| PieterMC 02.04.2007 14:04 |
Intro We Will Rock You Let Me Entertain You Play The Game Somebody To Love Killer Queen I'm In Love With My Car Get Down Make Love Save Me Now I'm Here Dragon Attack Love Of My Life Under Pressure Keep Yourself Alive Drum Solo Guitar Solo Crazy Little Thing Called Love Jailhouse Rock Bohemian Rhapsody Tie Your Mother Down Another One Bites The Dust Sheer Heart Attack We Will Rock You (Reprise) We Are The Champions God Save The Queen Extras TBC |
| Michael Allred 02.04.2007 14:11 |
Was the tracklisting that big of a concern to most fans? Were people afraid of a 30 minute edit? |
| PieterMC 02.04.2007 14:11 |
Do you always need to be an ass? |
| Erin 02.04.2007 14:13 |
Goody gumdrops...can't wait for the new DVD! :-P |
| Walter B. 02.04.2007 14:17 |
Well, the release date is October 8th according to this (Dutch) site: link |
| Tero 02.04.2007 14:28 |
What a disappointment... Or actually not, as disappointment would require at least some degree of surprise... This is unsurprising on so many levels. |
| PieterMC 02.04.2007 14:31 |
The strange thing is that the DVD is being released through Eagle and not Parolophone. The CD will be released through Parlophone though. |
| Tero 02.04.2007 14:37 |
PieterMC wrote: The strange thing is that the DVD is being released through Eagle and not Parolophone. The CD will be released through Parlophone though.I don't mean to sound overtly pessimistic, but couldn't that be just to put a "cheap re-release" label on the package, and try to avoid any criticism avoid putting out virtually the same dvd which has already been released years ago? If it was released on the usual label, they would actually be expected to put on a second disc of extras on the release, but through the Eagle label they are under no such "obligation". |
| PieterMC 02.04.2007 14:46 |
I'm pretty sure there will be a 2nd disc as they said extras are to be confirmed. |
| Tero 02.04.2007 14:59 |
They've announced a lot of things in the past few years... I wouldn't count on getting anything new as extra. :/ Oh well, at least I won't be disappointed when the release date is here. I hope everyone else can say the same. |
| Mustapha_Ibrahim 02.04.2007 15:25 |
What about the Flash medley?! Wasn't this supposed to be a release of the FULL concert?! =/ Jeeez this will be a waste of money... |
| thunderbolt 31742 02.04.2007 15:42 |
Crap. Well, there went my hopes for this being a fully-restored show from the better night, with parts of the other being on a second disk complete with extras. I will pass on this one unless the extras happen to include Hammy '79, Argentina '81, or some other newly-released gem. |
| goodco 02.04.2007 16:36 |
Where's the 'Now I'm Here' reprise after 'Dragon Attack'? (sorry, couldn't help being sarcastic;-)) |
| bigV 02.04.2007 17:20 |
Folks, I urge you to give QPL the benefit of the doubt. Sure it's a disappointment, but believe it or not the people upstairs have been in the music business for several years now (spot the irony time). They are very well aware of the fact that people wouldn't buy the same DVD for the third time so it will have some redeeming extras. I believe (or rather I hope) that there WILL be a second disc of extras and most of them will be more than enough to keep you occupied for a good weekend. In addition I think that the audio will be a brand-new 5.1 mix and the video will probably be high definition. My point is this. Let's keep the criticisms until October 9th, shall we? V. |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 02.04.2007 17:38 |
PieterMC wrote: I'm pretty sure there will be a 2nd disc as they said extras are to be confirmed.and that will be the only thing that will make anyone interested in the dvd. |
| Penetration_Guru 02.04.2007 18:17 |
bigV wrote: Folks, I urge you to give QPL the benefit of the doubt. Sure it's a disappointment, but believe it or not the people upstairs have been in the music business for several years now (spot the irony time). They are very well aware of the fact that people wouldn't buy the same DVD for the third time so it will have some redeeming extras. I believe (or rather I hope) that there WILL be a second disc of extras and most of them will be more than enough to keep you occupied for a good weekend. In addition I think that the audio will be a brand-new 5.1 mix and the video will probably be high definition. My point is this. Let's keep the criticisms until October 9th, shall we? V.Sort of agreed, with the proviso that I'm still going to express my feelings (good or bad) when the content is confirmed. |
| Asterik 02.04.2007 18:33 |
Not a bad setlist- Dath On Two legs would have been nice mind but it's better than Wembley |
| Lester Burnham 02.04.2007 18:44 |
Asterik wrote: Not a bad setlist- Dath On Two legs would have been nice mind but it's better than WembleyDOTL wasn't played either night. I wonder why 'Flash' and 'The Hero' aren't there, though. |
| Gordie Howe 02.04.2007 18:55 |
I havent been here in a while, but isnt the Montreal DVD the WWRY DVD? Are they re-releasing it again or something? |
| Josh Henson 02.04.2007 19:44 |
Is that so? Then how do you explain all the 'Greatest Hits' packages?....
1981 - Greatest Hits
1991 - Greatest Hits II
1992 - Classic Queen (U.S.'s "GH2")
1992 - Greatest Hits (US release)
1995? - Greatest Hits I + II (Gold set)
1997 - Queen Rocks (not GH, but a compilation)
199x - Platinum Collection (I, II, III)
2004? - Greatest Hits We Will Rock You edition
2006? - Stone Cold Classics
Not sure on all the dates, but you get my drift. They DO repackage shit. I have to admit, the WWRY edition and SCC suck ass. There are errors in the booklet and a total lack of photos. Pure shit.
Their last few releases have sucked. The ROTC dvd really had no extras. The cover 'art' was horrible. Lets face it, their creativity died with Freddie.
And now they are releasing Montreal 1981 for the 3rd time on DVD!!! What the hell are they thinking? What about Hammy 1975 or 1979? What about Houston 77 on cd? What about any of the 1981 South American concerts? What about Rio? I'm tired of all these damn 1981/1982 and 1986 concerts. I can't believe they didn't record any of the American dates last year. Geez!
bigV wrote: Folks, I urge you to give QPL the benefit of the doubt. Sure it's a disappointment, but believe it or not the people upstairs have been in the music business for several years now (spot the irony time). They are very well aware of the fact that people wouldn't buy the same DVD for the third time so it will have some redeeming extras. I believe (or rather I hope) that there WILL be a second disc of extras and most of them will be more than enough to keep you occupied for a good weekend. In addition I think that the audio will be a brand-new 5.1 mix and the video will probably be high definition. My point is this. Let's keep the criticisms until October 9th, shall we? V. |
| Cwazy little thing 02.04.2007 20:47 |
So, am I right in saying that the only song on this release which has not featured on an official Queen live DVD is Let Me Entertain You, and everything there has been released on CD as a live track. I really dont see the point in releasing this before other stuff - maybe eventually, but why now? Although I'll buy it, I'll be praying for good extras, because personally Im only really interested in the concerts for more than one watch if theyve got a live version of a song never officially released - which is why Im desperate for a 70's release - so many great live versions of tracks which are sitting in the archives, while we have to listen to bootleg quality for stuff like It's Late and Liar etc etc..... The only other interest I might have is in how the performance of songs changed over the years; but this is only a year before "On Fire"..... Tis a bit silly. |
| Cwazy little thing 02.04.2007 20:48 |
Oh - Jailhouse Rock hasnt seen official release before on CD or DVD....but its not even a Queen track..... booo hiss! lol. |
| Deacon Fan 02.04.2007 20:55 |
Somehow hearing that they're gonna do a CD set also just makes it more disappointing. Another big release opportunity wasted on stuff everyone already has. And I just know that after they insist on PCM and DTS, the picture quality will be a downgrade. I do see that Eagle Rock has done a few Blu-Ray and HD discs though, so maybe they have that in future plans... of course it wouldn't be announced until everyone's bought the 'new' standard DVD. Oh well. Like I've said before, I don't mind spending $20 on a "new" DVD and perhaps $15 on a "new" CD just to have something "new" to buy. But it is disappointing to see more of the same flooding the market, making something else even less likely. I can just see Brian next year saying "Well folks, we had planned on XXXX being released this year, but it seems we've got too much stuff on the market at the moment and the companies involved don't feel it would be wise at this time. Sorry, It's out of my hands." |
| Josh Henson 02.04.2007 21:00 |
How goes it Erin? Still hangin' in SC I see! |
| Tero 02.04.2007 23:53 |
bigV wrote: My point is this. Let's keep the criticisms until October 9th, shall we?By which times it would be too late to change anything, and people will just be voting with their wallets? I think with Brian's level of detachment from the reality of the band's average fan it would be great to relay the possible errors of this product BEFORE it gets released, rather than just be happy with whatever scraps are being thrown. There must be somebody out there who can write a letter to Brian May outlining the possible shortcomings of this release, and ways to prevent them? |
| Saint Jiub 03.04.2007 00:27 |
Tero wrote:yep, the time to complain is now ...bigV wrote: My point is this. Let's keep the criticisms until October 9th, shall we?By which times it would be too late to change anything, and people will just be voting with their wallets? I think with Brian's level of detachment from the reality of the band's average fan it would be great to relay the possible errors of this product BEFORE it gets released, rather than just be happy with whatever scraps are being thrown. There must be somebody out there who can write a letter to Brian May outlining the possible shortcomings of this release, and ways to prevent them? no "Flash", plus a likely empty promise of a second dvd. |
| YourValentine 03.04.2007 04:27 |
There is always the option to not buy it. I am not telling anyone to boycott the new DVD but I have done it in the past and it's a good feeling to free oneself from the compulsion to buy anything with the Queen name on it. For example, I did not buy the Freddie Tribute, it is only half the concert and the screen is cropped. I did not buy the ROTC DVD because I was just appalled by the promo and there was virtually no extra. I am not buying any CDs with copy protection that makes them sub audio CD standard. This reduced my CD purchases by 80% but I don't care - I am not spending my hard earned money on substandard overpriced products anymore. Sooner or later the music industry will get the message and realize that it's not the teenagers buying Crazy Frog who will fill their pockets in the long run - it's the music addicts who want a decent product for their money. If the customers do not get the message across, we will soon get all new releases as ring tones, only. Btw, Jailhouse Rock is on both pioneer releases. The new set list is identical with the pioneer versions. |
| Tero 03.04.2007 04:39 |
The way I see it, there are three basic alternatives at the moment: 1) We wait, we'll get a great dvd with lots of extras, and buy it happily 2) We wait, we'll get a lousy dvd with very few extras, and the completists are the only ones who will buy it 3) We voice our concerns early enough so Brian May can personally make sure we'll get a great dvd with lots of extras I don't have enough faith in QP to think that option 1) is going to happen, so 3) is the only alternative that would achieve a positive outcome in my book. |
| e-man 03.04.2007 04:52 |
people don't seem to get this; I to wish that they would have waited with montreal, but the reasons for releasing it are perfectly understandable; 1; It has the best picture quality any Queen show will have 2: superb picture quality is naturally what they wanna put out first. when they run out of gigs shot in high quality, then they'll probably start releasing the older stuff (so expect budapest long before any hammersmith gig) 3: and last but not least; the audio mix of the we will rock you dvd is SHIT!!! it sounds like a live rehearsal. a new mix will do the show WONDERS - I bet everybody will love it once it is released and I understand completely that they release gigs in the best possible quality before they start issue 70's show. I wouldn't mind houston, hammersmith and earls court with a few production flaws, but dvds with less than superb production will "only" be interesting to fans. look at wembley, it continues to sell alot, and that is because it is appealing to music fans / dvd fans in general I bet houston 77 wouldn't have been such a smash. not beacuse it is a bad gig (superb gig it is) - but production wise it's not up to standards - and potential dvd buyers would have been aware of that example; I know alot of people who are not into Queen as such, but they like buying concert dvds to watch in a home theatre system. I have reccomended wembley to many of these mates, and all of them have loved it. and they have further reccomended it to their friends etc ( I know this) now; I would have liked to reccomend the WWRY dvd, as I, as a fan,prefer it - despite the awful mix. I also prefer the MK show by far, but cause the picture quailty is not very very good, I don't reccomend it to the casual music fan with the new Montreal dvd, Queen will reach alot more casual fans, than they would have with a 70's show. merely cause of the production quality ramble on.. :) any1 see my point? |
| zaiga 03.04.2007 04:59 |
e-man wrote: any1 see my point?Yes, I certainly do. We must realize that we are "hardcore" fans. We took the time and trouble to register on this Queen site and to reply in a thread about a Queen DVD, that makes us hardcore fans. Of course, we would prefer to see something more obscure, like a 70s show, but we must realize that most Queen products aren't aimed at us. Most products are aimed at the casual fan. Most casual fans will not have this show so for them this is simply a great product. Heck, I don't even have this show, so I'm perfectly happy with it. |
| Tero 03.04.2007 05:02 |
If "production value" was the only criteria by which future Queen releases were selected on, we would only have the Montreal and Budapest videos to "look forward" to before the band would pull the plug on any releases from the archives... And quite frankly, that is a possibility too horrible to entertain even for a moment. |
| e-man 03.04.2007 05:27 |
I think alot of people on this board are too narrow minded :) :) 70's stuff will be released, but high quality productions will have first priority |
| bigV 03.04.2007 06:00 |
zaiga wrote:There was a product released 15 or so years ago that was aimed at "us". It's called "Box of Trix". Anyone remember that? I think it's about time that QPL revisit the idea.e-man wrote: any1 see my point?Yes, I certainly do. We must realize that we are "hardcore" fans. We took the time and trouble to register on this Queen site and to reply in a thread about a Queen DVD, that makes us hardcore fans. Of course, we would prefer to see something more obscure, like a 70s show, but we must realize that most Queen products aren't aimed at us. Most products are aimed at the casual fan. Most casual fans will not have this show so for them this is simply a great product. Heck, I don't even have this show, so I'm perfectly happy with it. V. |
| Tero 03.04.2007 06:37 |
bigV wrote: There was a product released 15 or so years ago that was aimed at "us". It's called "Box of Trix". Anyone remember that? I think it's about time that QPL revisit the idea. V.Someone correct me if I'm terribly wrong, but it wasn't QPL's idea to release that box in the first place, was it? I know the remnants of those boxes were sold through the fanclub (where I bought the video and cd), but that was more than five years after TV-SHOP had been trying to shift the sets for £60... I'm afraid that experience might have left the band somewhat disillusioned with the "fans only" products, while they would have had a much better success with more competitive releases. |
| john bodega 03.04.2007 06:52 |
This show is overdub central. I wish they wouldn't release it... Again! I spose one could say the same about Wembley, but... meh, it wasn't quite as blatant as this show, I feel. |
| Wet Willie 03.04.2007 07:04 |
Coll, reminds me of the Live at the Bowl setlist... why waste money on this one. |
| Adam Baboolal 03.04.2007 07:14 |
It's never been released by QP before, so can't blame them for double-dipping. How quickly people forget the news posted from Brian's site when there was talk of the Pioneer release of WWRY, aka Montreal 81. Yes, it was over two and a half years ago and there was a heated debate here. Brian explained that they didn't have the rights to the Montreal gig and was frustrated that the powers that be, refused his offer to remix the show's audio for their release! So, he said he wanted to get the rights for the show and redo the audio. So, if QP are now involved, his wish must have been granted. Good, I say. The two 5.1 tracks in comparison to each other were as different as apples and oranges. More on that later. Quick note to the bunny... The Pioneer dvd has no less than 3 audio tracks, e.g. DD5.1, DTS 5.1 and a commentary track from the director. The quality WON'T be changed because they'll remove the DD5.1 track and will not ADD anything. Well...maybe their own commentary integrated with the director's one. I think people need to remember something about the two 5.1 tracks. They're very different sounding to each other. God knows why, but some bright spark mixed the DD5.1 so the drums and vocals are high, but the guitar's really low. Oh, and the crowd can come in at points so it's higher than the guitar, too! The DTS is balanced fine, btw. So, if they remix the audio to the same standard of recent releases, I'll be a happy bu- er...guy..! Adam. |
| Cwazy little thing 03.04.2007 07:19 |
Zebonka12 wrote: This show is overdub central. I wish they wouldn't release it... Again! I spose one could say the same about Wembley, but... meh, it wasn't quite as blatant as this show, I feel.I dont want to hijack this thread with another topic too much, but while I knew On Fire had a couple of repairs done (I think Freddie's voice FBG was the one that got the most discussion), I was under the impression that Wembley wasnt overdubbed or fixed or whatever? Almost certainly remixed, but not actually fiddled with in a studio. Could you outline a couple of such overdubs for me? |
| rocks. 03.04.2007 07:54 |
Um, i already have that DVD, its called Queen: We Will Rock You....so..yah, bye |
| KevoM 03.04.2007 07:58 |
I assume they've dropped the correct film title 'We Will Rock You' so as not to confuse it with the stage musical of the same name, fair enough. What it getting tedious is QPs bloody obsession with Octobor release dates to optimise sales for the Xmas market !! Just give me a high-def version, then I may consider treble dipping! |
| Richy Mercury 03.04.2007 08:24 |
There will be bonus tracks. I predict -Frankfurt 82 (7 minutes) -Various European Queen documentaries from 1982 -Maybe some interviews from 1981/1982 -a photo gallery |
| dobo 03.04.2007 08:47 |
Could the Flash Medley not be some kind of easter egg (hidden feature) on the DVD? |
| Deacon Fan 03.04.2007 09:06 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Quick note to the bunny... The Pioneer dvd has no less than 3 audio tracks, e.g. DD5.1, DTS 5.1 and a commentary track from the director. The quality WON'T be changed because they'll remove the DD5.1 track and will not ADD anything. Well...maybe their own commentary integrated with the director's one. Adam.You're forgetting that there are two versions of the (Special Edition) disc. Both have the commentary, I'm not counting that.. Dolby Digital is so small it's not going to affect anything. But one disc has PCM and the other has DTS. Queen has a track record of doing both on one disc. Maybe through Eagle Rock it'll be different, but if QP were doing it themselves I'm 100% certain it would have DTS and PCM on one disc which would in fact reduce the video bitrate compared to the two newer Pioneer versions. That's why they released two versions. Your DTS version is lacking the stereo PCM track which is quite good.. in fact it's 24 bit. This is the version I have and I'm glad actually, after hearing 'On Fire' in DTS I really wasn't impressed. I tend to prefer stereo mixes for live stuff, for some reason. |
| Wilki Amieva 03.04.2007 09:18 |
YourValentine wrote: I am not spending my hard earned money on substandard overpriced products anymore. Sooner or later the music industry will get the message and realize that it's not the teenagers buying Crazy Frog who will fill their pockets in the long run - it's the music addicts who want a decent product for their money.Excellent post. Could not have said it better. |
| Tero 03.04.2007 09:50 |
tired old bunny wrote: You're forgetting that there are two versions of the (Special Edition) disc. Both have the commentary, I'm not counting that.. Dolby Digital is so small it's not going to affect anything. But one disc has PCM and the other has DTS. Queen has a track record of doing both on one disc. Maybe through Eagle Rock it'll be different, but if QP were doing it themselves I'm 100% certain it would have DTS and PCM on one disc which would in fact reduce the video bitrate compared to the two newer Pioneer versions. That's why they released two versions. Your DTS version is lacking the stereo PCM track which is quite good.. in fact it's 24 bit. This is the version I have and I'm glad actually, after hearing 'On Fire' in DTS I really wasn't impressed. I tend to prefer stereo mixes for live stuff, for some reason.How would you feel if I told you that you could have all these audio tracks on one dvd with the maximum possible picture quality if you actually wanted to? That Pioneer could have had all these soundtracks on the same disc if they had so desired? Have a look at this: DTS sound 1500 kbit/s DD5.1 sound 500 kbit/s DD2.0 sound (commentary) 160 kbit/s PCM sound 700 kbit/s and a maximum of 7500 kbit/s for the picture 95 minutes of material with the total of 10360 kbit/s comes to 7,27GB, which is only 86% of the dual-layered disc's full capacity. |
| john bodega 03.04.2007 10:49 |
