. Anyway who cares. Im sure if someone interviewed brian mays ex wife she may not say the nicest things about brian may either. The members of Queen knew him better. I'd take their word, over Walsh's. |
Gregsynth 09.12.2009 15:32 |
Plus, Steve only was with him during 1974/5. One bad encounter doesn't equal "asshole." |
tcc 09.12.2009 19:45 |
Freddie admitted that he was an "asshole". He sang it in the Fat Bottom Girls song in the 1982 Milton Keynes concert :-) |
Gregsynth 09.12.2009 20:57 |
tcc wrote: Freddie admitted that he was an "asshole". He sang it in the Fat Bottom Girls song in the 1982 Milton Keynes concert :-)Really? WOW! I didn't know that! I guess my research went out the window! :) |
mike hunt 10.12.2009 02:14 |
He was probably an asshole at times like most of us are. A prima donna and all that good stuff, but I don't remember him putting down a fellow musician in an interview either. One that's dead. In interviews he sounded the most humble of the bunch, but in the early days he was obviously a diva. |
Gregsynth 10.12.2009 02:42 |
mike hunt wrote: He was probably an asshole at times like most of us are. A prima donna and all that good stuff, but I don't remember him putting down a fellow musician in an interview either. One that's dead. In interviews he sounded the most humble of the bunch, but in the early days he was obviously a diva.That sums up the situation the best. |
Wiley 10.12.2009 13:14 |
I don't think Freddie was an asshole. Not nearly half as much as this Kansas guy seems to be, at least. In my previous posts I was thinking about fans who think Freddie was like a Mother Theresa-Ghandi hybrid that couldn't do wrong. He screwed around because "he was looking for love", he built his stage persona to protect his real self, his inner child or something. These people sometimes seem to forget he was a Rockstar. He lived a life of excess, partying on the road with no limits or boundaries; with little people bringing cocaine on silver trays and nude female mud wrestlers. Freddie was awesome as musician and performer; he was kind to strangers and generous to his close friends and many people who knew him and LOVED him can vouch for that. In their eyes, the good always outweighted the bad. Then along comes this guy who met him 30 years ago, got a bad impression and didn't care for him. Why would he see Freddie like we do? Saying this in an interview 30 years later is a bit tasteless and he does sound bitter, but that's his opinion and he's entitled to it, as we are entitled to disagree with him. |
Gregsynth 10.12.2009 15:18 |
Wiley wrote: I don't think Freddie was an asshole. Not nearly half as much as this Kansas guy seems to be, at least. In my previous posts I was thinking about fans who think Freddie was like a Mother Theresa-Ghandi hybrid that couldn't do wrong. He screwed around because "he was looking for love", he built his stage persona to protect his real self, his inner child or something. These people sometimes seem to forget he was a Rockstar. He lived a life of excess, partying on the road with no limits or boundaries; with little people bringing cocaine on silver trays and nude female mud wrestlers. Freddie was awesome as musician and performer; he was kind to strangers and generous to his close friends and many people who knew him and LOVED him can vouch for that. In their eyes, the good always outweighted the bad. Then along comes this guy who met him 30 years ago, got a bad impression and didn't care for him. Why would he see Freddie like we do? Saying this in an interview 30 years later is a bit tasteless and he does sound bitter, but that's his opinion and he's entitled to it, as we are entitled to disagree with him.100% true. Mack (their producer in the 80s) also said nice things about him. He said quote: "Freddie wasn't one to broadcast his sex life. He was quite a private person, but at the same time he was open about it here... "Unlike some gays, Freddie didn't put the whole gay thing right into your face. When there were other people around, he was very careful about their feellings. I really respected him for that. For instance, when he was in restaurants with a lot of other people who weren't gay, he was never outrageous. He was always very conscious about not offending anyone." |
andreas_mercury 10.12.2009 23:38 |
