Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 14:22 |
with all the talk about how iran is a "terrorist" country and all people forget that good things came out of iran like Freddie |
pittrek 23.12.2007 14:29 |
Fuck off ! Farrokh Bulsara was born on Zanzibar. |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 14:44 |
pittrek wrote: Fuck off ! Farrokh Bulsara was born on Zanzibar.for an example,if an african is born in germany is he white and german? no you stupid fuck! why dont you check freddies interviews where he says he is iranian? also check brians site here and READ it for yourself stupid brainless moron! i know you probably dont know much about Queen and its new for you but you might wanna check out this interview with freddie where he says he is persian=iranian link also check out brians site and read the news about hiphop being banned in iran and why the only exception they have there being legal is Queens music because freddie was iranian. link oh and btw Farrokh is an iranian name you stupid idiot! just to further make an ass out of you check where freddies original name is from! link |
kdj2hot 23.12.2007 14:49 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Your opinions on Freddie's origin is about as good as that "music" (???) you keep spamming the board trying to get people to listen to. Iran is a country, Freddie wasn't born in Iran so to say he's the greatest Iranian is stupid. In reference to the Brian May site update, it doesn't say he's Iranian, only that they didn't ban Queen Greatest Hits because he was of Iranian descent, big difference. You wouldn't say Martin Luther King was the greatest African who ever lived because he wasn't African numb nuts. WOuld you call someone who's ancestors are from Germany (but was born in the USA and famil;y have been therefor generations) the greatest Geerman to ever lived. No, I hope you'rre capable of undeerstanding this.pittrek wrote: Fuck off ! Farrokh Bulsara was born on Zanzibar.if an african is born in germany is he white and german? no you stupid fuck! why dont you check freddies interviews where he says he is iranian? also check brians site here and READ it for yourself stupid brainless moron! i know you probably dont know much about Queen and its new for you but you might wanna check out this interview with freddie where he says he is persian=iranian link also check out brians site and read the news about hiphop being banned in iran and why the only exception they have there being legal is Queens music because freddie was iranian. link oh and btw Farrokh is an iranian name you stupid idiot! |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 14:52 |
kdj2hot wrote:so you mean a japanease guy born in sweden is swedish?Treasure Moment wrote:Your opinions on Freddie's origin is about as good as that "music" (???) you keep spamming the board trying to get people to listen to. Iran is a country, Freddie wasn't born in Iran so to say he's the greatest Iranian is stupid. In reference to the Brian May site update, it doesn't say he's Iranian, only that they didn't ban Queen Greatest Hits because he was of Iranian descent, big difference. You wouldn't say Martin Luther King was the greatest African who ever lived because he wasn't African numb nuts. WOuld you call someone who's ancestors are from Germany (but was born in the USA and famil;y have been therefor generations) the greatest Geerman to ever lived. No, I hope you'rre capable of undeerstanding this.pittrek wrote: Fuck off ! Farrokh Bulsara was born on Zanzibar.if an african is born in germany is he white and german? no you stupid fuck! why dont you check freddies interviews where he says he is iranian? also check brians site here and READ it for yourself stupid brainless moron! i know you probably dont know much about Queen and its new for you but you might wanna check out this interview with freddie where he says he is persian=iranian link also check out brians site and read the news about hiphop being banned in iran and why the only exception they have there being legal is Queens music because freddie was iranian. link oh and btw Farrokh is an iranian name you stupid idiot! if you think that then you are delusional! it doesnt matter if that jap guy lived in sweden his ENTIRE life, they would NEVER see him a swede. "Your opinions on Freddie's origin" its not an opinion, its a FACT! get it through your head! you are telling me that when freddie himself says he is iranian YOU are going to tell him he isnt? :D his original name is iranian, his parents are too, why are you denying facts? |
John S Stuart 23.12.2007 15:31 |
First: there are two types of Iranians. Those connected to Iran geographically and those connected to Iran ideologically. As an example, the same can be said of the Jewish peoples. There are those who are geographically 'Jewish' (of whatever religious persuasion) and those who are ideologically 'jewish' (of whatever race or nationality). I guess (in a world-wide context) finding a 'Jerusalem Jew' (ie: tied to both ideology and geography) would be quite rare. (I know this has been simplified - but it makes the point). Second: Freddie was NOT an Iranian in either sense. Ideolgically, his lifestyle alone (apart from his song lyrics) demonstrate that he was diametrically opposed to those of the stereotypical Muslim Sharia persuasion. If it boiled down to a 'war of ideas', being a bohemian artist, I believe Freddie would support the 'freedom of ideas' school, rather than the enforced 'terrorist' brigade. Geographically; Freddie was actually born in Zanzibar - which although it is true to say was once governed under Iranian rule - was never in itself Iranian. (This is like saying Brian May is really Italian - as london was once dominated by Roman law, or that the French are really German because they were once under Nazi occupation). Freddie was born into a British subject middle class family, schooled in India, then travelled to England. Freddie was as much an Iranian as Borat was Kazakhstani. |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 15:40 |
John S Stuart wrote: First: there are two types of Iranians. Those connected to Iran geographically and those connected to Iran ideologically. As an example, the same can be said of the Jewish peoples. There are those who are geographically 'Jewish' (of whatever religious persuasion) and those who are ideologically 'jewish' (of whatever race or nationality). I guess (in a world-wide context) finding a 'Jerusalem Jew' (ie: tied to both ideology and geography) would be quite rare. (I know this has been simplified - but it makes the point). Second: Freddie was NOT an Iranian in either sense. Ideolgically, his lifestyle alone (apart from his song lyrics) demonstrate that he was diametrically opposed to those of the stereotypical Muslim Sharia persuasion. If it boiled down to a 'war of ideas', being a bohemian artist, I believe Freddie would support the 'freedom of ideas' school, rather than the enforced 'terrorist' brigade. Geographically; Freddie was actually born in Zanzibar - which although it is true to say was once governed under Iranian rule - was never in itself Iranian. (This is like saying Brian May is really Italian - as london was once dominated by Roman law, or that the French are really German because they were once under Nazi occupation). Freddie was born into a British subject middle class family, schooled in India, then travelled to England. Freddie was as much an Iranian as Borat was Kazakhstani.in that sense no one is from any country, everyone is from earth right? you already know the facts, his name was iranian, his parents were, he says it in interviews etc. btw you think somehow that you have to follow the religious laws in iran to be iranian? lol thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard!! people are individuals, there are all sorts of iranians just like there are all sorts of people in every country, they are INDIVIDUALS who are different and have different views on things. you think all iranians are muslims or follow it? there are MANY iranians who dont even believe in religion, you are very narrow minded. freddies roots are in iran and he is genetically an iranian and thats a fact. |
brian-harold-may 26643 23.12.2007 16:03 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Genetically Iranian? I'm sorry, but hwo can someone be Gentetically Iranian?John S Stuart wrote: First: there are two types of Iranians. Those connected to Iran geographically and those connected to Iran ideologically. As an example, the same can be said of the Jewish peoples. There are those who are geographically 'Jewish' (of whatever religious persuasion) and those who are ideologically 'jewish' (of whatever race or nationality). I guess (in a world-wide context) finding a 'Jerusalem Jew' (ie: tied to both ideology and geography) would be quite rare. (I know this has been simplified - but it makes the point). Second: Freddie was NOT an Iranian in either sense. Ideolgically, his lifestyle alone (apart from his song lyrics) demonstrate that he was diametrically opposed to those of the stereotypical Muslim Sharia persuasion. If it boiled down to a 'war of ideas', being a bohemian artist, I believe Freddie would support the 'freedom of ideas' school, rather than the enforced 'terrorist' brigade. Geographically; Freddie was actually born in Zanzibar - which although it is true to say was once governed under Iranian rule - was never in itself Iranian. (This is like saying Brian May is really Italian - as london was once dominated by Roman law, or that the French are really German because they were once under Nazi occupation). Freddie was born into a British subject middle class family, schooled in India, then travelled to England. Freddie was as much an Iranian as Borat was Kazakhstani.in that sense no one is from any country, everyone is from earth right? you already know the facts, his name was iranian, his parents were, he says it in interviews etc. btw you think somehow that you have to follow the religious laws in iran to be iranian? lol thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard!! people are individuals, there are all sorts of iranians just like there are all sorts of people in every country, they are INDIVIDUALS who are different and have different views on things. you think all iranians are muslims or follow it? there are MANY iranians who dont even believe in religion, you are very narrow minded. freddies roots are in iran and he is genetically an iranian and thats a fact. No was has an Iranian Gene. Stop stating things as facts when they are not only opinions, but in this case, factually false. |
Leaky Luke 23.12.2007 16:08 |
so you mean a japanease guy born in sweden is swedish? He would have a Swedish passport if he would stay in Sweden. So yes that would mean he is Swedish with most likely Japanese blood in him. My parents were born in Russia and I was born in the Netherlands.. that makes me 100% Dutch cause I was raised here with no Russian influences. |
QueenMercury46 23.12.2007 16:10 |
The almighty Treasure Moment's thoughts are NEVER opinions, only FACTS and that's a FACT. Do not upset the royal highness Treasure Moment. |
Gratzi 23.12.2007 16:18 |
Leaky Luke wrote: so you mean a japanease guy born in sweden is swedish?Only if Sweden has ius soli. (does it?) In this case he would be a Swedish citizen of Japanese origins. He might as well have Japanese citizenship if Japan has ius sanguinis. (does it?) Now then, you may get on debating Freddie's case. |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 16:22 |
<font color="sky blue">QueenMercury46 wrote: The almighty Treasure Moment's thoughts are NEVER opinions, only FACTS and that's a FACT. Do not upset the royal highness Treasure Moment.couldnt have said it better myself :D |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 16:23 |
