| john bodega 15.10.2009 15:55 |
Can someone please explain to me why Seinfield is funny? I've tried watching it a couple of dozen times in my life and it's never made me laugh. None of it - the laugh track offers no clues as to where laughter is supposed to naturally occur. I mean I've REALLY tried too. I've given it a bigger chance than any comedy I can remember turning my back on. And I've tried figuring out why the hell I don't enjoy it. Is the humour America specific? This can't be - I watched Frasier for 11 years and I loved that show. Help me out. |
| Angeline 15.10.2009 18:02 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Can someone please explain to me why Seinfield is funny? I can't help. I too have tried really hard to work out what i'm 'missing' but have not succeeded. I just think it isn't. But then some people don't like Black Books and that makes me lose my mind laughing. |
| Mr Mercury 15.10.2009 18:05 |
I have the same problem with Little Britain. And The Office. I guess its all about differing senses of humour....... |
| Crazy LittleThing 15.10.2009 18:25 |
Seinfeld--either it works for you or it doesn't. I have practically a encyclopedic knowledge of the Seinfeld show ("the sea was angry that day, my friends"), but I wasn't into it at all when it first became popular. In fact, it wasn't that good in the beginning and had to be revamped after the initial run of "Seinfeld Chronicles" because the network (NBC) almost canceled it , so it was reworked and renamed "Seinfeld". I started watching it when it was shown in syndication at weird hours, like 11:00 pm at night. I gave it a week or so. It grew on me, and I began to appreciate each character and each character's many, MANY flaws, and the whole cyclical nature of the writing that went into each episode. After a year or so of watching it in syndication, I started watching it when it was actually on. One thing that doesn't work is to try to start off watching it by watching the best episodes (Festivus, Soup Nazi, The Trip to India, Kramer goes Hollywood, Jewish Singles Dinner--these are some of the ones that I think are the best--ask someone else and they will hate these episodes and rave about others). I think the first one I saw was "The Chinese Restaurant", which I thought, at the time was pretty stupid, but it turned out to be a good way to start. I may just not be your thing, Zeb. Sadly, you will never appreciate the insane beauty of one of Frank and Estelle Costanza's shouting matches, or the witness the bizarre lifestyle rituals of retired New Yorkers (Jerry's parents) who move to Florida. I feel for you. Sorry 'bout that. Cheers, Cindy |
| The Real Wizard 15.10.2009 20:25 |
Crazy LittleThing wrote: ("the sea was angry that day, my friends") Like an old man trying to take soup back at a deli ! The brilliance of Seinfeld is the writing, as there are always numerous unrelated things that end up being related to one another in the end. People often complain that the main characters are all selfish people... but that's the very point of the show! But humour is such a relative thing... not everything works on everyone. But you do have to feel bad for anyone who doesn't buckle over every time George pulls out that golf ball and Kramer asks if it's a Titleist. |
| cacatua 15.10.2009 20:54 |
It has been a while since I've seen it now, but one of my favorite incidents was when Elaine snatched the toupe' off of George's head, dashed to the window and hurled it out because she couldn't stand it anymore. There was the visit to the Hamptons and shrinkage, the low-talkers and bizarro world, and of course, the soup nazi. It was indeed about these self-centered people and their adventures, many of which were absurd, and yes, things always did seem to come full circle and tie up all the loose ends before it was over. |
| i-Fred 15.10.2009 20:54 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Can someone please explain to me why Seinfield is funny?I've tried watching it a couple of dozen times in my life and it's never made me laugh. None of it - the laugh track offers no clues as to where laughter is supposed to naturally occur. I mean I've REALLY tried too. I've given it a bigger chance than any comedy I can remember turning my back on. And I've tried figuring out why the hell I don't enjoy it. Is the humour America specific? This can't be - I watched Frasier for 11 years and I loved that show. Help me out. Its sophisticated humor... thats why you don't get it |
