| Rock It 30.04.2009 04:50 |
Influenced by........... Whats up these days with all the new artists who say they are influenced by Queen and especially Freddie Mercury? Somehow Queen is more recognized and appreciated for their music and showmanship then they ever were. People who love(d) Queen in their heydays must remember, that saying that you were a Queen-fan, some people responded like, "well, then you must be gay"! Nowadays we seem to be past that (not in all country's) but somehow it is very cool to say that you have been influenced by this band called Queen.The artists admiring Queen are also very diverse in background. Even though most of those artists referring to Queen weren't born when Queen was alive and well. I mean people even are naming them self after one of their songs, "Lady Ga Ga" (i must say i like "Poker face"). Artists who say they were influenced or one of their influences is/are Queen. Kate Perry Pink Mika Franz Ferdinand Coldplay Kaiser Chiefs Robbie Williams Green Day Celine Dion etc. The list goes on and on.... Don't get me wrong, i think it's great that Queen finally gets recognized and loved for their outstanding music, live performances and just sheer fun (something we "gay" fans already knew)! What are your thoughts on this? |
| Holly2003 30.04.2009 05:14 |
Rock It wrote: Influenced by........... Whats up these days with all the new artists who say they are influenced by Queen and especially Freddie Mercury? Somehow Queen is more recognized and appreciated for their music and showmanship then they ever were. People who love(d) Queen in their heydays must remember, that saying that you were a Queen-fan, some people responded like, "well, then you must be gay"! Nowadays we seem to be past that (not in all country's) but somehow it is very cool to say that you have been influenced by this band called Queen.The artists admiring Queen are also very diverse in background. Even though most of those artists referring to Queen weren't born when Queen was alive and well. I mean people even are naming them self after one of their songs, "Lady Ga Ga" (i must say i like "Poker face"). Artists who say they were influenced or one of their influences is/are Queen. Kate Perry Pink Mika Franz Ferdinand Coldplay Kaiser Chiefs Robbie Williams Green Day Celine Dion etc. The list goes on and on.... Don't get me wrong, i think it's great that Queen finally gets recognized and loved for their outstanding music, live performances and just sheer fun (something we "gay" fans already knew)! What are your thoughts on this? I used to be of the opinion that very few quality bands or artists covered Queen songs and that might be an indication of how high (or low) the cream of rock bands held Queen. After all, many quality artists have covered Bob Dylan songs and he is obviously held in high esteem by other musicians. The list you posted doesn't change my opinion much, but more generally, hearing positive comments by the likes of Dave Grohl and Metallica have made me rethink that. |
| Micrówave 30.04.2009 11:36 |
Are they really influenced by Freddie? Because the music sucks. It is about as un-Freddie as can be. Maybe it just because it is now "chic" to latch on to the gay. It's arguably the fastest growing demographic. What's next? Being from Canada? |
| thomasquinn 32989 30.04.2009 11:40 |
"Being influenced by" and "sounding like" are two entirely different things in music. I am inspired by, amongst others, Rachmaninov and Debussy. But does my music sound like them? Not at all. |
| Micrówave 30.04.2009 15:36 |
Well, that's a pretty broad paintbrush, then, TQ. So does that mean if I wrote a song while I was thinking about hot man-on-man action at Freddie's birthday party with one of the midgets, then I guess I was inspired by Freddie? Actually, I wasn't trying to say that those artists don't "sound" like Freddie. I just think Freddie would dismiss it as rubbish like the rest of us should. Katie Perry? Celine Dion? Give me a break. |
| the prophetess 30.04.2009 15:43 |
Axl Rose from Guns N' Roses should be added to that list. |
| Amazon 30.04.2009 16:06 |
the prophetess wrote: Axl Rose from Guns N' Roses should be added to that list.Indeed! One of my favourite singers, he is definitely one brilliant artist that that Queen can take (part) credit for. |
| Marcelo_argentina 30.04.2009 21:52 |
Axl Rose is the only one in that list that makes honor to Queen...just because he is a "real" fan as we all are...imo! |
| Marcelo_argentina 30.04.2009 21:53 |
for example "Street of Dreams" from Chinese Democracy is a very Queenish song...the same for "This love".... |