Brian-Harold-May wrote:in that case the black people and white are gentically exactly the same, thats why they look the same i guess....Treasure Moment wrote:Genetically Iranian? I'm sorry, but hwo can someone be Gentetically Iranian? No was has an Iranian Gene. Stop stating things as facts when they are not only opinions, but in this case, factually false.John S Stuart wrote: First: there are two types of Iranians. Those connected to Iran geographically and those connected to Iran ideologically. As an example, the same can be said of the Jewish peoples. There are those who are geographically 'Jewish' (of whatever religious persuasion) and those who are ideologically 'jewish' (of whatever race or nationality). I guess (in a world-wide context) finding a 'Jerusalem Jew' (ie: tied to both ideology and geography) would be quite rare. (I know this has been simplified - but it makes the point). Second: Freddie was NOT an Iranian in either sense. Ideolgically, his lifestyle alone (apart from his song lyrics) demonstrate that he was diametrically opposed to those of the stereotypical Muslim Sharia persuasion. If it boiled down to a 'war of ideas', being a bohemian artist, I believe Freddie would support the 'freedom of ideas' school, rather than the enforced 'terrorist' brigade. Geographically; Freddie was actually born in Zanzibar - which although it is true to say was once governed under Iranian rule - was never in itself Iranian. (This is like saying Brian May is really Italian - as london was once dominated by Roman law, or that the French are really German because they were once under Nazi occupation). Freddie was born into a British subject middle class family, schooled in India, then travelled to England. Freddie was as much an Iranian as Borat was Kazakhstani.in that sense no one is from any country, everyone is from earth right? you already know the facts, his name was iranian, his parents were, he says it in interviews etc. btw you think somehow that you have to follow the religious laws in iran to be iranian? lol thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard!! people are individuals, there are all sorts of iranians just like there are all sorts of people in every country, they are INDIVIDUALS who are different and have different views on things. you think all iranians are muslims or follow it? there are MANY iranians who dont even believe in religion, you are very narrow minded. freddies roots are in iran and he is genetically an iranian and thats a fact. stop living in denial,ive stated all the facts |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 16:24 |
Leaky Luke wrote: so you mean a japanease guy born in sweden is swedish? He would have a Swedish passport if he would stay in Sweden. So yes that would mean he is Swedish with most likely Japanese blood in him. My parents were born in Russia and I was born in the Netherlands.. that makes me 100% Dutch cause I was raised here with no Russian influences.that theory doesnt work, if so then a black man could be german for example and thats just silly, its genetic! certain people belong to certain genetics |
GiantSpider 23.12.2007 16:26 |
I'm waiting for Treasure Moment to say "If a dog's born in a stable does that make it a horse?" |
Gratzi 23.12.2007 16:27 |
Say TM, you happen to be Swedish... Could you help a stupid sheep (moi) and tell me if Sweden has ius soli... Please Mr Treasure Moment sir... |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 16:30 |
GiantSpider wrote: I'm waiting for Treasure Moment to say "If a dog's born in a stable does that make it a horse?"yeah lol, by the logic of these comments people have said no one is from any country, we are all from earth and there is no such thing as countries or different genetically expressed humans, we are all from earth and all are the same, japanease and the black people are the same, an arab is like a white man :D |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 16:34 |
<font color=gray>Gratzi wrote: Say TM, you happen to be Swedish... Could you help a stupid sheep (moi) and tell me if Sweden has ius solis... Please Mr Treasure Moment sir...im not swedish, whats ius solis? |
brian-harold-may 26643 23.12.2007 16:37 |
Treasure Moment wrote:No, But white people aren't genetically the same, an example is me and a friend, i was born here, as where my family for generations back. as was he, et he has darker skin than mine and darker hair.Brian-Harold-May wrote:in that case the black people and white are gentically exactly the same, thats why they look the same i guess.... stop living in denial,ive stated all the factsTreasure Moment wrote:Genetically Iranian? I'm sorry, but hwo can someone be Gentetically Iranian? No was has an Iranian Gene. Stop stating things as facts when they are not only opinions, but in this case, factually false.John S Stuart wrote: First: there are two types of Iranians. Those connected to Iran geographically and those connected to Iran ideologically. As an example, the same can be said of the Jewish peoples. There are those who are geographically 'Jewish' (of whatever religious persuasion) and those who are ideologically 'jewish' (of whatever race or nationality). I guess (in a world-wide context) finding a 'Jerusalem Jew' (ie: tied to both ideology and geography) would be quite rare. (I know this has been simplified - but it makes the point). Second: Freddie was NOT an Iranian in either sense. Ideolgically, his lifestyle alone (apart from his song lyrics) demonstrate that he was diametrically opposed to those of the stereotypical Muslim Sharia persuasion. If it boiled down to a 'war of ideas', being a bohemian artist, I believe Freddie would support the 'freedom of ideas' school, rather than the enforced 'terrorist' brigade. Geographically; Freddie was actually born in Zanzibar - which although it is true to say was once governed under Iranian rule - was never in itself Iranian. (This is like saying Brian May is really Italian - as london was once dominated by Roman law, or that the French are really German because they were once under Nazi occupation). Freddie was born into a British subject middle class family, schooled in India, then travelled to England. Freddie was as much an Iranian as Borat was Kazakhstani.in that sense no one is from any country, everyone is from earth right? you already know the facts, his name was iranian, his parents were, he says it in interviews etc. btw you think somehow that you have to follow the religious laws in iran to be iranian? lol thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard!! people are individuals, there are all sorts of iranians just like there are all sorts of people in every country, they are INDIVIDUALS who are different and have different views on things. you think all iranians are muslims or follow it? there are MANY iranians who dont even believe in religion, you are very narrow minded. freddies roots are in iran and he is genetically an iranian and thats a fact. and black people, some black people are darker than others. also, if you are black or white, if you are born in england, regardless where your parents are born, you recieve an english passport (I Think!!). Im not saying its right, but if youu want to go by facts then thats your choice, just dont pick and choose, or make them up. For the record, this doesnt reflect my opinion. |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 16:44 |
Brian-Harold-May wrote:people have origins you know, a jap guy is jap both by genetics and location, its his roots, everyone has rootsTreasure Moment wrote:No, But white people aren't genetically the same, an example is me and a friend, i was born here, as where my family for generations back. as was he, et he has darker skin than mine and darker hair. and black people, some black people are darker than others. also, if you are black or white, if you are born in england, regardless where your parents are born, you recieve an english passport (I Think!!). Im not saying its right, but if youu want to go by facts then thats your choice, just dont pick and choose, or make them up. For the record, this doesnt reflect my opinion.Brian-Harold-May wrote:in that case the black people and white are gentically exactly the same, thats why they look the same i guess.... stop living in denial,ive stated all the factsTreasure Moment wrote:Genetically Iranian? I'm sorry, but hwo can someone be Gentetically Iranian? No was has an Iranian Gene. Stop stating things as facts when they are not only opinions, but in this case, factually false.John S Stuart wrote: First: there are two types of Iranians. Those connected to Iran geographically and those connected to Iran ideologically. As an example, the same can be said of the Jewish peoples. There are those who are geographically 'Jewish' (of whatever religious persuasion) and those who are ideologically 'jewish' (of whatever race or nationality). I guess (in a world-wide context) finding a 'Jerusalem Jew' (ie: tied to both ideology and geography) would be quite rare. (I know this has been simplified - but it makes the point). Second: Freddie was NOT an Iranian in either sense. Ideolgically, his lifestyle alone (apart from his song lyrics) demonstrate that he was diametrically opposed to those of the stereotypical Muslim Sharia persuasion. If it boiled down to a 'war of ideas', being a bohemian artist, I believe Freddie would support the 'freedom of ideas' school, rather than the enforced 'terrorist' brigade. Geographically; Freddie was actually born in Zanzibar - which although it is true to say was once governed under Iranian rule - was never in itself Iranian. (This is like saying Brian May is really Italian - as london was once dominated by Roman law, or that the French are really German because they were once under Nazi occupation). Freddie was born into a British subject middle class family, schooled in India, then travelled to England. Freddie was as much an Iranian as Borat was Kazakhstani.in that sense no one is from any country, everyone is from earth right? you already know the facts, his name was iranian, his parents were, he says it in interviews etc. btw you think somehow that you have to follow the religious laws in iran to be iranian? lol thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard!! people are individuals, there are all sorts of iranians just like there are all sorts of people in every country, they are INDIVIDUALS who are different and have different views on things. you think all iranians are muslims or follow it? there are MANY iranians who dont even believe in religion, you are very narrow minded. freddies roots are in iran and he is genetically an iranian and thats a fact. freddies roots were iranian, he was iranian and said it himself, his name was iranian, his parents were iranian and you are trying to tell him he isnt? its like i would come and deny that you are from wherever you are. there are different types of people, black,arabs,white,persian etc and that cant be denied. just because you live in a different country doesnt make you someone that is from that country, it has more to do with g |
Gratzi 23.12.2007 17:00 |
Treasure Moment wrote: im not swedishAwww :( *Swedes party in the background* whats ius solis?Well, jus soli or ius soli (the correct Latin term) is a person's right to have a country's citizenship if he/she is born there, and the parents are not that country's citizens. Sheesh! you were supposed to know everything. I'm disappointed in you. |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 17:40 |
<font color=gray>Gratzi wrote:i never claimed to know everything :)Treasure Moment wrote: im not swedishAwww :( *Swedes party in the background*whats ius solis?Well, jus soli or ius soli (the correct Latin term) is a person's right to have a country's citizenship if he/she is born there, and the parents are not that country's citizens. Sheesh! you were supposed to know everything. I'm disappointed in you. |
kagezan1313 23.12.2007 17:42 |
HAHAHAHAHA! You're all so very entertaining. Firstly, yes Freddie was born in Zanzibar, so on paper, he was Tanzanian. Secondly, his parents and people were Parsees, a group of Persians who emigrated from what is NOW Iran more than 1000 years ago to INDIA. So now we have to argue about the length of time we believe it takes to naturalize a people to their new chosen home. American Indians are descended from Siberian Mongols who crossed the Bering Straight some 40,000 years ago, but an idiot could argue that they are still Siberian, even though the country didn't have a name back then. But by that rationale, we're all African, because human beings evolved around Ethiopia before roaming the planet, settling down and having the elements and the level of UV exposure gradually change their facial features and skin tones. I think in the end though, if you asked Freddie, he'd whip out his British passport, flash it at you, and then tell you to fuck off. |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 17:50 |
kagezan1313 wrote: HAHAHAHAHA! You're all so very entertaining. Firstly, yes Freddie was born in Zanzibar, so on paper, he was Tanzanian. Secondly, his parents and people were Parsees, a group of Persians who emigrated from what is NOW Iran more than 1000 years ago to INDIA. So now we have to argue about the length of time we believe it takes to naturalize a people to their new chosen home. American Indians are descended from Siberian Mongols who crossed the Bering Straight some 40,000 years ago, but an idiot could argue that they are still Siberian, even though the country didn't have a name back then. But by that rationale, we're all African, because human beings evolved around Ethiopia before roaming the planet, settling down and having the elements and the level of UV exposure gradually change their facial features and skin tones. I think in the end though, if you asked Freddie, he'd whip out his British passport, flash it at you, and then tell you to fuck off.thats why he says he is persian in the interview huh? stupid fuck! did you read all the facts i presented or are you too stupid? |
Phill the Thrill 23.12.2007 18:24 |