| «¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» 15.10.2009 22:37 |
I've never thought Seinfeld was that funny personally. Not even when he did stand-up. I guess I feel the same really, the only one I can give credit too is "Kramer" . He was funnier than all of them put together. Frasier on the other hand...now there's a sophisticated comedy classic!! I liked everyone on that show. Niles was hilarious! |
| john bodega 16.10.2009 00:17 |
Freddies Lunch Box wrote: Its sophisticated humor... thats why you don't get itOh I get it. Sarcasm. Hehe, I lol'd. PS. Frasier. As in, 11 years of. (sigh) |
| john bodega 16.10.2009 00:18 |
Thanks for the replies folks - I'm still no closer to figuring out why it's so hit and miss (I know people on a roughly 60:40 ratio that don't like it and do like it, in that order) but I'll give it another go next time I see it around. PS. I can't imagine anyone not laughing at Black Books. That show is as funny as a baby elephant in the bath is cute. |
| i-Fred 16.10.2009 01:40 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Thanks for the replies folks - I'm still no closer to figuring out why it's so hit and miss (I know people on a roughly 60:40 ratio that don't like it and do like it, in that order) but I'll give it another go next time I see it around.PS. I can't imagine anyone not laughing at Black Books. That show is as funny as a baby elephant in the bath is cute. well.... dont forget that watching it now might not do it as much justice as watching it when it was being shown back then... taking in to account all the other shows that were on, it may of had an impact with it being different. There are some good episodes, and at times I did watch the show end on end...on re-runs but...still... see your point as for why was it so big... |
| Crazy LittleThing 16.10.2009 15:04 |
Sir GH wrote: Crazy LittleThing wrote: ("the sea was angry that day, my friends")Sir GH wrote: Like an old man trying to take soup back at a deli ! The brilliance of Seinfeld is the writing, as there are always numerous unrelated things that end up being related to one another in the end. People often complain that the main characters are all selfish people... but that's the very point of the show! But humour is such a relative thing... not everything works on everyone. But you do have to feel bad for anyone who doesn't buckle over every time George pulls out that golf ball and Kramer asks if it's a Titleist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sein_ep514.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crazy Little Thing wrote: That (in bold above) and "they kept ringing the bell!" (the runaway bus) are the two best lines in Seinfeld, and I hold my breath and wait for it every time I see those episodes. Last week I saw a car with the personalized license plate "NOSOUP4U". While in a car, driving through a mixed residential/retail neighborhood in Tel Aviv, I saw an elaborately framed portrait of "The Kramer" leaning up against the exterior wall of a shop. All I could think at the time was "He is a loathsome offensive brute, yet I can't take my eyes away." Priceless! You're right. The writing is brilliant, and the weaving together of the separate threads, while sometimes predictable, is always clever. |
| @ndy38 16.10.2009 17:50 |
I love the show, it's a nice combination of Larry David's dark twisted sense of humour and Seinfeld's observational comedy. I'm not a comedy snob or anything but i'd rather have Seinfeld any day over Friends, and the latter was even more popular! Friends is so shit, i wish people would just realise it's a cheesy show that directly stole specific jokes and humour from other comedies. But anyway back to Seinfeld, it's one of those shows that you either warm to the humour or you don't, very little in between. |
| john bodega 17.10.2009 04:02 |
Ha! I'm with you on Friends, I honestly couldn't see the appeal with that show. |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 17.10.2009 04:09 |