| demonwolf 01.05.2009 08:07 |
totally agree. queen ll is axls favourite record. and in the early nineties he even tried to find a doctor that could save freddie, but it was too late. |
| mike hunt 01.05.2009 11:28 |
ok, this is a Joke. People who posted above me don't know shit. All the biggest bands of the 80's till today were influenced by queen in one way or another, and no matter what the so called queenmoaners say wont change that. yes, the pop singers were influenced by queen, but so were guns and roses, green day, metallica, def lepperd, van halen, foo fighters/nirvana, motely crew, the cars, tool, dream theater.... Also, early Judas priest, Iron maiden, death angel. Ok, now what!....come on I'm waiting. Queen are one of the few bands that influenced a wide range of music. Black sabbath and Judas priest/Iron maiden were a huge influence to hard rock metal, but queen's influence was much wider. Holly, how old are you?....are you aware of the freddie tribute concert? |
| Micrówave 01.05.2009 11:48 |
Ouch!!! Mike Hunt seems very touchy today. You shouldn't mess with Mike Hunt. I wonder what got Mike Hunt all excited today? Perhaps I've abused Mike Hunt too much. But if I seriously think Iron Maiden was influenced by Queen or vice versa, I would be talking out Mike Hunt. |
| mike hunt 01.05.2009 11:56 |
I Just talk facts mr. microwave, Most people on this site don't. If you don't know what your talking about don't write nothing. If you say queen wern't a huge influence you don't know what your saying, it's up to us older guys to set them straight. |
| Micrówave 01.05.2009 12:10 |
If you still listen to Iron Maiden, then maybe you shouldn't be making musical observations. You're giving us "old guys" a bad reputation. Death Angel? C'mon dude, grow out of the Satan Is My Savior crap already. It was just a way to sell records and you fell for it. |
| mike hunt 01.05.2009 12:36 |
ha ha, That's a low blow mr. microwave. Iron maiden will always be a part of me, it's what I listened to as a kid along with priest, death angel, slayer and the rest. Oh by the way, sarah brightman also mentioned queen as one of her biggest influence, tori amos is another one. That's what I'm trying to say, even a slow guy like microwave should understand what I'm trying to get at. What's wrong with maiden?....their fom our generation. |
| Holly2003 01.05.2009 12:40 |
fanny biscuits. double post. |
| Holly2003 01.05.2009 12:44 |
Holly2003 wrote:mike hunt wrote: ok, this is a Joke. People who posted above me don't know shit. All the biggest bands of the 80's till today were influenced by queen in one way or another, and no matter what the so called queenmoaners say wont change that. yes, the pop singers were influenced by queen, but so were guns and roses, green day, metallica, def lepperd, van halen, foo fighters/nirvana, motely crew, the cars, tool, dream theater.... Also, early Judas priest, Iron maiden, death angel. Ok, now what!....come on I'm waiting. Queen are one of the few bands that influenced a wide range of music. Black sabbath and Judas priest/Iron maiden were a huge influence to hard rock metal, but queen's influence was much wider. Holly, how old are you?....are you aware of the freddie tribute concert?Freddie Tribute Concert? Wasn't that when a bunch of 'has beens' and 'never was's came out of the woodwork to murder Brian May songs? Anyway. I don't claim that my opinion is correct, only that it's my opinion. I've been a queen fan since around 1979, but I rocked out to BoRap when it first came out: is that old enough for you? And while yor in question-answering mood, maybe you could provide a list of Queen songs covered by decent bands before Freddie died? |
| mike hunt 01.05.2009 12:46 |
holly again showing ingorance. Metallica was in their prime, GNR was in their prime. Lepperd were in their prime, seal and george micheal were in their prime. Bowie, plant, daltry are some of the biggest stars of their generation. How old are you holly? |
| mike hunt 01.05.2009 12:53 |
before freddie died?...why before freddie died?.....the bottom line is that under pressure, stone cold crazy, sheer heart attack, bo rhap (dream theater) live GNR, tool, foo fighters, def lepperd, lol. Sarah brightman (who wants to live forever) liza (champions) celen dion (tsmgo) diana ross (cltcl). their influence is bigger now than it ever was. Soemtimes you don't know what you have till it's gone. |
| Holly2003 01.05.2009 12:59 |
