| Treasure Moment 02.04.2007 13:53 |
they should have stopped playing under the Queen name after no one but you, this new album will probably suck and will just ruin the Queen legacy. GIVE IT UP GUYS!!!! if you want to continue playing music play under ANOTHER name |
| beautifulsoup 02.04.2007 13:54 |
and on and on and on and on and on we go... |
| PieterMC 02.04.2007 13:55 |
Ooooh another topic about this... |
| brian-harold-may 26643 02.04.2007 14:33 |
boring...just so FUCKING BORING!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Matías 02.04.2007 15:39 |
Who the fuck are you to tell them to change their name?? The won't do it!!!!!!!!!!!! You're such a idiot!!! |
| Raststätte-Knödel 02.04.2007 15:59 |
Atheist wrote: they should have stopped playing under the Queen name after no one but you, this new album will probably suck and will just ruin the Queen legacy. GIVE IT UP GUYS!!!! if you want to continue playing music play under ANOTHER nameI agree, but it just won't happen I guess. |
| brian-harold-may 26643 02.04.2007 16:05 |
anyway, Why after no one but you, why not after freddie died. is it because no one but you was great, if this album is great will u say "well...it's ok i suppose". anyway they were the two founding members FREDDIE JOINED! they are Queen not the old queen no, but they are still queen. |
| QueenTaylor 02.04.2007 16:09 |
That is why it is Queen + Paul Rodgers..he's no member of Queen....its Queen+Paul Rodgers and it will never be Queen again! |
| Elizabeth Knightson 02.04.2007 16:20 |
Although I think we should Brian and Roger use the Queen name as they want (nb: they NEVER inculded Paul in the Queen name, it's Queen+Paul Rodgers for God's sake!), one could argue that although Brian and Roger were at the very start of the band, the name Queen in itself was found by Freddie (even Brian and Roger admitted they weren't really enthusiast about it at the begining)so maybe if Freddie is dead, the name shouldn't be used. However, I think Roger and Brian who spent twenty years of their life with Freddie, know what they're doing and have the right to use the Queen name even nowadays without John and Freddie. It wouldn't even make sense if they took a new name. |
| Dan C. 02.04.2007 16:40 |
PieterMC wrote: Ooooh another topic about this...Do you mean to say that this has been discussed before? |
| Phill the Thrill 02.04.2007 16:42 |
wholly crap, you mean Brian and Roger are making music as queen again? i've never heard of this...is john involved. i bet the got john to come out of retirement and THATS the only reason they are using the name queen...they would never call themselves queen with only 2 of them right? god will this argument never end...its not exactly like any of these topics bring anything knew, its just the same damdn shit we get 30 times a week |
| PieterMC 02.04.2007 16:47 |
Dan Corson V: Altered Beast wrote:I believe it has Dan. I believe it has.PieterMC wrote: Ooooh another topic about this...Do you mean to say that this has been discussed before? |
| bigV 02.04.2007 17:32 |
In other news: Recent studies have shown that getting a life improves your chances of getting laid. V. |
| Sharon G.Queen Fan 02.04.2007 17:37 |
this band should be called 1/2 Queen +PR. |
| deleted user 02.04.2007 22:01 |
Wow, how the hell does this stuff even end up here?? There's no way they're gonna change the name. I agree half of queen & paul rogers would work. Sharon G.Queen Fan Posted: 4/2/2007 5:37:16 PM this band should be called 1/2 Queen +PR. |
| deleted user 02.04.2007 22:02 |
bigV wrote: In other news: Recent studies have shown that getting a life improves your chances of getting laid. V.ROFLMAO. Oh yeah. very smart. Hey, Rog and Brian......some fan wants you to change your name! Hear that? Rog and Brian: yeah! let's change it to -Queen -Paul Rodgers -Freddie Mercury 1/2 x 2. >_< |
| Knute 02.04.2007 22:34 |
Wow, this is a fresh and exciting topic. Why hasn't anyone though of something like this before for a topic of discussion? I can hardly wait to engage in a dialogue and come to understand the fascinating points of view concerning this subject matter. |
| sparrow 21754 02.04.2007 23:29 |
what about Smile: the resurrection minus tim staffel? ...it could work >.> |
| Ella! Formerly known as the Metal Maiden 02.04.2007 23:34 |
Queen should stay. Paul Rodgers should go. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 02.04.2007 23:59 |