"I dont want to hijack this thread with another topic too much, but while I knew On Fire had a couple of repairs done (I think Freddie's voice FBG was the one that got the most discussion), I was under the impression that Wembley wasnt overdubbed or fixed or whatever? Almost certainly remixed, but not actually fiddled with in a studio. Could you outline a couple of such overdubs for me?" Un-fixed versions of One Vision and some other song from Wembley were shared here a while back... I don't have them anymore but basically - Brian would hit the odd bung note, and some of Freddie's higher stuff was thrown on there afterwards. Now... no idea if it's pulled from another show, or done in a studio. Couldn't say! To be fair.... aside from the added high stuff, it was pretty close to what got released in the end. And having heard the show from the day before (which had no overdubs, I'd think) I'm pretty sure most of Wembley is quite faithful. I think!? |
| Maz 03.04.2007 12:14 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Well...maybe their own commentary integrated with the director's one.I would think that the rights to the concert and the rights to the director's commentary track are two different issues. Also, seeing how Brian and Roger have never done a commentary track for the other live DVDs, I don't see it happening in this case. |
| Voice of Reason 2018 03.04.2007 12:33 |
As the rude Gran on Catherine Tate might say: 'What a load of old shit!' |
| Daveboy35 03.04.2007 13:18 |
Yeah WHATTA A FUCKIN LIBERTY!!!!!!! but AM I BOVVERED??. Yes i am but if we get great extras i will be more than happy but i'm still praying for the old stuff before the end of time. |
| Bohardy 03.04.2007 13:44 |
At present, from what I know, the plan is for the DVD to be a single-disc, although extras (such as something from South America, and contemporary interviews) are being looked at. And Kevo will be pleased to hear that it's planned for the release to be on DVD, HD DVD, and Blu-Ray. |
| Penetration_Guru 03.04.2007 14:04 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: It's never been released by QP before, so can't blame them for double-dipping.YES THEY HAVE Ok, it was on VHS, but they DID release it. Brian explained that they didn't have the rights to the Montreal gig and was frustrated that the powers that be, refused his offer to remix the show's audio for their release! So, he said he wanted to get the rights for the show and redo the audio.While QP's officially sanctioned mix of Final Live In Japan is allowed to exist, these remarks carry no credibility whatsoever. Montreal pisses all over Final Live, and anyone who has heard both knows it. The DTS is balanced fine, btw.So why does it need remixing? Adam, don't take this personally - it's almost like I wait for someone to make these points so that I can trot out my tired old responses. Perhaps my new point is that these shouldn't BE tired old responses - they should have been bypassed by now. |
| bigV 03.04.2007 15:05 |
Oh, don't worry. Sooner or later we are bound to have a "Live in Japan '85" DVD, courtesy of (you guessed it folks!) Queen Productions Limited. I'm willing to bet parts of my reproductive anatomy on this one. V. |
| AlexRocks 03.04.2007 16:44 |
Um...I think that you all are not taking something into consideration...many major recording acts do not release new product year after year. This would explain why something new is not being released. The last new thing from the vaults was just in 2004 ("On Fire: At The Bowl") and the following couple of years there were two new concerts released on d.v.d. "Return Of The Champions" and "Super Live". They could wait five years before releasing anything else. Lucky us are getting SOMETHING in the meantime AND I would be willing to bet something new in the year 2009 from the archives after the tour and project for the SIXTEENTH studio l.p. from Queen is done later this year and promoted throughout next year... |
| PieterMC 03.04.2007 16:54 |
AlexRocks wrote: AND I would be willing to bet something new in the year 2009 from the archivesOn Blu-Ray perhaps?? |
| Adam Baboolal 03.04.2007 17:12 |
Penetration_Guru wrote:Yes they released the VHS, but that's a different time and audience. 1984, yeah?Adam Baboolal wrote: It's never been released by QP before, so can't blame them for double-dipping.YES THEY HAVE Ok, it was on VHS, but they DID release it.Brian explained that they didn't have the rights to the Montreal gig and was frustrated that the powers that be, refused his offer to remix the show's audio for their release! So, he said he wanted to get the rights for the show and redo the audio.While QP's officially sanctioned mix of Final Live In Japan is allowed to exist, these remarks carry no credibility whatsoever. Montreal pisses all over Final Live, and anyone who has heard both knows it.The DTS is balanced fine, btw.So why does it need remixing? Adam, don't take this personally - it's almost like I wait for someone to make these points so that I can trot out my tired old responses. Perhaps my new point is that these shouldn't BE tired old responses - they should have been bypassed by now. What are you on about when you say that my "remarks carry no credibility"? Ah, Final Live. I hate that one, too! But the way you're bringing it up sounds like you're in court giving some kind of incriminating evidence. They f***'d up on that one for sure. But back to the point of the discussion... If you don't think the audio needs an overhaul, then you must think it's ok to re-release a 1984 mixed concert 17 years later. They (Pioneer) put a little Mr Sheen on the surface, but that doesn't hide the same old mix underneath. Why does it need remixing? Because it can sound so much better with today's equipment rather than leaving a 17 year old mix in place. Granted, it's already great sounding. My brother remarked tonight that he's always liked the sound of the video, even the VHS release. That's the mark of a good recording, btw. And after hearing the delights that have been coming out of the recent dvd releases, I say it's well worth doing. Even to balance out all the singing as for some bizarre reason it's all in the centre speaker! Weird choice. Another reason is to balance out the crowd noise and arrange Brian's sound more. Listening to the solo bit, the 3 amps are still very raw sounding. Can't take it personally, cause there's nothing to take! But as to your old tired responses, I don't think they really enter a discussion about Brian and co improving this dvd. It's about making this release, THE release. Pioneer double-dipped to make a better version. Heck, from what the bunny says, they put out 2 versions at the same time. Interesting choice. As long as they're not changing anything important about the picture, I'm sure it'll be a good release. It's healthy to question what they'll do, but not why they should try to improve on one aspect of the previous release. It'll be a good upgrade to an already cool vid. And hey, if it fails to impress, then the older pioneer version will still exist. Adam. |
| Mr Faron Hyte 03.04.2007 20:00 |
My unsolicited and worthless two cents: I'm perfectly content with the DVD of this show I already have and would have preferred they'd have released something else that I don't already have on DVD or laserdisc. That's the half empty. The half full is, this was the first Queen live anything I ever saw or heard and I have more than a soft spot for it, so I am quite pleased to get the show officially released on CD. So, disappointed or not, I am definitely buying the CD. Whether I get the DVD or not will depend on what the extras are. |
| Deacon Fan 03.04.2007 20:20 |
Here's a full quality sample of the PCM on the non-DTS version: link For those of you who chose the DTS disc :-P |
| Deacon Fan 03.04.2007 23:30 |
Tero wrote:Have a look at this: DTS sound 1500 kbit/s DD5.1 sound 500 kbit/s DD2.0 sound (commentary) 160 kbit/s PCM sound 700 kbit/s and a maximum of 7500 kbit/s for the picture 95 minutes of material with the total of 10360 kbit/s comes to 7,27GB, which is only 86% of the dual-layered disc's full capacity.Lordy.. 700k PCM? that's like mono. The standard is 1536 and 24 bit is probably even higher. |
| inu-liger 03.04.2007 23:57 |
Personally, while I won't be deterred in getting the new DVD by the fact that this will be *yet* another re-release (under a different label this time), I would rather have this more on Blu-Ray than on DVD, since the show was originally shot on IMAX-quality film. And as noted previously, Eagle Rock DOES support both HD formats, HD DVD and Blu-Ray (the latter format which they have slightly more titles released on), so it COULD be possible that we'll have an HD release *worth* buying, if mastered properly. I would lean more towards having a Blu-Ray release (on 50GB dual-layer format with PCM 5.1 surround sound!) than on HD DVD, since HD DVD sucks. Oh, and btw. I just bought the original Pioneer DVD on Amazon.com marketplace (apparently in new condition) for 2 cents plus shipping :P |
| Tero 04.04.2007 00:02 |
tired old bunny wrote: Lordy.. 700k PCM? that's like mono. The standard is 1536 and 24 bit is probably even higher.Yeah... I admit I fucked that up and calculated as mono. With the standardised 16-bit LPCM stereo sound it takes up 89% of the disc. My point still stands as to all the audio options fitting on one disc, but yours doesn't, because you're forgetting one crucial element... There is a limit to how quickly the dvd-players can read the data, and I'm told it's just over 9000kbit/s. If you want to use a sound which takes up more than the 1500kbit/s like your basic LPCM or DTS surround sound, you're going to lose in the picture quality. You can have 24-bit & 96kHz LPCM sound if you want to, but it means cutting the picture from 7500kbit/s to 4500kbit/s to be able to actually view the thing! |
| Adam Baboolal 04.04.2007 10:21 |
I pray this doesn't turn into yet another of Inu's, 'I love bluray so much, I want its babies!' kinda threads. Every single time a dvd thread pops up, he feels the need to advertise BR. Adam. |
| g2000 04.04.2007 10:27 |
i agree with adam, in a couple of years theyll be able to upgrade the quality of picture and sound of queen at wembley, cant wait to see that again. Adam Im kidding. At the end of the day, and this has already been said, we are diehards and what we want is diferent to what the casual music buyer will want. Millionare Waltz, or say Bring Back that Leroy Brown in surround sound sounds great to me, but the majority of people would rather hear the hits. When that casual buyer picks up a dvd and sees those tracks along side say white queen, ogre battle, sweet lady, seriously would they buy it? No. but if youve got another bites the dust, under pressure, play the game, hits that they know theyll be more inclined to buy it. When all is said and done its called the music BUSINESS for a reason. And as a business queen have done very very well. Luckily, or sadly, what the minority of us think on a message board is irrelevant. In fact maybe thats a good thing as some of us would still have them making albums like its 1976 |
| Boy Thomas Raker 04.04.2007 10:44 |
Good points g2000. It's a fine line to walk, but I think that every decision that QP makes is good for business, bad for Queen, the group. Brian has complained on numerous occasions about the lack of respect accorded Queen by the music press. However, as a director of QP, Brian is as much at fault as the press for that lack of respect. Brian will spend countless hours on the mix for WWRY Montreal. but for what purposes? It's a concert that virtually every Queen fan has seen, and many of them already own it. So we'll get a better sound mix, which is no BFD for most people. Springsteen and Floyd had comprehensive packages for Born to Ron and DSOTM a few years back. They were definitive documents and something that Springsteen and Floyd fans would be proud to own. For ANATO, we got Brian strumming a harp and playing a koto and guitar for a few seconds. Oh, and stock footage of people running around the beach and astronauts. It was an embarrassing package for the diamond in the Queen catalogue. The lack of comparative effort compared to other 30 anniversary releases was obvious. But then again, QP doesn't care about die hard fans, but they want to sell product to housewives and middle managers by including their songs on every bad collection known to man. They've grown their sales exponentially, but legitimate critics would say Queen long ago stopped caring about their musical legacy, and became a big business. This latest release is a perfect example of that. |
| AlexRocks 04.04.2007 11:07 |
Thank God for big business. I think it has made Queen better than ever. Are you all about to die from old age? Why do you think you all won't live to see new releases from the archives? Patience folks. |
| AlexRocks 04.04.2007 11:09 |
If they could who would not want this on Blu-Ray disc where you could have the film, all the bonus features (if there are any), and audio all on side of one disc. Duh. That would be mindblowing! |
| Boy Thomas Raker 04.04.2007 11:24 |
AlexRocks wrote: Thank God for big business. I think it has made Queen better than ever. Are you all about to die from old age? Why do you think you all won't live to see new releases from the archives? Patience folks.Alex, please explain how has big business made Queen "better" than ever. Bigger than ever in sales, okay, but that has nothing to do with quality of music. |
| Lester Burnham 04.04.2007 11:35 |
AlexRocks wrote: If they could who would not want this on Blu-Ray disc where you could have the film, all the bonus features (if there are any), and audio all on side of one disc. Duh. That would be mindblowing!Oh for the love of mushrooms, all this crap about Blu-Ray again. Get it through your skull that QPL ARE NOT GOING TO BE PUTTING ANY OF THEIR STUFF ONTO BLU-RAY, AT LEAST NOT IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE!!!!! You might as well be talking about the auto industry building and producing flying cars, that's how probable it is that Queen will be putting their back catalog onto Blu-Ray discs! All you do is blather on endlessly about Blu-Ray -- do you work for them? Do you have anything to gain over mentioning Blu-Ray? Does it give you special powers? You sound like a conspiracy theorist nutcase who keeps harping on about Jesus coming back from the dead to solve our world problems. Every one of your posts that I've had the misfortune of reading, you mention Blu-Ray more than you mention Queen. Which are you more of a fan of -- Queen or Blu-Ray? If it's the former, THEN TALK ABOUT THEM AND GIVE THE BLU-RAY A BREAK! If it's the latter, then go masturbate somewhere else over the qualities of a 25 million gigabyte disc that cleans your house and walks your dog! Give it the fuck up, man, it ain't gonna happen. |
| Erin 04.04.2007 11:41 |
Lester Burnham wrote: If it's the latter, then go masturbate somewhere else over the qualities of a 25 million gigabyte disc that cleans your house and walks your dog!If it cleaned the house, then you would be having to tell me to shut up about BLU-RAAAAAAAY!!! ;-) |
| g2000 04.04.2007 11:44 |
lester lets not to be to hasty, i too would love blu ray, cant you imagine it: night at the opera on blu ray, queen at wembley on blu ray, greatest hits 1 & 2 on blu ray. now how exciting does that sound?? exactly! |
| Lester Burnham 04.04.2007 11:46 |
g2000 wrote: lester lets not to be to hasty, i too would love blu ray, cant you imagine it: night at the opera on blu ray, queen at wembley on blu ray, greatest hits 1 & 2 on blu ray. now how exciting does that sound?? exactly!Sure, I can imagine it, but I don't need it shoved down my throat in every one of Alex's posts. We get it, the guy wants to have Blu-Ray's manbabies, does it need to be mentioned in every single discussion? If anything, why doesn't he pester QPL instead of the good innocent people of QZ? P.S. BLU-RAY BLU-RAY BLU-RAY BLU-RAY BLU-RAY BLU-RAY BLU-RAY BLU-RAY BLU-RAY !!!!!!!!!! |
| Erin 04.04.2007 12:00 |
Lester Burnham wrote: We get it, the guy wants to have Blu-Ray's manbabies, does it need to be mentioned in every single discussion?;-D Alex might like this: link |
| KevoM 04.04.2007 12:16 |
Bohardy wrote: And Kevo will be pleased to hear that it's planned for the release to be on DVD, HD DVD, and Blu-Ray.You bet I am! HD-DVD for me as 'Blu Ray sucks' ;) |
| Maz 04.04.2007 12:33 |
AlexRocks wrote: Why do you think you all won't live to see new releases from the archives?As seen Parlophone's Let Me Live CD Single from 1997: "Taken from the forthcoming album Queen at the BBC" Their definition of "forthcoming" apparently replaces months with decades. |
| john bodega 04.04.2007 13:07 |
Honestly... fuck blu-ray and fuck hd-dvd. I'm happy with what I've got. I kinda like that episode of Futurama where the entire library is two CDs. One labeled A-K, the other labeled L-Z. Heh. |
| PieterMC 04.04.2007 13:12 |
Zeni wrote: As seen Parlophone's Let Me Live CD Single from 1997: "Taken from the forthcoming album Queen at the BBC" Their definition of "forthcoming" apparently replaces months with decades.Let's not forget that this release was pulled because Jim Beach did not want to "flood" the market..... |
| Adam Baboolal 04.04.2007 13:19 |
Queen at the Beeb? Yeah, I have that. Was it supposed to be a UK release? Adam. |
| Maz 04.04.2007 13:29 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Queen at the Beeb? Yeah, I have that. Was it supposed to be a UK release? Adam."Queen at the Beeb" came out in 1989 on a small EMI (Band of Joy) label and featured the first 2 BBC sessions. It was later released by Hollywood around 1995 as "Queen at the BBC". But the Let Me Live CD Single from early 1997 refers to another project altogether. This "Queen At the BBC" was supposed to be every Queen BBC session recorded, all six of them, most likely due out later that year. As Pieter said, Beach did not want to "flood the market," which Queen fans have thrown back in his face after every GH compilation package that's come out since then. And still a decade later, I'm waiting for Queen's BBC version of WWRY in CD quality. |
| Bobby_brown 04.04.2007 13:32 |
YourValentine wrote: There is always the option to not buy it. I am not telling anyone to boycott the new DVD but I have done it in the past and it's a good feeling to free oneself from the compulsion to buy anything with the Queen name on it. For example, I did not buy the Freddie Tribute, it is only half the concert and the screen is cropped. I did not buy the ROTC DVD because I was just appalled by the promo and there was virtually no extra. I am not buying any CDs with copy protection that makes them sub audio CD standard. This reduced my CD purchases by 80% but I don't care - I am not spending my hard earned money on substandard overpriced products anymore. Sooner or later the music industry will get the message and realize that it's not the teenagers buying Crazy Frog who will fill their pockets in the long run - it's the music addicts who want a decent product for their money. If the customers do not get the message across, we will soon get all new releases as ring tones, only. Btw, Jailhouse Rock is on both pioneer releases. The new set list is identical with the pioneer versions.Great post! I feel that nowadays bootlegers put more passion and energy in their releases that QueenProductions. Wasn´t there two versions of the Freddie Mercury tribute with one being better than the other? - Or am i confusing with the George Michael best of DVD "Somebody to Love"? As far as this DVD goes, the only thing that will make me write them a good mail is if they decide to change the title of the DVD. They should keep the title so people know if they already have that concert or not, and they should have a goog backsleeve notes explaining this release, the differences, etc. If they decide to change the title to "Live in Montreal" or other then it´s obvious what´s happening and we (fans and music lovers in general) should let them know that this isn´t the right way to behave. But let´s just wait and see! Take care |
| Deacon Fan 04.04.2007 14:23 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: I pray this doesn't turn into yet another of Inu's, 'I love bluray so much, I want its babies!' kinda threads. Every single time a dvd thread pops up, he feels the need to advertise BR. Adam.Well I was the first to mention that they might be planning on Blu-Ray or HD since the Eagle Rock site has some titles in both formats. Bohardy was next.. What's wrong with being excited about a new technology? Seems to me he was just ahead of his time. I'd rather read that stuff than the personal back and forth nonsense that so many threads turn into, even in 'Serious' discussion. :) |
| PieterMC 04.04.2007 14:32 |
Zeni wrote: And still a decade later, I'm waiting for Queen's BBC version of WWRY in CD quality.It makes me laugh that the BBC Version of WWRY (fast version) was given away on a free CD from The Sun newspaper. I guess QP had no morals when promoting the musical. |
| Maz 04.04.2007 15:57 |
And it was a neutered version of WWRY at that. First sell your soul to the devil to promote the musical, then slaughter your best version of a famous song for easy consumption, and finally do it all for free. God, I hated that CD on so many levels. |
| bigV 04.04.2007 16:19 |
I wonder if they DID release the BBC sessions in their entirety, would they keep the reading between WWRY Slow and WWRY Fast... My bet is on NO. But what do I know about showBUSINESS? V. |
| Penetration_Guru 04.04.2007 16:52 |
<b><FONT SIZE=4>Inu-Liger</b> wrote: I would lean more towards having a Blu-Ray release (on 50GB dual-layer format with PCM 5.1 surround sound!) than on HD DVD, since HD DVD sucks.Ah, the reasoned argument. |
| Penetration_Guru 04.04.2007 16:54 |
AlexRocks wrote: If they could who would not want this on Blu-Ray disc where you could have the film, all the bonus features (if there are any), and audio all on side of one disc. Duh. That would be mindblowing!Sorry, but my mind wasn't blown when CDs removed the need to turn over vinyl, and the situation you describe is identical. |
| thetman 04.04.2007 18:57 |
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| thetman 04.04.2007 18:57 |
thetman wrote: I would lean more towards having a Blu-Ray release (on 50GB dual-layer format with PCM 5.1 surround sound!) than on HD DVD, since HD DVD sucks. your kidding right? time to get your eyes checked then thetman |
| [ Wybren™ ] 05.04.2007 06:56 |
Tero wrote: 3) We voice our concerns early enough so Brian May can personally make sure we'll get a great dvd with lots of extrasHmz... Good point, but I don't think a petition will work... but hell we could try to get the Flash Medley on this release. Does anyone know for sure it's been played on either of the nights? I'll be the first to sign that petition btw. |