no-talent loser from Kansas calls out freddie mercury, not a perfect man by this measure but you know he's one of the greats .......... what more do i need to know than to this guy is a cock and not worth listening to (his interviews OR his shit music) |
andreas_mercury 11.12.2009 00:31 |
cant wait for myself to see the attendence numbers for the Steve Walsh Tribute Concert, now showing even on your public access station .... that is if the DIY knitting shows can't make it.... |
philip storey 11.12.2009 11:32 |
I thought that Steve Walsh played for Leicester City FC,in in the 1990's. |
Levon Thyme 11.12.2009 11:52 |
Someone mentioned "Play The Game Tonight". Didn't Freddie and Roger actually provide somew backing vocals on that song for Kansas? Shame what Walsh said, I think Kansas is a good band. |
lalaalalaa 11.12.2009 12:46 |
andreas_mercury wrote: no-talent loser from Kansas calls out freddie mercury, not a perfect man by this measure but you know he's one of the greats ..........what more do i need to know than to this guy is a cock and not worth listening to (his interviews OR his shit music) Just shut up. Kansas is a great band and Walsh is a great musician. Don't give your opinion in such a rude way. |
GratefulFan 11.12.2009 15:46 |
Levon Thyme wrote: Someone mentioned "Play The Game Tonight". Didn't Freddie and Roger actually provide somew backing vocals on that song for Kansas? Shame what Walsh said, I think Kansas is a good band. Just Roger as far as I know. Here is YouTube version, with Steve Walsh on lead vocals and Roger on backup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7PscgBUurM&feature=related |
The Real Wizard 11.12.2009 17:10 |
andreas_mercury wrote: what more do i need to know than to this guy is a cock and not worth listening to (his interviews OR his shit music) So you're judging his entire musical output based on a single quote about his personal experience with another musician? Great song, btw... thanks GratefulFan for posting the clip. But I would have never have known Roger was on it if someone hadn't pointed it out. |
GratefulFan 11.12.2009 18:00 |
Actually I'm now wondering if that was Walsh on lead in that clip, or John Elefante. I forget how and when that all happened... |
Gregsynth 11.12.2009 19:32 |
GratefulFan wrote: Actually I'm now wondering if that was Walsh on lead in that clip, or John Elefante. I forget how and when that all happened...It was Elefante, Walsh quit the band the previous year. |
GratefulFan 12.12.2009 01:12 |
Yeah, as you said, definitely Elefante. I found some live video from that tour, and it was not Walsh. Anyway, here is live Walsh version from 2002. Probably around the time of that interview. Steinhardt still has that mad red hair. Love it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AMPLKfKS3I |
andreas_mercury 12.12.2009 02:37 |
Sir GH wrote: So you're judging his entire musical output based on a single quote about his personal experience with another musician?what!!!! no, i am judging his music on his music, which happens to me to be very middle road and boring ..... the fact that he's even lacks human decency and trash talks in the press is completely separate from that but since thats what this thread is about I could mention. |
andreas_mercury 12.12.2009 02:37 |
Bo Rhap wrote: Stevie who |
GratefulFan 12.12.2009 14:35 |
andreas_mercury wrote: what!!!! no, i am judging his music on his music, which happens to me to be very middle road and boring ..... the fact that he's even lacks human decency and trash talks in the press is completely separate from that but since thats what this thread is about I could mention. Kansas' best stuff was far from middle of the road and far from boring. Walsh himself was/is a notable classic/prog rock voice and skilled keyboardist with a highly physical playing style. As a front man, I'll agree - middle of the pack. He doesn't have any real connection with an audience and there is little force of personality, unlike the late great Freddie Mercury. He's tried to make up for it with a lot of jumping around and I'm-too-sexy-for-my-shirt stage outfits, but it doesn't always work. |
Gregsynth 12.12.2009 22:32 |