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mike hunt wrote: before freddie died?...why before freddie died?.....the bottom line is that under pressure, stone cold crazy, sheer heart attack, bo rhap (dream theater) live GNR, tool, foo fighters, def lepperd, lol. Sarah brightman (who wants to live forever) liza (champions) celen dion (tsmgo) diana ross (cltcl). their influence is bigger now than it ever was. Soemtimes you don't know what you have till it's gone. Because when Queen were an ongoing band, from 1973 to the mid 1980s, hardly anyone of note said they were influenced by Queen and few if any bands of note covered any of their songs. On the other hand, as I said earlier, Bob Dylan songs have been covered by a huge range of artists, many of them well-respected. Maybe it is the case that "Soemtimes you don't know what you have till it's gone" - in fact, I would probably agree with that to a large extent. However, if you're as old as you say you are, then you're probably aware that Queen were never a very fashionable band among journalists or other musicians and that a lot of their popularity came in the wake of Freddie's much-publicised death. It's good to see bands like Metallica acknowledge Queen as an influence. But then again, I said that earlier, in among all the other err.. "shit" |
| mike hunt 01.05.2009 13:05 |
bob dylan is overall a bigger influence than anyone in pop history, so why keep mentioning him. Nobody besided the beatles were a bigger influence than him. they were all shit?....foo fighters are shit?...tori amos?....dream theater?.....maiden?.....sarah brightman?.....wow. that's a lot of crap. |
| Holly2003 01.05.2009 13:13 |
mike hunt wrote: bob dylan is overall a bigger influence than anyone in pop history, so why keep mentioning him. Nobody besided the beatles were a bigger influence than him. they were all shit?....foo fighters are shit?...tori amos?....dream theater?.....maiden?.....sarah brightman?.....wow. that's a lot of crap. Sorry I don't follow you. |
| Yara 01.05.2009 13:41 |
Hi, Mike. Sorry. I deeply respect your opinion and I'd love to be wrong in this account, so I ask you to please correct me if I'm not getting this straight. I'm a huge fan of Tori Amos, I think she's one of the most interesting artists who came up in the early 1990s and I have never, ever read that Queen was among her biggest influences. I read or watched I don't know how many interviews done by her, and she never mentioned Queen as an infuence. She has been doing covers ever since she showed up and there's no recording of her covering any Queen song. And she covered artists ranging from Alice Cooper and Slayer to Madonna, ABBA and Oasis. As she herself said, though, it was often the case that she'd cover an artist she didn't like just to give herself a challenge and see whether she could make a particular song sound decent to her ears, cause she thought the song had some potential. I don't mean any disrespect, it's just my opinion. I think that, apart from Nirvana, she's the only one among the artists you mentioned that really had something interesting and different to bring to the music world. Don't shoot me! It's just my very personal opinion and taste. :-))) I'd have loved to listen to her covering Queen songs, but it never happened. I hope I'm wrong, really! No need to get worried about my opinion, though! I'm just 18 and, differently from dear users Holly, Micrówave or TQ, I'm not a musician, I never composed anything and I have never been in a band! It's just my way of taking part in a discussion in which all of you who are debating this know much more than me, in all honesty and without putting myself down. I'm here just to have fun and learn, really. My best wishes, Yara |
| the prophetess 01.05.2009 14:27 |
Marcelo_argentina wrote: for example "Street of Dreams" from Chinese Democracy is a very Queenish song...the same for "This love".... Exactly. In fact, "Catcher In The Rye" off Chinese Democracy is one of the Queenest songs on GNR's catalog and Axl invited Brian May to play the solo. Great song! |
| lalaalalaa 01.05.2009 15:49 |
Tommy Shaw of Styx was influenced by Freddie |
| lalaalalaa 01.05.2009 15:50 |
the prophetess wrote:Marcelo_argentina wrote: for example "Street of Dreams" from Chinese Democracy is a very Queenish song...the same for "This love"....Exactly. In fact, "Catcher In The Rye" off Chinese Democracy is one of the Queenest songs on GNR's catalog and Axl invited Brian May to play the solo. Great song! Unfortunately the solo got dropped even though the demo was clearly better than the one on the released album (IMO) |
| A_WintersTale 02.05.2009 09:35 |