| Michael Allred 05.04.2007 14:00 |
Why do people keep bringing up this "flash medley" in relation to the two nights they played in Montreal, filmed for this release? Before this thread, I had never even heard of this being performed on either night and have yet to see any evidence that they did. Did someone start a rumor on here again? Anyway, back to this re-re-re-re-re-release, I DO hope they'll use the transfer on the last DVD because it's virtually pristine but here's something else, let's not forget this was a NEW edit of the concert. We all know the show was filmed over two nights and they (for whatever reason) mixed and matched the audio from one night with the video of another sometimes making it look a bit...dodgy. Remember the awful out of sync part during "Killer Queen" where we could hear Freddie singing but his lips were clearly not moving? The last DVD thankfully fixed that part with a new edit. I hope they keep that in. |
| Lester Burnham 05.04.2007 14:07 |
Michael Allred wrote: Why do people keep bringing up this "flash medley" in relation to the two nights they played in Montreal, filmed for this release? Before this thread, I had never even heard of this being performed on either night and have yet to see any evidence that they did. Did someone start a rumor on here again?On Queenconcerts.com, Martin states he has a bootleg from those nights where they did play the Flash medley. |
| PieterMC 05.04.2007 14:20 |
Lester Burnham wrote: On Queenconcerts.com, Martin states he has a bootleg from those nights where they did play the Flash medley.link |
| [ Wybren™ ] 05.04.2007 14:33 |
Michael Allred wrote: Why do people keep bringing up this "flash medley" in relation to the two nights they played in Montreal, filmed for this release? Before this thread, I had never even heard of this being performed on either night and have yet to see any evidence that they did. Did someone start a rumor on here again?They should put something new on this release and release complete concerts like they did previously (Wembley and Milton Keynes). I thought QP wouldn't release incomplete concerts again, but after ROTC everything is possible:S And even if they don't have it on film (Which I highly doubt, since I can't believe they didn't film it on either of the nights) they should release it on the audio CD and as some kind of photo gallery thing on the DVD... any thought? |
| TheGuvnor 05.04.2007 15:16 |
Michael Allred wrote: Anyway, back to this re-re-re-re-re-release, I DO hope they'll use the transfer on the last DVD because it's virtually pristine but here's something else, let's not forget this was a NEW edit of the concert. We all know the show was filmed over two nights and they (for whatever reason) mixed and matched the audio from one night with the video of another sometimes making it look a bit...dodgy. Remember the awful out of sync part during "Killer Queen" where we could hear Freddie singing but his lips were clearly not moving? The last DVD thankfully fixed that part with a new edit. I hope they keep that in.Yes they fixed it - but not by going back to the video source and chosing the REAL footage that belonged to that audio. They simply copied the "Guaranteed to blow your mind" video from the other chorus. In other words: He sings the "Guaranteed to blow your mind" part two times during the song and we see the same video both times. So the big question is: do they still have the complete video from both nights or do they only have the footage they used for the old releases? I have to agree, it's not a good idea to release this concert again. The picture quality is amazing and I'm quite happy with the dts track. I don't know if this was mentioned before, but they have sold more than 200.000 units of the 2001 release. So I doubt that the re-release will be a success if they really just release the same show again. |
| Michael Allred 05.04.2007 17:04 |
Lester Burnham wrote:Yes, one guy says it's true.....ok, I believe it instantly!Michael Allred wrote: Why do people keep bringing up this "flash medley" in relation to the two nights they played in Montreal, filmed for this release? Before this thread, I had never even heard of this being performed on either night and have yet to see any evidence that they did. Did someone start a rumor on here again?On Queenconcerts.com, Martin states he has a bootleg from those nights where they did play the Flash medley. I'm not going to rely on one person's word. Either someone can offer up 100% proof they played those two songs that night or perhaps Brian himself can confirm on his soapbox. Until then it's just a web site making that claim and I see no reason why I should just believe everything they say. |
| bigV 05.04.2007 17:44 |
Michael Allred wrote:Sure. Just one problem with your logic there mate.Lester Burnham wrote:Yes, one guy says it's true.....ok, I believe it instantly! I'm not going to rely on one person's word. Either someone can offer up 100% proof they played those two songs that night or perhaps Brian himself can confirm on his soapbox. Until then it's just a web site making that claim and I see no reason why I should just believe everything they say.Michael Allred wrote: Why do people keep bringing up this "flash medley" in relation to the two nights they played in Montreal, filmed for this release? Before this thread, I had never even heard of this being performed on either night and have yet to see any evidence that they did. Did someone start a rumor on here again?On Queenconcerts.com, Martin states he has a bootleg from those nights where they did play the Flash medley. Martin happens to be the most universally acknowledged expert on Queen concerts in the world. Greg's book "QueenLive" is light night reading compared to QueenConcerts.com. If Greg Brooks or even Brian May came to me and said "Hey, Flash wasn't on the setlist that night" and Martin says otherwise I'd bet on Martin. V. |
| PieterMC 05.04.2007 18:16 |
Michael Allred wrote:He has a recording of it. What more proof do you need?Lester Burnham wrote:Yes, one guy says it's true.....ok, I believe it instantly! I'm not going to rely on one person's word. Either someone can offer up 100% proof they played those two songs that night or perhaps Brian himself can confirm on his soapbox. Until then it's just a web site making that claim and I see no reason why I should just believe everything they say.Michael Allred wrote: Why do people keep bringing up this "flash medley" in relation to the two nights they played in Montreal, filmed for this release? Before this thread, I had never even heard of this being performed on either night and have yet to see any evidence that they did. Did someone start a rumor on here again?On Queenconcerts.com, Martin states he has a bootleg from those nights where they did play the Flash medley. |
| Michael Allred 05.04.2007 20:40 |
PieterMC wrote:Well I could say I'd have to hear it first...I could also say how can one prove the recording is from the night in question?Michael Allred wrote:He has a recording of it. What more proof do you need?Lester Burnham wrote:Yes, one guy says it's true.....ok, I believe it instantly! I'm not going to rely on one person's word. Either someone can offer up 100% proof they played those two songs that night or perhaps Brian himself can confirm on his soapbox. Until then it's just a web site making that claim and I see no reason why I should just believe everything they say.Michael Allred wrote: Why do people keep bringing up this "flash medley" in relation to the two nights they played in Montreal, filmed for this release? Before this thread, I had never even heard of this being performed on either night and have yet to see any evidence that they did. Did someone start a rumor on here again?On Queenconcerts.com, Martin states he has a bootleg from those nights where they did play the Flash medley. |
| Michael Allred 05.04.2007 20:41 |
bigV wrote:"Universally acknowledged?" So everyone feels he is THE expert?Michael Allred wrote:Sure. Just one problem with your logic there mate. Martin happens to be the most universally acknowledged expert on Queen concerts in the world. Greg's book "QueenLive" is light night reading compared to QueenConcerts.com. If Greg Brooks or even Brian May came to me and said "Hey, Flash wasn't on the setlist that night" and Martin says otherwise I'd bet on Martin. V.Lester Burnham wrote:Yes, one guy says it's true.....ok, I believe it instantly! I'm not going to rely on one person's word. Either someone can offer up 100% proof they played those two songs that night or perhaps Brian himself can confirm on his soapbox. Until then it's just a web site making that claim and I see no reason why I should just believe everything they say.Michael Allred wrote: Why do people keep bringing up this "flash medley" in relation to the two nights they played in Montreal, filmed for this release? Before this thread, I had never even heard of this being performed on either night and have yet to see any evidence that they did. Did someone start a rumor on here again?On Queenconcerts.com, Martin states he has a bootleg from those nights where they did play the Flash medley. Are experts ever wrong? Just curious. |
| Mr. Scully 06.04.2007 06:04 |
Flash/The Hero is part of the audience recording we have. It's definitely not a rare recording so perhaps other owners of the recording could check if there's an audible cut before Flash medley or not. I don't have this CD with me at the moment. Everybody can be wrong, me included - especially after I've spent the last few years focusing more on tour memorabilia than recordings. More and more collectors know a lot about recordings, especially Dutch teenagers (no offence!). But this discussion "Flash yes or no" seems ridiculous to me. Unless somebody *proves* that the audience recording is fake, I see no reason why anybody could voice doubts if Flash was or wasn't played in Montreal. The question currently isn't "was or wasn't played", it is "will or won't be on the DVD" (and the answer is almost certainly "won't"). |
| bigV 06.04.2007 06:08 |
Michael Allred wrote: "Universally acknowledged?" So everyone feels he is THE expert? Are experts ever wrong? Just curious.That's why he's THE expert. V. |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 06.04.2007 08:01 |
Mr. Scully wrote: ... Everybody can be wrong, me included ...No, you can't :) * if this board had the feature to do so, I would include the video of Brian answering Roger's request to go to lunch on the GVHII spot: "No, you can't" :) * Cheers, Ogre- |
| bigV 06.04.2007 08:05 |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:If you were serious about it you could've cropped the video, uploaded it to YouTube and posted the link here. Still it was pretty funny what you wrote just then ;)Mr. Scully wrote: ... Everybody can be wrong, me included ...No, you can't :) * if this board had the feature to do so, I would include the video of Brian answering Roger's request to go to lunch on the GVHII spot: "No, you can't" :) * Cheers, Ogre- V. |
| Gr8 King Rat 06.04.2007 13:49 |
I cant believe they're releasing this AGAIN! What is this? the 4th or 5th time? |
| bitesthedust 06.04.2007 14:40 |
PieterMC wrote:Clearly not, but I got that free CD - with the studio and musical versions included, just for the BBC fast version (albeit edited).Zeni wrote: And still a decade later, I'm waiting for Queen's BBC version of WWRY in CD quality.It makes me laugh that the BBC Version of WWRY (fast version) was given away on a free CD from The Sun newspaper. I guess QP had no morals when promoting the musical. |
| bitesthedust 06.04.2007 14:44 |
bigV wrote: I wonder if they DID release the BBC sessions in their entirety, would they keep the reading between WWRY Slow and WWRY Fast... My bet is on NO. But what do I know about showBUSINESS? V.I reckon Queen Productions would include The March Of The Black Queen though. |
| Queenland 09.04.2007 08:02 |
I also have the unedited audience source and can re-confirm that the first night (24/11) has Flash/The Hero: link There are no fake edits on it. Allright, the audience recording is not strictly "unedited" because it's not 100% complete ;-) I mean it has no intentional cuts/edits. |
| bigV 11.04.2007 06:21 |
Is it possible that Queen decided to release a concert from Montreal to promote the Musical opening in Canada this year? V. |
| Adam Baboolal 11.04.2007 07:09 |
Maybe promote is the wrong description. To coincide with the musical opening means people are hungry for Queen material and the Montreal release is a perfect release for that area. Adam. |
| john bodega 11.04.2007 07:44 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Maybe promote is the wrong description. To coincide with the musical opening means people are hungry for Queen material and the Montreal release is a perfect release for that area. Adam.Agreed... if they wanted to directly promote the musical they'd simply load the DVD with stuff related to it. Same thing happened with Star Wars DVDs. |
| bigV 11.04.2007 09:50 |
Zebonka12 wrote:They still might. Remember the "Made In Heaven Films" DVD from a few years ago. It had nothing to do with the Musical whatsoever, but they stuck a documentary about it on the DVD anyway. So don't be surprised if we see a Musical promo on the Montreal DVD.Adam Baboolal wrote: Maybe promote is the wrong description. To coincide with the musical opening means people are hungry for Queen material and the Montreal release is a perfect release for that area. Adam.Agreed... if they wanted to directly promote the musical they'd simply load the DVD with stuff related to it. Same thing happened with Star Wars DVDs. V. |
| vinny2256_ 11.04.2007 13:02 |
Good concert but the audience sound wasn't so good. hopefully it'll be better this time around. |
| Bobby_brown 11.04.2007 14:03 |
vinny2256_ wrote: Good concert but the audience sound wasn't so good. hopefully it'll be better this time around.The sound of the audience was good. The reason you don´t hear them is because they´re quiet all the way through!! One of the worst audiences ever. Even the band noticed their lack of reaction to some of their songs. Take care |
| NTL 11.04.2007 15:55 |
The audience sounds fine on the bootleg, nothing special but 1000x better than the official release. |
| popy 11.04.2007 17:12 |
if they release this as a FULL show and with a 2nd disc of very good extras, then i'll buy it (e-mail already sent to QPL, but no answer untill now, does anyone have ever sent an e-mail to QPL and got an aswaer?) my opinion is that they have much more important things to release.. and i'n not talking about hammy 75 or 79... or houston..or rainbow... yes, it's the GVH 3 video collection GVH 1 was released in 2001,GVH 2 in 2003 and by that time I thought 2005 for GVH 3. with the announced Montreal 81 this year, at least GVH 3 get's is release in 2008....maybe! more than 7 years to complete the GVH Video Collection it's WAY TO MUCH! i hope the GVH 3 doens't end up like the famous box sets that everyone knows it's being released...but no-one knows when |
| fightingdove 14.04.2007 14:21 |
Bobby_brown wrote:hahaha! Here's a lovely thread all about that particular audience.vinny2256_ wrote: Good concert but the audience sound wasn't so good. hopefully it'll be better this time around.The sound of the audience was good. The reason you don´t hear them is because they´re quiet all the way through!! One of the worst audiences ever. Even the band noticed their lack of reaction to some of their songs. Take care link |
| bitesthedust 15.04.2007 14:27 |
I am disappointed that Queen Productions have chosen to re-re-release this particular show, not in complete form either. However, I will get the CD when it is released. I won't be buying the DVD as I already have the Pioneer version (and formerly owned the VHS, too). But I think YourValentine sums it up perfectly. I did not buy the Made In Heaven: The Films DVD upon its release as I have a perfectly acceptable VHS copy, and I was not tempted into buying the DVD just for unrelated extras concerning the We Will Rock You musical. In terms of any future releases, aside from the Rainbow November 1974 VHS - I believe it is unlikely any pre-1977 shows will be released on CD/DVD because they are not appealing to the casual fan in the street who may only own any of the Greatest Hits albums. Lastly, concerning a possible Greatest Video Hits 3 DVD - aside from the Innuendo & Made In Heaven (Doro), and Queen Rocks videos, what else from the 90s is there available to include? |
| Adam Baboolal 15.04.2007 15:01 |
Well, GH3 was a Queen + album, yeah? So, they could easily add in plenty of live collabs. But yeah, missing the idea of GVH3. Want those surround mixes of things like Innuendo or Let Me Live!! |
| KevMull 15.04.2007 19:21 |
Gr8 King Rat wrote: I cant believe they're releasing this AGAIN! What is this? the 4th or 5th time?Twice on DVD and only in North America and previously by Pioneer. I think QPL should be commended for giving it a worldwide release on DVD for the first time ever. |
| Adam Baboolal 16.04.2007 11:43 |
KevMull wrote:EXACTLY! QPL just got the rights to release it.Gr8 King Rat wrote: I cant believe they're releasing this AGAIN! What is this? the 4th or 5th time?Twice on DVD and only in North America and previously by Pioneer. I think QPL should be commended for giving it a worldwide release on DVD for the first time ever. |
| MercuryArts 16.04.2007 12:57 |
This is a major let down. I bought the VHS re-release in 1992 or 1993. Then bought the dvd re-release in 2003 or whenever it came out. Why on God's green earth would I buy it again? The 2nd disc would have to have some stellar bonus material to even be considered. |
| Fenderek 19.04.2007 19:03 |
It probably WILL be a good DVD, quality wise, anyway... Will I buy it...? Don't know- don't listen too much Queen these days... Maybe if the SECOND disc is loaded with some exciting stuff... But I remember very well how we were waiting for extras opn both Milton Keynes and ROTC and how litle wqe actually got... Wake me up for box sets or some UNRELEASED before gig... Or the album with Paul; at the moment I'm really excited about new Dream theater album... |
| The Real Wizard 20.04.2007 01:56 |
Fenderek wrote: Wake me up for box sets or some UNRELEASED before gig... Or the album with Paul; at the moment I'm really excited about new Dream theater album...You and me both! |
| willem-jan 8923 20.04.2007 03:26 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Count me in as well :)Fenderek wrote: Wake me up for box sets or some UNRELEASED before gig... Or the album with Paul; at the moment I'm really excited about new Dream theater album...You and me both! I hope the limited edition is a 2 disc version, since I'd like to be able to listen to it in the car as well. Otherwise I'll end up buying two copies, since I definitely want to see this documentary and therefore have to buy the limited one. I'd love to listen to the 5.1 version of the album as well, but I don't have a 5.1 set at home. :( I hardly listen to Queen these days as well. There's so much more to listen to. |
| Jimi 2 20.04.2007 07:41 |
I have my doubts about this 'bonus' material second disc. I mean if they are going to continue stuffing bits and pieces on these second rate releases the box sets will continue to be diluted to such an extent. The main problem i have is that this concert \9and not a particularly great one) is a re release whichever way you dress it up. Everybody i know has seen it / is very familiar with it so i'm not sure where the market for it is. God help us if Budapest then Rio are on the cards. |
| Jjeroen 20.04.2007 11:44 |
Press-release from Eagle Vision suggests that this release, which according to the same press-release will be called "Live in Montreal", will be a SINGLE DISC! |
| Erin 20.04.2007 11:51 |
jeroen wrote: Press-release from Eagle Vision suggests that this release, which is according to the same press-release will be called "Live in Montreal", will be a SINGLE DISC!I hope that's an error! :-S |
| john bodega 20.04.2007 13:06 |
Whatever it is the folks in charge are smoking..... I want some. This is the loopiest shit I've heard all day. |
| Mustapha_Ibrahim 20.04.2007 14:10 |
jeroen wrote: Press-release from Eagle Vision suggests that this release, which according to the same press-release will be called "Live in Montreal", will be a SINGLE DISC!WTF?! Well, this is it... I won't buy it, and I hope many others follow me. Maybe QP will get the message and release something worth their time and ur money... |
| Roy ® 20.04.2007 14:33 |
Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote:Ehh, I think we "die hard" fans are only 5% of the persons who buys Queen stuff. I don't think QP will notice it when we don't buy it.jeroen wrote: Press-release from Eagle Vision suggests that this release, which according to the same press-release will be called "Live in Montreal", will be a SINGLE DISC!WTF?! Well, this is it... I won't buy it, and I hope many others follow me. Maybe QP will get the message and release something worth their time and ur money... |
| TheGame 20.04.2007 14:35 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Whatever it is the folks in charge are smoking..... I want some. This is the loopiest shit I've heard all day.LOL, i'll 2.nd that. If these rumours/facts? are true, I wont buy this one for sure. I've had enough of this crap. They could atleast released a bit more exciting 1 disc dvd live concert! |
| YourValentine 20.04.2007 16:10 |
At least I won't be tempted to buy it for a second disc with some 10 minutes of "bonus" material... |
| willem-jan 8923 20.04.2007 16:28 |
I'm actually quite happy the most recent purchase of this show is my 15 year old VHS copy. I'm considering to buy this release (if the price is right). |
| Bobby_brown 20.04.2007 16:42 |
Well, they finally changed the title! Now it´s gonna be fun to watch some regular fans reaction when they get home with the new DVD and realize that they´ve already bought it some years ago ; ) This is going to do wonders to Queen popularity. Really, i never thought that Queen would do such thing and i hope they reconsider their path in this industry. Take care |
| Wiley 20.04.2007 16:46 |
Damn. It better have the best damn packaging I've ever seen, the greatest quality in video AND audio ever seen by the human eye or... well, something worth buying. Or if you tell me that this is the first series of a low cost single disc DVD concert collection aside from the 2-DVD releases that will include some 70's materials in the near future, I might feel a bit happy about this. Come on, I'm not that much of a demanding consumer. Not too hard to please me with Queen releases :S. Oh, crap. JCW |
| iron eagle 20.04.2007 17:49 |