GratefulFan wrote:100% on the money.andreas_mercury wrote: what!!!! no, i am judging his music on his music, which happens to me to be very middle road and boring ..... the fact that he's even lacks human decency and trash talks in the press is completely separate from that but since thats what this thread is about I could mention.Kansas' best stuff was far from middle of the road and far from boring. Walsh himself was/is a notable classic/prog rock voice and skilled keyboardist with a highly physical playing style. As a front man, I'll agree - middle of the pack. He doesn't have any real connection with an audience and there is little force of personality, unlike the late great Freddie Mercury. He's tried to make up for it with a lot of jumping around and I'm-too-sexy-for-my-shirt stage outfits, but it doesn't always work. |
Gregsynth 15.12.2009 17:09 |
Also, Steve whined and cried about the direction of the band (when Kenny Livgren, and Dave Hope became Christian) and he left the band. Compare that to Freddie ENCOURAGING members to write in any style! LOL |
Winter Land Man 16.12.2009 10:50 |
Kansas sucks. I'd rather have a Britney Spears album than a Kansas album. "Dust In The Wind" is a terrible song, and the only one I can even remember by Kansas. Totally pitiful. |
The Real Wizard 16.12.2009 11:11 |
Mr. Britt wrote: Kansas sucks. I'd rather have a Britney Spears album than a Kansas album. "Dust In The Wind" is a terrible song, and the only one I can even remember by Kansas. Totally pitiful. Why would you rather have an entire Britney Spears album over an entire Kansas album if you admit to never hearing an entire Kansas album? |
lalaalalaa 16.12.2009 12:41 |
Listen to Icarus (Borne On Wings of Steel) link |
ilikefreddyguy 16.12.2009 16:01 |
Oh, Children- this one doesn't end does it? First of all, to be fair, I don't care for Kansas. Yes, I may have a Queen bias on that one, but either way I listened to Kansas before I heard about this little tiff in the press. Even then I knew Kansas as one thing- a band with two hits, out of which I only cared for COMWS, Again, Dust In The Wind just rang in my ear as kind of a rock song that was just really too folksy, and let me tell you somkething- I LOVE FOLK MUSIC. It's about as Rock and Roll as "Scarborough Fair" a tune which I still hold highly above Kansas's hits. Yes, though, now that I've heard this from his mouth it does sort of ruin the Kansas experience for me. It's not like Freddie calling Bowie an asshole for taking his name off of "Cool Cat." Steve was being extremely low, holding a deep grudge for Fred for at about 30 years of something, even after he did die. Despite whether or not he was an asshole (Which I'm assuming, being Freddie, he was being an asshole) I mean they're rockers for God sake, they should get over the smalls bumps. It does make me lose interest in that band, greatly. I think what bugs me the most isn't that he called Freddie an asshole. It was he said he had more of an ego than he had talent. |
Gregsynth 16.12.2009 16:07 |
BlazeGoldmine wrote: Oh, Children- this one doesn't end does it? First of all, to be fair, I don't care for Kansas. Yes, I may have a Queen bias on that one, but either way I listened to Kansas before I heard about this little tiff in the press. Even then I knew Kansas as one thing- a band with two hits, out of which I only cared for COMWS, Again, Dust In The Wind just rang in my ear as kind of a rock song that was just really too folksy, and let me tell you somkething- I LOVE FOLK MUSIC. It's about as Rock and Roll as "Scarborough Fair" a tune which I still hold highly above Kansas's hits. Yes, though, now that I've heard this from his mouth it does sort of ruin the Kansas experience for me. It's not like Freddie calling Bowie an asshole for taking his name off of "Cool Cat." Steve was being extremely low, holding a deep grudge for Fred for at about 30 years of something, even after he did die. Despite whether or not he was an asshole (Which I'm assuming, being Freddie, he was being an asshole) I mean they're rockers for God sake, they should get over the smalls bumps. It does make me lose interest in that band, greatly. I think what bugs me the most isn't that he called Freddie an asshole. It was he said he had more of an ego than he had talent. Yeah, Steve's last couple sentences were kinda uncalled for. |
Wiley 17.12.2009 17:44 |
Sir GH wrote:Mr. Britt wrote: Kansas sucks. I'd rather have a Britney Spears album than a Kansas album. "Dust In The Wind" is a terrible song, and the only one I can even remember by Kansas. Totally pitiful.Why would you rather have an entire Britney Spears album over an entire Kansas album if you admit to never hearing an entire Kansas album? Maybe he LOVES Britney Spears' music :) |
