QueenZone discussion #975522

Phill the Thrill wrote: wouldnt that just be a differant version of the crappy we will rock you dvd? where the crowed sucks?

Zeni wrote: Extras are the only thing that can save it for me. Already bought the damn thing 4 or 5 times.

Zeni wrote: All I expect of this next version is QP yanking out the center channel and telling me it's better.

Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote: But what's really the point of this release, the Pioneer release has AMAZING picture quality and the sound is great too. I find the concert itself crappy, but I don't see how QP can change that... (maybe overdub the audience?) LOL

NTL wrote:

Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote: But what's really the point of this release, the Pioneer release has AMAZING picture quality and the sound is great too. I find the concert itself crappy, but I don't see how QP can change that... (maybe overdub the audience?) LOL

Yes the picture was great but the sound was dreadful, not the quality just the mix. I have said before that I think this will be great with a decent sound mix, I think it will transform the show, and who knows, there could be loads of unseen reels of film from both nights and stuff not originally on the VHS like Flash/The Hero and a full guitar solo.

Penetration_Guru wrote: I will retain residual disappointment at the proximity of it to the MK date with no Earl's Court/Houston/Hammersmith anywhere in our foreseeable future....

KingMercury wrote: that was already released it is the WWRY dvd the audience sucks! i dont think this will be the next DVD i dont think so

Billy Bob Bubbles wrote: This is by far the easiest Queen concert to acquire in any format, including laserdisc.. and in multiple versions. It's truly, truly the most unnecessary release they could possibly redo.

Mike Van wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if QP just slaps their stamp of approval on Montreal and essentially releases a version identical to the Pioneer version released multiple times in the past.

pow wow wrote: I've bought the VHS to this and the DVD so I feel entitled to download the 'new' official DVD for free. If QP want to rip us off again - two can play at that game!

Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote: The "rumour" has already been confirmed by Brian's site... Like it or not, that's what we'll get...

<b><font color="#FF1493">The Fairy King wrote: The COMPLETE Montreal concert + extra's? Why not? :)

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: I'm pretty sure it will be the EXACT(!!) same audio/video as the WWRY one. Maybe they will improve the quality a bit, but I don't think they will choose just one night of the both nights they played. I also doubt there will be any extras, maybe some interviews we already heard.

bigV wrote:

pow wow wrote: I've bought the VHS to this and the DVD so I feel entitled to download the 'new' official DVD for free. If QP want to rip us off again - two can play at that game!

So if you bought a VW Golf 2 would that entitle you to steal the brand-new VW Gold 4? V.

cmsdrums wrote: Blimey, didn't take them long to secure the rights after Saul Swimmer died did it??!!!! I presume there must already have been a clause passing the rights to them upon his death.

masterstroke_84 wrote: Bs As 81 doesn´t have a PRO filming... only the (horrible) t.v footage... yes, complete concert but awful in terms of sound/picture quality P.

cmsdrums wrote: ps - Does anyone know if the current WWRY DVD releases suffer from the same problem as the Budapest video, in that they are slightly too fast to make up for an NTSC/PAL frmae rate issue???

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

cmsdrums wrote: ps - Does anyone know if the current WWRY DVD releases suffer from the same problem as the Budapest video, in that they are slightly too fast to make up for an NTSC/PAL frmae rate issue???

Definitely not. Budapest plays a semitone too fast, and Montreal's audio is at the correct speed. As for the Montreal DVD announcement, I think we should all wait to express our thoughts until it's actually released... or at least, when they release a listing of what will be on it. Maybe this is QP's way of indicating that there isn't much else in their archives worth releasing into today's world of high quality DVDs. Maybe they really don't have any other shows that have complete, usable video and multitrack audio. Based on what we know, the only realistic possibility remaining may be Budapest 86. I fear that there is no releasable complete 70s concert in their vaults. Why else do you think all the documentaries of the last 20 years keep showing the same clips? Regardless, we're not going to get anywhere by being cynical. All we can do is sit back and hope that there is a gem in there.

Queengirl47 wrote: I CAN'T WAIT til this comes out!!

YourValentine wrote: maybe even a Brian and Roger audio commentary with Brian complaining about the small stage and Roger moaning about his outfit and hairdo...

bigV wrote:

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: I'm pretty sure it will be the EXACT(!!) same audio/video as the WWRY one. Maybe they will improve the quality a bit, but I don't think they will choose just one night of the both nights they played. I also doubt there will be any extras, maybe some interviews we already heard.

I wonder if the audio recording QPL have in their (ahem!) archives could be used for a 5.1 mix of the show. V.

on my way up wrote: Most fans tend to forget that the Montreal shows and the Budapest show were recorded especially to be released.