the bonus tracks WWRY-- the london cast WWRY-- the unemployed vegas cast WWRY- the three tenors operatic mix WWRY-the explosive 5ive remix WWRY--DJ Mix a lot sexy remix WWRY- Beyonce, Pink and Britney--the bubbly soft drink mix WWRY- the Robbie Williams Knight is shining armour mix WWRY- the fast version Live and finally WWRY- You cant stop the rock mix also included are two interviews from B and R --extended footage from the interviews shown on Q On Fire Live at the Bowl and finally a chart will be included to gauge the progress on the box sets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant wait! |
| Adam Baboolal 20.04.2007 20:04 |
So much for waiting to see what they actually release before passing judgement. Same story with the mee-ga fans. Adam. |
| Nathan 20.04.2007 20:09 |
I will definitely be buying the accompanying CD release but I think I'll wait for reviews on the DVD before I click "Add to Shopping Basket." |
| Boy Thomas Raker 20.04.2007 22:02 |
This discussion has been had many times before with people jumping to conclusions based on early info on upcoming Queen releases. Unfortunately, virtually everything that people have complained about in advance has unfortunately been realized, so QP haven't got much goodwill. They've fucked up so many times they've lost the benefit of the doubt from a good percentage of posters at this site. |
| Erin 20.04.2007 23:56 |
iron eagle wrote: the bonus tracks WWRY-- the london cast WWRY-- the unemployed vegas cast WWRY- the three tenors operatic mix WWRY-the explosive 5ive remix WWRY--DJ Mix a lot sexy remix WWRY- Beyonce, Pink and Britney--the bubbly soft drink mix WWRY- the Robbie Williams Knight is shining armour mix WWRY- the fast version Live and finally WWRY- You cant stop the rock mix also included are two interviews from B and R --extended footage from the interviews shown on Q On Fire Live at the Bowl and finally a chart will be included to gauge the progress on the box sets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant wait!OOOHHH!!! That will definitely make the purchase worthwhile! ;-D |
| The Real Wizard 21.04.2007 00:11 |
Roy ® wrote: Ehh, I think we "die hard" fans are only 5% of the persons who buys Queen stuff. I don't think QP will notice it when we don't buy it.I'd say we're significantly less than 5%. More like 0.01%. |
| john bodega 21.04.2007 02:07 |
I have this vague vision of QP. A bunch of be-suited individuals in blindfolds throwing darts at a board; the landing position of said darts being what dictates the next release. |
| Roy ® 21.04.2007 05:10 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:I agree with that :)Roy ® wrote: Ehh, I think we "die hard" fans are only 5% of the persons who buys Queen stuff. I don't think QP will notice it when we don't buy it.I'd say we're significantly less than 5%. More like 0.01%. |
| Bohardy 21.04.2007 10:40 |
I did say, two and a half weeks ago, that the plan was for a single disc DVD... --------------------------- posted 4/3/2007 1:44:22 PM Profile Edit At present, from what I know, the plan is for the DVD to be a single-disc, although extras (such as something from South America, and contemporary interviews) are being looked at. And Kevo will be pleased to hear that it's planned for the release to be on DVD, HD DVD, and Blu-Ray. |
| on my way up 21.04.2007 16:01 |
I really hope they find the multi-track from Hammersmith '79. That would make an incredible DVD.Freddie's voice in fantastic shape, a great atmosphere, a wonderful setlist,brian's solo, roger's version of I'm in love with my car, the superman, fantastic version of WATC,.. I also hope they find some new footage so that one day we will have an amazing live box like the Led Zeppelin one. I also hope they will release a Hammersmith '75 DVD and Earl's court:-) |
| goinback 21.04.2007 16:49 |
I tend to avoid this forum and haven't posted for a year, but saw this new DVD was coming out and this thread came up with a search. Two main points stick in my mind about the current WWRY DVD: 1. I remember Brian May wanted to remix the sound for the DVD because he was unhappy with it, but this is one show QP don't own the rights to, and either director Saul Swimmer or other people wouldn't let Brian redo the sound. 2. Saul Swimmer (sp?) died recently. After hearing Saul passed away, I naturally wondered if this show would finally be released the way Brian wants it. Low and behold, I just happen to see it on the internet today as being scheduled for re-release. So I'm assuming - especially since there's going to be an CD edition for the first time - Brian will be remixing it properly finally. (On the other hand, QP could go against all logic like they sometimes do and just re-release the same thing :) I'm surprised Brian hasn't said anything about this though. |
| Wiley 23.04.2007 10:42 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I have this vague vision of QP. A bunch of be-suited individuals in blindfolds throwing darts at a board; the landing position of said darts being what dictates the next release.No, that would mean we'd get a good chance to have 70's DVDs released, if the releases were uniformly distributed over the board. Not really. I see them more like a bunch of greedy producers and officals wanting to get the most money out of a limited amount of material, like those QP bastards... no wait :S. What was I talking about? Wiley |
| john bodega 23.04.2007 10:56 |
"No, that would mean we'd get a good chance to have 70's DVDs released, if the releases were uniformly distributed over the board." Who says they are even in the same room? Probably pinned to a bulletin board in the corridor :) |
| Wiley 23.04.2007 13:35 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Probably pinned to a bulletin board in the corridor :)So there is hope. :) Still, I don't like that "darts over board" approach to selecting future Queen releases. I would expect something more sophisticated from Queen. Something like "a bunch of manatees swimming in a huge tank by Jim Beach's office, randomly selecting plastic balls with dates and venues of the concert to be released next". Wiley |
| Wiley 23.04.2007 13:35 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Probably pinned to a bulletin board in the corridor :)So there is hope. :) Still, I don't like that "darts over board" approach to selecting future Queen releases. I would expect something more sophisticated from Queen. Something like "a bunch of manatees swimming in a huge tank by Jim Beach's office, randomly selecting plastic balls with dates and venues of the concert to be released next". Now THAT would work! Wiley |
| NTL 23.04.2007 16:33 |
I would actually be very suprised if we dont see at least highlights of the South American shows on a second disc. Unless we get a live compilation DVD at some point, this is going to be the only chance to put this stuff out, because lets face it, there is no way any of these shows will get a main feature release. And I dont know if anyone else has noticed but Greg seems very interested in finding stuff from '81. Im pretty sure QP are not as stupid as we all think and realise this release MUST have extras. |
| PieterMC 23.04.2007 16:41 |
NTL wrote: Im pretty sure QP are not as stupid as we all thinkAre you sure about that? |
| Bohardy 23.04.2007 19:32 |
NTL wrote: I would actually be very suprised if we dont see at least highlights of the South American shows on a second disc. Unless we get a live compilation DVD at some point, this is going to be the only chance to put this stuff out, because lets face it, there is no way any of these shows will get a main feature release. And I dont know if anyone else has noticed but Greg seems very interested in finding stuff from '81. Im pretty sure QP are not as stupid as we all think and realise this release MUST have extras.Two things: - The DVD (and Blu Ray, and HD-DVD) is scheduled to have NO SECOND DISC - As I mentioned earlier, the disc is, however, still intended to have extras, and South American highlights, particularly Morumbi, are being focussed on. |
| YourValentine 24.04.2007 04:25 |
Steve- does that mean that the extras are just on the (bigger) Blu Ray and HD DVD discs? - that would be an "exclusive" release... |
| Bohardy 24.04.2007 19:37 |
I've heard nothing about an 'exclusive release'. Is there something I'm missing? All I've heard so far (and the info I've had from the same source has been spot-on up to now) is what I've said; the release is intended to be for single disc, on 3 formats, and with (predominantly South American) extras on the same single disc. |
| KevoM 26.04.2007 07:47 |
I wonder if they will remove the original title 'We Will Rock You' from the opening titles? Saul Swimmer + grave = Turning ! |
| john bodega 26.04.2007 09:15 |
KevoM wrote: I wonder if they will remove the original title 'We Will Rock You' from the opening titles? Saul Swimmer + grave = Turning !It was never a compelling title anyway. Sounds more like the kind of name you'd give a b-grade musical. (just jokes - geeze!) |
| goinback 26.04.2007 16:28 |
KevoM wrote: I wonder if they will remove the original title 'We Will Rock You' from the opening titles? Saul Swimmer + grave = Turning !I remember on the Budapest VHS they didn't remove the "Live Magic" title or whatever (which was confusing when I bought it! I had to check and make sure I had the right tape)...they just don't care :) |
| willem-jan 8923 27.04.2007 18:42 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:And the first track is available for download:Fenderek wrote: Wake me up for box sets or some UNRELEASED before gig... Or the album with Paul; at the moment I'm really excited about new Dream theater album...You and me both! link After 1 listen, I'm already completely into it. Something that didn't happen when Octavarium leaked. Can't wait for the rest. The new album is going to kick some ass! |
| The Real Wizard 28.04.2007 00:10 |
willem-jan wrote: And the first track is available for download: link After 1 listen, I'm already completely into it. Something that didn't happen when Octavarium leaked. Can't wait for the rest. The new album is going to kick some ass!Thanks for posting, but I already got it, a few minutes before I opened up this topic! The song is alright, but it sounds derivative. Same old Dream Theater. I really hope the whole album isn't like this. If so, then it would be the first album where the band didn't try out new directions, and that would be horribly disappointing for me. |
| willem-jan 8923 28.04.2007 03:51 |
Well, that's what Mike told some months ago: the new album would sound like a mix of all their different styles up to now. So I guess it's going to sound familiar in a way. To me this song sounds somewhat like the ToT album, with some awake feeling to it. |
| thomasquinn 32989 28.04.2007 08:37 |
What I'm wondering with regards to the tracklist...why were Flash/The Hero cut from it? |
| Liquid Scream 28.04.2007 12:30 |
Why didn't they play Fat Bottomed Girls at these shows is what I wanna know?? |
| The Real Wizard 29.04.2007 01:55 |
Liquid Scream wrote: Why didn't they play Fat Bottomed Girls at these shows is what I wanna know??No clue... but they had already dropped it for the Venezuelan and Mexican shows. |
| bitesthedust 29.04.2007 04:07 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: What I'm wondering with regards to the tracklist...why were Flash/The Hero cut from it?Goodness knows. Hopefully someone with a bit of knowledge will inform us. Ultimately the release is a compliation of both nights, as opposed to one complete show. |
| Mr Faron Hyte 29.04.2007 14:46 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It was never a compelling title anyway. Sounds more like the kind of name you'd give a b-grade musical. (just jokes - geeze!)All musicals are b-grade. The entire genre is intrinsicly ridiculous and impossible to take seriously. |
| goinback 29.04.2007 15:54 |
Was Flash/The Hero from the beginning of the show? If so it seems like they had to pick one intro over the other... I can't imagine how they would edit it together and make it look seamless with the intro lighting choreography. It would be nice as an extra feature but may be difficult to find since MobileVision had nothing to do QP unfortunately. |
| thomasquinn 32989 30.04.2007 08:29 |
goinback wrote: Was Flash/The Hero from the beginning of the show? If so it seems like they had to pick one intro over the other... I can't imagine how they would edit it together and make it look seamless with the intro lighting choreography. It would be nice as an extra feature but may be difficult to find since MobileVision had nothing to do QP unfortunately.Nope, in the middle. |
| thomasquinn 32989 30.04.2007 08:30 |
<font color=maroon>bitesthedust wrote: Ultimately the release is a compliation of both nights, as opposed to one complete show.That's the original DVD/video release, which wasn't by QP. They *could* have used just the footage of one of the two nights, though I doubt they've bothered. |
| Delilah 04.05.2007 20:21 |
I was at that show....it wasn't their best effort (and I mean both nights), none of them wanted to be there (although Roger had fun with the French Canadian ladies ;) Still, I suppose the show beats 99% of the crap you pay $200/night to see these days. |
| Delilah 04.05.2007 20:28 |
I was at that show....it wasn't their best effort (and I mean both nights), none of them wanted to be there (although Roger had fun with the French Canadian ladies ;) Still, I suppose the show beats 99% of the crap you pay $200/night to see these days. |
| Fmarton 06.05.2007 09:32 |
It is said that they no longer have the individula camera reels, becouse those tapes were destroyed after they made the final mix, and that's why this release won't feature one of the two shows.But if those tapes were destroyed after the 1984 release, how was it posible to put the song Jailhouse rock for the 1989 release. |
| bitesthedust 06.05.2007 14:34 |
Why re-release the show if it's not complete from one particular night...? |
| Smitty 06.05.2007 20:15 |
bitesthedust wrote: Why re-release the show if it's not complete from one particular night...?$ |
| goinback 07.05.2007 16:55 |
Fmarton wrote: It is said that they no longer have the individula camera reels, becouse those tapes were destroyed after they made the final mix, and that's why this release won't feature one of the two shows.But if those tapes were destroyed after the 1984 release, how was it posible to put the song Jailhouse rock for the 1989 release.I was wondering that as well :) Unless they made two final versions - one with Jailhouse and one without. It seems a longshot that they'd be able to get their hands on the original reels, but who knows. |
| g2000 18.05.2007 11:39 |
brian may is obviously going to redo the sound entirely. how will he do that exactly? will he just get the best bits of the series of concerts or will he actually strap on his "BM" and over dub his guitar parts. |
| on my way up 18.05.2007 12:30 |
For the first time in 2 years I watched the show and I have to say that there are some nice moments in it. Great versions of 'play the game','save me','keep yourself alive'and freddie's voice is really fantastic. I have only one complaint(apart from the audience):the sound is really bad. I fully agree with Brian on this one and I fully understand his frustration. This show was filmed and recorded very prefessionally and it's logic they want it released up to their standards. There's only one thing I don't understand. Now Queen Productions have their hands on it, why not making it really great and adding flash/the hero? I think On fire at the bowl was a great release, I was only disappointed by the second disc, mainly the audio on Tokyo, so lazy.They have the tapes but they are to lazy to do it properly. The second disc on this release will be no exception. One thing that's great:we have a new live-cd:-) |
| goinback 18.05.2007 17:15 |
And it should be a great live CD (even though a lot of the songs are the same as Live Killers). There's one audio part on the WWRY concert that has always irritated me. It's right after the lights rise up at the beginning, right after Freddie says "oh yeah" I think...it sounds like the audio speeds up for a split second which makes Brian's guitar sound bad. Seems very minor but it sort of ruins the intro IMHO. It was like that on the old VHS tape from the '80s, and I thought they'd fix it for the current DVD but they didn't. |
| Bobby_brown 18.05.2007 17:18 |
on my way up wrote: I was only disappointed by the second disc, mainly the audio on Tokyo, so lazy.They have the tapes but they are to lazy to do it properly. The second disc on this release will be no exception. One thing that's great:we have a new live-cd:-)I´m not shure but i think i read here on Queenzone that they did not have the tapes of the Tokyo show. I might be wrong. Take care |
| NTL 18.05.2007 19:18 |
Im quite interested to find out what will happen with the audio, as there are some dreadful moments on the original release. Take WWRY fast, you can clearly hear at times Freddie trying to get the audience going, but for some reason they seem to have used the footage from a different night and have tried to mute Freddie. I can only assume that Freddies vocal was captured by other mic's and could not be completely erased. |
| Richy Mercury 19.05.2007 22:37 |
The audience wasn't miked up properly. Listen to Houston '77. On the audience version of this Montreal '77, you can hear the audience very loud. |
| pow wow 15.06.2007 04:47 |
I wonder what the 'exciting' extras are going to be? Any ideas? He knows how to plug a product does Brian! He's starting to sway me now. link |
| Daveboy35 15.06.2007 06:04 |
Yes bri's back with some interesting news about the dvd and the extras that they will include put it this way the concert is from 1981, so my bet is a extensive look at the gluttons for punishment tour with concert footage from south america. Nice to hear work is going well on it can't wait to see it how many months till xmas( starts counting)!!. |
| on my way up 15.06.2007 06:39 |
pow wow wrote: I wonder what the 'exciting' extras are going to be? Any ideas? He knows how to plug a product does Brian! He's starting to sway me now. linkI'm really happy that flash and the hero will be on the cd release! Many people complain about this release but it's obvious brian had problems with the way it was initially released and that he wants to do it proper now. I agree and hope the Montreal concert will look and sound the best possible. And for the extras : fingers crossed! |
| Adam Baboolal 15.06.2007 06:47 |
Well...I was always confident that the actual show would get great treatment from someone like Brian. But now we hear about these mysterious extras? Oooh it sounds very interesting indeed. When is this released??!! Adam. |
| e-man 15.06.2007 06:58 |
I've been all for this release since day one. the picture is superb and with a proper audio mix the dvd will be a killer!!!!!!1 wonder what they have dug out for the extras...seems like it will be awesome |
| Michael Allred 15.06.2007 08:33 |
Well I have to say that if they're not going to include their 'Saturday Night Live' performances, I will be disappointed. I wrote Brian an e-mail saying so, asking that he reconsider. |
| Queenman!! 15.06.2007 09:30 |
I'm very sorry but...... What a buch of motherfuckers over there.. I'm really angry... piece of shit releases. I want something new. WOW saturday night as extra footage. It was shared here on Queenzone on almost excellent DVD quality? Are those people at QP blind or deaf to hear what the fans want. Always the same shit again. Thanks Greg for the extra footage provided by fan here on Queenzone. Commercial moneyparasites. If Saul Swimmer wasn't dead, you had NO Montreal at all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You made us laugh, you made us cry, you made us feel like we could fly! |
| PieterMC 15.06.2007 09:34 |
Queenman!! wrote: I'm very sorry but...... What a buch of motherfuckers over there.. I'm really angry... piece of shit releases. I want something new. WOW saturday night as extra footage. It was shared here on Queenzone on almost excellent DVD quality? Are those people at QP blind or deaf to hear what the fans want. Always the same shit again. Thanks Greg for the extra footage provided by fan here on Queenzone. Commercial moneyparasites. If Saul Swimmer wasn't dead, you had NO Montreal at all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You made us laugh, you made us cry, you made us feel like we could fly!YOU TELL 'EM!!! |
| brian-harold-may 26643 15.06.2007 09:40 |
Queenman!! wrote: I'm very sorry but...... What a buch of motherfuckers over there.. I'm really angry... piece of shit releases. I want something new. WOW saturday night as extra footage. It was shared here on Queenzone on almost excellent DVD quality? Are those people at QP blind or deaf to hear what the fans want. Always the same shit again. Thanks Greg for the extra footage provided by fan here on Queenzone. Commercial moneyparasites. If Saul Swimmer wasn't dead, you had NO Montreal at all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You made us laugh, you made us cry, you made us feel like we could fly!no need to put this in two different topics. |
| pow wow 15.06.2007 09:54 |
Queenman!! wrote: I'm very sorry but...... What a buch of motherfuckers over there.. I'm really angry... piece of shit releases. I want something new. WOW saturday night as extra footage. It was shared here on Queenzone on almost excellent DVD quality? Are those people at QP blind or deaf to hear what the fans want. Always the same shit again. Thanks Greg for the extra footage provided by fan here on Queenzone. Commercial moneyparasites. If Saul Swimmer wasn't dead, you had NO Montreal at all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You made us laugh, you made us cry, you made us feel like we could fly!Have you read Brian's post? He said they WERE going to use Saturday Night as an extra but decided on something more exciting instead. I do agree that a unreleased release would be ideal but that won't happen until I'm bald and deaf. I won't buy this for the sake of it, so will reserve judgement until I've seen the extras. |
| Queenman!! 15.06.2007 10:09 |
pow wow wrote:Nice words, thanks!!Queenman!! wrote: I'm very sorry but...... What a buch of motherfuckers over there.. I'm really angry... piece of shit releases. I want something new. WOW saturday night as extra footage. It was shared here on Queenzone on almost excellent DVD quality? Are those people at QP blind or deaf to hear what the fans want. Always the same shit again. Thanks Greg for the extra footage provided by fan here on Queenzone. Commercial moneyparasites. If Saul Swimmer wasn't dead, you had NO Montreal at all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You made us laugh, you made us cry, you made us feel like we could fly!Have you read Brian's post? He said they WERE going to use Saturday Night as an extra but decided on something more exciting instead. I do agree that a unreleased release would be ideal but that won't happen until I'm bald and deaf. I won't buy this for the sake of it, so will reserve judgement until I've seen the extras. |