Gregsynth 17.12.2009 21:45 |
LOL |
Angeline 18.12.2009 07:01 |
Wiley wrote:Sir GH wrote:Maybe he LOVES Britney Spears' music :)Mr. Britt wrote: Kansas sucks. I'd rather have a Britney Spears album than a Kansas album. "Dust In The Wind" is a terrible song, and the only one I can even remember by Kansas. Totally pitiful.Why would you rather have an entire Britney Spears album over an entire Kansas album if you admit to never hearing an entire Kansas album? I bet his favourite is 'Not a girl, not yet a woman'. |
Amazon 18.12.2009 12:38 |
BlazeGoldmine wrote: I think what bugs me the most isn't that he called Freddie an asshole. It was he said he had more of an ego than he had talent. Exactly! As I said earlier on, he has no right to lessen Freddie's talent. Freddie was a genius, something that Walsh certainly is not, and to try to suggest that his ego was bigger than his talent is absurd, offensive and just shows sour grapes. Walsh doesn't have to like the guy (although bringing it up years after Freddie's death is pretty low), but to attack Freddie's talent? No, that just won't do. |
Gregsynth 21.12.2009 17:32 |
Amazon wrote:Freddie = TalentBlazeGoldmine wrote: I think what bugs me the most isn't that he called Freddie an asshole. It was he said he had more of an ego than he had talent.Exactly! As I said earlier on, he has no right to lessen Freddie's talent. Freddie was a genius, something that Walsh certainly is not, and to try to suggest that his ego was bigger than his talent is absurd, offensive and just shows sour grapes. Walsh doesn't have to like the guy (although bringing it up years after Freddie's death is pretty low), but to attack Freddie's talent? No, that just won't do. |
GratefulFan 21.12.2009 18:28 |
It's always possible to have an ego bigger than one's talent. What level of talent justifies rude or insensitive behaviour towards others? If that's what Steve Walsh perceived, then it's a valid statement for him. It's worth remembering the tour Kansa was on was only three Queen albums in. Was Freddie really already an unassailable genius in early 1975? I think some pretty wonderful and formative things happend beyond that time that wrote much of the Mercury legend we know today. Walsh may be a bland twit of sorts, but it's never going to be outrageous that he had a poor opinion of Freddie or anybody else. |
Gregsynth 27.12.2009 02:57 |
GratefulFan wrote: It's always possible to have an ego bigger than one's talent. What level of talent justifies rude or insensitive behaviour towards others? If that's what Steve Walsh perceived, then it's a valid statement for him. It's worth remembering the tour Kansa was on was only three Queen albums in. Was Freddie really already an unassailable genius in early 1975? I think some pretty wonderful and formative things happend beyond that time that wrote much of the Mercury legend we know today. Walsh may be a bland twit of sorts, but it's never going to be outrageous that he had a poor opinion of Freddie or anybody else.It is possible to have a bigger ego than your talent, but not Freddie's case (at least not to me). If I was the lead singer in a legendary rock band with dozens of hit singles to my name (which Freddie had), and sold millions of albums, then yes, I would have an ego (everyone will, don't say you don't). But since I'm not an asshole in the general sense, I would keep my ego under control. Maybe Freddie started getting the "lead singer disease" early because when Queen was in its early years, the hit singles were "Seven Seas of Rhye", "Now I'm Here", "Liar", "Killer Queen," etc. That early success got to Freddie and he became a diva. Of course, he matured and the "lead singer disease" disappeared before it did any sort of damage. I've listened/read dozens of Freddie's interviews, and he comes off as a decent, kind, and intelligent guy with a sense of humor. In Walsh's interviews, he's quite the opposite: He claims that he doesn't know anything about Styx, Yes, and other 70s prog rock bands in Kansas' vein (I call BS on that statement), and he personally hates touring, but has to "make money." I think it's safe to say that Freddie was probably a bit of an asshole in Queen's first years, but was smart enough to realize that he would looked at negatively, so he matured, and grew out of the prima donna attitude (all the asshole/prima donna stories I hear about Freddie are mostly from his earlier years in the band). |
