inu-liger 25.02.2007 15:59 |
(Excuse my lateness in the What If's fad) How about it? Since John is retired, Roger could replace him in the next Queen(+) tour, plus add the benefit of being a singer in addition to his great bass playing abilities :D "Another Brick In The Wall Part II" or "Hey You", anyone? (Maybe even "One Of These Days", or best of all..."Money"!!) Btw. I'm going to be seeing Roger Waters in concert this June 24th! Row 5 - Floor, Seat 1 :D |
Deacon Fan 25.02.2007 19:11 |
Hmm, but what Queen songs could he handle well with that shrill, thin voice of his? ;) Be good on bass though, yeah. |
deleted user 25.02.2007 19:17 |
How about Queen + Robert Plant?... did I hear someone say "Stairway to Heaven?" ;) XD |
inu-liger 25.02.2007 19:25 |
A very tame bunny wrote: Hmm, but what Queen songs could he handle well with that shrill, thin voice of his? ;) Be good on bass though, yeah."I'm Going Slightly Mad", maybe? (Would certainly fit him in more than one way *ahem*) He could also do David Bowie's part on "Under Pressure", which would be a song I wouldn't mind seeing him play on bass at least ;-) What I would love MOST actually, would be for him to duet with Brian on "Comfortably Numb", with Brian singing David's parts....would fit his sweet voice :) "Young Lust" would make for a great rocking track that isn't too unlike Queen's hard rock style :D Hmm, Queen + Robert Plant....that already happened like 15 years ago this April. |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 25.02.2007 20:03 |
<font color="FF0066">Helter Skelter wrote: How about Queen + Robert Plant?... did I hear someone say "Stairway to Heaven?" ;) XDno thanks,innuendo was bad enough and dont even get me started on cwazy little thing called love |
Matias Merçeauroix 25.02.2007 22:29 |
Roger Waters would savagely destroy the songs. He's one of the worst singers I've ever heard. And he's not a great bassist either. |
shammy 26.02.2007 01:12 |
As much as I love PF and Waters, this combination's choice of (Queen) songs would be more limited than with PR. |
inu-liger 26.02.2007 02:28 |
shammy wrote: As much as I love PF and Waters, this combination's choice of (Queen) songs would be more limited than with PR.Well, I never meant he had to SING all the Queen songs...those duties could be mainly left to Brian and Roger....I was trying to say he could REPLACE John Deacon on bass, with having vocal abilities on some songs as a *bonus*. Guess I wasn't clear enough :P Anyways, I realized something earlier...there is a small Queen-Pink Floyd link: Brian played on the Foo Fighters' second cover version of "Have A Cigar", which is a great cover (my only complaint is that Brian doesn't really do the original solo, but does his own thing rather, so he has yet to properly play a David Gilmour solo :P ) |
bigV 26.02.2007 03:20 |
Brian May, standing on top of the Wall, playing the sublime solo at the end of "Comfortably Numb"... Bliss! :) V. |
Sweetie 26.02.2007 03:20 |
the guy who owned this house was Roger Waters |
deleted user 26.02.2007 04:53 |
That sounds like the most horrible combination imaginable. Roger Waters singing with Queen. First of all both musicstyle's are completely different and there isn't a change to get a decent combination. Next point; Waters can't even sing half of all Pink Floyd songs how do you ever expect him to sing a difficult, fast hard rock song from Queen? With all respect, I love his voice he has a lot of character in it. BTW, I think your gonna see a great show I saw this tour last year live on Arrow Rock and it was one of the best gigs I ever attended! |
MarioPeru 26.02.2007 05:10 |
I got almost all of PF and all of Queen, i like both bands, but Pink Floyd is no only different, Waters is very sad and melancholic..he could play better with Radiohead. i try to imagine his voice with romantic Mercury songs, he could play the bass like John Deacon, without singing...I only imagine Is This The World..?sung by RW, he loves the antiwar stuff
Btw, he will play in Perù, hard to see so important musicians in my country but it seems south america is good place to progressive rockers, i love progressive and i could see EL&P,Jethro Tull,Yes,well..not genesis but Phil Colins :( and now a member of PF, at least come here that style of musicians.