give me Larry Sanders/Garry Shandling or Will & Grace over Seinfeld and Friends any day of the week but if you left me alone with the entire back catalogue of Cheers and Frasier and an endless supply of cyder and pastys you'd never see me again,can happily watch them until the cows come home |
| john bodega 17.10.2009 05:15 |
Minus the cider (regrettably) that Cheers/Frasier combo is something like what me and my nephew got up to about a year ago .... good times, good times. |
| Sergei. 17.10.2009 09:20 |
I completely agree with what some people above have said –– What makes Seinfeld great is the writing, the way each plot and sub-plot are all connected and tied together by the end of the episode, and the completely outrageous way that characters and situations are depicted. The main characters are perfect, too, including Jerry, even though half the time it's obvious that he's trying to keep from laughing at his own lines. The ridiculous relationships between Jerry, Elaine, George and Kramer are actually believable, whereas in all these shitty new sitcoms they're constantly trying to come out with (which may or may not star Kelsey Grammer) the interactions between the characters just seem phony and scripted. I've loved Seinfeld for a long time and have seen every episode, and I think they're all great. XD I think the easy way to respond to someone who claims that Seinfeld isn't funny could be to just say "YOU DON'T GET THE JOKES PSSSHT," but it really just might not be your brand of humour. Just like some people don't find Monty Python funny, or the way I don't find lame comedians like Ralphie May to be funny. |
| john bodega 17.10.2009 09:28 |
Sergei. wrote: (which may or may not star Kelsey Grammer)He certainly doesn't have the Midas touch ... couldn't stomach more than 5 minutes of that show where he was the TV anchor. It was pretty tragic after 20 years of Cheers/Frasier. |
| 4 x Vision 17.10.2009 09:30 |
Zebonka12 wrote:Sergei. wrote: (which may or may not star Kelsey Grammer) He certainly doesn't have the Midas touch ... couldn't stomach more than 5 minutes of that show where he was the TV anchor. It was pretty tragic after 20 years of Cheers/Frasier. SORRY ZEB FOR HIJACKING YOUR RESPONSE, but as your currently online.... Do you know how to add a photo or image to a reply without using the Upload File feature??? I want it so that a picture appears in the thread. |
| Sergei. 17.10.2009 09:35 |
Van Basten 9 wrote:< img src = " photo link " > Minus all the spaces except the one between img and src. I only put the spaces because the HTML code would come up as a question mark without them.Zebonka12 wrote:He certainly doesn't have the Midas touch ... couldn't stomach more than 5 minutes of that show where he was the TV anchor. It was pretty tragic after 20 years of Cheers/Frasier. SORRY ZEB FOR HIJACKING YOUR RESPONSE, but as your currently online.... Do you know how to add a photo or image to a reply without using the Upload File feature??? I want it so that a picture appears in the thread.Sergei. wrote: (which may or may not star Kelsey Grammer) |
| 4 x Vision 17.10.2009 10:01 |
Thank you Sergei |
| Crazy LittleThing 17.10.2009 10:08 |
Zebonka12 wrote:Sergei. wrote: (which may or may not star Kelsey Grammer) Zebonka12 wrote: He certainly doesn't have the Midas touch ... couldn't stomach more than 5 minutes of that show where he was the TV anchor. It was pretty tragic after 20 years of Cheers/Frasier. Crazy Little Thing wrote: Ay yi yi! THAT show was a horror. It made me want to stick needles in my eyes, then I found the remote and changed the channel. Crisis averted--eyes saved. |
| john bodega 17.10.2009 10:18 |
Really illustrates how many shows rest so heavily on their writers. When that last big writers strike was in the news, I remember John Stuart (who I think is bloody hilarious) totally sucking because they were having to come up with material in other ways. |
| Sergei. 17.10.2009 10:31 |
Crazy LittleThing wrote:Hahah! He needs to stop trying to redeem himself in crappy new TV shows that run for a month and then get cancelled. Give it a rest, Kelsey. RIP careerZebonka12 wrote:Zebonka12 wrote: He certainly doesn't have the Midas touch ... couldn't stomach more than 5 minutes of that show where he was the TV anchor. It was pretty tragic after 20 years of Cheers/Frasier. Crazy Little Thing wrote: Ay yi yi! THAT show was a horror. It made me want to stick needles in my eyes, then I found the remote and changed the channel. Crisis averted--eyes saved.Sergei. wrote: (which may or may not star Kelsey Grammer) |