Dusta 27.12.2009 04:12 |
It may be worth noting that Freddie was known for having a very tongue in cheek good time with the whole diva thing, . Perhaps Mr Walsh didn't get share Freddie's sense of humor? In any case, I am willing to accept the fact that not everyone loved Freddie. In fact, truthfully, I am surprised that more negativity hasn't come out from other artists about Freddie(though I may or may not have sensed some teeth gritting from David Bowie and Phil Collins when speaking about Freddie during some of the Queen documentaries). It seems that when an artist passes, all sorts of folks like to come out of the woodwork with horror stories about the bad behavior of said artist. I'll admit to being a casual Kansas fan, and I suppose Mr Walsh is entitled to his opinion, though I agree it is unkind to express them about someone who can certainly not defend oneself. |
Amazon 29.12.2009 10:27 |
GratefulFan wrote: It's always possible to have an ego bigger than one's talent. What level of talent justifies rude or insensitive behaviour towards others? If that's what Steve Walsh perceived, then it's a valid statement for him. It's worth remembering the tour Kansa was on was only three Queen albums in. Was Freddie really already an unassailable genius in early 1975? I think some pretty wonderful and formative things happend beyond that time that wrote much of the Mercury legend we know today. Walsh may be a bland twit of sorts, but it's never going to be outrageous that he had a poor opinion of Freddie or anybody else. I would say that Freddie became an unassailable genius with ANATO, but was already on the way to becoming one after Queen II and SHA. That said, I do agree that no amount of talent can justify extreme rude or insensitive behaviour. If Freddie was being an arsehole, then he was an arsehole and no talent can justify that. But here's the thing; even if Freddie was an arsehole, one would have to acknowledge his talent. For example, I think that John Lennon could sometimes act like an absolute prick, but he was a magnificent musician. Similarly, Paul's treatment of George wasn't always exemplary but Paul is a genius. Axl Rose is one of my favourite singers and is IMO an absolute freak, but he is not someone whom I would want my sister, or niece, to date. If Walsh had said something along the lines of 'He was a bloody talented performer but he was a real arsehole when I met him' that would be one thing. Instead he denied Freddie's talent which I think is crossing the line. He implied that Freddie wasn't talented, that he was just a prima donna with more ego than talent; and I think if anybody is the arsehole, it's Steve Walsh. |
john bodega 29.12.2009 11:42 |
He wanted to cross-pollinate and actually smash a mirror over the head of each and every black person that could not attend his Sun City gigs, but the tour budget simply didn't allow for it. They talk about it in the 1989 interview. |
Yara 29.12.2009 15:18 |
Well, to his credit, this is not the first time I read someone stating that Freddie was either an asshole, a diva or someone very hard to deal with. And he does come across as one in many interviews. He was a fairly talented pop/rock vocalist and composer, but some people tend to deify the guy. I don't like using this word, but ok, he may have been a genius in what he did - pop music for the masses. Pretty much like Michael Jackson. Whether he was a musical genius full stop, that's a different issue, which I'm not willing to discuss here. The quote seems accurate as to Freddie's character at the time - he couldn't accept criticism back in the early 70's and had some ridiculous fights with journalists who had criticized him respectfully. And that's part of the reason why I like him. I just can't stand these do-gooders, crippling bores who set out to generously save the humankind, such as Bono Vox. The Al Gores and Obamas of the world, in short. Nowadays a guy can't say "fuck" on stage without an association of environment-friendly fans coming up to protest his behavior. And I just get bored. ----- By the way, Kansas was a great band. |
ParisNair 30.12.2009 03:07 |