| Maz 15.06.2007 11:56 |
My question - What would beat Saturday Night Live in terms of extras? I'd rather have a rare TV appearance than bits of another concert like they did with the MK DVD. |
| Wiley 15.06.2007 12:25 |
Excerpts from their concerts in Mexico and South America would be much better and would make a lot of sense, since it's just where they were right before the WWRY gigs. The SNL appearances are widely available already. CLTCL was in a SNL boxed set in DVD quality, I belive, and Under Pressure has to be Freddie's worst vocal performance ever recorded. Almost embarrasing. Wiley |
| Bohardy 15.06.2007 13:16 |
See my posts on this thread from the 23rd and 24th of April for info on what I know about this release. I've also now heard that the (tentative) release date is scheduled to be the 8th of October. |
| Maz 15.06.2007 13:16 |
Yeah, but I just don't understand the idea of releasing "clips" of a show and not the entire show. If people complain that this setlist is too similar to MK, then why add more of the same as bonus features? That's why I would think that rare TV appearances would be more exciting. Or, better yet, rare interviews. |
| Maz 15.06.2007 13:18 |
Bohardy wrote: See my posts on this thread from the 23rd and 24th of April for info on what I know about this release. I've also now heard that the (tentative) release date is scheduled to be the 8th of October.Fine, South American highlights. QP stopped asking me what to release after I told them Hot Space was ace and would tear up the charts. |
| Bohardy 15.06.2007 19:49 |
Ho ho. I'm with you Zeni (I ain't never calling you Maz). QP obviously have access to, and control over, many things that aren't 'in the public domain'. And we'd all rather see those kind of things than stuff that has been heavily bootlegged, no mater what the upgrade in quality is. |
| ***Marial-B*** 16.06.2007 04:52 |
Although it's the same tracklist as the Pioneer DVD's, I'm gonna buy this one 'cuz I left my Montreal DVD in Venezuela. They same I just did with Live @ the Bolw and Wembley, and with a bunch of CD's |
| cmsdrums 16.06.2007 15:25 |
Just hope that the audio sounds ok - Justin Shirley Smith is mixing again and he always royally fucks up Roger's drum sound. Glad that the Flash tracks will be an the audio, and that there is a genuine reason for them not appearing on the DVD. It's so good these October releases year after year after year - that's when my birhday is! |
| Michael Allred 17.06.2007 09:37 |
Wiley wrote: Excerpts from their concerts in Mexico and South America would be much better and would make a lot of sense, since it's just where they were right before the WWRY gigs. The SNL appearances are widely available already. CLTCL was in a SNL boxed set in DVD quality, I belive, and Under Pressure has to be Freddie's worst vocal performance ever recorded. Almost embarrasing. WileyWhy have one *instead* of the other? Why not include both, tour highlights AND the SNL bits. I'm not terribly excited over the tour highlights though as I'm sure they'll just throw in WWRY, WATC and the usual stuff. At least one South American show should get it's own release (not talking Rio here!) |
| The Real Wizard 17.06.2007 12:24 |
I have to admit, I don't like Roger's huge snare sound on the official Milton Keynes mix. I really hope they don't overblow it on Montreal, too. |
| Rick 17.06.2007 15:53 |
Edit: nevermind.. |
| Bohardy 01.07.2007 18:22 |
It looks like the title of this release will be 'Queen Rock Montreal'. ...Which I don't like. Call me a boring old bugger, but I much prefer the mundane, traditional, 'Live At Montreal '81' kind of thing. It's just a statement of fact then, without any claim to anything. |
| Togg 02.07.2007 09:41 |
cmsdrums wrote: Just hope that the audio sounds ok - Justin Shirley Smith is mixing again and he always royally fucks up Roger's drum sound. Glad that the Flash tracks will be an the audio, and that there is a genuine reason for them not appearing on the DVD. It's so good these October releases year after year after year - that's when my birhday is!One assumes that is the way Roger likes it to sound seeing as he oversees the project and would have final say on whether it was ready for launch. |
| Walter B. 05.07.2007 15:22 |
According to HMV Japan the title will be Queen Rock Montreal: link There will be a 3LP: link |
| Bohardy 05.07.2007 20:40 |
Walter B. wrote: According to HMV Japan the title will be Queen Rock Montreal: link...Which I think I'd already said. Also, it seems that as well as the originally planned single DVD version, Eagle Rock are looking to produce a double-DVD, including Queen's Live Aid performances. And the release date now looks like being October the 22nd, as HMV Japan confirms. |
| YourValentine 06.07.2007 02:14 |
Live Aid??? That's taking away from the Live Aid box which is for charity. I know I would not have bought the box if not for the Queen part. Is that the "exciting" extras Brian announced? He does know that Live Aid has been available for two years or so on the official release. I hoped for something unreleased from 1981/82 and not some other re-release. |
| goinback 06.07.2007 03:06 |
Yeah putting the Live-Aid performance on there is sort of in bad taste IMHO, unless they're giving money to charity. |
| Adam Baboolal 06.07.2007 07:49 |
Bohardy wrote: Also, it seems that as well as the originally planned single DVD version, Eagle Rock are looking to produce a double-DVD, including Queen's Live Aid performances.Where is this official QP release information? Adam. |
| Michael Allred 06.07.2007 09:07 |
C'mon, would *anyone* be surprised if they included Live Aid on here? I'm not convinced they have a clue as to what fans want any more. "Queen Rocks Montreal" now with twice the material you already own! ~Brian May approved |
| Maz 06.07.2007 11:29 |
I'm sure they'll donate proceeds to charity - Geldof is a friend and QP is active in charity to begin with. No doubts there. Any idea if that 2 DVD set is a European-release only, Bohardy? |
| David Jones 06.07.2007 13:02 |
Queen Rock Montreal? Thats nearly as bad as On Fire Live At The Bowl. Agreed, why can't we have the normal titles like Live At Wembley '86? These new ones are just wanky. I would be suprised at Live Aid being an extra. And very disappointed. |
| wstüssyb 06.07.2007 14:28 |
Hmm for extras they should add like Mannhiem, or Budapest :) Or maybe some Buenos Aires stuff would be nice. |
| Adam Baboolal 06.07.2007 14:47 |
Why is no-one questioning where this release information has come from?? I'll believe it when I see it or Brian confirms it. I mean, Live Aid? I don't understand that at all. And why on god's earth would Brian get excited about THAT?? ESPECIALLY since Brian talked about asking if he could say. Wouldn't he have come right out and said it, like how he did with the SNL appearance stuff?? I think this may be part of a different release, if it's even true. Adam. |
| Maz 06.07.2007 15:08 |
No one is questioning Bohardy because his previous statements have been on target. If you look at his comments in this thread alone, you will see that he had name and date right before we ever saw them listed elsewhere, including BM.com. He also had Montreal pegged as a release before we ever got official confirmation, for instance. That does not even address Bohardy's comments on other Queen-related releases. Methinks he got a new job and/or connections within the last couple of years. |
| Bohardy 07.07.2007 14:30 |
Ok. As I've said a few times in this thread already, as I understand it, Queen Rock Montreal has always been intended to be a single DVD release, with extras included on that single DVD. These extras will most likely be bits from the South American concerts, with Morumbi looking particularly likely. It's these 'exciting' extras (again, included on one disc with the main concert) that I think Brian was referring to on his Soapbox. However, it seems that Eagle Rock now want to add a second DVD containing Live Aid and some bits and pieces based aroung that. The Live Aid stuff should not be considered to be the extras for the Montreal concert. But from what I've heard, there's still a chance that the single 'Montreal only' DVD will be released as well. As to whether this is a European-only release or not, I've no idea. And as to how credible this information is...thanks Zeni (Maz). I can only say that previous similar info I've been given and given out, has been pretty much exactly spot-on. |
| AC 07.07.2007 17:27 |
Zeni is always right. |
| David Jones 08.07.2007 07:36 |
Eagle Vision did that with the ANATO Classic Albums release. The documentary on its own and a 2 disc version which was basically the second disc from the 30th Anniversary release of ANATO. Highly likely they will do it with this too. Just a shame its Live Aid... |
| Michael Allred 08.07.2007 10:29 |
So if Live Aid is added, Queen either would have to pay a hefty upfront fee to Geldof (or whomever owns the rights) or donate a substantial portion of the profits from sales. I have never heard of any artist from Live Aid using their work on that day as part of their own products. It's a bit shameful if it turns out to be true. Normally I'd be content with South American highlights as long as they're NOT(!) "We Will Rock You," "We Are the Champions," etc. I STILL say they should include their two songs from "Saturday Night Live." |
| eiricd 08.07.2007 17:35 |
I would welcome a Live Aid bonus. if this is really the case, it means that they must have been able to restore both audio and video tu superior quality compared to the Live Aid box release. otherwise I don't think they would have bothered and we all agree that is a sublime performance |
| eiricd 08.07.2007 17:37 |
and I don't think Live Aid will be the only bonus footage either. my guess it that they'll throw some south america track on there to btw; where does this info come from? |
| Maz 08.07.2007 20:49 |
Michael Allred wrote: So if Live Aid is added, Queen either would have to pay a hefty upfront fee to Geldof (or whomever owns the rights) or donate a substantial portion of the profits from sales. I have never heard of any artist from Live Aid using their work on that day as part of their own products. It's a bit shameful if it turns out to be true.To be fair, it's only been within the last couple of years that Live Aid has been officially available. Even still, QP has used clips for years. I'm sure all Geldof cares about is that proper remuneration is made to Africa. And to sound a little stepfordish for a moment, how many acts would want to include Live Aid as a bonus? Several wouldn't sign releases for the DVD release in 2004 (ie Led Zep); others have little left of a career as it is. |
| freddie lives 28817 09.07.2007 07:12 |
edit. |
| Bobby_brown 09.07.2007 09:35 |
This is not bad for Bob Gueldof at all! If Queen includes Live aid as a bonus, the live aid foundation will have a profit of the sellings, and considering that the Live Aid DVD sales are stable this days, this is the next move for Bob Gueldof. To let people include the footage on their own releases and profit from it. It might get them more money than now. Because the DVD´s are expensive (even though it´s for a very good cause), but with youtube the average teenager fan isn´t going to waste that much money when they can have it for free. So, if Geldof allows this footage to be on private releases and profit from it, then i really think more peolple will watch it and since they buy their favourite band DVD, they´ll contribute to Live aid as well. Take care PS- but this doesn´t mean that i think this is an excellent bonus, since i already have it! Unless they´re gonna add the reharsals and interviews. Now, this would be great! |
| John Deacon In Disguise 10.07.2007 19:56 |
Sorry...have the extras been officially announced yet?? Where is this info from? Why don't we all wait and see what the extras are first. On Brian's site he mentioned that " they had found something much better" for the extras than the Saturday Night Live broadcasts. I doubt this would be Live Aid - as it is already released and practically every Queen fan would have seen that performance. It also isn't from the same time period as Montreal. I'm looking forward to this release, the audio commentray from Brian and Roger should be good. |
| Bohardy 11.07.2007 18:24 |
John Deacon In Disguise wrote: Sorry...have the extras been officially announced yet?? Where is this info from? Why don't we all wait and see what the extras are first. On Brian's site he mentioned that " they had found something much better" for the extras than the Saturday Night Live broadcasts. I doubt this would be Live Aid - as it is already released and practically every Queen fan would have seen that performance. It also isn't from the same time period as Montreal.If you pay attention to what's been said, no-one's saying that the extras have been officially announced, and no-one's saying that the extras on the Montreal release are the Live Aid performance and associated snippets. IF the Live Aid stuff is bundled-in with the Montreal DVD, it's more of a companion DVD than anything else. What, I believe, Brian was referring to are the extras that are going to be on the Montreal DVD. Which, as I've said, are a totally separate thing to the Live Aid DVD that Eagle Rock would like to combine with the Montreal DVD. |
| YourValentine 12.07.2007 04:01 |
Steve - "associated snippets" - what does that mean? We know that Queen have roughly 20 min footage (or more?) of the band rehearsal for Live Aid as well as an interview of the band, parts of which were shown on morning TV. Would the Live Aid DVD include these extras? And do you have any idea what the "exciting extras" on the Montreal DVD could be? Somehow I am afraid it could be another DoRo documentary when there are still 3 complete unreleased South American concerts from this period. |
| Bohardy 12.07.2007 19:36 |
Barb - I haven't heard about any specific details regarding the 'associated snippets', but yes, I'd expect them to include the (fairly commonly available) rehearsal segments and corresponding interviews. I don't think we're talking more than 20 minutes-worth of extras here. And, as I've said, from what I've heard, the exciting extras for the Montreal DVD will be stuff from South America. How much, and exactly what, I don't know. But I've heard that Sao Paulo was being focussed on. And I don't think DoRo are in any way involved at all. So fear not... |
| freddie lives 28817 12.07.2007 19:53 |
Bohardy wrote: Barb - I haven't heard specific about any specific details regarding the 'associated snippets', but yes, I'd expect them to include the (fairly commonly available) rehearsal segments and corresponding interviews. I don't think we're talking more than 20 minutes-worth of extras here.When you say "Snippets of live aid rehearsals" are you talking about the few seconds worth that appeared on breakfast TV or complete songs. If you mean complete songs, then you must live in a different world from me as video footage of those complete songs is NOT "fairly commonly available". |
| freddie lives 28817 12.07.2007 19:55 |
eiricd wrote: I would welcome a Live Aid bonus. if this is really the case, it means that they must have been able to restore both audio and video tu superior quality compared to the Live Aid box release. otherwise I don't think they would have botheredEr, I thought that Brian was involved with the Live Aid DVD set project a few years back, and provided new sound for that release? Isn't that why we have a clean version of "Is this the world"? |
| YourValentine 13.07.2007 03:49 |
Thanks, Steve! The Live Aid rehearsal has been shown on the Dutch convention various times, I don't think it's "fairly commonly available" although the bigger part of it has been around in DVD quality. Bits of it were in fact shown on morning TV and these bits were included in the Miracleexpress VHS version which was later shared as a VCD. The parts shown on the convention included Radio Gaga, BoRhap, CLTCL, Hammer To Fall and the whole set including the interview is about 20 minutes long. I do not really "fear" a Doro documentray, I just don't want to see the same stuff over again :-) I would want the Sao Paulo concert complete and not some bits and pieces. I really loathe these edited incomplete releases. |
| Jeroen 25.07.2007 11:57 |
Update: Got the new press-release from Eagle Vision/Pias today and the new announced TITLE of the DVD is: Queen - "Rock Montreal + Live Aid" (Release Oktober 8, 2 disc) So the Live Aid-story is indeed true and now also officially confirmed. (It is not mentioned specifically but like Bohardy said, it seems likely that Live Aid will be the second disc. Bonus features on the Montreal disc still not confirmed.) |
| Queenman!! 25.07.2007 14:25 |
Jeroen wrote: Update: Got the new press-release from Eagle Vision/Pias today and the new announced TITLE of the DVD is: Queen - "Rock Montreal + Live Aid" (Release Oktober 8, 2 disc) So the Live Aid-story is indeed true and now also officially confirmed. (It is not mentioned specifically but like Bohardy said, it seems likely that Live Aid will be the second disc. Bonus features on the Montreal disc still not confirmed.)LMFAO!! NOOOOOOOO!!!, always the same! HAHAHAHA. I thought we had the LiVE AID footage already on DVD in excellent footage! The complete concert! The interview with all four members sitting on red chairs and some rehearsal of RAdio GAGA and Bohemian Rhapsody were on TV and are wide available on bootleg and even on youtube. What an exiting news (its even far better then the SNL footage) and what a great discovery of Queenproductions. Must took ages to discover and get hold of this footage from ... ahum.. The BBC. :-)( after the guys from the official LIve Aid 1985 dug out the archives and haev done all the pre-work as you can read in the booklet enclosed to the four DVD´s. Also a great combination. Live aid and Montreal. Same year, same atmosphere... WOW!!!! No,again I´m to negative!! But we will see. I expect also Wembley again in 2010 on Blue Ray or... well you know |
| Liquid Scream 25.07.2007 15:02 |
Now hold on! We may get Griff Rhys-Jones and Mel Smith introducing Queen! There's a minute or so that wasn't included on the Live Aid DVD set! |
| Tero 25.07.2007 15:53 |
Well well... What a nice surprise it was to return to this thread and read all about the extras. I'm really glad I didn't get my hopes up for this release, or I might have been disappointed. :P |
| TheGame 25.07.2007 16:57 |
If this is the extra's Brian referred to....then im really wondering about his judgement regarding quality and what the fans want..... |
| cmsdrums 25.07.2007 17:21 |
link The CD (but not DVD) is now available here for pre-order; Flash is NOT shown on the tracklisting, but this does say only provisional. I just do not see ANY reason at all for re-releasing the Live Aid set. We all have it, there are no extra camera angles or multi-channel audio of it, so to put it on just to get a few more eople to buy it who wouldn't buy it just for the Montreal gig is an absolute sellout. UPDATE! link DVD for pre-order here says it will be seperately released on HD and Blu Ray (I'd better get a player then!!) |
| Michael Allred 26.07.2007 10:32 |
Jeroen wrote: Update: Got the new press-release from Eagle Vision/Pias today and the new announced TITLE of the DVD is: Queen - "Rock Montreal + Live Aid" (Release Oktober 8, 2 disc) So the Live Aid-story is indeed true and now also officially confirmed. (It is not mentioned specifically but like Bohardy said, it seems likely that Live Aid will be the second disc. Bonus features on the Montreal disc still not confirmed.)Ah Queen Productions, how you love to torture us so....and my god, that title! Horrible. |
| Erik Viking 26.07.2007 12:49 |
In my opinion Live Aid is a milestone in Queen history, and because of that should have proper and exclusive release. Yes, we all have it but it's very important complement of their catalogue. |
| Michael Allred 26.07.2007 13:46 |
Erik Viking wrote: In my opinion Live Aid is a milestone in Queen history, and because of that should have proper and exclusive release. Yes, we all have it but it's very important complement of their catalogue.It has already gotten a high profile release as part of the Live Aid box set which also kept it in it's proper context. A stand alone release on a Queen DVD is just saying "Look how awesome we were" with no mention of why they were there, what that day meant, etc. It's selfish, self congratulatory and yet another uninspired idea from the brain dead fools who come up with this crap. I still cannot believe Brian talked about this as if it was gonna be something that would knock our socks off. Talk about hyperbole. Then again, we probably should have expected it. Afterall, the main concert itself has been released multiple times so why shouldn't the bonus content be any different? The next DVD will probably feature an interview from "Entertainment Tonight." |
| PieterMC 26.07.2007 14:27 |
Michael Allred wrote: A stand alone release on a Queen DVD is just saying "Look how awesome we were" with no mention of why they were there, what that day meant, etc.While I agree that it's a bunch of crap to have it on there you can't say that there is no mention of why they were there etc etc until you have actually seen the finished product. |
| Bohardy 26.07.2007 19:33 |
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| Bohardy 26.07.2007 19:36 |
For for the love of god, as I've said, time and time again, the Live Aid DVD should be considered a companion release to go with the Montreal DVD. It should NOT be considered to be the 'exciting extras' to the Montreal DVD that Brian was talking about. The Live Aid thing only came about late in the development of the Montreal project, at Eagle Rock's behest. The Montreal DVD was always (and still is, essentially) intended to be a single DVD release that included the concert PLUS EXTRAS on one DVD. The Live Aid DVD might as well be a separate standalone release for all the difference it makes to the Montreal DVD. |
| Adam Baboolal 26.07.2007 22:31 |
So, in other words, it's correct to think that Brian was not talking about the Live Aid stuff because that wasn't part of the main disc release. Ah ha... Adam. |
| Tero 26.07.2007 23:37 |
Boy, did I get it wrong on page one...