Treasure Moment wrote:wait...black people can't be german? Than what about my Black skinned german sister-in-law? She was born in germany, her parents were born in Germany, went to german school...speak german..and are german citizens....but she doesnt exist?Leaky Luke wrote: so you mean a japanease guy born in sweden is swedish? He would have a Swedish passport if he would stay in Sweden. So yes that would mean he is Swedish with most likely Japanese blood in him. My parents were born in Russia and I was born in the Netherlands.. that makes me 100% Dutch cause I was raised here with no Russian influences.that theory doesnt work, if so then a black man could be german for example and thats just silly, its genetic! certain people belong to certain genetics |
Mr Faron Hyte 23.12.2007 19:02 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Persian and Iranian are not the same thing. Persian is an ethnicity. Iranian is a nationality. To be an Iranian, one must be born in Iran or have been naturalized. Freddie Mercury never set foot in Iran, let alone was born there or held Iranian citizenship. If you can post one interview where Freddie claimed he was Iranian, I will personally write a check in the amount of $1000 US to your shitty band. But you can't do it, because he never said it and you're too stupidly pig-headed to (a) admit you don't know what you're talking about and (b) concede that it is, in fact, you who is the stupid fuck. Educate yourself, you idiot!kagezan1313 wrote: HAHAHAHAHA! You're all so very entertaining. Firstly, yes Freddie was born in Zanzibar, so on paper, he was Tanzanian. Secondly, his parents and people were Parsees, a group of Persians who emigrated from what is NOW Iran more than 1000 years ago to INDIA. So now we have to argue about the length of time we believe it takes to naturalize a people to their new chosen home. American Indians are descended from Siberian Mongols who crossed the Bering Straight some 40,000 years ago, but an idiot could argue that they are still Siberian, even though the country didn't have a name back then. But by that rationale, we're all African, because human beings evolved around Ethiopia before roaming the planet, settling down and having the elements and the level of UV exposure gradually change their facial features and skin tones. I think in the end though, if you asked Freddie, he'd whip out his British passport, flash it at you, and then tell you to fuck off.thats why he says he is persian in the interview huh? stupid fuck! did you read all the facts i presented or are you too stupid? |
groovydave84 23.12.2007 19:05 |
OK, I haven't posted here since not long after the QueenRocker migration (I couldn't even tell you how many years that makes it) but I do still lurk here occasionally and I have made a new account just to say that "the reason the guy is from japan is because the people with similar genetics to him are gathered in a place called japan." is the funniest sentence I have heard in quite a while. |
bas asselbergs 23.12.2007 19:07 |
I don't care where he came from. Or his parents. All i care for is that he was a brilliant composer, a never equalled singer, performer and entertainer. That he has given the world an enormous treasure of still inspiring music. That he was a sensitive, intelligent, warm-hearted caring and giving person. He could have been from Timboektoe, Swahili or Belgium, i wouldn't make it such a big issue. All the swearing and ugly things and faul language that you so-called "Queen-fans" use in this topic, would make him very sad if he were to read it. He wouldn't want people like you to be his fans. Freddie was a wise man. He stood for quality. And you lot....is this the very best that you can come up with? It is such a shame, that you lower yourselves to this absolute lowest of lowest levels that a human being can find himself on.... No, i know for a fact that Freddie would be taking distance from people like you. How dare you call yourselves a Queen-fan? Writing about this, and like this, is way too uncivilised, stupid and not Queen-worthy at all. And think about it....what would it bring to you, or what would it cost you, if Freddie was from Zanzibar? What is the point? What do you gain from it, defending your false vision and narrow-minded ideas and aggressive unjust defences? Nothing! It doesn't matter where Freddie came from. All that matters is his music. Get a life. And leave this site and forum. You do NOT belong here. |
Miss Multiples aka colfarrell1 23.12.2007 19:10 |
Freddie's parents moved to Zanzibar from India..Freddie was born in Zanzibar..His parents were of Parsee (Persian) origin..Persia is now what he call Iran. |
Mr Faron Hyte 23.12.2007 19:11 |
bas asselbergs wrote: All the swearing and ugly things and faul language that you so-called "Queen-fans" use in this topic, would make him very sad if he were to read it.Okay, first, its "foul" language, and second, Freddie swore like a sailor. |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 19:17 |
Mr Faron Hyte wrote:you fucking idiot, didnt you see all the things ive posted? they guys NAME was iranian, his parents, the way he fucking looked!Treasure Moment wrote:Persian and Iranian are not the same thing. Persian is an ethnicity. Iranian is a nationality. To be an Iranian, one must be born in Iran or have been naturalized. Freddie Mercury never set foot in Iran, let alone was born there or held Iranian citizenship. If you can post one interview where Freddie claimed he was Iranian, I will personally write a check in the amount of $1000 US to your shitty band. But you can't do it, because he never said it and you're too stupidly pig-headed to (a) admit you don't know what you're talking about and (b) concede that it is, in fact, you who is the stupid fuck. Educate yourself, you idiot!kagezan1313 wrote: HAHAHAHAHA! You're all so very entertaining. Firstly, yes Freddie was born in Zanzibar, so on paper, he was Tanzanian. Secondly, his parents and people were Parsees, a group of Persians who emigrated from what is NOW Iran more than 1000 years ago to INDIA. So now we have to argue about the length of time we believe it takes to naturalize a people to their new chosen home. American Indians are descended from Siberian Mongols who crossed the Bering Straight some 40,000 years ago, but an idiot could argue that they are still Siberian, even though the country didn't have a name back then. But by that rationale, we're all African, because human beings evolved around Ethiopia before roaming the planet, settling down and having the elements and the level of UV exposure gradually change their facial features and skin tones. I think in the end though, if you asked Freddie, he'd whip out his British passport, flash it at you, and then tell you to fuck off.thats why he says he is persian in the interview huh? stupid fuck! did you read all the facts i presented or are you too stupid? Per·sian /'p?r??n, -??n/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pur-zhuhn, -shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1. of or pertaining to ancient and recent Persia (now Iran), its people, or their language. –noun 2. a member of the native peoples of Iran, descended in part from the ancient Iranians. 3. a citizen of ancient Persia. 4. an Iranian language, the principal language of Iran and western Afghanistan, in its historical and modern forms. Compare Old Persian, Pahlavi, Farsi. |
deleted user 23.12.2007 20:12 |
kagezan1313 wrote: I think in the end though, if you asked Freddie, he'd whip out his British passport, flash it at you, and then tell you to fuck off.I agree 150% with this statement. |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 20:18 |
<font color=red>Valentine wrote:and you are 150% stupid! also check out the interview and hear if he says he is britishkagezan1313 wrote: I think in the end though, if you asked Freddie, he'd whip out his British passport, flash it at you, and then tell you to fuck off.I agree 150% with this statement. |
QueenMercury46 23.12.2007 22:08 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Have you ever heard of sarcasm?<font color="sky blue">QueenMercury46 wrote: The almighty Treasure Moment's thoughts are NEVER opinions, only FACTS and that's a FACT. Do not upset the royal highness Treasure Moment.couldnt have said it better myself :D |
MamaQueen 23.12.2007 22:41 |
Well, the president of Iran said that in Iran there are no homosexuals. So, there goes the theory that Freddie was Iranian. |
john bodega 23.12.2007 23:21 |
Freddie was probably the Greatest Iranian who ever lived, but come on?? Look at the competition he's up against.... it's practically a rigged table here, people. If I were Iranian, I'd easily be in the top 20. |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 23:55 |
MamaQueen wrote: Well, the president of Iran said that in Iran there are no homosexuals. So, there goes the theory that Freddie was Iranian.who cares what that idiot says? it doesnt change the FACTS about his origin.. now get a brain |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 23:56 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Freddie was probably the Greatest Iranian who ever lived, but come on?? Look at the competition he's up against.... it's practically a rigged table here, people. If I were Iranian, I'd easily be in the top 20.dont you think you should know a little about iranians to make a statement like that? |
Treasure Moment 23.12.2007 23:57 |
<font color="sky blue">QueenMercury46 wrote:of course i knew you were being sarcasticTreasure Moment wrote:Have you ever heard of sarcasm?<font color="sky blue">QueenMercury46 wrote: The almighty Treasure Moment's thoughts are NEVER opinions, only FACTS and that's a FACT. Do not upset the royal highness Treasure Moment.couldnt have said it better myself :D |
FVBVA 24.12.2007 02:24 |
he is not from this world,he might be brought here by ufo's or something like that. |
phish food 24.12.2007 03:45 |
treasure moment: not arguing or taking sides you said that 'people forget that good things came out of iran like freddie' technically, freddie didn't 'come out' of iran, he 'came out' of zanzibar and into england. i'm not denying that freddie wasn't iranian, in fact, i don't even care if he was. just pointing out that freddie most-likely never stepped foot on iranian land, therefore, it was impossible for him to 'come out' of iran. his parents might've 'come out' of iran, but he certainly did not. |
QUEENROCKS_1991 24.12.2007 04:07 |
I see Freddie as a Rock singer :) never mind where he came from :P |
Roger Meadows Tailor 24.12.2007 05:35 |
So what if Freddie was Iranian ( which he wasn't ) Whats your point? To me he was the greatest singer/songwriter ever to have graced this planet.And thats all that mattered. Brian May was born in England.Does that make him Iranian too? Why dont you go away and join some Boyzone forum which is about your level of intelligence. |
Leaky Luke 24.12.2007 05:57 |
Treasure Moment wrote:So you claim that all black people are African? That's just idiotic.Leaky Luke wrote: so you mean a japanease guy born in sweden is swedish? He would have a Swedish passport if he would stay in Sweden. So yes that would mean he is Swedish with most likely Japanese blood in him. My parents were born in Russia and I was born in the Netherlands.. that makes me 100% Dutch cause I was raised here with no Russian influences.that theory doesnt work, if so then a black man could be german for example and thats just silly, its genetic! certain people belong to certain genetics |
The Fairy King 24.12.2007 06:01 |
LMAO |
Gratzi 24.12.2007 06:03 |
<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: LMAOTell me about it. xD |
deleted user 24.12.2007 06:32 |
Ok then if we are talking genetically then I would supposedly come from Scandeinavia and places because I have blonde hair and blue eyes and those places are where people with those characteristics oringionate from. So according to your theory I would be Scvandinavian or something simialr. But using REAL facts I am English. I'm born in England I have lived here al my live I have an English accent and an English passport. Also if a refugee came and immigrated to England say from a certain country say Afganistan they would be Afganibut if they had children while living here, who grew up and spoke the English language (even if he could speak other languages) he would be ENGLISH. And if we look at that theory of yours that would mean that Americans were not Americans. Only true Americans would be Red Indians because you only have to look at that Museum on Ellis Island to see how many people came from all over the world to live in the USA. And there are millions who didnt get registered on Ellis Island because they came before or after. |
alucard2003 24.12.2007 07:26 |
Exacto amigos,la descendencia de Freddie era de Iran,aunque haya nacido en otro lugar su sangre y rasgos fisicos son totalmente persas o iranies. |
Roger Meadows Tailor 24.12.2007 07:39 |
Treasure Moment said " for example if an African was born in Germany is he white and German" How can an African be born in Germany? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TM. More to be laughed at than pitied |
Bigbrotherbp 24.12.2007 08:36 |
Why the hell do we keep discussing this shitty topic? I'll never take a look at this anymore. (:| |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 09:29 |