This was a nice post but with regard to your question it is really funny how the pages turn. I think that all those artists appreciate nowadays the intelligence in Queen music in contrast to lyrics and music ignorance and sometimes even perversions such as "in da club" or "please don't stop the, please don't stop the, please don't stop the" (lyrically wise) for instance. The world has also changed and being a gay is not something that you should be ashamed of. I am only sorry that Freddie couldn't see his legacy the way it is now. |
| thomasquinn 32989 02.05.2009 11:45 |
Micrówave wrote: Well, that's a pretty broad paintbrush, then, TQ. So does that mean if I wrote a song while I was thinking about hot man-on-man action at Freddie's birthday party with one of the midgets, then I guess I was inspired by Freddie? Actually, I wasn't trying to say that those artists don't "sound" like Freddie. I just think Freddie would dismiss it as rubbish like the rest of us should. Katie Perry? Celine Dion? Give me a break. Influence can be very subtle but decisive. For example: you could be influenced by Debussy in using 7th and 9th chords as stable (consonant) rather than passing chords (dissonant) which is the orthodox view. The music you write with that concept in mind could sound nothing like Debussy's at all, yet his influence would be there. Compare, for instance, Duke Ellington to Debussy; the former was heavily influenced by the latter in his harmonies, but you will agree they sounded very little alike. |
| mike hunt 03.05.2009 01:37 |
Yara wrote: Hi, Mike. Sorry. I deeply respect your opinion and I'd love to be wrong in this account, so I ask you to please correct me if I'm not getting this straight. I'm a huge fan of Tori Amos, I think she's one of the most interesting artists who came up in the early 1990s and I have never, ever read that Queen was among her biggest influences. I read or watched I don't know how many interviews done by her, and she never mentioned Queen as an infuence. She has been doing covers ever since she showed up and there's no recording of her covering any Queen song. And she covered artists ranging from Alice Cooper and Slayer to Madonna, ABBA and Oasis. As she herself said, though, it was often the case that she'd cover an artist she didn't like just to give herself a challenge and see whether she could make a particular song sound decent to her ears, cause she thought the song had some potential. I don't mean any disrespect, it's just my opinion. I think that, apart from Nirvana, she's the only one among the artists you mentioned that really had something interesting and different to bring to the music world. Don't shoot me! It's just my very personal opinion and taste. :-))) I'd have loved to listen to her covering Queen songs, but it never happened. I hope I'm wrong, really! No need to get worried about my opinion, though! I'm just 18 and, differently from dear users Holly, Micrówave or TQ, I'm not a musician, I never composed anything and I have never been in a band! It's just my way of taking part in a discussion in which all of you who are debating this know much more than me, in all honesty and without putting myself down. I'm here just to have fun and learn, really. My best wishes, Yara If you listen to Mr. Zebra there's freddie influence in that song, also, I don't think queen were one of tori all time favorites, but she did mention freddie as one of her favorite singers. Nirvana was one of the most overated crap bands I ever heard. If you think a list of GNR, metallica, stone temple pilots, tool, foo fighters, muse, styks, the cars, sarah brightman, van halen, maiden, priest, arn't interesting musicians your in denial. |
| Winter Land Man 03.05.2009 01:54 |
Queen's influence to do harmonies was The Beach Boys. When Queen released Bohemian Rhapsody, it actually scared Brian Wilson. |
| Winter Land Man 03.05.2009 01:58 |
Marcelo_argentina wrote: Axl Rose is the only one in that list that makes honor to Queen...just because he is a "real" fan as we all are...imo! Gerard Way is better than Axl. Axl Rose sounds like some guy with a big 12 inch shoved it down his throat, to be honest. |
| mike hunt 03.05.2009 04:14 |
axle sucks |
| Raf 03.05.2009 07:12 |
Sweet Insanity wrote:I'm not a big fan of Axl, and he's a big asshole... But he was a GnR member and he came up with Chinese Democracy.Marcelo_argentina wrote: Axl Rose is the only one in that list that makes honor to Queen...just because he is a "real" fan as we all are...imo!Gerard Way is better than Axl. Axl Rose sounds like some guy with a big 12 inch shoved it down his throat, to be honest. Gerard Way is just a whiny emo, and really, you've picked the wrong forum to defend him. |