Tero wrote: If it was released on the usual label, they would actually be expected to put on a second disc of extras on the release, but through the Eagle label they are under no such "obligation"....or maybe Eagle Vision read my post and decided to improve their image. And Brian wanted to remove every last positive expectation people might have had for the forthcoming Queen releases. ;) |
| Bohardy 27.07.2007 12:56 |
Exactly Adam. And I'm amazed that some people have found this so difficult to comprehend. Unless they've not been reading my posts, the cheeky buggers... |
| Lester Burnham 27.07.2007 13:44 |
Have you been saying something, Bohardy? |
| YourValentine 27.07.2007 16:06 |
How could you miss it, Lester? Bohardy said that Live Aid is the special extra bonus on "Super Mega Live In Montreal" which is the name of the DVD. |
| Bobby_brown 27.07.2007 16:53 |
But the thing is: If you have a 1h40m footage from the concert, how much can we expect of extras in 1 DVD? Is there that much space left? Because from what i´ve seen in most DVD´s, when you have a 2 hour concert it never includes extras. Can someone share some light on this issue? Thanks |
| kohuept 27.07.2007 17:32 |
I don't think it would be too big of a stretch to say that previous, multi-disc releases were that wasy for the sake of having multi-discs. It makes the release seem bigger. "New 2-Disc Set!!!" However, if this one is to be HighDef...? |
| Adam Baboolal 27.07.2007 18:46 |
kohuept wrote: However, if this one is to be HighDef...?Read the thread and you'll find out. Adam. |
| Tero 28.07.2007 01:21 |
Bobby_brown wrote: But the thing is: If you have a 1h40m footage from the concert, how much can we expect of extras in 1 DVD? Is there that much space left? Because from what i´ve seen in most DVD´s, when you have a 2 hour concert it never includes extras. Can someone share some light on this issue? ThanksYou can fit all the 95 minutes of concert material with DD2.0, DD5.1, DTS and commentary soundtracks on one DVD with the absolute maximum quality, but that's pretty much the entire disc. The extras on concert DVDs depend entirely on what the artist desires, because just by using a "reasonable" bitrate for the image (say 7000 instead of 9000 which still looks just as good on a regular TV) you can easily fit 20 minutes of bonus material on the same disc... And that's what we're going to have for this release. ;) |
| Bobby_brown 28.07.2007 10:11 |
Tero wrote: The extras on concert DVDs depend entirely on what the artist desires, because just by using a "reasonable" bitrate for the image (say 7000 instead of 9000 which still looks just as good on a regular TV) you can easily fit 20 minutes of bonus material on the same disc... And that's what we're going to have for this release. ;)I´m no expert on this, but since the DVD is going to be released in HiDef quality, doesn´t that mean that it fills more space? Take care |
| KevMull 28.07.2007 11:01 |
Bobby_brown wrote:Yes, but for the HD-DVD/Blu Ray releases a disc can hold some 25/50 gig+ .Tero wrote: The extras on concert DVDs depend entirely on what the artist desires, because just by using a "reasonable" bitrate for the image (say 7000 instead of 9000 which still looks just as good on a regular TV) you can easily fit 20 minutes of bonus material on the same disc... And that's what we're going to have for this release. ;)I´m no expert on this, but since the DVD is going to be released in HiDef quality, doesn´t that mean that it fills more space? Take care The SD DVD release you refer to will not be 'high def quality' so it will fill no more space than your average feature film. (approx 8.5 gig) |
| Tero 28.07.2007 12:18 |
Bobby_brown wrote:Yes, high quality picture will take up more space than standard DVD. The discs will also have more space for the programme, which means you can fit more content.Tero wrote: The extras on concert DVDs depend entirely on what the artist desires, because just by using a "reasonable" bitrate for the image (say 7000 instead of 9000 which still looks just as good on a regular TV) you can easily fit 20 minutes of bonus material on the same disc... And that's what we're going to have for this release. ;)I´m no expert on this, but since the DVD is going to be released in HiDef quality, doesn´t that mean that it fills more space? Take care But I'm not talking about the HD versions which are still going to be the marginal (<5% of sales) versions of this title. Whatever extras you will get, will be tailored to fit the standard DVD. |
| Walter B. 30.07.2007 11:57 |
The content of the companion dvd for Rock Montreal: - Live Aid performance - Live Aid rehearsal: Bohemian rhapsody / Hammer to fall / Is this the world we created - audio comment - TV program 'PM magazine' source: link |
| Bobby_brown 30.07.2007 15:14 |
Walter B. wrote: The content of the companion dvd for Rock Montreal: - Live Aid performance - Live Aid rehearsal: Bohemian rhapsody / Hammer to fall / Is this the world we created - audio comment - TV program 'PM magazine' source: linkLooking at it, it´s not bad at all. Considering that they know this is somewhat a re-release just to make it into the Queen DVD collection, i think they´re planning to do packages of their South American Tour and their Live Killers tour separately. Take care |
| Bobby_brown 30.07.2007 15:15 |
double post |
| Richy Mercury 30.07.2007 16:18 |
Walter B. wrote: The content of the companion dvd for Rock Montreal: |
| Wiley 30.07.2007 16:24 |
Bobby_brown wrote: i think they´re planning to do packages of their South American Tour and their Live Killers tour separately.Now THAT's wishful thinking. I would really like to believe that but it beats all logic, given what QP has released in the past years. Most likely, those will not be released in the near future (or ever). Being a bit of a pessimist here, I think we will get Budapest in Hi-Def or BlueRay before an unreleased show in DVD. Then, re release of GVH 1, 2 and the inclusion of videos from GH3: "Queen's videos like you've never seen them before, blah blah blah". Wiley |
| Tero 30.07.2007 23:44 |
Wiley wrote:Don't forget the 30th anniversary version of The Game DVDA with bonus archive footage of random kids playing in the streets, and a Hi-Def version of the ANATO 30th anniversary edition as the 35th anniversary edition. ;)Bobby_brown wrote: i think they´re planning to do packages of their South American Tour and their Live Killers tour separately.Now THAT's wishful thinking. I would really like to believe that but it beats all logic, given what QP has released in the past years. Most likely, those will not be released in the near future (or ever). Being a bit of a pessimist here, I think we will get Budapest in Hi-Def or BlueRay before an unreleased show in DVD. Then, re release of GVH 1, 2 and the inclusion of videos from GH3: "Queen's videos like you've never seen them before, blah blah blah". Wiley |
| Michael Allred 31.07.2007 08:19 |
Walter B. wrote: The content of the companion dvd for Rock Montreal: - Live Aid performance - Live Aid rehearsal: Bohemian rhapsody / Hammer to fall / Is this the world we created - audio comment - TV program 'PM magazine' source: linkan audio commentary for Live Aid? |
| Queenman!! 31.07.2007 10:36 |
Wiley wrote:I thought I was the only one thinking this way!Wow this shocks me.Bobby_brown wrote: i think they´re planning to do packages of their South American Tour and their Live Killers tour separately.Now THAT's wishful thinking. I would really like to believe that but it beats all logic, given what QP has released in the past years. Most likely, those will not be released in the near future (or ever). Being a bit of a pessimist here, I think we will get Budapest in Hi-Def or BlueRay before an unreleased show in DVD. Then, re release of GVH 1, 2 and the inclusion of videos from GH3: "Queen's videos like you've never seen them before, blah blah blah". Wiley |
| Wiley 31.07.2007 15:44 |
Queenman!! wrote:Well, sometimes it looks like that's how they think.Wiley... Then, re release of GVH 1, 2 and the inclusion of videos from GH3: "Queen's videos like you've never seen them before, blah blah blah".I thought I was the only one thinking this way!Wow this shocks me. Around 1998 or 1999 there was a mention in a Queen Fan Club magazine about releasing a boxed set with 3 unreleased Queen concerts in VHS or something like that. Nothing came. Years later, they hop into the DVD bandwagon with GVH1. A good and awaited release but far from perfect. They did much better with GVH2 and Wembley (almost flawless, if you ask me). Now the concerts' recordings are below the standards for a commercial release on DVD and are not considered (or so they say). If they keep on like this, the only Queen concerts released in High Definition will be the ones on film: Montreal, Budapest and a few others. Also, what's the point on holding back the Queen Boxed set and intend them as "book end" releases?? Like they wouldn't release anything else later. |
| Tero 31.07.2007 23:58 |
Wiley wrote: Around 1998 or 1999 there was a mention in a Queen Fan Club magazine about releasing a boxed set with 3 unreleased Queen concerts in VHS or something like that. Nothing came.Well there was the set of WWRY, Rio, and Budapest in one cardboard sleeve which I bought in 1998... Maybe somebody somewhere got their wires crossed about that release. :/ |
| Daveboy35 03.08.2007 02:56 |
Here's all the info on montreal dvd from brian may.com: **Fri 03 Aug 07** QUEEN ROCK MONTREAL Pack Shots On 29 October 2007, Eagle Rock Entertainment simultaneously release two incredible DVDs capturing the incomparable Queen in their pomp as the world’s biggest band at a sold out show in 1981 at Montreal’s 18,000-seater Forum. The single DVD is "Queen Rock Montreal" and there is a special edition double DVD “Queen Rock Montreal + Live Aid” [Cat Nos EREDV444 and EREDV666 respectively]. The live CD/LP from the concert is released on the same date on EMI with HD-DVD and Blu-ray versions to follow in November through Eagle. Following their record-breaking South American tour, the Montreal shows on 24 and 25 November 1981 were to be the only concerts by Queen ever shot on film – indeed they were the first group to shoot an entire show in full cinema format 35mm. These releases offer the best ever sound and picture quality on a Queen concert release. Always a great live band, with two years non-stop touring behind them and Freddie Mercury in front of them, Queen excelled themselves with the cameras rolling. The footage has been digitally restored from the original film and the sound has been newly mixed and mastered for DTS Surround Sound and PCM Stereo from the original multi-track tapes. “Hello Montreal...long time no see. You wanna get crazy?” asks Freddie as the band tear into their alternative ‘fast’ version of We Will Rock You, and from there on Queen show their hard rock roots, slowing down only for Love of My Life and the more mid-tempo Under Pressure, notably being performed live for the first time in this concert. TRACKLISTING 1) Intro 2) We Will Rock You (fast) 3) Let Me Entertain You 4) Play The Game 5) Somebody To Love 6) Killer Queen 7) I’m In Love With My Car 8) Get Down Make Love 9) Save Me 10) Now I’m Here 11) Dragon Attack 12) Now I’m Here (reprise) 13) Love Of My Life 14) Under Pressure 15) Keep Yourself Alive 16) Drum & Timpani Solo 17) Guitar Solo 18) Crazy Little Thing Called Love 19) Jailhouse Rock 20) Bohemian Rhapsody 21) Tie Your Mother Down 22) Another One Bites The Dust 23) Sheer Heart Attack 24) We Will Rock You 25) We Are The Champions 26) God Save The Queen TRACKLISTING (Double Disc Live Aid footage) Live Aid: 1) Bohemian Rhapsody 2) Radio Gaga 3) Hammer To Fall 4) Crazy Little Thing Called Love 5) We Will Rock You 6) We Are The Champions 7) Is This The World We Created The real joy to be had in watching Freddie, Brian, Roger and John performing here is that, unlike any other Queen concert film available, this delivers raw Queen. This is before the Hot Space album, before keyboards would find a place in the band’s touring line up; this is simply four musicians in total cohesion. Originally titled, “We Will Rock You”, this film was first launched at the Cannes Film Festival in May 1983 - as only Queen could. It was then released in North America (September 1984), becoming the first commercially available film of Queen in concert. For this special edition, the picture has been digitally restored from the original 35mm negative. The double disc release offers the incredible bonus of a slew of Live Aid features and performances. Regularly polled as the greatest live performance of all time, Queen’s mighty Live Aid show at 6.44pm on July 13, 1985, is here in full. In addition to the set that reinforced Queen’s position as unrivalled rock entertainers, Freddie and Brian’s performance later in the evening of the poignant “Is This The World We Created” is included. Also featured are 11 minutes of never before seen Live Aid rehearsal footage, plus a rehearsal interview with the band. In addition, there’s the curiosity value of a 1982 news feature from US TV series PM Magazine. Brian May and Roger Taylor bring the story up to date |
| eiricd 03.08.2007 03:30 |
I must say I was expecting more bonus material. however; when they choose to not include south american footage it must mean they have another project in mind (perhaps a box set ala Zeppelin) I can't wait to compare the live aid dvd with the one already available |
| YourValentine 03.08.2007 03:47 |
I wonder what happened to the "exciting extras"? Surely, the incomplete rehearsal and an old morning TV show interview are not "exciting extras". At least the rehearsal could be complete to make it worth buying something actually new. No extras on disc 1 at all? |
| Tero 03.08.2007 04:08 |
YourValentine wrote: I wonder what happened to the "exciting extras"? Surely, the incomplete rehearsal and an old morning TV show interview are not "exciting extras". At least the rehearsal could be complete to make it worth buying something actually new. No extras on disc 1 at all?Did you miss the In addition, there’s the curiosity value of a 1982 news feature from US TV series PM Magazine. Brian May and Roger Taylor bring the story up to date with a brand new audio commentary on the Montreal concert.part of the press release? Those ARE the exciting extras on disc 1. I don't know about other people around here, but I've come to realise several years ago that what excites Brian May on the Queen releases is pretty far from what would excite me. ;) |
| on my way up 03.08.2007 04:18 |
Man,the packshots are ugly(don't like the blue background)! But I'm looking forward to the release:-) if the sound is fantastic , I'll be happy. And then hope that the next release follows quickly;-) |
| eiricd 03.08.2007 04:23 |
the artwork is pretty lame...... |
| Another Roger (re) 03.08.2007 04:26 |
So we will have to wait an extra month for the HD version? Will HD-dvd play in a regular dvd player? :P And I have to say, thats the worst artwork I have ever seen a an official Queenrelease. |
| goinback 03.08.2007 04:37 |
Then, re release of GVH 1, 2 and the inclusion of videos from GH3: "Queen's videos like you've never seen them before, blah blah blah". WileyWithout the tops and bottoms cut off! See they had this planned all along ;) |
| YourValentine 03.08.2007 06:20 |
Tero - yes, you are right: the audio commentary, I can't wait to hear Roger "Oh, look at the ugly shirt I am wearing ... aargh, the horrible glasses" etc etc |
| Wet Willie 03.08.2007 06:54 |
YourValentine wrote: Tero - yes, you are right: the audio commentary, I can't wait to hear Roger "Oh, look at the ugly shirt I am wearing ... aargh, the horrible glasses" etc etcLet's hope he says the same about the DVD's cover! |
| Daz85 03.08.2007 07:58 |
I'm sure the video and audio will be fantastic, but the artwork is awful. I've seen FAR better fan work.... I can only assume that Eagle were involved in it, because it doesn't even have a familiar "QUEEN" logo. |
| PieterMC 03.08.2007 08:16 |
The artwork is a joke, right?? |
| cmsdrums 03.08.2007 08:30 |
So the only extra mentioned in the press release for disc 1 is a new commentary? That really does suck - if there is extra exciting stuff as Brian has publicly promised, then why not mention it in the press release, as this would be one of the major selling points. And if there isn't any other extras for the Montreal gig, then it just shows the disrespect that Jim Beach holds for all us true fans |
| Jjeroen 03.08.2007 08:30 |
PieterMC Posted: 8/3/2007 8:16:29 AM Edit Reply Reply with Quote The artwork is a joke, right?? =================== That's what I was going to say! THIS CANNOT BE serious! That's certainly the ungiest official release artwork I have EVER seen by ANY artist! And we thought Return of the Champions was crap. Look at this motherfucker! I'm sorry for the swearing, but I'm by forehand ashamed to have this in my collection! I went through the roof when I heard it would be out on a triple vinyl box... had all kinds of visions of this marvelous item... but THIS excersize of copy-past?? Come on! Somehow I can NOT believe this is a package shot! This must be a concept or something... Realy... |
| Wet Willie 03.08.2007 08:38 |
Kind of reminds me of the Innudendo 12" single, the EXPLOSIVE VERSION... I was expecting some real heavy track (how would they make it heavirer than the album version????). In the end, all it was was a lound white noise at the end of it... So much for sepding that money. QP, thanks. It looks like it sucks |
| Michael Allred 03.08.2007 08:58 |
See? Just as shitty as I expected. Oh well, at least there's the companion CD though I'm not sure any of this is getting a US release since the date mentioned in the press release is clearly for the UK market. |
| QueenSite 03.08.2007 09:23 |
I'm very disappointed. As the film was re-edited in the 90's, they definitely stil have the original reels and could at least have put as bonuses some different video-edit. and what's the point in adding Live Aid as a bonus, when we ALL have it when a couple of years ago we rushed to buy the box-set? A pointless release |
| Boy Thomas Raker 03.08.2007 10:06 |
Give the people what they want. |
| pittrek 03.08.2007 10:11 |
The word "shit" has a new meaning now. The only reason for buying this was the bonus disc, but this... we're getting a "unique" opportunity to get Live Aid for the 500th time. Basically we get an incredibbly good looking and sounding piece of shit. How many copies do they want to sell ? 50 ? |
| Boy Thomas Raker 03.08.2007 10:17 |
On April 2, 2007:
bigV wrote: Folks, I urge you to give QPL the benefit of the doubt. Sure it's a disappointment, but believe it or not the people upstairs have been in the music business for several years now (spot the irony time). They are very well aware of the fact that people wouldn't buy the same DVD for the third time so it will have some redeeming extras. I believe (or rather I hope) that there WILL be a second disc of extras and most of them will be more than enough to keep you occupied for a good weekend. In addition I think that the audio will be a brand-new 5.1 mix and the video will probably be high definition. My point is this. Let's keep the criticisms until October 9th, shall we? V.Any thoughts now Big V? I haven't given QP the benefit of the doubt since the Hollywood releases, wasn't giving them any on this, and won't in the future. I totally expect every new release from QP to be shitty, so as Tero so wisely said, you can never be disappointed if you have no expectations. |