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Yara 30.12.2009 10:42 |
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GratefulFan 01.01.2010 19:28 |
Amazon wrote: I would say that Freddie became an unassailable genius with ANATO, but was already on the way to becoming one after Queen II and SHA. That said, I do agree that no amount of talent can justify extreme rude or insensitive behaviour. If Freddie was being an arsehole, then he was an arsehole and no talent can justify that. But here's the thing; even if Freddie was an arsehole, one would have to acknowledge his talent. For example, I think that John Lennon could sometimes act like an absolute prick, but he was a magnificent musician. Similarly, Paul's treatment of George wasn't always exemplary but Paul is a genius. Axl Rose is one of my favourite singers and is IMO an absolute freak, but he is not someone whom I would want my sister, or niece, to date. If Walsh had said something along the lines of 'He was a bloody talented performer but he was a real arsehole when I met him' that would be one thing. Instead he denied Freddie's talent which I think is crossing the line. He implied that Freddie wasn't talented, that he was just a prima donna with more ego than talent; and I think if anybody is the arsehole, it's Steve Walsh. I think you're extrapolating Walsh's remarks beyond where they were meant to go. What he said, in the context of a question about 1975, was that Freddie was 'an asshole'. Only when pushed on it did he qualify that with 'prima donna', which is something those closest to Freddie over most of his adult life have asserted as well. His comments about ego and talent only came to qualify prima donna as not a good thing. He never said directly or indirectly that Freddie had no talent. What was said was that in Walsh's view, during a discreet period of time that Walsh is qualified to comment on, Freddie's ego outstripped his talent and apparently made things unpleasant for some people. I accept that. |
Gregsynth 01.01.2010 23:09 |
GratefulFan wrote:Wait, let me translate what you just typed, and what Walsh said: He thinks that at the time, (the 1974/5 tour era), Freddie had a prima dona moment and that specific moment kinda put his talent on the "back burner" and the ego thing on the front burner?Amazon wrote: I would say that Freddie became an unassailable genius with ANATO, but was already on the way to becoming one after Queen II and SHA. That said, I do agree that no amount of talent can justify extreme rude or insensitive behaviour. If Freddie was being an arsehole, then he was an arsehole and no talent can justify that. But here's the thing; even if Freddie was an arsehole, one would have to acknowledge his talent. For example, I think that John Lennon could sometimes act like an absolute prick, but he was a magnificent musician. Similarly, Paul's treatment of George wasn't always exemplary but Paul is a genius. Axl Rose is one of my favourite singers and is IMO an absolute freak, but he is not someone whom I would want my sister, or niece, to date. If Walsh had said something along the lines of 'He was a bloody talented performer but he was a real arsehole when I met him' that would be one thing. Instead he denied Freddie's talent which I think is crossing the line. He implied that Freddie wasn't talented, that he was just a prima donna with more ego than talent; and I think if anybody is the arsehole, it's Steve Walsh.I think you're extrapolating Walsh's remarks beyond where they were meant to go. What he said, in the context of a question about 1975, was that Freddie was 'an asshole'. Only when pushed on it did he qualify that with 'prima donna', which is something those closest to Freddie over most of his adult life have asserted as well. His comments about ego and talent only came to qualify prima donna as not a good thing. He never said directly or indirectly that Freddie had no talent. What was said was that in Walsh's view, during a discreet period of time that Walsh is qualified to comment on, Freddie's ego outstripped his talent and apparently made things unpleasant for some people. I accept that. |
GratefulFan 02.01.2010 00:39 |
I'm not spending any more time on this. If you think Freddie is beyond certain kinds of reproach, despite the mountains of evidence that he could be an extraordinarily difficult person, knock yourself out. He never seemed to me to be the type of man who wanted to be worshipped. |