Ellie<3Queen wrote: Ok then if we are talking genetically then I would supposedly come from Scandeinavia and places because I have blonde hair and blue eyes and those places are where people with those characteristics oringionate from. So according to your theory I would be Scvandinavian or something simialr. But using REAL facts I am English. I'm born in England I have lived here al my live I have an English accent and an English passport. Also if a refugee came and immigrated to England say from a certain country say Afganistan they would be Afganibut if they had children while living here, who grew up and spoke the English language (even if he could speak other languages) he would be ENGLISH. And if we look at that theory of yours that would mean that Americans were not Americans. Only true Americans would be Red Indians because you only have to look at that Museum on Ellis Island to see how many people came from all over the world to live in the USA. And there are millions who didnt get registered on Ellis Island because they came before or after.i dont know how many times i have to explain this, people are dumber than i thought. A black man born in germany will never be seen as a german. |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 09:30 |
Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: So what if Freddie was Iranian ( which he wasn't ) Whats your point? To me he was the greatest singer/songwriter ever to have graced this planet.And thats all that mattered. Brian May was born in England.Does that make him Iranian too? Why dont you go away and join some Boyzone forum which is about your level of intelligence.brian is white, freddie was middle eastern, how do you compare them like they were the same? now get a brain |
john bodega 24.12.2007 10:15 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Tell you what; you do some research in the world of music before commenting again on bands that you don't actually listen to,Zebonka12 wrote: Freddie was probably the Greatest Iranian who ever lived, but come on?? Look at the competition he's up against.... it's practically a rigged table here, people. If I were Iranian, I'd easily be in the top 20.dont you think you should know a little about iranians to make a statement like that? and I will do some research on Iranians before I shoot my mouth off again. Deal? |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 10:38 |
Zebonka12 wrote:what bands? the bands ive commented on ive checked outTreasure Moment wrote:Tell you what; you do some research in the world of music before commenting again on bands that you don't actually listen to, and I will do some research on Iranians before I shoot my mouth off again. Deal?Zebonka12 wrote: Freddie was probably the Greatest Iranian who ever lived, but come on?? Look at the competition he's up against.... it's practically a rigged table here, people. If I were Iranian, I'd easily be in the top 20.dont you think you should know a little about iranians to make a statement like that? |
GiantSpider 24.12.2007 11:37 |
A black man born in Germany will never be seen as German? What the hell are you on about? By who, who is as narrow minded as is neccisary to see that? If he's born in Germany and speaks German of course he will be. Listen, whatever country you live in will have a Nationalist/Facist party, go to them, you will meet like minded people there. And you can discuss your "Facts" about races (of which by the way, there is no such thing), and colours and creeds and what have you. And when you realise your talking out of your arse, maybe you can come back. |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 12:34 |
GiantSpider wrote: A black man born in Germany will never be seen as German? What the hell are you on about? By who, who is as narrow minded as is neccisary to see that? If he's born in Germany and speaks German of course he will be. Listen, whatever country you live in will have a Nationalist/Facist party, go to them, you will meet like minded people there. And you can discuss your "Facts" about races (of which by the way, there is no such thing), and colours and creeds and what have you. And when you realise your talking out of your arse, maybe you can come back.and you keep being delusional |
ANAGRAMER 24.12.2007 14:17 |
As we know, Freddie was born in Zanzibar His parents were Parsees from the Gujerat region of India. The Parsees left Persia centuries ago to settle in northern India. It has been quoted that 'every Patel in the world' is of this descent. Classic Rosk magazne quote: Freddie Mercury was the world's first Indian rock star So, Indian it is then! |
John S Stuart 24.12.2007 14:22 |
Having just tuned into this thread since yesterday evening, I am now really disturbed by what I am reading. This thread is no longer about the world's greatest Iranian, nor is it about Freddie's background, influences or ideology. Rather, this thread has degenerated into a rant about eugenics and a racist diatribe. H. L. Kaye wrote "...the obvious truth (is) that eugenics has been discredited by Hitler's crimes," (Kaye 1989). R. L. Hayman argued "the eugenics movement is an anachronism, its political implications exposed by the Holocaust," (Hayman 1990). If, for fun, we discuss the depth of Freddie's alleged 'Iranian' roots, then this is indeed the correct forum. But if this discussion is hi-jacked to promote the unethical and unhealthy positioning of racial politics - not only is this the wrong forum, but I respectfully request that such a thread is removed from the board. |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 14:29 |
John S Stuart wrote: Having just tuned into this thread since yesterday evening, I am now really disturbed by what I am reading. This thread is no longer about the world's greatest Iranian, nor is it about Freddie's background, influences or ideology. Rather, this thread has degenerated into a rant about eugenics and a racist diatribe. H. L. Kaye wrote "...the obvious truth (is) that eugenics has been discredited by Hitler's crimes," (Kaye 1989). R. L. Hayman argued "the eugenics movement is an anachronism, its political implications exposed by the Holocaust," (Hayman 1990). If, for fun, we discuss the depth of Freddie's alleged 'Iranian' roots, then this is indeed the correct forum. But if this discussion is hi-jacked to promote the unethical and unhealthy positioning of racial politics - not only is this the wrong forum, but I respectfully request that such a thread is removed from the board.its nothing racist about saying that a white man is a white man and a black man is a black man, thats basically what ive said. Freddie was iranian by genetics and thats a fact. |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 14:30 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: As we know, Freddie was born in Zanzibar His parents were Parsees from the Gujerat region of India. The Parsees left Persia centuries ago to settle in northern India. It has been quoted that 'every Patel in the world' is of this descent. Classic Rosk magazne quote: Freddie Mercury was the world's first Indian rock star So, Indian it is then!did you read all the facts ive written or are you stupid? so the magazine knows better than freddie himself where he is from when freddie himself doesnt say that he is indian but persian? |
emma246000 24.12.2007 14:31 |
I see Freddie as a brilliant song writter, performer and front man of the greatest band that ever existed..What I do not see is the reason why some people are so concerned about his "roots"...He can even be from planet mars for all I care! The fact remains that He is Freddie Mercury, the greatest gift to the world of Rock and Roll music! :) |
dsmeer 24.12.2007 14:37 |
Treasure Moment, Why are we talking about something that is not worth talking about, We're all gods people to quote a very good band. I looked at your profile and then I understoot why you have the time to talk about this: Occupation: Make your life usefull, go and help people that need help. |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 15:09 |
dsmeer wrote: Treasure Moment, Why are we talking about something that is not worth talking about, We're all gods people to quote a very good band. I looked at your profile and then I understoot why you have the time to talk about this: Occupation: Make your life usefull, go and help people that need help.the reason we are talking about it because people didnt just say "yes i agree, he was the best singer and iranian ever" but they have to argue facts just because i dont write things in this profile doesnt mean you know things about me |
Matias Merçeauroix 24.12.2007 15:41 |
TREASURE MORON IS GAX |
dsmeer 24.12.2007 16:23 |
But still, who gives a F**K where someone is born or his/here roots. All humans are equal. |
cakebox. 24.12.2007 16:28 |
Oh Treasure Moment just fuck off. At least say something else instead of: 'noooo are you stupid, you stupid fuck!!!' Or: 'that's a FACT' Just fuck off! Ass clown |
MamaQueen 24.12.2007 16:38 |
MamaQueen wrote: Well, the president of Iran said that in Iran there are no homosexuals. So, there goes the theory that Freddie was Iranian. Treasure Moment wrote: who cares what that idiot says? it doesnt change the FACTS about his origin.. now get a brain Estupido, your reply trully indicates that you don't understand sarcasm, which shows a lack of intelligence. Now, you go get a brain...from Iran. |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 17:25 |
<b>- Horsie Vai - wrote: TREASURE MORON IS GAXthe mighty guitarist who cant play anything but covers and random notes! :D |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 17:31 |
dsmeer wrote: But still, who gives a F**K where someone is born or his/here roots. All humans are equal. |
Roger Meadows Tailor 24.12.2007 17:32 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Treasure Moment you FUCKWIT.Roger Meadows Tailor wrote: So what if Freddie was Iranian ( which he wasn't ) Whats your point? To me he was the greatest singer/songwriter ever to have graced this planet.And thats all that mattered. Brian May was born in England.Does that make him Iranian too? Why dont you go away and join some Boyzone forum which is about your level of intelligence.brian is white, freddie was middle eastern, how do you compare them like they were the same? now get a brain You couldnt see a sarcastic comment if it come up and hit you in the balls, which sound as though they are located each side of your head.Let me guide you to that comment.Its the one which started off with "Brian May was born in England..." |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 17:33 |
MamaQueen wrote: MamaQueen wrote: Well, the president of Iran said that in Iran there are no homosexuals. So, there goes the theory that Freddie was Iranian. Treasure Moment wrote: who cares what that idiot says? it doesnt change the FACTS about his origin.. now get a brain Estupido, your reply trully indicates that you don't understand sarcasm, which shows a lack of intelligence. Now, you go get a brain...from Iran.i didnt see that as sarcasm because most of the people here are extremely stupid and would say stuff like that seriously |
Freya is quietly judging you. 24.12.2007 19:36 |
There's a difference between nationality and origin... |
deleted user 24.12.2007 19:42 |
Treasure Moment said: i dont know how many times i have to explain this, people are dumber than i thought. A black man born in germany will never be seen as a german. Ok listen HERE missy! They would be seen as german because alot of people aren't as narrow minded as you. I think you should think twice before you call people dumb because to be honest they can't be as stupid as you. Open your eyes and ears this is the 21st century, just because there are some racists in this world doesn't mean everybody will not accept people of other countries/culture/or relgion and if you don't mind me saying from reading all your posts I think you are a bit racist so I think maybe you should shut up now before you make an even BIGGER arse of yourelf than you already have, take my advice. |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 19:59 |
Ellie<3Queen wrote: Treasure Moment said: i dont know how many times i have to explain this, people are dumber than i thought. A black man born in germany will never be seen as a german. Ok listen HERE missy! They would be seen as german because alot of people aren't as narrow minded as you. I think you should think twice before you call people dumb because to be honest they can't be as stupid as you. Open your eyes and ears this is the 21st century, just because there are some racists in this world doesn't mean everybody will not accept people of other countries/culture/or relgion and if you don't mind me saying from reading all your posts I think you are a bit racist so I think maybe you should shut up now before you make an even BIGGER arse of yourelf than you already have, take my advice.thats kind of you and all to see everyone in the same country as one but thats NOT how it is in reality. I wasnt being racist, i just stated a fact. He was persian, said it himself, end of discussion. |