| PieterMC 03.08.2007 11:03 |
Michael Allred wrote: See? Just as shitty as I expected. Oh well, at least there's the companion CD though I'm not sure any of this is getting a US release since the date mentioned in the press release is clearly for the UK market.Why do you have to be so negative all the time? |
| Boy Thomas Raker 03.08.2007 11:11 |
PieterMC wrote:Because he's a real fan, and recognizes that QP has just released more shit and doesn't approve. What would you suggest?Michael Allred wrote: See? Just as shitty as I expected. Oh well, at least there's the companion CD though I'm not sure any of this is getting a US release since the date mentioned in the press release is clearly for the UK market.Why do you have to be so negative all the time? |
| Tero 03.08.2007 11:35 |
cmsdrums wrote: So the only extra mentioned in the press release for disc 1 is a new commentary? That really does suck - if there is extra exciting stuff as Brian has publicly promised, then why not mention it in the press release, as this would be one of the major selling points. And if there isn't any other extras for the Montreal gig, then it just shows the disrespect that Jim Beach holds for all us true fansActually, there is that mention of a 1982 "curiosity value" clip , whatever that means... Unless they have the wrong year written down, I would imagine that's a bonus for the first disc. Maybe Brian just has a twisted sense of humour and he enjoys getting people all excited (which requires very little these days) before throwing the proverbial bucket of excrement on their faces. :/ |
| TheGame 03.08.2007 12:48 |
Brian ought to respond to the exciting extras. What was so exciting really? The cover,dont even get me started. I will ofcourse buy this, but did i expect a better and more exciting release? YES I'm sure the quality will be great on this release, but have the QP crew forgot what extras and interesting stuff means? Too bad nothing can be done, pitty. |
| Michael Allred 03.08.2007 13:04 |
TheGame wrote: Brian ought to respond to the exciting extras. What was so exciting really? The cover,dont even get me started. I will ofcourse buy this, but did i expect a better and more exciting release? YES I'm sure the quality will be great on this release, but have the QP crew forgot what extras and interesting stuff means? Too bad nothing can be done, pitty.You will of course be buying this. Well, that's ALL QP wants to hear. No matter the negative response, they can count on most fans buying their crap over and over again. Nothing will make them change their ways until fans react with more than just words but rather their withholding money. Period. The next DVD's "exciting" extras will be an anti-smoking PSA, a "How to make stereo photos" documentary and highlights of the interviews from "Live at Budapest" featuring more of John Deacon trying to talk to children. |
| Michael Allred 03.08.2007 13:06 |
Boy Thomas Raker wrote:He's just trying to be cute.PieterMC wrote:Because he's a real fan, and recognizes that QP has just released more shit and doesn't approve. What would you suggest?Michael Allred wrote: See? Just as shitty as I expected. Oh well, at least there's the companion CD though I'm not sure any of this is getting a US release since the date mentioned in the press release is clearly for the UK market.Why do you have to be so negative all the time? |
| Mr Faron Hyte 03.08.2007 14:40 |
Its not as easy as it looks. |
| Bobby_brown 03.08.2007 15:10 |
Is this the complete reharsal for Live Aid or is there something more? This cover is a shadow compared to the cover of the WWRY DVD released some years ago. Take care |
| Lester Burnham 03.08.2007 15:11 |
8/3/07: the day I officially lost faith in QPL. I know it sounds melodramatic, but unless there are some extras that aren't being specified, this is just shameless. While the other DVDs have had their faults, they were minor at best: GVH1 and 2 were solid releases, and the extras were excellent; Wembley and Milton Keynes were excellent, and even the packaging looked like someone had spent more than 10 minutes in MSW Paint on it; ROTC was okay, but I don't remember anyone stating there would be any extras on there, so I didn't get my hopes up. This, however, is just abysmal. There were more extras, however inconsequential, on the most recent DVD release of WWRY. This new release just shows how out of touch with their fans that QPL has become. Why the Live Aid stuff? Wouldn't it make more sense to put that on something closer to the time period? I know QPL are planning on releasing Budapest at some point, so why not put it on there? Or what about when a 1984/1985 show is released? It would have made more sense to have the SNL '82 performance on there. And yet, people saying they'll still buy it anyway are just reinforcing the fact that QPL can put out a pile of shit and people will still buy it. It's gotta stop somewhere, right? I keep hoping that there are some unannounced extras, but I can't imagine why they wouldn't have been included in the press release. Improved sound and vision regardless, this is one release that I'm going to skip. |
| YourValentine 03.08.2007 15:47 |
"Is this the complete reharsal for Live Aid or is there something more?" 11 minutes is definitely NOT complete. I agree, Lester. I have not bought the totally incomplete Freddie Tribute DVD, the ROTC DVD and I am not buying this one, either. It's really easy. Maybe they release something like Wembley or Milton Keynes some day and I will be the first in line to buy it. But I am not spending my money for DVDs I already own plus an interview plus a US TV show of questionable quality (I googled it and the results are not promising.) The "extras" on disc 1 add up to record breaking 5 minutes (complete running time 95 minutes) while the complete disc 2 is only 43 mins total - a joke. |
| TheGame 03.08.2007 17:57 |
Ofcourse people will buy it. Im sure it will be top 5 in many countries. Most of the buyers are not on forums like this, its regular fans who want a Queen DVD. I dont think we on QZ nor QOL can do anything about that. However, isnt it possible to confront QP with this? I guess asking Brian about this is just useless as he wont get the negative mail. But hey, lets hope for some exciting hidden features :p |
| PieterMC 03.08.2007 20:21 |
Michael Allred wrote:Awwww shucks.... *blush*Boy Thomas Raker wrote:He's just trying to be cute.PieterMC wrote:Because he's a real fan, and recognizes that QP has just released more shit and doesn't approve. What would you suggest?Michael Allred wrote: See? Just as shitty as I expected. Oh well, at least there's the companion CD though I'm not sure any of this is getting a US release since the date mentioned in the press release is clearly for the UK market.Why do you have to be so negative all the time? |
| Fmarton 04.08.2007 07:57 |
Could it be that the Live Aid special extra will be multi angle version?That would be a special extra indeed.It is possible because on the second DVD there are only 43 minutes of film.Let's dream. |
| cmsdrums 04.08.2007 14:35 |
And why on earth is Live Aid being tagged on as a last minute extra disc to a gig that was from 4 years earlier? Surely if Live Aid MUST be re-released, then it would make more sense for it be put as extras on either Live In Rio or Live In Japan 85 DVD releases? Does this mean that we won't get either of those as DVD releases in the future?? If they must insist on releasing gigs on DVD that we already have on VHS, then Rio (complete) would be the one that would really benefit from a full remix audio wise, and a regrade and re-edit of the picture, rather than Montreal or Budapest. |
| goinback 04.08.2007 16:18 |
I guess one plus about Live-Aid is there may be a commentary track with it, but I'm not sure how interesting that will be. Or maybe they thought if they put the Live-Aid rehearsal on without the footage it would look like they're trying to make people buy more than one DVD (which it wouldn't really). Or since Montreal doesn't have a lot of crowd enthusiasm, maybe they think the Live-Aid set shows Queen in a better light. But I learned a long time ago not to try to figure these things out :) (And AFAIK there aren't other camera angles of the Live-Aid set.) I still want to hear the new sound (there was always an annoying tape speed change at the beginning of WWRY fast that I hope is gone), but it seems like it could have been better. Unless there's a great easter egg we don't know about. And if they're not giving money to charity then they're taking a lot of money away from Live-Aid DVD sales which isn't good. Something else bad is a lot of casual fans who already have WWRY are going to think this is a different show and feel ripped-off when they play it. How many people actually check the venue/date of a live recording? Most live recordings don't even give that info in the first place. QP may need to be ready for a lot of DVD returns. |
| Walter B. 04.08.2007 16:35 |
On the Eagle Rock website there is a little more information about the extras: “Before & After” restoration comparison link Ah, and there will be a microsite: link (not working now actually) |
| Tero 04.08.2007 17:20 |
Is anybody else concerned about the fact the this new Queen Fucks Montreal will be a direct competitor to the previous Queen concert release, Live at the Bowl? I mean, it's one thing to re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-release a concert which the die hard fans (and Americans, and everyone living next to a HMV or any other store that imports dvds) already have, but it's quite a different matter to put out two concerts with 90% identical setlist. One of the selling points for this release was supposed to be that the "casual" listeners outside the USA won't have this yet, but are they going to be interested in buying another concert with the same set list? |
| Ron 05.08.2007 05:39 |
havent been here for a while but just had to comment on this release.. will all new releases for the Queen catalogue only be prev released concerts? not to mention the sleeve for this article.. which I wont |
| goinback 05.08.2007 16:05 |
Walter B. wrote: On the Eagle Rock website there is a little more information about the extras: “Before & After” restoration comparison link Ah, and there will be a microsite: link (not working now actually)That site says it's the only Queen concert shot on 35mm film. Since MobileVision was an Imax-type of thing, wouldn't it have been shot on at least 70mm? I'd think Budapest was probably on 35mm as well, though it could have been 70mm but I'd be surprised by that. I doubt the technical details on the site are even right. Also if that's the cover then I say Queen fans start a well-publicized competition to come up with a better one that people can download...if they actually buy it anyway.... |
| Nathan 05.08.2007 17:46 |
goinback wrote: Also if that's the cover then I say Queen fans start a well-publicized competition to come up with a better one that people can download...if they actually buy it anyway....Maybe we could have an Internet patch or something. |
| Bohardy 05.08.2007 19:53 |
Shit. There I was banging on about how everyone should wait and see that the exciting extras WOULD be on the Montreal DVD, and that they'd be pertaining to South America, and lo and behold, it really seems as if there are no exciting extras. Given that all the other info about the release I had was correct, I can only surmise that for some reason these South American extras were excised late in the project's development, as I'm sure they WERE being looked at for inclusion on the DVD. All in all, a disappointing release, with an excrementally awful cover. |
| smileexpert 05.08.2007 20:17 |
I'm somewhat interested in this release -- tho I still may buy the current version that's out there in case the audio is better. My question or interest is in the Live-Aid performance. While I have the 4-disc Live-Aid set which is tremendous and highly recommended -- I am a little disappointed that the introduction was left off this version of the DVD. Comedian Mel Smith and a 2nd comedian actually dressed up in London police-gear and introduced the band with some comment like 'We're getting some complaints about the noise...' Then they went on to do a little chatting and Mel Smith (M.S.) goes on to say something like... M.S.: 'Who are our next performers?' 2nd comedian whispers in Mel Smith's ear... Mel Smith looks surprised / shocked / excited. They both remove their helmets M.S. yells 'LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...HER MAJESTY...QUEEN' It's a shame that this wasn't included in the Official 4-disc DVD because it really pumps up the crowd for a great performance - which it WAS. This was seen on the 10th Anniversary Live-Aid show but (again) not on the DVD. I hope this is included. |
| smileexpert 05.08.2007 20:32 |
Just found this on YouTube. link |
| Penetration_Guru 06.08.2007 16:05 |
"second comedian" = Griff Rhys Jones, who has only been Smith's comedy partner for about 15 years. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 07.08.2007 15:37 |
Let me say this, I know that according to Brian May that "Flash" and "The Hero" will be on the audio counterpart (the 2-CD issue and the LP issue) as the full show will be available in audio form whilst the visuals for Flash and The Hero were thrown out by Saul Swimmer. I want to hear Roger and Brian's take on these shows as Saul Swimmer, RIP, didn't know sh*t about Queen. Queen were, if I am not mistaken, at the pinnacle of their success in the US at the time of the filming. This was also the last shows they did as a FOUR PIECE before the stupid keyboards took over. |
| goinback 07.08.2007 19:43 |
Yes, I thought it was a little off that Saul referred to Queen as still being a "cult band" by 1981. In 1980 they were probably the biggest band in the US for a few months...The Game, CLTCL and AOBTD were all #1. |
| David Jones 08.08.2007 08:47 |
Just had a thought... This DVD doesn't look like its gonna feature in the "DVD Collection" like previous releases, looking at that stark cover. |
| Tero 08.08.2007 10:39 |
David Jones wrote: Just had a thought... This DVD doesn't look like its gonna feature in the "DVD Collection" like previous releases, looking at that stark cover.That's because QP has termniated the "DVD Collection", and from now on we will only get re-releases of the existing titles with amateur cover art. ;) |
| cmsdrums 08.08.2007 13:18 |
Brian has recently said on bm.com about the original Montreal VHS/cinema release:"The whole thing was shoddily put together with bad sound" I wonder what Mack has got to say about this, considering he mixed it (presumably at their request) and he was also responsible for production on several of their albums and solo projects (including their biggest ever album (certainly) at the time, The Game) And, knowing how anal Queen are about the sonic quality of all their releases, I can't believe that the original audio mix was released without being referred to them for an 'ok'. Funny that! |
| goinback 08.08.2007 14:48 |
Brian's said that MobileVision wouldn't let Queen have any say over the audio of previous DVD/VHS releases (it is AFAIK the only filmed show Queen didn't have the rights to). Now that Saul Swimmer passed away, this is the first time Queen has input for the DVD. I'm not sure if Queen had any say when it was originally mixed for theaters in the early '80s though...that's a good point about Mack. But the band didn't like the mix for Live Killers either, so maybe they didn't have input on some of these things back then or were just too busy. Brian's been waiting to remix this for quite awhile...we knew this was coming eventually. And I think it's really great that he's still interested enough to spend time on it, while many other musicians would simply let the cash roll in from the previous inferior release. And despite the mix, we'll also be gaining at least a generation of audio since they're going back to the multitracks. The DVD cover and extras are what's weird though :) And if they don't put a huge message on the DVD that this was previously released under another title (which they won't), then they're unfortunately going to have a lot of unhappy confused customers that didn't know they were buying the show twice and a lot of attempts at DVD returns. The concert should be great but I'm worried they're going to fail on every other aspect of this. |
| cmsdrums 08.08.2007 15:14 |
OK - cheers. I wasn't fully aware that Queen had no input to the mix the first time around, and I am happy that Brian is putting some energy to a 'proper' mix, although as Mack mixed it and he was 'their guy' at the time, I am really surprised that Brian is so scathing of the sound. Especially when you consider that the audio on the original VHS of the Montreal gig is a whole lot better than than Live In Rio, and even Budapest. Yes, we will get HD/DTS/Dolby 5.1 etc.. audio, but I for one will be very interested to see if it actually sounds better, especially considering Justin Shirley-Smith is doing the main work on the mix and he always makes Roger's drums sound awful - the horribly dull snare on Live At The Bowl, the awful 'woolly' confused sound on Return Of The Champions to name two. Those two gigs are both remixed from multitrack too, so there's no excuse that they are only working from a stereo track. Trip Khalaf always makes Roger sound superb live, but David Richards wees all over Justin Shirley-Smith when transferring this to a live recording. |
| Queenman!! 08.08.2007 17:10 |
goinback wrote: Brian's said that MobileVision wouldn't let Queen have any say over the audio of previous DVD/VHS releases (it is AFAIK the only filmed show Queen didn't have the rights to). Now that Saul Swimmer passed away, this is the first time Queen has input for the DVD. I'm not sure if Queen had any say when it was originally mixed for theaters in the early '80s though...that's a good point about Mack. But the band didn't like the mix for Live Killers either, so maybe they didn't have input on some of these things back then or were just too busy. Brian's been waiting to remix this for quite awhile...we knew this was coming eventually. And I think it's really great that he's still interested enough to spend time on it, while many other musicians would simply let the cash roll in from the previous inferior release. And despite the mix, we'll also be gaining at least a generation of audio since they're going back to the multitracks. The DVD cover and extras are what's weird though :) And if they don't put a huge message on the DVD that this was previously released under another title (which they won't), then they're unfortunately going to have a lot of unhappy confused customers that didn't know they were buying the show twice and a lot of attempts at DVD returns. The concert should be great but I'm worried they're going to fail on every other aspect of this.Didn't they also haven't got the rights to Japan 1985; releases under various labels |