| JustaThought 03.05.2009 07:46 |
>I'm a huge fan of Tori Amos, I think she's one of the most interesting artists who came up in the early 1990s and I have never, ever read that Queen was among her biggest influences. I read or watched I don't know how many interviews done by her, and she never mentioned Queen as an infuence. < Hi, I'm new....I just wanted to pop in to say that Tori has mentioned Freddie, even going so far as to say she "adores" him. She said in an interview that he even "helped" her write her song "Sugar," from a spiritual place. She was having trouble getting inspired to write, and she "heard" his voice singing to her. Now, I love Tori, but some people think she's a little odd for "hearing" voices giving songs to her. But anyway, that's what she said. And I can see the Freddie influence there, in some of her songs. She even wore sequined jumpsuits on her last tour! If you haven't heard her song "Sugar" I highly recommend the Hard Rock Live version. It's on YouTube. |
| Yara 03.05.2009 08:11 |
Hi, Justathought! Welcome to Queenzone! I hope you're doing fine and you enjoy the website! :-) I think this serves as a reply to dear Mike Hunt too. I'm a huge fan of Tori Amos too. I love her music. I do know the song you're refering to there, but I don't see much influence by Queen. Again, saying that she was inspired by Freddie's voice doesn't mean she was inspired by Queen, the band, and the sound they made - these are very different things. Just like Steve Vai would rank Brian May as his all-time favorite guitar players, but not Queen as his all-time favorite bands. It's admiration from singer to singer, it's quite normal and even trivial, I'd say. Tori said so in regard to singers who are not even good to most of people's standards, and even there, with regard to Freddie, I think she was trying to play the "weird card" of her amusing character, given the fact that he died and so on. So, if Queen's influence on Tori amos is the voice of Freddie inspiring her to make a single song, well, then I think there's no influence at all. Again, just an admiration for one of Queen's members, which is a different thing and all too common. Having Queen as one the biggest influences or favorite acts is another thing alltogether - she didn't by any stretch of imagination, though she admired Freddie; pretty much as Steve Vai admired, among many others, Brian May. It's necessary to separate the very talented members of the band from the total output, I guess. Take care, I wish you the best and, most importantly, have a wondeful sunday!!! :-))) |
| the prophetess 03.05.2009 17:41 |
lalaalalaa wrote:^yeah, I agree. The official song on the released album is an utter mess.the prophetess wrote:Unfortunately the solo got dropped even though the demo was clearly better than the one on the released album (IMO)Marcelo_argentina wrote: for example "Street of Dreams" from Chinese Democracy is a very Queenish song...the same for "This love"....Exactly. In fact, "Catcher In The Rye" off Chinese Democracy is one of the Queenest songs on GNR's catalog and Axl invited Brian May to play the solo. Great song! Another big musician from the 1990s influenced by Queen was Trent Reznor from NIN. He made remixes of Tie Your Mother Down and Stone Cold Crazy. And NIN's cover of Get Down Make Love is not bad eh? |
| Winter Land Man 03.05.2009 17:56 |
Raf wrote:Sweet Insanity wrote:I'm not a big fan of Axl, and he's a big asshole... But he was a GnR member and he came up with Chinese Democracy. Gerard Way is just a whiny emo, and really, you've picked the wrong forum to defend him.Marcelo_argentina wrote: Axl Rose is the only one in that list that makes honor to Queen...just because he is a "real" fan as we all are...imo!Gerard Way is better than Axl. Axl Rose sounds like some guy with a big 12 inch shoved it down his throat, to be honest. The only reason Chinese Democracy has so much publicity, is because it took Axl a hundred years to complete that waste of an album. |
| Raf 03.05.2009 19:48 |