<font color=black>Dennis Daja<h6>QZs Dio wrote: That sounds like the most horrible combination imaginable. Roger Waters singing with Queen. First of all both musicstyle's are completely different and there isn't a change to get a decent combination. Next point; Waters can't even sing half of all Pink Floyd songs how do you ever expect him to sing a difficult, fast hard rock song from Queen? With all respect, I love his voice he has a lot of character in it. BTW, I think your gonna see a great show I saw this tour last year live on Arrow Rock and it was one of the best gigs I ever attended! |
Saif 26.02.2007 06:09 |
Sadly, writing songs is where Roger Waters is only good at... The songs he sings fit him though.
MarioPeru wrote: I got almost all of PF and all of Queen, i like both bands, but Pink Floyd is no only different, Waters is very sad and melancholic..he could play better with Radiohead. i try to imagine his voice with romantic Mercury songs, he could play the bass like John Deacon, without singing...I only imagine Is This The World..?sung by RW, he loves the antiwar stuff Btw, he will play in Perù, hard to see so important musicians in my country but it seems south america is good place to progressive rockers, i love progressive and i could see EL&P,Jethro Tull,Yes,well..not genesis but Phil Colins :( and now a member of PF, at least come here that style of musicians.Phil Collins is horrible, obnoxious, untalented. Gabriel-era Genesis was good though. "We Can't Dance" was essentially a crap Phil Collins album but I guess he decided to spare some cash in royalties for his friends... |
Wilki Amieva 26.02.2007 07:50 |
I will also be attending Roger Waters concerts on March 17 and 18. Unlike the last tour he presented here, he will be doing mostly PINK FLOYD stuff this time ...not to mention he will be playing THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON in its enterity!!! |
masterstroke_84 26.02.2007 08:06 |
Ill be there too... Unfortunately he only plays 2 solo songs on this tour... sadly because i love Waters solo albums, like The pros and cons or amused to death... But anyway he is a genius and a legend and is a "must-see" P. |
Al TurHao 26.02.2007 11:38 |
For those who will see Roger Waters, I can ashure you he provides you with (probably) the best live concert these days. I saw him in "In The Flesh Tour" a couple of years ago, and again last year in the beggining of the World Tour, in Lisbon in RockInRio. Since it was going to be a festival, I thought to myself he was going to play perhaps like 90 minutes... He entered stage at midnight (after Santana) and played for 2h 40min!!!! AMAZING! He upgraded his last tour and it sounds amazing. He did a miniset of Final Cut songs which suit perfectly in the anti-war concert clima. You'll be blown away! PS: In his concert in France celebrating 100 years of same race circuit, he had Nick Mason as a guest for the 2nd part (Dark Side of the Moon). Does anyone know if this was played with 2 drummers (Nick Mason and RW's G.Broad) or if Broad left stage (which would be a shame 'cause he's really an excellent drummer!)??? |
Al TurHao 26.02.2007 11:42 |
As for RW being a good bass player... He's a great musician and a genius in composition, nut he's not THAT good as a bass player. He's good, but no John Deacon. Yes, he has the Money bass riff which is superb, but most of the hard studio parts (like the fret solo in Hey You, like someone mentioned) were played by Gilmour. BTW, did all of you know that Roger Waters said in 1987 something like: "I actually believe that these days there no other musician that writes better songs than me. Well... perhaps Freddie Mercury." ;) |
The Real Wizard 26.02.2007 11:46 |
<font color=black>Dennis Daja<h6>QZs Dio wrote: That sounds like the most horrible combination imaginable. Roger Waters singing with Queen. First of all both musicstyle's are completely different and there isn't a change to get a decent combination.Roger Waters is just as different from Queen as Paul Rodgers. As for comparing Deacy to Waters... I'd say they're at about the same level of technical ability. They just have different styles. I think Queen with Waters on bass would be a very interesting combination. I'm just imagining hearing Time with Roger's drums and Brian's guitar. That really would work! |
jeffuk49 26.02.2007 12:07 |
I'd rather have Queen+Mr Blobby |
Lester Burnham 26.02.2007 12:19 |