Gregsynth 02.01.2010 01:25 |
GratefulFan wrote: I'm not spending any more time on this. If you think Freddie is beyond certain kinds of reproach, despite the mountains of evidence that he could be an extraordinarily difficult person, knock yourself out. He never seemed to me to be the type of man who wanted to be worshipped.That last post made absolutely NO SENSE dude. I never said "Freddie wasn't difficult." I was CLARIFYING your post that mentioned Walsh in it! LOL! |
john bodega 02.01.2010 01:54 |
Freddie was a complete prick. ... to some people. End of. |
Amazon 02.01.2010 07:29 |
GratefulFan wrote:Amazon wrote: I would say that Freddie became an unassailable genius with ANATO, but was already on the way to becoming one after Queen II and SHA. That said, I do agree that no amount of talent can justify extreme rude or insensitive behaviour. If Freddie was being an arsehole, then he was an arsehole and no talent can justify that. But here's the thing; even if Freddie was an arsehole, one would have to acknowledge his talent. For example, I think that John Lennon could sometimes act like an absolute prick, but he was a magnificent musician. Similarly, Paul's treatment of George wasn't always exemplary but Paul is a genius. Axl Rose is one of my favourite singers and is IMO an absolute freak, but he is not someone whom I would want my sister, or niece, to date. If Walsh had said something along the lines of 'He was a bloody talented performer but he was a real arsehole when I met him' that would be one thing. Instead he denied Freddie's talent which I think is crossing the line. He implied that Freddie wasn't talented, that he was just a prima donna with more ego than talent; and I think if anybody is the arsehole, it's Steve Walsh.I think you're extrapolating Walsh's remarks beyond where they were meant to go. What he said, in the context of a question about 1975, was that Freddie was 'an asshole'. Only when pushed on it did he qualify that with 'prima donna', which is something those closest to Freddie over most of his adult life have asserted as well. His comments about ego and talent only came to qualify prima donna as not a good thing. He never said directly or indirectly that Freddie had no talent. What was said was that in Walsh's view, during a discreet period of time that Walsh is qualified to comment on, Freddie's ego outstripped his talent and apparently made things unpleasant for some people. I accept that. Since we're only going on a couple of sentences in an interview, it may very well be that I'm reading beyond what he is saying. Nonetheless, and this is not about regarding Freddie as perfect or anything like that, but if he's saying that Freddie's ego outstripped his talent, I do not accept that. Walsh can think whatever he likes, and Freddie may very well have acted like an arsehole to him, but I don't believe that Freddie's ego would have been to such an extent that it would have outsripped his talent, which IMO was already vast. |
Drowse.in.red 02.01.2010 17:04 |
I think Freddie wasn't an easy person to stay with, I mean, he was... peculiar (is this the right word?). Someone loved him, someone did not. Things go this way with interesting people, like him. |
Gregsynth 05.01.2010 15:05 |
Zebonka12 wrote: He wanted to cross-pollinate and actually smash a mirror over the head of each and every black person that could not attend his Sun City gigs, but the tour budget simply didn't allow for it. They talk about it in the 1989 interview.Thanks for clearing that up! |
Gregsynth 05.01.2010 15:15 |
I'm running out of things to say for now about my own topic, LOL. So I'll conclude my post: Did Freddie have an ego? Yes Was Freddie a bit of a Prima Donna/asshole in Queen's early years? Yes Could Freddie be unreasonable at times? Yes Is Freddie an asshole in general? No: He was a kind, generous man (his main personality) who had a great sense of humor, and always gave 100% in his performances. Sure he had faults/weaknesses, but he's human. Final note: Freddie's TALENT is more than his ego, not the other way around Mr. Steve Walsh! |
Amazon 06.01.2010 05:21 |
Gregsynth- "Final note: Freddie's TALENT is more than his ego, not the other way around Mr. Steve Walsh!" Hear Hear!!!!! |
Gregsynth 06.01.2010 15:01 |
