QueenZone discussion #1150083

Micrówave wrote: I provided that link for reference, I must agree with David Jones...  go to a music store if you can find one that can get this guitar.  Squiers are all the same size, so you don't have to worry about differences there.  You get a cheaper price on line, but much better service at the time of purchase and in the future.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

  Micrówave wrote: I provided that link for reference, I must agree with David Jones...  go to a music store if you can find one that can get this guitar.  Squiers are all the same size, so you don't have to worry about differences there.  You get a cheaper price on line, but much better service at the time of purchase and in the future.

When I read your first post, I wasn't sure if you were being serious or sarcastic. Hmm. Wonder what made me question that. :-) Thank you for the info. I went to the site you posted and read the two reviews. I don't know what one comment means or if it really matters... maybe you can explain? It reads - "The one, and only one negative about this guitar is that there is no tone knob. It definitely needs one for leads as the humbucker is much more twangy and crisp than you would think."

Micrówave wrote: The Squier Tele doesn't need a tone knob.  It is twangy and crisp... it's a humbucker.  If you're getting to the point where you have to adjust your tone, beyond using the selector switch, then you are ready to move onto a pro guitar.  I did not find it too twangy for leads, but then I don't have overdrive, distortion, flange, phaser, and fifteen other pedals plugged in at once either.  It is a starter guitar.  A great lead player is going to go out there with a Squier.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

Micrówave wrote: I provided that link for reference, I must agree with David Jones...  go to a music store if you can find one that can get this guitar.  Squiers are all the same size, so you don't have to worry about differences there.  You get a cheaper price on line, but much better service at the time of purchase and in the future.

When I read your first post, I wasn't sure if you were being serious or sarcastic. Hmm. Wonder what made me question that. :-) Thank you for the info. I went to the site you posted and read the two reviews. I don't know what one comment means or if it really matters... maybe you can explain? It reads - "The one, and only one negative about this guitar is that there is no tone knob. It definitely needs one for leads as the humbucker is much more twangy and crisp than you would think."

Review from Harmony-Central.  Looks a bit Stratty but that as near as you get.  The ply wood body is totaly dead. volume and tone control make more noise than the strings If you can get one for #40.00 then the price is about right otherwise put a few more on a Squire Strat there better value.

Another Review from Harmony-Central. It is the first guitar I owned and will be the first one to be smashed on stage. Stay in tune...ha thats funny. Dont think about using the whammy bar, big mistake. Can not keep this guitar in tune for an entire song. Sounds good for blues anything else dont think about it.

Micrówave wrote: I had a (K)Raptor.  Made in vietnam.  Not attacking the above poster^, just warning anybody who thinks about buying the Raptor model guitar.

Review from Harmony-Central.  Looks a bit Stratty but that as near as you get.  The ply wood body is totaly dead. volume and tone control make more noise than the strings If you can get one for #40.00 then the price is about right otherwise put a few more on a Squire Strat there better value.

Another Review from Harmony-Central. It is the first guitar I owned and will be the first one to be smashed on stage. Stay in tune...ha thats funny. Dont think about using the whammy bar, big mistake. Can not keep this guitar in tune for an entire song. Sounds good for blues anything else dont think about it.