Sweet Insanity wrote:The only reason MCR has so much publicity is because emo crap is the fashion among whiny teenagers who, like you, seem to love making up new problems and whining about them to the whole world rather than just shutting the fuck up and trying to solve some actual problems. Now, in defense of Chinese Democracy, who cares whether it's got lots of publicity or not? I actually didn't like the idea of Axl releasing something under the band's name, after what happened between him and the other guys. When I first heard the album, I thought it sounded nothing like GnR and for that I "disliked" the album. After giving it another chance, I did realise it's a very creative album, with many great songs, with many different songs... Axl and his new band combined many different genres, and it worked very well. Each song sounds very different from the rest of them and very different from what you'd expect from something released as a "Guns'n'Roses" album. And that, Jake, is something you can't say about any MCR album, since pretty much all the songs are the same punk-ish power chords crap with the same whiny voice screaming whiny teeny lyrics. I still dislike Axl a lot as a person, and his voice can be annoying sometimes and Chinese Democracy definitely isn't GnR... But damn, he did manage to make something even better than GnR.Raf wrote:The only reason Chinese Democracy has so much publicity, is because it took Axl a hundred years to complete that waste of an album.Sweet Insanity wrote:I'm not a big fan of Axl, and he's a big asshole... But he was a GnR member and he came up with Chinese Democracy. Gerard Way is just a whiny emo, and really, you've picked the wrong forum to defend him.Marcelo_argentina wrote: Axl Rose is the only one in that list that makes honor to Queen...just because he is a "real" fan as we all are...imo!Gerard Way is better than Axl. Axl Rose sounds like some guy with a big 12 inch shoved it down his throat, to be honest. |
| Winter Land Man 03.05.2009 20:43 |
C'mon, Raf, stop thinking about the teenaged girls that you ask to send you naked photos of themselves, on MSN, and be realistic, 'cause... ... you obviously haven't heard much My Chemical Romance, and Gerard Way doesn't have a whiny voice, Billy Corgan does though, and I think Axl Rose has a husky whiny voice... I should be paid to listen to him sing. How can you like a woman beater, anyways? He beats on women. I don't get the "My Chemical Romance is emo" bullshit, man. I don't hear anything promoting suicide, or seeking attention in the songs. I don't hear Gerard singing about cutting himself, though I imagine Axl has sung about that kind of thing. I hear more 'emo' in Queen, than I do in My Chemical Romance, to be honest. |
| Raf 03.05.2009 22:52 |
Sweet Insanity wrote: C'mon, Raf, stop thinking about the teenaged girls that you ask to send you naked photos of themselves, on MSN, and be realistic, 'cause... ... you obviously haven't heard much My Chemical Romance, and Gerard Way doesn't have a whiny voice, Billy Corgan does though, and I think Axl Rose has a husky whiny voice... I should be paid to listen to him sing. How can you like a woman beater, anyways? He beats on women. I don't get the "My Chemical Romance is emo" bullshit, man. I don't hear anything promoting suicide, or seeking attention in the songs. I don't hear Gerard singing about cutting himself, though I imagine Axl has sung about that kind of thing. I hear more 'emo' in Queen, than I do in My Chemical Romance, to be honest.Are you too dumb to READ? Like I said at least twice on this thread, I DO acknowledge Axl isn't a nice person. I don't support his actions, I don't support him using his former band's name... But he DID make a great album. MCR isn't about attention seeking, and neither are your posts, right? |
| mike hunt 04.05.2009 02:48 |
the prophetess wrote:lalaalalaa wrote:^yeah, I agree. The official song on the released album is an utter mess. Another big musician from the 1990s influenced by Queen was Trent Reznor from NIN. He made remixes of Tie Your Mother Down and Stone Cold Crazy. And NIN's cover of Get Down Make Love is not bad eh?the prophetess wrote:Unfortunately the solo got dropped even though the demo was clearly better than the one on the released album (IMO)Marcelo_argentina wrote: for example "Street of Dreams" from Chinese Democracy is a very Queenish song...the same for "This love"....Exactly. In fact, "Catcher In The Rye" off Chinese Democracy is one of the Queenest songs on GNR's catalog and Axl invited Brian May to play the solo. Great song! trent and NIN's Is Just more proof of my point. Bands like sabbath, priest, maiden influenced pretty much every hard rock metal band, but queen's influence was wider than those bands. When people like pink and timberlake are influenced by you, and then metallica and GNR, NIN and so on mention you, that's pretty impressive. Yara has said none of the bands mentioned have any input to the musical world, but as the names pile up, it's her/him who looks dumb. |
| Winter Land Man 04.05.2009 03:40 |