Matias Merçeauroix 24.12.2007 20:07 |
Treasure anus is GAX |
deleted user 24.12.2007 20:15 |
Sorry Treasure Moment I didnt quite catch what you last said, because everyword said "Bullshit" PS. How many people agree with you, 0. How many people are saying what I have been saying and similar stuff, too may to count. I think these results show that you are wrong because believe it or not the majority of us are smarter than you, and i'm 14 for god's sake and there are people 17 and they are also smarter so really, as you keep blathering on about the FACTS then you should look at what we people who talk with our brains and not with our butts are saying. :) Thanks, now thats the end of discussion |
Freya is quietly judging you. 24.12.2007 20:21 |
There's no point responding, he's an obnoxious self righteous nutjob, with the IQ of a cucumber, who is wrong pretty much all the time. Just leave it. |
Matias Merçeauroix 24.12.2007 20:41 |
and he is gax |
Freya is quietly judging you. 24.12.2007 20:49 |
Quite. |
deleted user 24.12.2007 20:56 |
Yep i agree hes gax and a cucumber |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 20:56 |
Ellie<3Queen wrote: Sorry Treasure Moment I didnt quite catch what you last said, because everyword said "Bullshit" PS. How many people agree with you, 0. How many people are saying what I have been saying and similar stuff, too may to count. I think these results show that you are wrong because believe it or not the majority of us are smarter than you, and i'm 14 for god's sake and there are people 17 and they are also smarter so really, as you keep blathering on about the FACTS then you should look at what we people who talk with our brains and not with our butts are saying. :) Thanks, now thats the end of discussionhow are you smarter than me little idiot kid? all i was saying is that freddie is iranian and thats a fact, i didnt start an argument, you people did by denying obvious facts. why dont you explain to me why freddies name for example is an iranian name if he isnt? his fucking name, his parents, he says it himself in interview that he is persian=iranian is that hard to grasp in your tiny fucked up mind? |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 20:57 |
<b><font color=007788> ?Freya? wrote: There's no point responding, he's an obnoxious self righteous nutjob, with the IQ of a cucumber, who is wrong pretty much all the time. Just leave it.shut up, you are the stupid one here denying facts! stupid fool |
QueenMercury46 24.12.2007 22:09 |
Treasure Moment wrote:SILENCE YOU GAX CUCUMBER.<b><font color=007788> ?Freya? wrote: There's no point responding, he's an obnoxious self righteous nutjob, with the IQ of a cucumber, who is wrong pretty much all the time. Just leave it.shut up, you are the stupid one here denying facts! stupid fool |
Donna13 24.12.2007 22:28 |
I think this is actually a discussion regarding anthropology and genetics, subjects of which I know close to nothing. However, this does not prevent me from commenting here. Ha. I think the point that Treasure Moment is trying to make is that Freddie's ancestors came from Persia (Iran), and that is correct. However, Iran is just a name for a geographic area (as JSS would say) and there are genetic differences among the various populations there (as I have just read in my 5 minutes of research). Anyway, Freddie is decended from the Zoroastrian people who fled Persia (Iran) a long time ago. Here are some links I found that looked interesting. Maybe some of you can become expert on this subject and report back to us. link link link link |
Treasure Moment 24.12.2007 22:38 |
Donna13 wrote: I think this is actually a discussion regarding anthropology and genetics, subjects of which I know close to nothing. However, this does not prevent me from commenting here. Ha. I think the point that Treasure Moment is trying to make is that Freddie's ancestors came from Persia (Iran), and that is correct. However, Iran is just a name for a geographic area (as JSS would say) and there are genetic differences among the various populations there (as I have just read in my 5 minutes of research). Anyway, Freddie is decended from the Zoroastrian people who fled Persia (Iran) a long time ago. Here are some links I found that looked interesting. Maybe some of you can become expert on this subject and report back to us. link link linkyes, thats what im saying, his roots were in iran, simple as that, he was an iranian living in another country. |
deleted user 25.12.2007 05:09 |
Treasure moment said: how are you smarter than me little idiot kid? all i was saying is that freddie is iranian and thats a fact, i didnt start an argument, you people did by denying obvious facts. why dont you explain to me why freddies name for example is an iranian name if he isnt? his fucking name, his parents, he says it himself in interview that he is persian=iranian is that hard to grasp in your tiny fucked up mind? shut up, you are the stupid one here denying facts! stupid fool -------------------------------- God change the record. You cant go round mouthing off at people because they don't agree with you and you can't acctually think of anything better to say. Just stop stating YOUR opinion as fact because heres the truth, it's not a fact. I never denied his parents came from Iran I was saying that didn't make HIM Iranian. I don't know why I am writing this cause the answer will be "shut the fuck up stupid child im right your wrong and check the facts blah blah blah" or something LIKE that. PS. I'm 14 not a LITTLE kid and i was saying that everyone was smarter than you not just me. Duh |
John S Stuart 25.12.2007 08:37 |
Treasure Moment: "...his fucking name, his parents, he says it himself in interview that he is persian=iranian". FOR ONE LAST TIME... Farookh is NOT an Iranian name. It is an INDIAN name - of INDIAN origin - it literally means: "auspicious". link link link Freddie's parents were NOT Iranian - they were Indian. link link link Freddie was NOT Iranian - but, AS YOU YOURSELF SAY - he claimed he came from Persian descent. Persian is NOT Iranian. link ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION COULD BE FOUND AFTER A FEW SECONDS ON GOOGLE. NOW DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR - AND GET ON WITH EITHER SOME REAL ACADEMIC RESEARCH - OR LEAVE WELL ALONE AND GET A LIFE! (And yes - I do mean to shout!) |
Treasure Moment 25.12.2007 10:03 |
John S Stuart wrote: Treasure Moment: "...his fucking name, his parents, he says it himself in interview that he is persian=iranian". FOR ONE LAST TIME... Farookh is NOT an Iranian name. It is an INDIAN name - of INDIAN origin - it literally means: "auspicious". link link link Freddie's parents were NOT Iranian - they were Indian. link link link Freddie was NOT Iranian - but, AS YOU YOURSELF SAY - he claimed he came from Persian descent. Persian is NOT Iranian. link ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION COULD BE FOUND AFTER A FEW SECONDS ON GOOGLE. NOW DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR - AND GET ON WITH EITHER SOME REAL ACADEMIC RESEARCH - OR LEAVE WELL ALONE AND GET A LIFE! (And yes - I do mean to shout!)wow! you are extremely fucking retarded! congrats! |
Gratzi 25.12.2007 11:04 |
Guys! guys! you're missing the whole point here. Sweden does not have ius soli and Japan (duh!) has ius sanguinis. Ergo, a Japanese guy born in Sweden, whose parents do not have Swedish citizenship, is not a Swedish citizen. So Leaky Luke was right! However... he did not mention if the parents of the Japanese guy have Swedish citizenship or not... *returns to annoying relatives reunion thingy* Relatives are annoying, aren't they? |
cakebox. 25.12.2007 13:05 |
Treasure Moment=The most stupid fuckwit who has ever assaulted this planet! Just fuck off, nerd. And that's a FACT!! |
Treasure Moment 25.12.2007 13:44 |
cakebox. wrote: Treasure Moment=The most stupid fuckwit who has ever assaulted this planet! Just fuck off, nerd. And that's a FACT!!fuck you! you are the stupid one here not understanding simple facts |
Aquillas 25.12.2007 13:58 |
C'mon people...it's Christmas... Can't we all just get along? |
cakebox. 25.12.2007 14:16 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Hahahahahah! Now that was predictable!cakebox. wrote: Treasure Moment=The most stupid fuckwit who has ever assaulted this planet! Just fuck off, nerd. And that's a FACT!!fuck you! you are the stupid one here not understanding simple facts Merry Christmas, TM! May you choke in a giant turkey. |
Treasure Moment 25.12.2007 14:34 |
cakebox. wrote:may you fall into a vulcano :)Treasure Moment wrote:Hahahahahah! Now that was predictable! Merry Christmas, TM! May you choke in a giant turkey.cakebox. wrote: Treasure Moment=The most stupid fuckwit who has ever assaulted this planet! Just fuck off, nerd. And that's a FACT!!fuck you! you are the stupid one here not understanding simple facts |
Treasure Moment 25.12.2007 14:35 |
Aquillas wrote: C'mon people...it's Christmas... Can't we all just get along?i dont celebrate silly stuff like christmas, im smart enough to know that religion is man made SHIT :) |
cakebox. 25.12.2007 14:37 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Ha, that's quite a nice one actually ;)cakebox. wrote:may you fall into a vulcano :)Treasure Moment wrote:Hahahahahah! Now that was predictable! Merry Christmas, TM! May you choke in a giant turkey.cakebox. wrote: Treasure Moment=The most stupid fuckwit who has ever assaulted this planet! Just fuck off, nerd. And that's a FACT!!fuck you! you are the stupid one here not understanding simple facts |
Phill the Thrill 25.12.2007 19:26 |
at this poit all I have to say is...Wow....just wow |
Treasure Moment 25.12.2007 19:34 |
Phill the Thrill wrote: at this poit all I have to say is...Wow....just wowits not my fault, these people instead of agreeing with simple facts have to argue, it happenes when people are this stupid :) |
The Fairy King 25.12.2007 20:08 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Dude...JSS brought the real facts here...just sit back and accept that you didn't win this discussion.cakebox. wrote: Treasure Moment=The most stupid fuckwit who has ever assaulted this planet! Just fuck off, nerd. And that's a FACT!!fuck you! you are the stupid one here not understanding simple facts It's ok...really...you'll live with the shame...baby steps...little treasure steps. ROFL |
Treasure Moment 25.12.2007 20:11 |
<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote:silent, you are too stupid to talkTreasure Moment wrote:Dude...JSS brought the real facts here...just sit back and accept that you didn't win this discussion. It's ok...really...you'll live with the shame...baby steps...little treasure steps. ROFLcakebox. wrote: Treasure Moment=The most stupid fuckwit who has ever assaulted this planet! Just fuck off, nerd. And that's a FACT!!fuck you! you are the stupid one here not understanding simple facts |
deleted user 25.12.2007 20:52 |
stupid, thats a FACT, dumb, fuck off ARE THESE THE ONLY WORDS YOU KNOW. PEOPLE ARE ALOUD DIFFERENT OPINIONS. You can't tell every person these things if they don't agree with you! Just because you seem incapable of string a WHOLE sentence that acctually makes sense together you can't say stuff like that ALL the TIME it just proves how idiotic you are |
Treasure Moment 26.12.2007 01:26 |
Ellie<3Queen wrote: stupid, thats a FACT, dumb, fuck off ARE THESE THE ONLY WORDS YOU KNOW. PEOPLE ARE ALOUD DIFFERENT OPINIONS. You can't tell every person these things if they don't agree with you! Just because you seem incapable of string a WHOLE sentence that acctually makes sense together you can't say stuff like that ALL the TIME it just proves how idiotic you areif you cant grasp the simple facts ive presented in this thread then you know what you are. |
ANAGRAMER 26.12.2007 01:50 |
Certainly, the fact that Freddie Mercury was Britain's first Indian pop star is too little known and appreciated - London times Mercury has been criticized for having kept his Indian ethnicity a secret from the public. As a journalist from The Times observed, "Freddie himself always played down his Indian origins. In the few interviews he gave, he remained deliberately unclear about them."[1] Wikipedia TREASURE MOMENT: Can I ask if you have any friends? Thanks |
ANAGRAMER 26.12.2007 01:52 |
[edit] Ethnicity Mercury has been criticized for having kept his Indian ethnicity a secret from the public. As a journalist from The Times observed, "Freddie himself always played down his Indian origins. In the few interviews he gave, he remained deliberately unclear about them."[1] A close friend of Mercury's further related to biographer David Bret: "[Farrokh] Bulsara was a name he had buried. He never wanted to talk about any period in his life before he became Freddie Mercury, and everything about Freddie Mercury was a self-constructed thing."[56 |
ANAGRAMER 26.12.2007 01:53 |
Treasure moment - can I ask if you HAVE any friends? |