| john bodega 17.10.2009 10:34 |
There was more than one??? Ouch! |
| 4 x Vision 17.10.2009 10:38 |
I agree, Seinfield has ALWAYS baffled me to why it got so much success... I hate it. BUT... now this may seem strange, I love Curb Your Enthusiasm. I think it's a masterpiece of a comedy series... FAR FAR funnier and genuinely wittier than Seinfield. I can't get round how half the writing force behind Seinfield (which I hate... as well as the man himself) can produce such a good show In CYE. (Too be clearer... like Larry David, despise JS) Have you watched any of CYE Zeb? It's one of the few series I've missed out on while it aired, but then went and bought the entire box set and watched from start to finish... beard growing session. It's similar to the Cheers/Frasier one. I LOVE Cheers, dislike Frasier (although his character worked in Cheers and it may have worked if it hadn't aired for so fucking long). BTW... Joxer... Larry Sanders is in the top of my list for TV comedies ever. 1st. Larry Sanders Show (Most witty comedy series of ALL TIME imo) 2nd. Alan Partridge including KMKY (Genius too). 3rd. Cheers (Such a feel good prog, love it). (I'd genuinely add Prisoner Cell Block H, but not sure whether to add as comedy or drama lol). |
| Sergei. 17.10.2009 10:40 |
Grammer has been in some other junk that hasn't lasted too long. He tried to make his own sketch show that aired for like four episodes, and I remember him being in some piece of shit Spike TV cartoon called "Gary the Rat" that didn't stick around for more than one season. |
| Crazy LittleThing 17.10.2009 13:35 |
I love CYE. And most of the time I agree with Larry (about whatever it is that has ticked him off) but, of course he takes it to the extreme. Keep in mind that Seinfeld was a primetime broadcast network show, and CYE is a cable show and not constrained by the same rules. CYE without Susie Essman going off on Jeff, but not being able to drop the eff bomb again and again wouldn't be anywhere near as funny. And, of course, Larry David was the guy in the cape who Jerry and Elaine saw walking down tthe street with Frank Costanza . . . [img=link I've been a Shandling fan for years, long before Larry Sanders, which was another brilliant show, BTW. "You're the HEAD writer. You're the HEAD writer." Fantastic show. Another thing about Seinfeld is that the show was based on his comedy, which was rooted in his observations about people and the little things that take place in everyday life, or, rather, nothing. Kramer, George, Elaine, and everyone else was just the frosting on the cake. Ah! Totally with you on Prisoner: Cell Block H, Van Basten. It was so awful it was great. There was that old bat who had been in prison since the Cretaceous and finally got out only to discover that she really wanted to be back in so got caught shoplifting or something to violate her parole, tragic yes, funny as hell, yes sir! Re: embedding the photo: BRILLIANT! Thank you the most excellent Sergei and Van Basten for showing me how to do this. |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 17.10.2009 13:36 |
Van Basten 9 wrote: I agree, Seinfield has ALWAYS baffled me to why it got so much success... I hate it. BUT... now this may seem strange, I love Curb Your Enthusiasm. I think it's a masterpiece of a comedy series... FAR FAR funnier and genuinely wittier than Seinfield. I can't get round how half the writing force behind Seinfield (which I hate... as well as the man himself) can produce such a good show In CYE. (Too be clearer... like Larry David, despise JS) Have you watched any of CYE Zeb? It's one of the few series I've missed out on while it aired, but then went and bought the entire box set and watched from start to finish... beard growing session. It's similar to the Cheers/Frasier one. I LOVE Cheers, dislike Frasier (although his character worked in Cheers and it may have worked if it hadn't aired for so fucking long). BTW... Joxer... Larry Sanders is in the top of my list for TV comedies ever. 1st. Larry Sanders Show (Most witty comedy series of ALL TIME imo) 2nd. Alan Partridge including KMKY (Genius too). 3rd. Cheers (Such a feel good prog, love it). (I'd genuinely add Prisoner Cell Block H, but not sure whether to add as comedy or drama lol). ive been a fan of Garry Shandlings for far toooooooo many years now,plus anything with Rip Torn in gets my arse in front of the tv with no questions asked.this is the reason i cannot watch Letterman or programmes of the same ilk :-p *hums the theme to The Garry Shandling Show out loud and goes searching for an episode on youtube* |