KevMull wrote: THIS IS FANTASTIC NEWS! Guess i'm the only one who's interested in a possible release of WWRY in high def? Forget your 70s TV electronic/video stuff on SD DVD, Queen in HD would be something else. Believe me if they ever release WWRY in HD (and do a good job) then you'll be begging them to release Budapest in HD too. But something tells me that QP are not on the ball these days when it comes to the latest technolgies or latest market trends....retro 70s anybody?

YourValentine wrote: But seriously: where is the law that tells them that only polished, perfect, overdubbed concerts in surround sound are good concerts? Why not release a non-perfect but genuine and realistic concert? Why not Houston, Earl's Court, Hammersmith 79 in decent stereo wih no cropped screens? There is a market for such releases, there is a very strong desire to see something real.

Chrirons wrote: 1986, 1982, 1981... we're getting closer to a 70's show!!!!!!!!

AlexRocks wrote: So anyway what is it that you do not understand that they need to (or would like to) release their previous VHS releases on d.v.d. first?

AlexRocks wrote: A dozen years between "Live At Wembley" and "On Fire: At The Bowl".

YourValentine wrote: On the other hand we are still waiting for more DVD-Audio releases - we still have only The Game and ANATO - which was released 3 times!

Penetration_Guru wrote:

on my way up wrote: Most fans tend to forget that the Montreal shows and the Budapest show were recorded especially to be released.

So were Rainbow '74 & Earl's Court '77. Unfortunately that doesn't suit the logic of your point.

KevoM wrote: I don't think there's much support for DVD-A by any artist, let alone Queen, which is a real shame as I love the format. Though it was a step in the right direction as far as decent audio quality is conecerned. But alas a certain gadget called the iPod and mp3 player seems to have put an end to DVD-A (and SACD). Oh well, that's progress

Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote: For the record, Genesis are taking that risk, this year they will release ALL their albums in SACD and that's fine with me ;-)

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Mustapha_Ibrahim wrote: For the record, Genesis are taking that risk, this year they will release ALL their albums in SACD and that's fine with me ;-)

Holy crap, that's amazing!!

AlexRocks wrote: PieterMC I wasn't talking about formats. I was talking about any type of live release in whatever format. "Live At Wembley" while in VHS was originally released in 1992. In terms of "Montreal '81" it has yet to be released by Queen as from what I understand someone else had owned the rights to it. For whatever reason they kept re-releasing it over and over many times.

AlexRocks wrote: PieterMC I wasn't talking about formats. I was talking about any type of live release in whatever format. "Live At Wembley" while in VHS was originally released in 1992. In terms of "Montreal '81" it has yet to be released by Queen as from what I understand someone else had owned the rights to it. For whatever reason they kept re-releasing it over and over many times.

PieterMC wrote: I did not buy the Hollywood WWRY Greatest Hits, the re-release of the Wembley CD or the 30th Anniversary NATO CD.

cmsdrums wrote: This is top secret, but I know what is coming after the Montreal DVD. They have weighed up the pros and cons of releasing either Earls Court, Hammersmith 75 and 79 as a double disc release, and Rainbow and Hyde Park 76 also as a double. After much consideration, QP have decided that there isn't the fan demand for the above, so have decided to re-release Greatest Video Hits I+II as a double DVD pack - absoultely no change to the contents but with a slightly more shiny box with a new picture. This is bound to help fill a few Xmas 2008 stockings, and will tide them over for a few years before having to consider releasing anything else that may interfere with the upcoming Q+PR album. At the moment this is, obviously, a 'joke'. but if it comes to pass, then you heard it from me first!!!!!

Erin wrote:

PieterMC wrote: I did not buy the Hollywood WWRY Greatest Hits, the re-release of the Wembley CD or the 30th Anniversary NATO CD.

Oh, but you will eventually. ;-P

Boy Thomas Raker wrote: It's not that the release of WWRY from Montreal is a problem, Bobby Brown, it's the cynical nature of QP. Not enough material for GHIII? Pad it with the opposite of hits by Wyclef Jean and solo non-hits rather than a release of something worthwhile. People want Earls Court or High Park? Nonsense, they really want the third incarnation of the Montreal concert. Brian, Roger and Jim Beach would go to the opening of an envelope if they thought it could one more cent into the QP coffers. I understand business, but have a hard to reconciling that with the fact that Queen the band were once creative risk takers of the highest order. Now, they're content with sales only, and if they put half as much effort into the ANATO 30th anniversary package as they do licencing their music to shite complilations we'd probably have had a worthwhile product rather than embarassing seaside footage and stock film.

AlexRocks wrote: The point being PieterMC with your smart ass remark is that if Queen haven't had creative control or been able to make the most money out of it that they can because they did not release it themselves then they are going to want to do that dumbfuck which explains EXACTLY why this is happening. It's not my fault that that is too much for you to handle.

KevMull wrote: Anyway, the answer to the question 'The next Queen DVD is.....' is Live in Rio If like the 2 previous live DVDs then I would imagine it's the full version. link