Treasure Moment 26.12.2007 02:30 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: Certainly, the fact that Freddie Mercury was Britain's first Indian pop star is too little known and appreciated - London times Mercury has been criticized for having kept his Indian ethnicity a secret from the public. As a journalist from The Times observed, "Freddie himself always played down his Indian origins. In the few interviews he gave, he remained deliberately unclear about them."[1] Wikipedia TREASURE MOMENT: Can I ask if you have any friends? Thankswhats wrong with you? did you check all the stuff ive written or are you braindead? |
Treasure Moment 26.12.2007 02:31 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: [edit] Ethnicity Mercury has been criticized for having kept his Indian ethnicity a secret from the public. As a journalist from The Times observed, "Freddie himself always played down his Indian origins. In the few interviews he gave, he remained deliberately unclear about them."[1] A close friend of Mercury's further related to biographer David Bret: "[Farrokh] Bulsara was a name he had buried. He never wanted to talk about any period in his life before he became Freddie Mercury, and everything about Freddie Mercury was a self-constructed thing."[56he wasnt indian you moron, whats your problem? |
Matias Merçeauroix 26.12.2007 03:04 |
treASSure monument KIEY GAX |
Treasure Moment 26.12.2007 05:34 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: Treasure moment - can I ask if you HAVE any friends?no, anything else you wanna ask? |
The Fairy King 26.12.2007 06:34 |
I think you've insulted enough people in one thread TM. I think a ban is hanging over your thick head right now. Barb, our saviour!!! Please rid us of this wretched treasure moment person. *prays* |
Treasure Moment 26.12.2007 06:41 |
<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: I think you've insulted enough people in one thread TM. I think a ban is hanging over your thick head right now. Barb, our saviour!!! Please rid us of this wretched treasure moment person. *prays*ive just defended myself against hordes of morons, if they had just said "yeah he sure was the greatest iranian to live" instead of denying facts none of this would have happened but people are stupid. |
John S Stuart 26.12.2007 06:42 |
ANAGRAMER wrote: Certainly, the fact that Freddie Mercury was Britain's first Indian pop star is too little known and appreciated - London timesANAGRAMER: I know that you are quoting from the 'London Times', but, I think Sir Cliff Richard (first chart single 'Move It' was released in 1958) was the first UK Indian pop star. Cliff Richard was born at the King George Hospital, Victoria Street, Lucknow, India in 1940 to parents Rodger Oscar, a steward, and Dorothy Marie (born Dazely) Webb. He was christened on 2 November 1940 at St Thomas' Church, Dehradun, India. Both parents were of mixed Anglo-Indian Blood. A year later his family moved to Calcutta. In 1947, following Indian independence, the family moved to Britain. I think this was why Freddie had such an admiration for Cliff, in that they both shared an Indian background, although they never seemed to talk about it. |
Legy 26.12.2007 12:47 |
This thread is highly entertaining. |
john bodega 26.12.2007 13:31 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Freddie was probably the worst Iranian in all history.<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: I think you've insulted enough people in one thread TM. I think a ban is hanging over your thick head right now. Barb, our saviour!!! Please rid us of this wretched treasure moment person. *prays*ive just defended myself against hordes of morons, if they had just said "yeah he sure was the greatest iranian to live" instead of denying facts none of this would have happened but people are stupid. |
Treasure Moment 26.12.2007 15:31 |
Zebonka12 wrote:the always funny zebonka :PTreasure Moment wrote:Freddie was probably the worst Iranian in all history.<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: I think you've insulted enough people in one thread TM. I think a ban is hanging over your thick head right now. Barb, our saviour!!! Please rid us of this wretched treasure moment person. *prays*ive just defended myself against hordes of morons, if they had just said "yeah he sure was the greatest iranian to live" instead of denying facts none of this would have happened but people are stupid. |
Danne 26.12.2007 16:13 |
Treasure Moment wrote: i dont know how many times i have to explain this, people are dumber than i thought. A black man born in germany will never be seen as a german.Is this something specifically German, or is it something you mean applies to the whole world? In that case, you most definately are wrong. Here in Sweden (yes! I'm from Sweden), a black man born in Sweden absolutely could be seen as a Swede. I would say it first of all depends on how he defines himself, and what culture he chooses to adopt. For instance, if you have a third generation black man born in Sweden, raised in the Swedish culture, speaking Swedish, using a Swedish passport, there is no way he would'n be seen as Swedish. If what you say were true, only about 2% of the Swedish population would be considered Swedish... :) |
Treasure Moment 26.12.2007 16:36 |
Danne wrote:nä jag tror inte på det där alls, jag är iranie och har bott här nästan hela mitt liv men känner mig inte som svensk för jag är inte det helt enkelt, jag är iranie var jag än bor, tror inte folk ser mig som svensk heller. Bara vita vanliga svenssons är svenskar och det vet du, allt annat är falskt. Det handlar om ras.Treasure Moment wrote: i dont know how many times i have to explain this, people are dumber than i thought. A black man born in germany will never be seen as a german.Is this something specifically German, or is it something you mean applies to the whole world? In that case, you most definately are wrong. Here in Sweden (yes! I'm from Sweden), a black man born in Sweden absolutely could be seen as a Swede. I would say it first of all depends on how he defines himself, and what culture he chooses to adopt. For instance, if you have a third generation black man born in Sweden, raised in the Swedish culture, speaking Swedish, using a Swedish passport, there is no way he would'n be seen as Swedish. If what you say were true, only about 2% of the Swedish population would be considered Swedish... :) |
spepper 26.12.2007 16:41 |
TM is just the same moron that was claiming the same crap in the queenonline forum some months ago. He seem to like being treated like shit by Queen fans... Poor loser. |
Treasure Moment 26.12.2007 16:42 |
spepper wrote: TM is just the same moron that was claiming the same crap in the queenonline forum some months ago. He seem to like being treated like shit by Queen fans... Poor loser.shut up you worthless garbage |
Micrówave 26.12.2007 17:16 |
I agree. The greatest Iranian ever never set foot in the country!!! You'd have to be pretty stupid (or like Sheep) to go to Iran right now. |
Treasure Moment 26.12.2007 17:22 |
Micrówave wrote: I agree. The greatest Iranian ever never set foot in the country!!! You'd have to be pretty stupid (or like Sheep) to go to Iran right now.yeah the country is real bad, both because of the strict retarded religious laws and the threat of usa attacking them soon for oil. |
Micrówave 26.12.2007 17:30 |
Oh, I've got some bad, bad news for TREASURE MOMENT of Iran. And a History Lesson to go with it.
Freddie wasn't Persian at all. He was black.
Read:
The Assyrians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Indians, Chinese, Persians, Portuguese, Omani Arabs, Dutch and English have all been here at one time or another. Some, particularly the Shirazi Persians and Omani Arabs, stayed to settle and rule. With this influence, Zanzibar has become predominantly Islamic (97%) - the remaining 3% is made up of Christians, Hindus and Sikhs. The earliest visitors to Zanzibar were Arab traders who are said to have arrived in the 8th century. The earliest building that remains on Zanzibar is the mosque at Kizimkazi which dates from 1107, and is a present-day tourist attraction.So arabic influences only started around the 8th century. (Treasure Moment: That's 700 A.D.) Note: the Arab traders were called "visitors". So who was living on Zanzibar before? Well, what's closer? Africa or Iran? Black Freddie rules! Boo-yaa! FACT! |
Legy 26.12.2007 17:54 |
We're all black my dear, Microwave. Life came from Africa, so we're all black. |
Poo, again 26.12.2007 18:05 |
Parsi doesn't equal Iranian. |
Danne 26.12.2007 18:17 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Då tycker jag synd om dig. För i de kretsar jag rör mig är det inte alls så. Och det är inte falskt, utan tydligen olika i olika miljöer.Danne wrote:nä jag tror inte på det där alls, jag är iranie och har bott här nästan hela mitt liv men känner mig inte som svensk för jag är inte det helt enkelt, jag är iranie var jag än bor, tror inte folk ser mig som svensk heller. Bara vita vanliga svenssons är svenskar och det vet du, allt annat är falskt. Det handlar om ras.Treasure Moment wrote: i dont know how many times i have to explain this, people are dumber than i thought. A black man born in germany will never be seen as a german.Is this something specifically German, or is it something you mean applies to the whole world? In that case, you most definately are wrong. Here in Sweden (yes! I'm from Sweden), a black man born in Sweden absolutely could be seen as a Swede. I would say it first of all depends on how he defines himself, and what culture he chooses to adopt. For instance, if you have a third generation black man born in Sweden, raised in the Swedish culture, speaking Swedish, using a Swedish passport, there is no way he would'n be seen as Swedish. If what you say were true, only about 2% of the Swedish population would be considered Swedish... :) Dessutom, hur många "vita vanliga svenssons" finns det? Den absoluta majoriteten av svenska folket har invandrarbakgrund, och man behöver ofta inte gå mer än ett par generationer tillbaka i tiden, men ibland mer. Jag, till exempel, har vallonskt ursprung om man går ett par hundra år tillbaka i tiden, men jag ser mig verkligen inte som belgare eller holländare, eller tysk (och ingen annan ser mig så heller) bara för det. Hur många generationer ska bo i ett land, för att man ska få det landets nationalitet, anser du? |
Micrówave 26.12.2007 18:24 |
artemismoon wrote: We're all black my dear, Microwave. Life came from Africa, so we're all black.And I thought I just had good rhythm. Actually, there is no tangible proof, just the oldest discoveries occured there. |
Poo, again 26.12.2007 18:38 |
Danne wrote:Just nu förtär jag min egen avföring.Treasure Moment wrote:Då tycker jag synd om dig. För i de kretsar jag rör mig är det inte alls så. Och det är inte falskt, utan tydligen olika i olika miljöer. Dessutom, hur många "vita vanliga svenssons" finns det? Den absoluta majoriteten av svenska folket har invandrarbakgrund, och man behöver ofta inte gå mer än ett par generationer tillbaka i tiden, men ibland mer. Jag, till exempel, har vallonskt ursprung om man går ett par hundra år tillbaka i tiden, men jag ser mig verkligen inte som belgare eller holländare, eller tysk (och ingen annan ser mig så heller) bara för det. Hur många generationer ska bo i ett land, för att man ska få det landets nationalitet, anser du?Danne wrote:nä jag tror inte på det där alls, jag är iranie och har bott här nästan hela mitt liv men känner mig inte som svensk för jag är inte det helt enkelt, jag är iranie var jag än bor, tror inte folk ser mig som svensk heller. Bara vita vanliga svenssons är svenskar och det vet du, allt annat är falskt. Det handlar om ras.Treasure Moment wrote: i dont know how many times i have to explain this, people are dumber than i thought. A black man born in germany will never be seen as a german.Is this something specifically German, or is it something you mean applies to the whole world? In that case, you most definately are wrong. Here in Sweden (yes! I'm from Sweden), a black man born in Sweden absolutely could be seen as a Swede. I would say it first of all depends on how he defines himself, and what culture he chooses to adopt. For instance, if you have a third generation black man born in Sweden, raised in the Swedish culture, speaking Swedish, using a Swedish passport, there is no way he would'n be seen as Swedish. If what you say were true, only about 2% of the Swedish population would be considered Swedish... :) |
Legy 26.12.2007 18:40 |
Micrówave wrote:No, Microwave, that's a fact!artemismoon wrote: We're all black my dear, Microwave. Life came from Africa, so we're all black.And I thought I just had good rhythm. Actually, there is no tangible proof, just the oldest discoveries occured there. Kidding, most scientist believe modern homo sapiens came from Africa but that's up for debate. Some scientist believe life on Earth really didn't come from Earth. Apparently, we evolved from microbial life from ice on comets that crashed on Earth billions of years ago. I was watching this on the History Channel the other day. Quite fascinating, actually. |
Matias Merçeauroix 26.12.2007 19:32 |