Yes, yes!!! |
Matias Merçeauroix 08.01.2010 04:16 |
Steve Walsh doesn't like people at all. Maybe he didn't need a reason to dislike Freddie, maybe he just didn't. But he's an absolutely incredible composer/arranger/player/singer. Freddie's far superior, tho. |
Gregsynth 09.01.2010 14:30 |
Funky Horsie wrote: Steve Walsh doesn't like people at all. Maybe he didn't need a reason to dislike Freddie, maybe he just didn't. But he's an absolutely incredible composer/arranger/player/singer. Freddie's far superior, tho.Agree! |
jamster1111 08.02.2010 20:31 |
First of all. Kansas wasnt the best band in the world. Especially when you are comparing them to queen. He was probably extremely jealous. It was extremely innapropriate to say he has an ego bigger than his talent because that is impossible. This man is over exaggerating |
Gregsynth 08.02.2010 20:35 |
Yeah, I mean if Steve said "Freddie was acting like a prima donna, but he could sing" or something like that, that's fine. But to say "his ego is bigger than his talent" is not only untrue, but is absurd, inconsiderate, and just shows that Steve was either having a bad day, or sour grapes. |
GratefulFan 09.02.2010 08:01 |
jamster1111 wrote: It was extremely innapropriate to say he has an ego bigger than his talent because that is impossible. This man is over exaggerating Ha ha ha. Delicious irony. And just in time for breakfast! |
john bodega 09.02.2010 08:33 |
He's a bitter cunt, case closed. |
Gregsynth 09.02.2010 11:29 |
The funniest thing is that this post was dormat for WEEKS. Then all of a sudden, I see replies on it! LMFAO! |
www_thequeenclub_eu 11.02.2010 14:44 |
Steve is the biggest asshole! Just look at him :D |
Gregsynth 11.02.2010 16:01 |
LOL! |
Gregsynth 25.02.2010 12:18 |
Not that it matters, but I found this quite funny: Here's a quote from an interview with Kansas' drummer, Phil Ehart: "When things started going well, we started going into THEIR dressing room, and Freddie was always there. He was always very nice. Very friendly. Just a regular guy. He was just one of the guys. But the instant he stepped out of that dressing room, he was the star. He was in character. But that whole band was always very nice to us." I love how 2 members of the same band have the exact opposite opinions of Freddie! LOL |
GratefulFan 27.02.2010 12:53 |
www_thequeenclub_eu wrote: Steve is the biggest asshole! Just look at him :D Not that it matters, but that's not Steve Walsh. |
Gregsynth 27.02.2010 13:17 |
I think that's David Ragsdale--Kansas' current violinist. |
Meatwall 08.04.2012 19:28 |
Funny thing is that I talked to Steve Walsh's ex-wife about this very thing not a month ago. She said when they were touring with Queen Freddy never hung out with Roger, John and Brian much in the dressing room and when all the band members (of both bands) and Kansas and their wives would hang out or go to dinner Freddie never went. She said Freddy didn't even treat Brian, Roger or John well either. So I don't know - we were not there and she was. And being Walsh's EX wife, I guess she's got no reason to lie. |
YAFF 09.04.2012 23:02 |
dragon-fly wrote: Freddie was Freddie. Take it or leave it.True. I would never have wanted to meet him for fear he'd do something to lessen my pleasure of hearing him sing. The less I know about artists the better. Anyway, Freddie's ego was in fact matched by his talent |
cmsdrums 10.04.2012 13:30 |
From what I've gathered over the years, Freddie didn't really have an 'ego' at all - more that he was uncomfortable around lots of people in private and not sure how to come across because people just expected him to live up to his stage persona. When it came to the music, yes, he (and the rest of the band) were perfectionists, and rightly so in my opinion. Some people do however read that as having an ego, but that is a very different thing altogether. |
Stelios 10.04.2012 15:24 |
I think Freddie was extremely fast to understand people and their intentions.And although its easy to imagine him in a effortless advantageous position he wasn't actualy. He had to protect his sensibilities, his unique temperament and the side of a "real baby" he admited having inside the often vulgar scene of rock and roll. So i am sure that if he sow danger he could switch fast to "off-limits' diva persona and discard all the bullshit from getting into him. |