| Major Tom 17.10.2009 14:10 |
I LOVE Seinfeld and don't really like Frasier. I think it's just a matter of opinion Zebonka, wheter you love or hate tragic humour. |
| 4 x Vision 17.10.2009 18:29 |
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:Van Basten 9 wrote: I agree, Seinfield has ALWAYS baffled me to why it got so much success... I hate it. BUT... now this may seem strange, I love Curb Your Enthusiasm. I think it's a masterpiece of a comedy series... FAR FAR funnier and genuinely wittier than Seinfield. I can't get round how half the writing force behind Seinfield (which I hate... as well as the man himself) can produce such a good show In CYE. (Too be clearer... like Larry David, despise JS) Have you watched any of CYE Zeb? It's one of the few series I've missed out on while it aired, but then went and bought the entire box set and watched from start to finish... beard growing session. It's similar to the Cheers/Frasier one. I LOVE Cheers, dislike Frasier (although his character worked in Cheers and it may have worked if it hadn't aired for so fucking long). BTW... Joxer... Larry Sanders is in the top of my list for TV comedies ever. 1st. Larry Sanders Show (Most witty comedy series of ALL TIME imo) 2nd. Alan Partridge including KMKY (Genius too). 3rd. Cheers (Such a feel good prog, love it). (I'd genuinely add Prisoner Cell Block H, but not sure whether to add as comedy or drama lol).ive been a fan of Garry Shandlings for far toooooooo many years now,plus anything with Rip Torn in gets my arse in front of the tv with no questions asked.this is the reason i cannot watch Letterman or programmes of the same ilk :-p *hums the theme to The Garry Shandling Show out loud and goes searching for an episode on youtube* Yeah, Rip Torn is a feckin genius. Have you seen the new box set with new added documentary?... it gets Larry, Hank and Arty back in the room after all these years to discuss what made the show what it was. Fascinating. Just thought of Hank with the spider on his head lmfao. Used to be my screen saver ha ha |
| Crazy LittleThing 18.10.2009 10:01 |
Kramer's entrances in chronological order: |
| «¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» 21.10.2009 19:49 |
@ndy38 wrote: I love the show, it's a nice combination of Larry David's dark twisted sense of humour and Seinfeld's observational comedy. I'm not a comedy snob or anything but i'd rather have Seinfeld any day over Friends, and the latter was even more popular! Friends is so shit, i wish people would just realise it's a cheesy show that directly stole specific jokes and humour from other comedies. But anyway back to Seinfeld, it's one of those shows that you either warm to the humour or you don't, very little in between. Which shows are you talking about that they stole humor from?? |
| Donna13 16.11.2009 20:41 |
Friends stole all their ideas from I Love Lucy. Even the hair styles. I'm just kidding, but actually I'm probably correct. Well, I still do not know why Seinfeld was funny. Some of the episodes were funnier than others and some scenes were funnier than others. Hmm. I guess they got a lot of their ideas from the norms of New York City. Such as waiting in line at a restaurant, movie, bakery, deli, or looking for a parking space - stuff that would be slightly irritating to a normal person (because you are always in a crowd up there), but a normal person would adhere to the customs and not make waves. I guess going against the crowd, against the norm or the social norm or what would be considered "nice" is what makes for the comedy on that show. On Frasier the characters had a charming quality - maybe of the good but mixed up underdog type. (Even though Niles and Frasier were well off, and had designer furniture, and so forth, they were basically underdogs and they had quirks that most people could relate to probably.) And the characters of Daphne and