Treasure Moment wrote:GAXMicrówave wrote: I agree. The greatest Iranian ever never set foot in the country!!! You'd have to be pretty stupid (or like Sheep) to go to Iran right now.yeah the country is real bad, both because of the strict retarded religious laws and the threat of usa attacking them soon for oil. |
The Fairy King 27.12.2007 03:31 |
.....ASSDUDE...... wrote:Awww, carry on assmunch, we'll see who laughs last.<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: I think you've insulted enough people in one thread TM. I think a ban is hanging over your thick head right now. Barb, our saviour!!! Please rid us of this wretched treasure moment person. *prays*Fairy Fag, your such a whimp.. All you can do is try to get people here kicked out of QZ. Seriously, do you nnot have a life?? |
Treasure Moment 27.12.2007 03:35 |
<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote:yeah fairy fag, shut the fuck up!.....ASSDUDE...... wrote:Awww, carry on assmunch, we'll see who laughs last.<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: I think you've insulted enough people in one thread TM. I think a ban is hanging over your thick head right now. Barb, our saviour!!! Please rid us of this wretched treasure moment person. *prays*Fairy Fag, your such a whimp.. All you can do is try to get people here kicked out of QZ. Seriously, do you nnot have a life?? |
The Fairy King 27.12.2007 03:42 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Cool, you have a fellow troll here Treasah :P<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote:yeah fairy fag, shut the fuck up!.....ASSDUDE...... wrote:Awww, carry on assmunch, we'll see who laughs last.<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: I think you've insulted enough people in one thread TM. I think a ban is hanging over your thick head right now. Barb, our saviour!!! Please rid us of this wretched treasure moment person. *prays*Fairy Fag, your such a whimp.. All you can do is try to get people here kicked out of QZ. Seriously, do you nnot have a life?? Shame all you can do is call people names...how about looking in a mirror, see how you're portraying yourself on this board and how you treat people and then call people (you don't know) names if that makes you get off or whatever. Same goes for your Assmunch friend. Behave or just leave. |
Freya is quietly judging you. 27.12.2007 10:46 |
Treasure Moment wrote:The thing is though, I'm not stupid, and neither is anybody else who's challenged your opinions. It's you who's stupid as you can't differentiate from opinion and fact.<b><font color=007788> ?Freya? wrote: There's no point responding, he's an obnoxious self righteous nutjob, with the IQ of a cucumber, who is wrong pretty much all the time. Just leave it.shut up, you are the stupid one here denying facts! stupid fool Freddie was not Iranian, fact. He was British, from Persian decent, and even that isn't quite the same thing as Iranian. I know this will go in one ear and out the other, as everything does with you, but really, you have to see what's in front of you. On the larger scale, does it really matter where he's from? As one of Freddie's biggest fans I'd have thought you wouldn't care about his origins and just 'worship' him for what he is... |
Treasure Moment 27.12.2007 11:35 |
<b><font color=007788> ?Freya? wrote:i do, it doesnt matter where he is from, i just said where he was from and all of you have to argue about it.Treasure Moment wrote:The thing is though, I'm not stupid, and neither is anybody else who's challenged your opinions. It's you who's stupid as you can't differentiate from opinion and fact. Freddie was not Iranian, fact. He was British, from Persian decent, and even that isn't quite the same thing as Iranian. I know this will go in one ear and out the other, as everything does with you, but really, you have to see what's in front of you. On the larger scale, does it really matter where he's from? As one of Freddie's biggest fans I'd have thought you wouldn't care about his origins and just 'worship' him for what he is...<b><font color=007788> ?Freya? wrote: There's no point responding, he's an obnoxious self righteous nutjob, with the IQ of a cucumber, who is wrong pretty much all the time. Just leave it.shut up, you are the stupid one here denying facts! stupid fool |
Freya is quietly judging you. 27.12.2007 11:41 |
Actually, people weren't arguing, they were correcting you. |
Treasure Moment 27.12.2007 12:31 |
<b><font color=007788> ?Freya? wrote: Actually, people weren't arguing, they were correcting you.correcting me..funny stuff since everything ive said is facts |
Micrówave 27.12.2007 13:52 |
Treasure Moment wrote: it doesnt matter where he is from, i just said where he was from and all of you have to argue about it. Treasure Moment wrote: all people forget that good things came out of iran like FreddieYou just contradicted your whole point for making this thread, you dimtwit. Everything you have said isn't FACT, it's just stupid. But stupid people don't see the stupidity in their "FACTS". That seems to be happening here. So you started a thread letting people remember that Freddie "came out of Iran", but it doesn't matter where he's from. Maybe you should stop messing with Sheep and actually get an education. Ya think? |
Holly2003 27.12.2007 14:00 |
Treasure Moment wrote: i do, it doesnt matter where he is from, i just said where he was from and all of you have to argue about it.How could he be from iran if he never set foot there in his lfe? Not only was he not born in Iran, his parents were from India. So his "identity" is either: (1) ethnically Indian or (2) his nationality British or (3) he indentified himself primarily by religion (as some Jews or Muslims do). However, there is nothing ih the historical record to indicate that was the case. (You could argue Zoastrian, since that was how he was buried, but this could've been for his parent's benefit). No doubt if you were face to face with Fred you'd be instructing him as to what he "is" instead of listening -- which is the problem with too many people in the world today. |
Poo, again 27.12.2007 14:05 |
Surely must Freddie's ancestors have been assimilated over... more than a millenium of time? |
Treasure Moment 27.12.2007 14:37 |
Micrówave wrote:no you idiot, im not contradicting myself, i meant it doesnt matter where he comes from, i would still like him, thats what i meant.Treasure Moment wrote: it doesnt matter where he is from, i just said where he was from and all of you have to argue about it.Treasure Moment wrote: all people forget that good things came out of iran like FreddieYou just contradicted your whole point for making this thread, you dimtwit. Everything you have said isn't FACT, it's just stupid. But stupid people don't see the stupidity in their "FACTS". That seems to be happening here. So you started a thread letting people remember that Freddie "came out of Iran", but it doesn't matter where he's from. Maybe you should stop messing with Sheep and actually get an education. Ya think? why are you arguing? freddie was a persian and if you look it up you will see that persians live in an area called iran, how much explaining do i have to do to these retarded people? |
Treasure Moment 27.12.2007 14:38 |
Holly2003 wrote:we all have roots, his is in iran, look at him and then look at iranians and how they look like. Is it hard to for you to understand?Treasure Moment wrote: i do, it doesnt matter where he is from, i just said where he was from and all of you have to argue about it.How could he be from iran if he never set foot there in his lfe? Not only was he not born in Iran, his parents were from India. So his "identity" is either: (1) ethnically Indian or (2) his nationality British or (3) he indentified himself primarily by religion (as some Jews or Muslims do). However, there is nothing ih the historical record to indicate that was the case. (You could argue Zoastrian, since that was how he was buried, but this could've been for his parent's benefit). No doubt if you were face to face with Fred you'd be instructing him as to what he "is" instead of listening -- which is the problem with too many people in the world today. |
Holly2003 27.12.2007 14:49 |
Treasure Moment wrote:So because he looks Iranian that makes him Iranian? Don't be silly. He also looks Indian. But more importantly, that appears to be his enthicity. As for "roots", he has none in iran.Holly2003 wrote:we all have roots, his is in iran, look at him and then look at iranians and how they look like. Is it hard to for you to understand?Treasure Moment wrote: i do, it doesnt matter where he is from, i just said where he was from and all of you have to argue about it.How could he be from iran if he never set foot there in his lfe? Not only was he not born in Iran, his parents were from India. So his "identity" is either: (1) ethnically Indian or (2) his nationality British or (3) he indentified himself primarily by religion (as some Jews or Muslims do). However, there is nothing ih the historical record to indicate that was the case. (You could argue Zoastrian, since that was how he was buried, but this could've been for his parent's benefit). No doubt if you were face to face with Fred you'd be instructing him as to what he "is" instead of listening -- which is the problem with too many people in the world today. |
Treasure Moment 27.12.2007 15:06 |
Holly2003 wrote:he looks like an indian? then you dont know what iranians look like, why dont you look up persian people on youtube, nah forget it you are too stupid to understand. The guy is persian for 100th time!! fucking retards...Treasure Moment wrote:So because he looks Iranian that makes him Iranian? Don't be silly. He also looks Indian. But more importantly, that appears to be his enthicity. As for "roots", he has none in iran.Holly2003 wrote:we all have roots, his is in iran, look at him and then look at iranians and how they look like. Is it hard to for you to understand?Treasure Moment wrote: i do, it doesnt matter where he is from, i just said where he was from and all of you have to argue about it.How could he be from iran if he never set foot there in his lfe? Not only was he not born in Iran, his parents were from India. So his "identity" is either: (1) ethnically Indian or (2) his nationality British or (3) he indentified himself primarily by religion (as some Jews or Muslims do). However, there is nothing ih the historical record to indicate that was the case. (You could argue Zoastrian, since that was how he was buried, but this could've been for his parent's benefit). No doubt if you were face to face with Fred you'd be instructing him as to what he "is" instead of listening -- which is the problem with too many people in the world today. |
Holly2003 27.12.2007 15:26 |
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Holly2003 27.12.2007 15:36 |
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Holly2003 27.12.2007 15:37 |
Treasure Moment wrote: he looks like an indian? then you dont know what iranians look like, why dont you look up persian people on youtube, nah forget it you are too stupid to understand. The guy is persian for 100th time!! fucking retards...What someone looks like is not a good indicator of where they come from. Freddie Mercury is not Persian. He was born in Zanzibar, his parents are Indian, and his nationality is British. Please provide any evidence you have that Fredie Mercury is Iranian (providing a photo from the Mr bad Guy album doesn't count, as Fred looks more like American infidel Tom Selleck than an Iranian) |
Treasure Moment 27.12.2007 16:03 |
Holly2003 wrote:what the hell is wrong with you? freddie himself says in the interview ive posted that he is persian and you are telling him he isnt?Treasure Moment wrote: he looks like an indian? then you dont know what iranians look like, why dont you look up persian people on youtube, nah forget it you are too stupid to understand. The guy is persian for 100th time!! fucking retards...What someone looks like is not a good indicator of where they come from. Freddie Mercury is not Persian. He was born in Zanzibar, his parents are Indian, and his nationality is British. Please provide any evidence you have that Fredie Mercury is Iranian (providing a photo from the Mr bad Guy album doesn't count, as Fred looks more like American infidel Tom Selleck than an Iranian) his name and parents are persian and you stupid fuck is saying he isnt? get lost |
Micrówave 27.12.2007 16:14 |
Treasure Moment wrote: freddie was a persian and if you look it up you will see that persians live in an area called iran,Can you provide a link? "Look It up" sounds like YOU really don't know and want me to do the research for you. Where specifically does it say that "persians live in an area called Iran". I don't question that Freddie said he's Persian, but I don't think I've ever heard him use I R A N as one word. I had previously heard that the Persians settled in the areas surrounding Iran, but they stuck all the Persian misfits in Iran, leaving places like Yemen and Kuwait for real persians, not those fake Iranian ones. |