Raf wrote:Sweet Insanity wrote: C'mon, Raf, stop thinking about the teenaged girls that you ask to send you naked photos of themselves, on MSN, and be realistic, 'cause... ... you obviously haven't heard much My Chemical Romance, and Gerard Way doesn't have a whiny voice, Billy Corgan does though, and I think Axl Rose has a husky whiny voice... I should be paid to listen to him sing. How can you like a woman beater, anyways? He beats on women. I don't get the "My Chemical Romance is emo" bullshit, man. I don't hear anything promoting suicide, or seeking attention in the songs. I don't hear Gerard singing about cutting himself, though I imagine Axl has sung about that kind of thing. I hear more 'emo' in Queen, than I do in My Chemical Romance, to be honest.Are you too dumb to READ? Like I said at least twice on this thread, I DO acknowledge Axl isn't a nice person. I don't support his actions, I don't support him using his former band's name... But he DID make a great album. MCR isn't about attention seeking, and neither are your posts, right? I read EVERYTHING you write *a spooky theremin plays in the background*... and I saw what you wrote. If Axl was a child molester and there was proof via video he had been guilty of things such as that, I guarantee, you would not listen to him. SO, don't say you wouldn't judge him by his actions, because in that case, you would. Let's back up here. I enjoy Guns N Roses, I guess I might be a typical fan, but not the type that rushes out and buys the new releases when they come out. Chinese Democracy? I've heard quite a bit through sources, and it can wait five years or so before I purchase it. But, in my opinion, Axl's voice isn't that much that I care about, though it does have some spark at times, and that's the God honest truth of my opinion. But I don't consider him a genious of any type. Chinese Democracy reminds me of Cosmos on steroids. Both seemingly expected. Axl is not as sophisticated as any members of Queen, or Brian Wilson for that matter, when it comes to composing songs. How is My Chemical Romance, emo? What is emo about them? My Chemical Romance has made three great studio albums, their last, is more Queen-like than anything Guns N Roses has done, particularly the vocal performence (admit it, Gerard might not sound like Freddie, but he sounds like Freddie more than Axl does). The guitar work? Ray Toro is very much influenced by Brian May, just take a listen and you'll see what I mean. And, they are very anti-emo, those boys are. In Gerard's words... "emo is fucking shit" ... it's like people assuming Queen is a gay band... people who don't explore something, don't know shit. |
| Treasure Moment 04.05.2009 07:19 |
The funny thing is that all those artists claiming to be influenced by Queen doesnt sound ONE BIT as them, they simply cant write music at that level, green day, kate perry and pink? hahah what a joke. You can hear a lot more Queen influence in TM than any of those shitty artists. |
| lalaalalaa 04.05.2009 07:42 |
Treasure Moment wrote: The funny thing is that all those artists claiming to be influenced by Queen doesnt sound ONE BIT as them, they simply cant write music at that level, green day, kate perry and pink? hahah what a joke. You can hear a lot more Queen influence in TM than any of those shitty artists. I think the stuff Tommy Shaw wrote in Styx is the closest to sounding like Queen |
| Treasure Moment 04.05.2009 09:35 |
lalaalalaa wrote:Treasure Moment wrote: The funny thing is that all those artists claiming to be influenced by Queen doesnt sound ONE BIT as them, they simply cant write music at that level, green day, kate perry and pink? hahah what a joke. You can hear a lot more Queen influence in TM than any of those shitty artists.I think the stuff Tommy Shaw wrote in Styx is the closest to sounding like Queen I dont know who that is so ill check it out. |
| Holly2003 04.05.2009 12:34 |
mike hunt wrote: Yara has said none of the bands mentioned have any input to the musical world, but as the names pile up, it's her/him who looks dumb. Not really. She's just making a point that's too subtle for you to understand, probably because her vocabulary is wider than yours and doesn't include words like "shit" or "dumb". |
| mike hunt 05.05.2009 03:07 |
Treasure Moment wrote:lalaalalaa wrote:I dont know who that is so ill check it out.Treasure Moment wrote: The funny thing is that all those artists claiming to be influenced by Queen doesnt sound ONE BIT as them, they simply cant write music at that level, green day, kate perry and pink? hahah what a joke. You can hear a lot more Queen influence in TM than any of those shitty artists.I think the stuff Tommy Shaw wrote in Styx is the closest to sounding like Queen you don't know who the styx are?...oh my lord. Queenzone is truly a joke. The cars took some ideas from Queen with the chorus of "my best friends girl" |