Elizabeth Knightson wrote: Although I think we should Brian and Roger use the Queen name as they want (nb: they NEVER inculded Paul in the Queen name, it's Queen+Paul Rodgers for God's sake!), one could argue that although Brian and Roger were at the very start of the band, the name Queen in itself was found by Freddie (even Brian and Roger admitted they weren't really enthusiast about it at the begining)so maybe if Freddie is dead, the name shouldn't be used. However, I think Roger and Brian who spent twenty years of their life with Freddie, know what they're doing and have the right to use the Queen name even nowadays without John and Freddie. It wouldn't even make sense if they took a new name.Elizabeth, as you seem like a good soul I'll be gentle. No one has ever said B & R don't have the "right" to use the Queen name. However, for the man on the street, Freddie was Queen. To some people, Queen was the four of them. "Rights" have nothing to do with it. Brian is perhaps the finest gentleman in music. But at one time, Brian took a vow before God to be faithful to his wife. It was his "right" to do what made him happy. He committed adultery. He also had the "right" to play in a blacklisted country whose racist policies were abhorrent to most artists and sportsmen in the world. My point is, what B & R feel their "rights" are may be right for them. It may be absolutely wrong for other people, and those people will never accept B & R using the Queen name. Rights are what you feel. Someone here who doesn't care that they are calling themselves Queen recently said something like "five letters (Q-U-E-E-N) shouldn't mean more than the music" and that person is absolutely right. But, I'd counter that if it's about the music, dump the Queen name, because Freddie Mercury made Queen different. However, it's not about the music, it's about sales and brand recognition. There's no shame in that, but for my money, it ain't Queen without John and Freddie. If others say it is that's great. I just wish that people would be honest and say it's about sales and nothing more. |
| Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 03.04.2007 00:31 |
"the brian may and roger taylor's band with paul rodgers on vocals project" |
| deleted user 03.04.2007 00:39 |
^ rofl haha...good one :P |
| Elizabeth Knightson 03.04.2007 01:35 |
Boy Raker, I think I got your point though I'm not sure whether you are talking "rights" on a legal point of view or a moral point of view. I was talking from a moral point of view: Brian and Roger think there's no harm in using the name. (I think Freddie wouldn't mind that) |
| i_wuv_my_freddie_fruit 03.04.2007 02:58 |
thank you... someone who finally thinks the same thing i do... theres only half the members of the oringal band left so why don't they just start fresh with a new name. they will just do as well with a new name as they did with queen but i do agree that they should change their name by far. |
| Bigbrotherbp 03.04.2007 05:50 |
In my opinion, if Queen changes their name, so the lengend of Queen is over. |
| Boy Thomas Raker 03.04.2007 08:28 |
Hi Elizabeth. My POV is based on the fact that some people's argument is that Brian and Roger have the "right" to be called Queen, and that ends the discussion. I don't disagree with that assertion that being in the band for 30 years gives them that right, but just because a member of QZ says it's Queen, or Brian and Roger are calling it Queen doesn't mean a thing. They are the two active members of Queen who use the name, which is their right. Here's a quiz for people to decide who Queen is: A) vocals: Freddie guitar: Brian drums: Roger bass: John B) vocals: Paul Rodgers guitar: Brian drums: Roger bass: all of the above C) vocals: Paul Rodgers guitar: Eddie Van Halen drums: Roger bass: John D) vocals: Eddie Murphy guitar: guy from Flock of Seagulls drums: Sheila E. bass: John E) vocals: John guitar: Rufus Taylor drums: programmed bass: programmed If you believe that A and B are Queen, then you have to believe that C, D and E, and any other combination of musicians are also Queen. After all, if it's only a name, and John has the right, then you absolutely cannot argue that John can tour this summer with a comedian who can't sing, the crazy haired guy from Flock of Seagulls replacing Brian and Prince's percussionist and call that lineup Queen. The key is whether you accept that, and anybody who says it's only a name had better be in the front row watching Eddie Murphy belt out Bohemian Rhapsody. |
| Mike S. 03.04.2007 09:38 |
I say they get Staffell back and become Smile again. |
| Dan C. 03.04.2007 11:08 |
PieterMC wrote:Shit! I've got to get with the times!Dan Corson V: Altered Beast wrote:I believe it has Dan. I believe it has.PieterMC wrote: Ooooh another topic about this...Do you mean to say that this has been discussed before? |
| Boy Thomas Raker 03.04.2007 11:26 |
"Shut the fuck up you dickweed. Are you retarded? Money makes the world go around. EMI is a company. A company exists to make profits. If they use the name Queen they'll get more money. FACT. Ever hear that accountants control things." Another fine example of what passes for reasoned discussion on QZ these days. |
| PieterMC 03.04.2007 13:16 |
I seem to recall a concert in 1993 at Cowdray Park where Roger and John performed and they called themselves Queen. |
| onevsion 03.04.2007 13:17 |
another pointless, useless boring topic on queenzone.... we need moderation overhere..... |
| brian-harold-may 26643 03.04.2007 17:11 |
Ducksoup wrote: another pointless, useless boring topic on queenzone.... we need moderation overhere.....yep |