Holly2003 27.12.2007 16:21 |
Treasure Moment wrote: what the hell is wrong with you? freddie himself says in the interview ive posted that he is persian and you are telling him he isnt? his name and parents are persian and you stupid fuck is saying he isnt? get lostHe doesn't make any comment at all about Iran in that video: perhaps you posted the wrong link? Neither does he claim to be "Persian". All he says is an off-hand remark about a "persian popinjay". However, given that he also claims to be a "musical prostitute", I hardly think he retelling his life story accurately. In fact, the whole tone of the interview is comedic, which suggests nothing in it should be taken seriously. I'm afraid you are going to have to provide some more concrete eveidence than that my friend. |
Treasure Moment 27.12.2007 17:42 |
Holly2003 wrote:so the fact that his name is persian and his parents are too doesnt mean anything? why am i wasting time with retarded people? lolTreasure Moment wrote: what the hell is wrong with you? freddie himself says in the interview ive posted that he is persian and you are telling him he isnt? his name and parents are persian and you stupid fuck is saying he isnt? get lostHe doesn't make any comment at all about Iran in that video: perhaps you posted the wrong link? Neither does he claim to be "Persian". All he says is an off-hand remark about a "persian popinjay". However, given that he also claims to be a "musical prostitute", I hardly think he retelling his life story accurately. In fact, the whole tone of the interview is comedic, which suggests nothing in it should be taken seriously. I'm afraid you are going to have to provide some more concrete eveidence than that my friend. |
Poo, again 27.12.2007 17:53 |
If we would agree with this Treasure Moment dude, then we would also call all humans AFRICANS. And how many of us do that? |
John S Stuart 27.12.2007 21:23 |
John S Stuart wrote: Treasure Moment: "...his fucking name, his parents, he says it himself in interview that he is persian=iranian". FOR ONE LAST TIME... Farookh is NOT an Iranian name. It is an INDIAN name - of INDIAN origin - it literally means: "auspicious". link link link Freddie's parents were NOT Iranian - they were Indian. link link link Freddie was NOT Iranian - but, AS YOU YOURSELF SAY - he claimed he came from Persian descent. Persian is NOT Iranian. link ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION COULD BE FOUND AFTER A FEW SECONDS ON GOOGLE. NOW DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR - AND GET ON WITH EITHER SOME REAL ACADEMIC RESEARCH - OR LEAVE WELL ALONE AND GET A LIFE! (And yes - I do mean to shout!) |
Treasure Moment 27.12.2007 21:56 |
John S Stuart wrote:are you stupid or what?John S Stuart wrote: Treasure Moment: "...his fucking name, his parents, he says it himself in interview that he is persian=iranian". FOR ONE LAST TIME... Farookh is NOT an Iranian name. It is an INDIAN name - of INDIAN origin - it literally means: "auspicious". link link link Freddie's parents were NOT Iranian - they were Indian. link link link Freddie was NOT Iranian - but, AS YOU YOURSELF SAY - he claimed he came from Persian descent. Persian is NOT Iranian. link ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION COULD BE FOUND AFTER A FEW SECONDS ON GOOGLE. NOW DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR - AND GET ON WITH EITHER SOME REAL ACADEMIC RESEARCH - OR LEAVE WELL ALONE AND GET A LIFE! (And yes - I do mean to shout!) |
John S Stuart 27.12.2007 23:53 |
John S Stuart wrote: Treasure Moment: "...his fucking name, his parents, he says it himself in interview that he is persian=iranian". FOR ONE LAST TIME... Farookh is NOT an Iranian name. It is an INDIAN name - of INDIAN origin - it literally means: "auspicious". link link link Freddie's parents were NOT Iranian - they were Indian. link link link Freddie was NOT Iranian - but, AS YOU YOURSELF SAY - he claimed he came from Persian descent. Persian is NOT Iranian. link ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION COULD BE FOUND AFTER A FEW SECONDS ON GOOGLE. NOW DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR - AND GET ON WITH EITHER SOME REAL ACADEMIC RESEARCH - OR LEAVE WELL ALONE AND GET A LIFE! (And yes - I do mean to shout!) |
LozlanTheMage 28.12.2007 01:18 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Nope. He's correct. Slight difference.John S Stuart wrote:are you stupid or what?John S Stuart wrote: Treasure Moment: "...his fucking name, his parents, he says it himself in interview that he is persian=iranian". FOR ONE LAST TIME... Farookh is NOT an Iranian name. It is an INDIAN name - of INDIAN origin - it literally means: "auspicious". link link link Freddie's parents were NOT Iranian - they were Indian. link link link Freddie was NOT Iranian - but, AS YOU YOURSELF SAY - he claimed he came from Persian descent. Persian is NOT Iranian. link ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION COULD BE FOUND AFTER A FEW SECONDS ON GOOGLE. NOW DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR - AND GET ON WITH EITHER SOME REAL ACADEMIC RESEARCH - OR LEAVE WELL ALONE AND GET A LIFE! (And yes - I do mean to shout!) Seriously, what an odd, inhuman response. Do you have a text generator for your insults? |
The Fairy King 28.12.2007 03:12 |
John S Stuart wrote:John S Stuart wrote: Treasure Moment: "...his fucking name, his parents, he says it himself in interview that he is persian=iranian". FOR ONE LAST TIME... Farookh is NOT an Iranian name. It is an INDIAN name - of INDIAN origin - it literally means: "auspicious". link link link Freddie's parents were NOT Iranian - they were Indian. link link link Freddie was NOT Iranian - but, AS YOU YOURSELF SAY - he claimed he came from Persian descent. Persian is NOT Iranian. link ALL THE ABOVE INFORMATION COULD BE FOUND AFTER A FEW SECONDS ON GOOGLE. NOW DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR - AND GET ON WITH EITHER SOME REAL ACADEMIC RESEARCH - OR LEAVE WELL ALONE AND GET A LIFE! (And yes - I do mean to shout!) |
Holly2003 28.12.2007 05:52 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Freddie Mercury was not Iranian or Persian. Neither was he retarded. I am surprised such a big fan as yourself would say that.Holly2003 wrote:so the fact that his name is persian and his parents are too doesnt mean anything? why am i wasting time with retarded people? lolTreasure Moment wrote: what the hell is wrong with you? freddie himself says in the interview ive posted that he is persian and you are telling him he isnt? his name and parents are persian and you stupid fuck is saying he isnt? get lostHe doesn't make any comment at all about Iran in that video: perhaps you posted the wrong link? Neither does he claim to be "Persian". All he says is an off-hand remark about a "persian popinjay". However, given that he also claims to be a "musical prostitute", I hardly think he retelling his life story accurately. In fact, the whole tone of the interview is comedic, which suggests nothing in it should be taken seriously. I'm afraid you are going to have to provide some more concrete eveidence than that my friend. Anyway, hope you are keeping well. |
Treasure Moment 28.12.2007 07:14 |
Holly2003 wrote:he wasnt? fuck do you know about that you idiot?Treasure Moment wrote:Freddie Mercury was not Iranian or Persian. Neither was he retarded. I am surprised such a big fan as yourself would say that. Anyway, hope you are keeping well.Holly2003 wrote:so the fact that his name is persian and his parents are too doesnt mean anything? why am i wasting time with retarded people? lolTreasure Moment wrote: what the hell is wrong with you? freddie himself says in the interview ive posted that he is persian and you are telling him he isnt? his name and parents are persian and you stupid fuck is saying he isnt? get lostHe doesn't make any comment at all about Iran in that video: perhaps you posted the wrong link? Neither does he claim to be "Persian". All he says is an off-hand remark about a "persian popinjay". However, given that he also claims to be a "musical prostitute", I hardly think he retelling his life story accurately. In fact, the whole tone of the interview is comedic, which suggests nothing in it should be taken seriously. I'm afraid you are going to have to provide some more concrete eveidence than that my friend. havent you read all the facts? people are really fucking stupid! |
Holly2003 28.12.2007 07:25 |
Treasure Moment wrote:How do i know? Like most people, I can analyse and assimilate readily-available information.Holly2003 wrote:he wasnt? fuck do you know about that you idiot? havent you read all the facts? people are really fucking stupid!Treasure Moment wrote:Freddie Mercury was not Iranian or Persian. Neither was he retarded. I am surprised such a big fan as yourself would say that. Anyway, hope you are keeping well.Holly2003 wrote:so the fact that his name is persian and his parents are too doesnt mean anything? why am i wasting time with retarded people? lolTreasure Moment wrote: what the hell is wrong with you? freddie himself says in the interview ive posted that he is persian and you are telling him he isnt? his name and parents are persian and you stupid fuck is saying he isnt? get lostHe doesn't make any comment at all about Iran in that video: perhaps you posted the wrong link? Neither does he claim to be "Persian". All he says is an off-hand remark about a "persian popinjay". However, given that he also claims to be a "musical prostitute", I hardly think he retelling his life story accurately. In fact, the whole tone of the interview is comedic, which suggests nothing in it should be taken seriously. I'm afraid you are going to have to provide some more concrete eveidence than that my friend. How's the family? Keeping well? Let me take this opportunity to wish you and all your family and friends a great Christmas and happy New Year. |
Wiley 28.12.2007 10:34 |
I have read John's arguments and TreasureMoment's rant and I know for sure which one sounds more convincing. So he said he was Persian in an interview, big deal. That doesn't imply that he was or felt Iranian. He didn't live "the Iranian way" for sure, nor he or his family was born there. TM, it must be tough having so many people disagree with you, given that you can't stand someone having a different opinion than you. I don't know, maybe if you could actually type and communicate your ideas in an orderly fashion I could understand your point, but almost every time you seem to be talking out of your ass. No offence. |
john bodega 28.12.2007 10:51 |
Kanye West said: Freddie Mercury doesn't care about black people. |
Poo, again 28.12.2007 13:03 |
Zebonka12 wrote:LO L.Kanye West said: Freddie Mercury doesn't care about black people. Parsis = Persians who left for India. Fine. But that happened over 1000 years ago. How many Americans consider themselves primarily German, or British, or French and so on? How many Europeans or Asians consider themselves African, as it is believed that all humans come from Africa? You just want Freddie to be Iranian so bad, because it would, in a very strange way, make you feel better about yourself, Mr. TM. That is just stupid. |
QueenMercury46 28.12.2007 16:05 |
Zebonka12 wrote:HAHAHAHAAHKanye West said: Freddie Mercury doesn't care about black people. |
Freya is quietly judging you. 28.12.2007 16:27 |
Treasure Moment wrote:No.<b><font color=007788> ?Freya? wrote: Actually, people weren't arguing, they were correcting you.correcting me..funny stuff since everything ive said is facts |
cakebox. 28.12.2007 16:33 |
stupid is your middle name dumb sheep and thats a FACT!! etc, etc, etc |
QueenMercury46 28.12.2007 16:56 |
SILENCE YOU LOW BEINGS! YOU HAVE NO MUSICAL TASTE AND THAT IS A FACT. |
Legy 28.12.2007 17:19 |
Again, this thread is highly entertaining. |
john bodega 29.12.2007 01:51 |
Iran is a hole in the ground, and I fucked it. I was desperate. |
luthorn 29.12.2007 02:33 |
Fred ain't Iranian. According to the Iranian President, who was in the great US of A a few months back speaking at the Colombia University, a place of higher education to those illiterate bastards here who don't know, "there are no homosexuals in Iran". Since Fred was clearly taking it up his oooooo he was gay, hence not Iranian. Therefore he could not be the greatest Iranina who ever lived. |
ANAGRAMER 30.12.2007 06:08 |
Treasure Moment wrote:No not really, you've answered my question fullyANAGRAMER wrote: Treasure moment - can I ask if you HAVE any friends?no, anything else you wanna ask? |
ANAGRAMER 30.12.2007 06:12 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Nope - you've pretty much covered itANAGRAMER wrote: Treasure moment - can I ask if you HAVE any friends?no, anything else you wanna ask? |
ANAGRAMER 30.12.2007 06:24 |
Treasure Moment wrote:Nope - you've pretty much covered itANAGRAMER wrote: Treasure moment - can I ask if you HAVE any friends?no, anything else you wanna ask? |
Q4E 23.09.2008 18:24 |
black people can be German...some people look at race too much. |
Q4E 23.09.2008 18:25 |
Well he has lots of black fans. |