| Winter Land Man 05.05.2009 21:56 |
Yeah, Freddie had an awsome set of lungs! A lot of people wonder what the heck his daaaooos were, but of course it was his way of reaching the fans. His voice was super powerful and I think it was a fun way of being interactive with the audience. |
| ParisNair 01.06.2009 09:54 |
demonwolf wrote: totally agree. queen ll is axls favourite record. and in the early nineties he even tried to find a doctor that could save freddie, but it was too late.Where did that come from? |
| Saif 01.06.2009 10:31 |
ParisNair wrote:Yeah, I was wondering too but I just laughed it off.demonwolf wrote: totally agree. queen ll is axls favourite record. and in the early nineties he even tried to find a doctor that could save freddie, but it was too late.Where did that come from? And just for the record, denying that MCR is emo is just like denying Lamb Of God is metalcore. Most Lamb Of God fans don't admit it, but LOG is metalcore bullshit. |
| Wiley 01.06.2009 11:43 |
MCR is emo. Don't care what they say. I've read a few comments from MCR fans saying "it's not emo, it's ART ROCK" (on YouTube, of all places) and I just have to laugh. Don't get me wrong, I have the Black Parade CD and I've seen them live a couple of times. It's a good album and I can definately hear the Queen and Brian May influence in "Welcome to the Black Parade". That's the closest an emo band will get to doing quality music. And "Helena". Man, that's another great song by them. I love it. Still, they are emo. They sport the emo look, they write emo-type lyrics, etc. About Green Day. That's another band playing their style of music to their target audience and just coming up with a great and very ambitious (concept?) album with American Idiot. They are not legendary bands but they are certainly doing more than their peers. For good or worse, those albums are those bands' own Sergeant Pepper's. A few notches above these two I would put The Smashing Pumpkins. Mellon Collie, anyone? |
| Saif 01.06.2009 11:59 |
Wiley wrote: MCR is emo. Don't care what they say. I've read a few comments from MCR fans saying "it's not emo, it's ART ROCK" (on YouTube, of all places) and I just have to laugh. Don't get me wrong, I have the Black Parade CD and I've seen them live a couple of times. It's a good album and I can definately hear the Queen and Brian May influence in "Welcome to the Black Parade". That's the closest an emo band will get to doing quality music. And "Helena". Man, that's another great song by them. I love it. Still, they are emo. They sport the emo look, they write emo-type lyrics, etc. About Green Day. That's another band playing their style of music to their target audience and just coming up with a great and very ambitious (concept?) album with American Idiot. They are not legendary bands but they are certainly doing more than their peers. For good or worse, those albums are those bands' own Sergeant Pepper's. A few notches above these two I would put The Smashing Pumpkins. Mellon Collie, anyone? I agree, Smashing Pumpkins are great and better than both bands combined. Still, metalcore sucks. Bands like Trivium and Killswitch Engage claim to be influenced by Queen and I find hints of it in their melodic interludes and breakdowns but metalcore sucks and is extremely gay(in a bad way). It ain't metal. |
| demonwolf 11.06.2009 08:33 |
ParisNair wrote:demonwolf wrote: totally agree. queen ll is axls favourite record. and in the early nineties he even tried to find a doctor that could save freddie, but it was too late.Where did that come from? from a youtube clip with a guy who worked briefly with guns in the early nineties. i will try to find it again. he speaks about axl being on the phone with brian may and what they talked about. |
| April 11.06.2009 15:51 |
An idea has just occurred to me. Axl Rose might be the one to replace Paul Rodgers. Axl has all new musicians around him. The Queen guys are left just the two of them. Why not team? Great rockers together? At least for a while? |
| Amazon 11.06.2009 16:21 |
April wrote: An idea has just occurred to me. Axl Rose might be the one to replace Paul Rodgers. Axl has all new musicians around him. The Queen guys are left just the two of them. Why not team? Great rockers together? At least for a while? That would be INCREDIBLE!!!!! I LOVE Axl, and if he were to team up with Brian and Roger, it would be a dream come true for me! [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] |