Fun fact: David Gilmour played bass on a lot more Pink Floyd songs than Roger did. |
Micrówave 26.02.2007 13:01 |
Hello Hello Hello Could we really out-do Roger & Cindy Lauper's performance? Roger has slowly faded to boring since Radio Kaos. |
its_a_hard_life 26994 26.02.2007 13:42 |
Syd!!!!!!!!!! <3 Shame he's gone. xD |
bigV 26.02.2007 14:00 |
Micrówave wrote: Hello Hello Hello Could we really out-do Roger & Cindy Lauper's performance? Roger has slowly faded to boring since Radio Kaos.Very few albums, released over the past 20 years, are as important or as deeply involving "Amused To Death". V. |
The Real Wizard 26.02.2007 14:22 |
<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: Syd!!!!!!!!!! <3 Shame he's gone. xDCan someone please explain why Syd is so important? He played on 1 1/2 Pink Floyd albums. To me, that would like like Rush fans crying over the loss of John Rutsey. |
Boy Thomas Raker 26.02.2007 20:41 |
Sorry, Saif, gonna' have to call you on this. To say that Phil Collins is untalented is 100% incorrect. He could be horrible, he could be obnoxious, you may hate his voice and his being, but if you've ever heard him play drums you have no idea what talent is or isn't. |
Smitty 26.02.2007 20:59 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Or Beatles fans crying over the loss of Pete Best.<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: Syd!!!!!!!!!! <3 Shame he's gone. xDCan someone please explain why Syd is so important? He played on 1 1/2 Pink Floyd albums. To me, that would like like Rush fans crying over the loss of John Rutsey. |
Jeff Silveira 27.02.2007 00:54 |
Pink Floyd and Queen are my all time favs...I saw Roger Waters last october at the Shoreline, and it was fantastic!!! here's the thing about Syd...he was a genius with lyrics and rhyming...listen to Floyds first album and u will see what i mean...also, he is a tragic figure...top of the world and then due to drugs, his schzitzphoniea(spelling) kicks in a little earlier then it might have...Floyd to me, is better then Zep, and on some albums better then Queen, I go through periods where i cant decide who is better... |
john bodega 27.02.2007 01:13 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:I mean really.... to us, the common public, he's been dead for 30 + years anyway.<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: Syd!!!!!!!!!! <3 Shame he's gone. xDCan someone please explain why Syd is so important? He played on 1 1/2 Pink Floyd albums. To me, that would like like Rush fans crying over the loss of John Rutsey. |
Saif 27.02.2007 01:32 |
Boy Thomas Raker wrote: Sorry, Saif, gonna' have to call you on this. To say that Phil Collins is untalented is 100% incorrect. He could be horrible, he could be obnoxious, you may hate his voice and his being, but if you've ever heard him play drums you have no idea what talent is or isn't.He's a good drummer, yes. He filled in for Led Zeppelin in 1985. But he's a really bad songwriter and a big sellout. He's not a bad singer either and I think he's really funny anyway(watch the "I Can't Dance" video). He's extremely annoying... |
Saif 27.02.2007 01:35 |
Al TurHao wrote: As for RW being a good bass player... He's a great musician and a genius in composition, nut he's not THAT good as a bass player. He's good, but no John Deacon. Yes, he has the Money bass riff which is superb, but most of the hard studio parts (like the fret solo in Hey You, like someone mentioned) were played by Gilmour. BTW, did all of you know that Roger Waters said in 1987 something like: "I actually believe that these days there no other musician that writes better songs than me. Well... perhaps Freddie Mercury." ;)Where did you hear that? Source? |
Matias Merçeauroix 27.02.2007 02:11 |
Most people didn't even know Barrett before his death... *rolls eyes* |
Sebastian 27.02.2007 08:00 |
Water's comment about Fred was from 1992 on Mojo (I think), or was it Q Mag? Anyway, the article was named "who on earth does he think he is?" or something to that effect. Very nice interview. I'd love to see a Water's Soapbox, he's certainly grumpier than Dr Wig! Anyway, Roger's IMO even a better songwriter than Freddie, Roger (Taylor), Brian or John, but he's a shitty singer and a "just-normal" bassist. He should stick to songwriting and let his creations be sung and played by others. |
Drummer imense! 27.02.2007 08:16 |