| shadysenator 08.08.2007 19:18 |
Yes finally a unseen and really new Queen video release ,with totally unseen bonus footage....great a dream come true....Love it...rare and exciting and new... hope to see a limited edition on 8track and video2000,CDI,betamax and DCC real great... I will make a special calender which is a countdown to october 29th each day from know I will mark a day to get a day closer to this exciting release.... hope I won;t die before the release date... |
| Queenman!! 09.08.2007 04:43 |
shadysenator wrote: Yes finally a unseen and really new Queen video release ,with totally unseen bonus footage....great a dream come true....Love it...rare and exciting and new... hope to see a limited edition on 8track and video2000,CDI,betamax and DCC real great... I will make a special calender which is a countdown to october 29th each day from know I will mark a day to get a day closer to this exciting release.... hope I won;t die before the release date...I'll feel with you. Think the same about it. Commercial thinkers. Qp, Brian, Rodger, John already own millions and millions and let their real fans downwith stupid re-releases. |
| gnomo 09.08.2007 10:47 |
... the website for the Montreal release has just gone online ... :P link |
| PieterMC 09.08.2007 11:17 |
gnomo wrote: ... the website for the Montreal release has just gone online ... :P linkYuck |
| David Jones 09.08.2007 12:02 |
A pointless website for a pointless release. |
| Nathan 09.08.2007 14:26 |
Oh my goodness gracious me! THAT is the cover? How bland! It looks like a book cover or something. I hope QP keep the original covers for Live in Rio and Live in Budapest for whenever they'll be re-released on DVD as I'm sure they will be. |
| Tero 09.08.2007 14:44 |
Nathan wrote: I hope QP keep the original covers for Live in Rio and Live in Budapest for whenever they'll be re-released on DVD as I'm sure they will be.I wouldn't count on QP releasing anything new. In fact I'd go as far as saying that it's more likely to get a re-re-release of the ANATO audio dvd onstead of either of those titles you mentioned. ;) (And it's also pretty obvious that they're going to have to create new artwork for the possible Budapest release, because that one's already been used on a cd...) |
| goinback 09.08.2007 15:53 |
PieterMC wrote:I can barely even read the press releases because they use DARK BLUE TEXT ON A DARK BLUE BACKGROUND. Whoever's doing all this is a friggin' moron!gnomo wrote: ... the website for the Montreal release has just gone online ... :P linkYuck |
| kohuept 09.08.2007 16:09 |
Ditto everything, goinback. Also, I'm pretty sure Freddie's "Hello Montreal..." speech is just before Let Me Entertain You, am I right? It will be a sad day when this sells well. |
| dotheneurotic 20.08.2007 19:58 |
Does anybody know for SURE why Flash and The Hero aren't in this tracklist? Is the video material of these 2 songs gone for good? |
| Penetration_Guru 21.08.2007 15:10 |
Yes. Yes. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 28.08.2007 15:15 |
dotheneurotic wrote: Does anybody know for SURE why Flash and The Hero aren't in this tracklist? Is the video material of these 2 songs gone for good?Saul Swimmer, may he RIP, threw out the visuals to these two tracks. However, Mack did record the two tracks so they will appear on the vinyl and CD versions of the DVD. I am buying the CD for the FULL SHOW and the DVD (I sold my old copy) so I can hear Brian and Roger's take on these concerts. Saul Swimmer was off the mark saying Queen were "a cult band" in 1981. Queen were HUGE in the US and Canada at the time. A year later, they LOST the States thanks to Hot Space's frosty sales and then the "I Want to Break Free" video destroyed Queen for years. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 28.08.2007 15:49 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote: A year later, they LOST the States thanks to Hot Space's frosty sales and then the "I Want to Break Free" video destroyed Queen for years.Repeat after me. No it didn't. No it didn't. No it didn't. No it didn't. No it didn't. No it didn't. No it didn't. No it didn't. No it didn't. |
| Negative Creep 28.08.2007 16:00 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote:Well, that's the official line. Probably more likely whoever had ownership of the tape following his death didn't wish to surrender any additional footage - the 2 parties clearly didn't get on. Brian in particular seemed very bitter about it. Perhaps even QPL didn't want to pay a huge sum for any extra footage. Apparently there was trouble over releasing the Hammersmith 75 footage as QPL didn't wish to pay the full fee the BBC were asking and also interesting to note that the BBC footage on the GVH DVDs state that the footage is from the BBC... suggesting they had to put that info on or pay more for the privilege.dotheneurotic wrote: Does anybody know for SURE why Flash and The Hero aren't in this tracklist? Is the video material of these 2 songs gone for good?Saul Swimmer, may he RIP, threw out the visuals to these two tracks. |
| KevoM 29.08.2007 07:55 |
I think the BBC charge around £3000 per minute for music clips. This held up the release of the Adam & Ants DVD for some 4 years or so. Eventually they had to leave a few TOTP appearnces off the final DVD as Sony wouldn't cough up! |
| Penetration_Guru 29.08.2007 14:04 |
Negative Creep wrote:I disagree that this is more likely. Having edited together the original footage, there was no reason to keep anything else - do you see many outtakes on DVDs of films released before the DVD era? No - because there was no purpose to keeping that material.NOTWMEDDLE wrote:Well, that's the official line. Probably more likely whoever had ownership of the tape following his death didn't wish to surrender any additional footage - the 2 parties clearly didn't get on.dotheneurotic wrote: Does anybody know for SURE why Flash and The Hero aren't in this tracklist? Is the video material of these 2 songs gone for good?Saul Swimmer, may he RIP, threw out the visuals to these two tracks. |
| Tero 29.08.2007 14:42 |
KevoM wrote: I think the BBC charge around £3000 per minute for music clips. This held up the release of the Adam & Ants DVD for some 4 years or so. Eventually they had to leave a few TOTP appearnces off the final DVD as Sony wouldn't cough up!£3000 per minute isn't much of an obstacle if Bruce Springsteen was happy to release a two hour concert with the Born To Run set a few years ago... Admittedly it does require sales of more than 50,000 copies of the title to cover the licensing fees from QP's own pocket, but that much is very realistic. I guess it really proves that Queen is nothing more than a business, and they aren't willing to satisfy the fans with a release that would "only" break even. |
| Adam Baboolal 29.08.2007 17:02 |
£3000 per minute of footage??? Get to f*** BBC. Cheeky bastards asking that kind of money for something that wouldn't have existed if the band in question hadn't popped into the studio to record their bit for something like totp in the first place! Adam. |
| Asterik 30.08.2007 09:46 |
Well call me mad but I am genuinely looking forward to Montreal. It will be interesting to hear how they did CLTCL and UP without keyboard augmentation, especially the former because the rollicking piano really made the live version what it was by 1986- a stadium-consuming monster of a song. |
| Tero 30.08.2007 14:20 |
Asterik wrote: Well call me mad but I am genuinely looking forward to Montreal. It will be interesting to hear how they did CLTCL and UP without keyboard augmentation, especially the former because the rollicking piano really made the live version what it was by 1986- a stadium-consuming monster of a song.If you really wanted to hear them, you would have bought either of the previous DVD releases, or any of the VHS versions, and be in the same boat with the rest of us who own it several times over... That's why most of us aren't particularily thrilled about the release. |
| Holly2003 30.08.2007 15:08 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: £3000 per minute of footage??? Get to f*** BBC. Cheeky bastards asking that kind of money for something that wouldn't have existed if the band in question hadn't popped into the studio to record their bit for something like totp in the first place! Adam.Err.. Queen DID get publicty from those shows and no doubt a subsequent increase in record sales, concert tickets sold, etc. And if the BBC didn't charge this amount, I'd probably be paying a bigger TV license fee. So Brian May can dig a little deeper into his pockets as far as I'm concerned. |
| Asterik 04.09.2007 11:40 |
If you really wanted to hear them, you would have bought either of the previous DVD releases, or any of the VHS versions, and be in the same boat with the rest of us who own it several times over... That's why most of us aren't particularily thrilled about the release. Fair point, I suppose but it will be the first time I've seen it so I guess I'm the exception. |
| Michael Allred 04.09.2007 14:08 |
So if Queen wanted to include the Live Aid set on DVD as a bonus to the standard release, why didn't they include the set on CD as a bonus disc to the live album too? |
| PieterMC 04.09.2007 14:12 |
Michael Allred wrote: So if Queen wanted to include the Live Aid set on DVD as a bonus to the standard release, why didn't they include the set on CD as a bonus disc to the live album too?I think it's more a case of Eagle wanting to include it, rather than QP. Eagle are not releasing the CD, just the DVD. |
| Michael Allred 05.09.2007 08:23 |
PieterMC wrote:but the question remains......didn't the idea dawn on anyone involved?Michael Allred wrote: So if Queen wanted to include the Live Aid set on DVD as a bonus to the standard release, why didn't they include the set on CD as a bonus disc to the live album too?I think it's more a case of Eagle wanting to include it, rather than QP. Eagle are not releasing the CD, just the DVD. |
| PieterMC 05.09.2007 10:02 |
Michael Allred wrote:I doubt it.PieterMC wrote:but the question remains......didn't the idea dawn on anyone involved?Michael Allred wrote: So if Queen wanted to include the Live Aid set on DVD as a bonus to the standard release, why didn't they include the set on CD as a bonus disc to the live album too?I think it's more a case of Eagle wanting to include it, rather than QP. Eagle are not releasing the CD, just the DVD. |
| Tero 05.09.2007 11:22 |
PieterMC wrote:I think it might have passed their thoughts.Michael Allred wrote:I doubt it.PieterMC wrote:but the question remains......didn't the idea dawn on anyone involved?Michael Allred wrote: So if Queen wanted to include the Live Aid set on DVD as a bonus to the standard release, why didn't they include the set on CD as a bonus disc to the live album too?I think it's more a case of Eagle wanting to include it, rather than QP. Eagle are not releasing the CD, just the DVD. They're just going to wait another ten years to do a re-release of the album (a la Wembley) and advertise the Live Aid performance as an integral part of the new and complete cd. ;) |
| Michael Allred 13.10.2007 14:21 |
Here's a clip from youtube comparing the vocals from the old WWRY DVD of "Now I'm Here" to the clip from the QRM DVD that they use on the promo web site. link |
| Adam Baboolal 13.10.2007 15:52 |
Interesting comparison, if a bit brief. And by god, torturing that baby with the noise. Alink thing. Adam. |
| Holly2003 14.10.2007 04:13 |
Michael Allred wrote: Here's a clip from youtube comparing the vocals from the old WWRY DVD of "Now I'm Here" to the clip from the QRM DVD that they use on the promo web site. linkFantastic sound quality. You can even hear John crying about his failed perm. |
| Michael Allred 14.10.2007 11:07 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Interesting comparison, if a bit brief. And by god, torturing that baby with the noise. Alink thing. Adam.Yeah, that did distract from the audio a bit but never the less... |
| Bobby_brown 15.10.2007 17:32 |
What hapened there? On the first video Freddie hits a higher note. Did they altered the pitch of some songs on the first release to sound more like studio? Take care |
| Adam Baboolal 15.10.2007 18:58 |
The real question is, was it done for the QP version, or was it in place for the Eagle version before. Adam. |
| NTL 16.10.2007 08:32 |
I have said for years that the vocal from NIH was dubbed. The vocal on the whole song looks and sounds dubbed to me on the old release. |
| Dane 16.10.2007 11:03 |
bobby: I dont think they ever just pitch the vocal to make it fit, that would always sound a bit chipmunk-ish. They did however dub pieces of studio versions over the Wembley VHS release back in '92 for a lot of bits where Freddie couldn't reach. Not here on NIH, to me it sounds just as was stated, using a different audio take. |
| Dane 16.10.2007 11:04 |
double post |
| Freddie May 16.10.2007 12:28 |
I think audio from both nights was used : sometimes with the wrong images. Does is make sense ? |
| Bobby_brown 17.10.2007 11:07 |
It appears that they made the same mistake as in Budapest, and the speed was changed and so was the pitch. According to Brian on his website: ON TO A BAD VIDEO But then the thing went further wrong … somehow no-one had realised that Saul Swimmer would assume the rights to put the thing out as a Video. So, against our will, the VHS version, confusingly called We Will Rock You, was put out around 1984. Of course the concert had not been shot with this in mind. And the sound had been mixed dry, with no audience, so it would work in a ‘live’ situation … so it was really unsuitable for a video, as well as being a bad mix in the first place. To cap it all, it was transferred at the wrong speed on to video, so the whole thing ran at the wrong pitch. We made lots of complaints, and so did many of the people who had bought it, but this did not stop the Swimmer commercial thrust … the video was a thorn in our side for 25 years … out there with our name on – but something we had no control over. They even went to DVD around 2001. Take care |
| Voice of Reason 2018 24.10.2007 10:05 |
Now that this release is imminent can I just check one thing with you? Is this the concert where no-one sang along to Love of My Life prompting Freddie to say 'you don't know it'? |
| Bobby_brown 24.10.2007 17:02 |
Voice of Reason 2007 wrote: Now that this release is imminent can I just check one thing with you? Is this the concert where no-one sang along to Love of My Life prompting Freddie to say 'you don't know it'?Yes it is. Take care |
| Freddie May 26.10.2007 11:48 |
Both CD and DVD are already available in Belgium, I've seen them in two stores. One was shown an a big screen : it looked amazing for a non-HD version... |
| on my way up 26.10.2007 11:59 |
Freddie May wrote: Both CD and DVD are already available in Belgium, I've seen them in two stores. One was shown an a big screen : it looked amazing for a non-HD version...What shop was it? I'm from belgium. I will buy it monday in a shop where I get reduction because I'm a member. I can't wait! |
| Negative Creep 26.10.2007 12:22 |
They probably used the other nights recording of NIH, as the video uses footage from both nights. Perhaps they thought the other nghts recording synched up better. |
| Freddie May 26.10.2007 12:29 |
On my way up, I saw them at Fnac and Bilbo (Leuven). The DVD is pretty cheap (22€ for the QRM/Live Aid package) compared to the Last AC DC one wich is 10€ higher. CD cost 18€. |
| on my way up 26.10.2007 12:32 |
Freddie May wrote: On my way up, I saw them at Fnac and Bilbo (Leuven).I will buy it in fnac ghent:-) Do you collect queen live recordings? |
| [ Wybren™ ] 26.10.2007 13:09 |
Freddie May wrote: On my way up, I saw them at Fnac and Bilbo (Leuven). The DVD is pretty cheap (22€ for the QRM/Live Aid package) compared to the Last AC DC one wich is 10€ higher. CD cost 18€.Today I bought the DVD (at FreeRecordShop, Enschede) and I'm watching it now... It seems to have more speeches and time between the songs. And Freddie says: 'This is called Killer Queen' which I don't think was on the previous release. Also on I'm in love with my car, you can hear Freddie sing :'Oh...Oh yes' (Like the 'Oh yeah!' on Live Killers). Now I'm Here seems different, with another intro, but I have to compare it to the old DVD. The sound is very much improved. This release has the best audio mix of all the Queen DVDs IMHO. The piano is much louder. The drums sound is louder than on Wembley or Milton Keynes. The last thing I want to say is that the bass guitar sound in Get Down Make Love sounds very 'raw'. It's a good release, only the bonus DVD seems to be a bit disappointing. |
| [ Wybren™ ] 26.10.2007 13:15 |
Btw: The DVD wasn't in the store yet. When I asked when it would be in the store, the salesgirl said she already had it in the back of the shop. The DVD is €22,99. The DVD seems to be in other FreeRecordShops as well. |
| Freddie May 26.10.2007 15:41 |
I've only got bootlegs of the most important concerts but I can't say I'm a real collector ;) |
| inu-liger 28.10.2007 05:44 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: I pray this doesn't turn into yet another of Inu's, 'I love bluray so much, I want its babies!' kinda threads. Every single time a dvd thread pops up, he feels the need to advertise BR. Adam.(I know this is VERY late, but I've been avoiding QZ for a long time...so I'm catching up) Seriously, shut the fuck up if you're going to deride me for liking Blu-ray and expressing my views about it. I certainly do NOT bring it up every time a DVD thread comes up. I've only ever mentioned it in regards to SOME discussions on Montreal '81 or Budapest '86, which had to do with those concerts that were filmed on FILM, not fucking VHS, Betamax or w/e (I do NOT advocate upconverted "high-def" releases, to make a point...yet I know of a few that are actually out there, including one Roy Orbinson title coming up I believe) Needless to point out however, at the same time, I will NOT be buying this release on DVD...I will be only going with the BD release, since I see no need to double-dip within this re-release alone (having acquired all 3 previous Pioneer DVD editions already). However, it seems there might not be a lossless audio option on the high-def releases, or so I gathered from a recent article on the formats by Justin Shirley-Smith when discussing QRM....that in itself is a total WTF. But then again, QP always likes to screw around with us as always, holding back the best bits :( |
| Adam Baboolal 28.10.2007 20:39 |
Wow...and you're saying this to the guy who stuck up for you in the old days. Hmm...thanks for that Inu. Oh and also, I wasn't the only one to express this little view that was, btw, only poking fun at you. |
| inu-liger 28.10.2007 22:30 |
Well I didn't see it as poking fun at me... I dunno, I've just been stressed out at a lot of things lately...don't want to get into it. I apologize, and I do realize that some other people made similar comments, but yours was most direct, and I took offense at it. |