| Treasure Moment 03.04.2007 19:33 |
ThomasQu?nn wrote:first of all shut up yourself you stupid motherfucker! of course they will get more money if they use the name, i was just saying that brian and roger themselfs should change the name out of respect for the bands legacy, now go and die you stupid cunt!Atheist wrote: they should have stopped playing under the Queen name after no one but you, this new album will probably suck and will just ruin the Queen legacy. GIVE IT UP GUYS!!!! if you want to continue playing music play under ANOTHER nameShut the fuck up you dickweed. Are you retarded? Money makes the world go around. EMI is a company. A company exists to make profits. If they use the name Queen they'll get more money. FACT. Ever hear that accountants control things. Get use to that fact. It's a fact. Money talks. |
| redspecial85 07.04.2007 00:29 |
Athiest, This is a ridiculous idea...lets go further than the marketing and fiscal aspects of all this. And get to the experiences and the blood, sweat, and tears that Brian and Roger put into Queen, through thick and thin; high and low...saw and experienced everything and on top of all that having to serve as the defacto spokesmen for the group. Its unfair and appalling to bring that question!! Let alone after its been brought to the discussion table how many times before?! Freddie left his mark. Brian and Roger are trying to break new grounds and find a new starting point...they're not trying to overshadow his legacy, or milk his legacy. They deserve that chance!!! I honestly don't think Freddie would mind it...being that he's dead and all (God rest his soul) what is he gonna do about it? I think he'd be excited about it. If you have a problem with it...that's your problem...you've had your chances in the previous discussions to vent your frustrations on the idea. Quit being such a douche bag and stirring problems on this site!! You're one of the reasons wby there's so many people getting sick of QueenZone! Grow Up!! |
| Poo, again 07.04.2007 06:28 |
Mike S. wrote: I say they get Staffell back and become Smile again. |
| Elizabeth Knightson 07.04.2007 06:48 |
Agree with Redspecial (the Brian and Roger point) |
| john bodega 07.04.2007 11:10 |
I say Ringo, Paul, Pete and Roger should Join Together with the band, or Let it Be. |
| Matias Merçeauroix 07.04.2007 13:51 |
They'll change the name to "WE'RE OLD AND STUPID, AND IT'S BEEN AGES SINCE THE LAST TIME WE GOT LAID, SO WE'LL GO ON TOUR ALL OVER THE WORLD BUT WE WON'T GO TO SOUTHAMERICA BECAUSE WE'RE ASSHOLES AND WE DON'T CARE" oh, I forgot to add the + PAUL RODGERS |
| deleted user 07.04.2007 14:43 |
Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: AND IT'S BEEN AGES SINCE THE LAST TIME WE GOT LAIDNot for Roger. LMAO. |
| Matias Merçeauroix 07.04.2007 18:01 |
yeah, he got bottomed last week |
| Sweetie 07.04.2007 21:51 |
Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: yeah, he got bottomed last weekteehee |
| Boy Thomas Raker 07.04.2007 22:13 |
Hi redspecial85, I agree with what you posted, but playing devil's advocate, if "Brian and Roger are trying to break new grounds and find a new starting point", shouldn't they be moving as far away as they can from the Queen name? |
| Elizabeth Knightson 08.04.2007 04:36 |
That's what Queen did at the beginning of the eighties, new music doesn't imply new name. |
| Treasure Moment 08.04.2007 07:41 |
they cant it call it queen simply because they dont have freddies foundation of songwriting, freddie had a HUGE impact on the Queen sound with his classical inspired songwriting |
| Matias Merçeauroix 08.04.2007 13:23 |
Atheist wrote: they cant it call it queen simply because they dont have freddies foundation of songwriting, freddie had a HUGE impact on the Queen sound with his classical inspired songwritingNO SHIT! |
| Crezchi 08.04.2007 13:51 |
Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote:No this topic is shit!Atheist wrote: they cant it call it queen simply because they dont have freddies foundation of songwriting, freddie had a HUGE impact on the Queen sound with his classical inspired songwritingNO SHIT! |
| Treasure Moment 08.04.2007 18:20 |
Crezchi wrote:be silent idiot!Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote:No this topic is shit!Atheist wrote: they cant it call it queen simply because they dont have freddies foundation of songwriting, freddie had a HUGE impact on the Queen sound with his classical inspired songwritingNO SHIT! |
| Sergei. 08.04.2007 18:32 |
Atheist wrote:He IS silent. Realise this whole discussion is silent.Crezchi wrote:be silent idiot!Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote:No this topic is shit!Atheist wrote: they cant it call it queen simply because they dont have freddies foundation of songwriting, freddie had a HUGE impact on the Queen sound with his classical inspired songwritingNO SHIT! |
| Adolfo and the spiders from Mercury 08.04.2007 20:07 |
this topic is shit |
| Treasure Moment 09.04.2007 07:51 |
Adolfo wrote: this topic is shitso are YOU |