Micrówave wrote: The guitar seems ok, but just so you know about the items that come with it.  Guitar packages are designed for parents who think this is all they'll need to buy their spoiled little one.  Only then, have they sunken their claws into you... Includes: Amplifier - Will be suitable for a bedroom, but any other use (rehearsal, live, etc.) would require a larger amp I say that because you'll be getting a 20 pound paper weight.  If you were to buy a small combo amp, it would be quite flexable and give years of use.  Plus you'd get much better re-sale value if you were looking to upgrade.  No, you can't Mic a 5 Watt amp and sound good. Guitar Stand - Suitable, but easily knocked over.  I would suggest a wall mount.  $10 Instructional DVD - worthless, get lessons.  Might teach you to re-string and play a couple of chords, but so can my Aunt Rose. Cable - cheap, you'll be replacing it soon... They say an instrument is only as good as the cable that's plugged into it.  Worth an extra $10-15 to buy a good premium cable.  Most have lifetime warranties. Electronic Tuner - Cheap, you'll be replacing it soon... Again, you're going to get a bottom of the barrel Quik Tune.  It's not backlit, only tunes a certain way, doesn't offer special settings, eats 9V batteries, etc. Gig Bag - Gonna be a while until you really need one of these.  Unless you plan on just carrying it around just because you have a guitar.   Again, if re-sale is a possibility, a hard shell case is better.  Even for a $200 guitar.  Gator (brand) makes a pretty decent one for $50, Squier's is around $60.  I'd get the matching case. Guitar Strap - Cheap and (ahem?) unstylish.  Trust me.  I gave my 13 year old daughter the standard black strap and she just looked at me and asked if I was "for real".  Now she has a checkerboard one, one with cherries on it, and a purple lightning bolt one.  They're like shoes with girls. Pick Sampler - If I knew your address, I'd send you 5 different picks.  (No, I don't want your address, I'm just saying that)  Most music stores have picks with their logos on them for free.  Come to a PT show here in Dallas and I'll give you picks AND a free T-Shirt.  And again, these are like jewelry for girls.  They have to look good, too.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:   ThomasQuinn wrote:  "Now that's just a matter of opinion. If you play rockabilly, sure. If you play metal, not a chance. Every guitarist needs to find the guitar (and amp) to go with their own playing and preferred sound. Most guitars that are well constructed are quite suitable for learning to play, but the closer the sound is to what the guitarist in question needs, the longer it'll take before he/she outgrows his/her first guitar." === Think "Renegade" by Styx. She wants to play the guitar solo in that.She talks about it all the time. I'm guessing that's the 'sound' she wants.  

  ThomasQuinn wrote:  

  magicalfreddiemercury wrote:   ThomasQuinn wrote:  "Now that's just a matter of opinion. If you play rockabilly, sure. If you play metal, not a chance. Every guitarist needs to find the guitar (and amp) to go with their own playing and preferred sound. Most guitars that are well constructed are quite suitable for learning to play, but the closer the sound is to what the guitarist in question needs, the longer it'll take before he/she outgrows his/her first guitar." === Think "Renegade" by Styx. She wants to play the guitar solo in that.She talks about it all the time. I'm guessing that's the 'sound' she wants.    

Tommy Shaw played the solo on that song, so that'd be a Les Paul-type guitar. However, more important than even the guitar in getting such a sound is an overdrive/distortion effect. The type built into amplifiers won't do for this kind of work. Shaw used a Boss OD-3, which costs around $80,-. A cheaper Boss DS-1 would make her just as happy, though, I think. If you try playing this kind of rock on a stratocaster or other type of guitar that has single-coil pick-ups, you'd get enormous amounts of hiss, so I couldn't recommend buying a Strat-type if your daughter wants to play this kind of music, unless you're willing to buy her a noise gate pedal to go with it.

  ThomasQuinn wrote: If she seriously wants to learn to play the guitar well, she'll need to start taking lessons in both theory and guitar technique, and to take them quite seriously. As far as gear is concerned, for someone learning to play the most important thing is to buy an amplifier that sounds good. I suggest, for the best compromise between budget, sound quality and your and your neighbors ears, an amp between 15-30 watts. Have the vendor demonstrate the guitar you are going to buy to a number of amps, and choose the one you like best. Things to look for: - Equalizer must be three band (a separate knob for low, mid and high), - There must be a clean and an overdrive (also called 'dirty' or 'crunch' on some amps), noticeable by a "gain" or "crunch" know. - I'd give preference to an amp that also has a Reverb included. The most ideal scenario for the guitar if you are going to use it for serious study is to use a guitar that has long sustain (meaning the time a sound is audible is quite long), and preferably at least one humbucker and one single coil pick-up. link The ones on the outside are humbuckers, the one in the middle is a single coil. I can highly recommend buying a Yamaha guitar, and most guitar teachers I know give preference to them for student guitars.

Poo, again wrote: Get her the cheapest guitar you can find. If she can make it sound good, then you'll know she's got at least some talent.