Frasier's father were a great down-to-earth contrast to Frasier and Niles. And the happy or funny endings on that show just left you with a warmer feeling. The characters were better developed than on Kelsey Grammer's latest show, which just got canceled ("Hank"). I thought Hank was OK, but the characters were not too nice - wise cracking teenager and brother in law and wife - just too many wise cracks and not enough to get a person interested. I agree with a talent like Kelsey Grammer, you really still do need excellent writing to make a show a success. And better characters to surround the main character. The show that I like lately is an older one I think - from England - "As Time Goes By" with Judy Dench. There is new one that is pretty good but I wouldn't get upset if I missed an episode - "The Middle" with Patricia Heaton. |
| «¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» 17.11.2009 15:11 |
Donna13 wrote: Friends stole all their ideas from I Love Lucy. Even the hair styles. I'm just kidding, but actually I'm probably correct. I have to disagree. I'm a huge "I Love Lucy" fan and have seen every episode ever made. There's no comparisons that I can even relate too, between the two sitcoms. I'm thinking the "Honeymooner's" is more closer to "I Love Lucy" then "Friends" is! |
| mooghead 18.11.2009 17:30 |
Seinfeld is the best tv series in the history of the world. Of any genre. Ever. Fact. Am utterly shocked by how few people know of a british tv comedy called 'The Inbetweeners' which has had 2 series and is the best british comedy since 'Blackadder'. Check it out. |
| john bodega 19.11.2009 11:26 |
mooghead wrote: Seinfeld is the best tv series in the history of the world. Of any genre. Ever. FactIt's amazing that you wrote that in the same post as mentioning Blackadder. Haha. |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 19.11.2009 12:57 |
mooghead wrote: Seinfeld is the best tv series in the history of the world. Of any genre. Ever. Fact. Am utterly shocked by how few people know of a british tv comedy called 'The Inbetweeners' which has had 2 series and is the best british comedy since 'Blackadder'. Check it out. I wouldn't go quite as far as you've gone, but The Inbetweeners is certainly mildly amusing. It's hardly award winning wit though. |
| mooghead 19.11.2009 18:09 |
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote:mooghead wrote: Seinfeld is the best tv series in the history of the world. Of any genre. Ever. Fact. Am utterly shocked by how few people know of a british tv comedy called 'The Inbetweeners' which has had 2 series and is the best british comedy since 'Blackadder'. Check it out.I wouldn't go quite as far as you've gone, but The Inbetweeners is certainly mildly amusing. It's hardly award winning wit though. The thing about Inbetweeners is its how people actually talk. Its funny coz its true. Everyone who watches it can identify with one of the main characters. I am Jay, of course. Its certainly not witty, its crude and funny, sometimes thats what you need. Series 1 and 2 at play.com for 9.99. |
| 4 x Vision 21.11.2009 06:42 |
Mentioning The Inbetweeners on the same page as Larry Sanders Show or Alan Partridge makes you more of a comedian than all the above. |
| Donna13 21.11.2009 14:53 |
«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote:Donna13 wrote: Friends stole all their ideas from I Love Lucy. Even the hair styles. I'm just kidding, but actually I'm probably correct.I have to disagree. I'm a huge "I Love Lucy" fan and have seen every episode ever made. There's no comparisons that I can even relate too, between the two sitcoms. I'm thinking the "Honeymooner's" is more closer to "I Love Lucy" then "Friends" is! Really? Anyway, if you break it down into elements, you can see the similarities I think. For example, plot development, location, theme music, the glamour, the silly misunderstandings, etc. But just taking the personalities of the four, Lucy, Ricky, Ethel and Fred, you can dissect those nicely and spread the traits around and they perfectly create the personalities of the Friends characters. To me, it has nothing to do with the era in which the shows were made. But just think - if Friends had been made before I Love Lucy, Friends would have gotten all the credit. And I do think that hair was a big part of the success of I Love Lucy. No doubt! |