As much as i love them both, i think it is a match mae in HELL. These two are best kept totaly seperae, or before you know we will have a band called 'Roger Amazing Waters featuring Queen'. He was an alright singer once when he was doing the wall shows in the 80's. But at live8 he was totaly shocking, he isn' a bad bassist, some of his stuff is quite difficult. |
The Real Wizard 27.02.2007 11:53 |
Sebastian wrote: Anyway, Roger's IMO even a better songwriter than Freddie, Roger (Taylor), Brian or JohnPrepare to get stoned for that one... ha ha! Saif wrote: He's a good drummer, yes. He filled in for Led Zeppelin in 1985. But he's a really bad songwriter and a big sellout.I see it differently. I see him as covering a lot of ground. Phil Collins did prog in the early 70s with Genesis and moreso with Brand X. He showed his integrity as a writer on A Trick Of The Tail and Wind And Wuthering, as Genesis remained progressive without Peter Gabriel. Then he showed he could write quality pop songs with Genesis and solo from the late 70s until the early 90s. Then he decided to reach outside the limitations of rock and do some adult contemporary and movie stuff. And now he wants to do one more Genesis tour, because he surely misses being in the band (and I'm sure he has to pay off his latest ex-wife, too!). Almost everyone knows a Phil Collins song, and the same goes for Elton John. Not many guys have crossed barriers like these guys have. Tastes aside, you have to admire that. |
john bodega 27.02.2007 11:54 |
"Not many guys have crossed barriers like these guys have." I think he crossed a barrier of good taste when he made S-S-Sudio!!! |
Boy Thomas Raker 27.02.2007 12:25 |
Phil Collins jumped the shark quicker than any solo artist ever. His ballads on his first two albums were pretty heartfelt, and sincere songs. Then when he did 'One more night', he was the schmaltzy ballad king and as his sales went up his writing got worse. Tremendously talented player and writer though, and to step in to a very difficult situation as a singer and pull it off is amazing. Listen to his vocals on 'More fool me' and he's a bit hesitant, and compare them to his work on 'A Trick of the tail.' Huge difference. He still sucked after his 3rd solo album on though. |
~im a fool~ 28.02.2007 20:23 |
are you kidding, roger didnt even play bass for 'money' so he couldnt possibly handle queen songs. but he could write some new kick ass new songs! |
Matias Merçeauroix 28.02.2007 20:56 |
azzadude wrote: We will will leave us kids alloneok, stop it. It's not funny anymore |
john bodega 28.02.2007 21:34 |
"roger didnt even play bass for 'money'" I wasn't in the studio so I can't tell you who's on the record. But Roger Waters played it fine during the Making Of ; so either he spent 30 years learning a pretty easy part... or maybe he could play it after all!! Hehe. |
Sebastian 28.02.2007 23:08 |
Wasn't 'Money' done live? (backing track, I mean). So of course Roger played it. Perhaps you're referring to the version Dave did some time later, where he played bass, keyboards, drums and of course guitar. |
inu-liger 03.03.2007 21:15 |
Sebastian wrote: Wasn't 'Money' done live? (backing track, I mean). So of course Roger played it. Perhaps you're referring to the version Dave did some time later, where he played bass, keyboards, drums and of course guitar.Yes, that latter version was the one he re-recorded by himself (with Dick Parry reprising his sax role) for "A Collection Of Great Dance Songs" in 1981, due to copyright issues with the original. I believe that would make that the only "Pink Floyd" recording during the Roger Waters era that did not feature the other 3 members....or did he do the same thing on Ummagumma? (csp?) (I never listened to that album, so I don't know) "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" had quite a few tracks that did not have Nick Mason on drums (Jim Keltner and Carmine Appice, the latter who has also worked with our own Brian May, played drums on half or most of the songs), and other than "Sorrow", I don't know what other tracks has Richard Wright playing or contributing BV's. |
inu-liger 05.03.2007 01:57 |
Oh btw, I'm also now going to go see The Police at Commonwealth Stadium here in Edmonton on the 2nd of June (a Saturday)! :D (Got a ticket bought for me as a birthday present :) |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 05.03.2007 15:55 |
jeffuk49 wrote: I'd rather have Queen+Mr Blobbyi thought we did? have you seen a pic of roger recently? |