| mooghead 21.11.2009 16:07 |
"Really illustrates how many shows rest so heavily on their writers." Must admit, Seinfeld is my favourite prog of all time but it did lose something after Larry David left. |
| mooghead 21.11.2009 16:13 |
I am now 33 and been around a bit and the one thing in life I have learnt is that the most subjective thing in the universe is comedy. A million times more than music even. Anyone who ridicules someone else because they dont find the same thing funny does not have the presence of mind to even waste time arguing with. Really wish this site was frequented by more adults. |
| john bodega 22.11.2009 01:21 |
mooghead wrote: Anyone who ridicules someone else because they dont find the same thing funny does not have the presence of mind to even waste time arguing with.True enough but I've seen so much of that ridiculing on this site that it's become a comedy in itself. I love to sit back and read some of the nonsense. |
| mooghead 22.11.2009 06:54 |
Zebonka12 wrote:mooghead wrote: Anyone who ridicules someone else because they dont find the same thing funny does not have the presence of mind to even waste time arguing with.True enough but I've seen so much of that ridiculing on this site that it's become a comedy in itself. I love to sit back and read some of the nonsense. Yeh, its worth lighting the blue touch paper now and then for the comedy value. |
| «¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» 22.11.2009 13:22 |
Donna13 wrote:«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote:Really? Anyway, if you break it down into elements, you can see the similarities I think. For example, plot development, location, theme music, the glamour, the silly misunderstandings, etc. But just taking the personalities of the four, Lucy, Ricky, Ethel and Fred, you can dissect those nicely and spread the traits around and they perfectly create the personalities of the Friends characters. To me, it has nothing to do with the era in which the shows were made. But just think - if Friends had been made before I Love Lucy, Friends would have gotten all the credit. And I do think that hair was a big part of the success of I Love Lucy. No doubt!Donna13 wrote: Friends stole all their ideas from I Love Lucy. Even the hair styles. I'm just kidding, but actually I'm probably correct.I have to disagree. I'm a huge "I Love Lucy" fan and have seen every episode ever made. There's no comparisons that I can even relate too, between the two sitcoms. I'm thinking the "Honeymooner's" is more closer to "I Love Lucy" then "Friends" is! I still fail to see any comparison's. They're were only four characters in "I Love Lucy" vs. six in Friends. Ricky was a Cuban band leader and Fred and Ethel were Landlords. Lucy was a crazy red-head who was always the "center of attention" in the series, and constantly found trouble one way or another. Ethel was always the underdog compared to Lucy, and married to a grumpy old goat. I fail to see how Rachel, Phoebe or Monica compare to these characters. Ricky was a Cuban with a bad temper and always upset at Lucy for her crazy antics, and I don't see any of these personality traits in Chandler, Ross, or Joey. The only thing I can relate to the both shows is that Lucy, Ricky, Fred and Ethel shared a bond as the same for the Friends characters. The success of I Love Lucy was not because of her hair..it was due to her incredible acting ability that she was quite humble about, and always gave credit to the writers for. By the way...it was Rachel Green( Jennifer Anisten) who became extremely famous for her hair. The haircut to this day is known as "The Rachel". |
| «¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» 22.11.2009 14:33 |
Zebonka12 wrote:mooghead wrote: Anyone who ridicules someone else because they dont find the same thing funny does not have the presence of mind to even waste time arguing with.True enough but I've seen so much of that ridiculing on this site that it's become a comedy in itself. I love to sit back and read some of the nonsense. Its what makes QZ entertaining...I have to agree. |
| cacatua 22.11.2009 18:23 |
You just have to remember one thing in life, Z: Never moon a werewolf.............The rest of the crap will resolve itself. |
