QueenZone discussion #953256

ITSM wrote: I disagree with most of your opinions. I feel that you haven't heard enough to really grade the albums. Some of them have to be heard like 250 times, and then it's really great. And it's those songs witch really are the best! An example for me personally: I had Innuendo for about 12 years and I always hated "Delilah" like you do, but now I think that song is just great. One of the best on the album in fact. But that is of course my opinion... And you should really listen to Queen (1) a great deal of times more! You gave it 2 out of 5, and that's a serious low score for that album. It's a masterpiece.. (I think).

Zebonka12 wrote: First of all, I wouldn't lend much credence to a 'music review' that uses the word "greatness". "Warmed up leftovers and it sounds that way too." I think its unfortunate you feel that way about A Winter's Tale, it's a very nice song. I think its also a bit sad that Mother Love gets lumped in with warmed up leftovers ... "A kind of magic * Strongest song: None Weakest song: all of them" Come on!! If you can't at least *chuckle* at Princes of the Universe, you're just missing out. As for Who Wants to Live Forever - I never liked the live version (the sped up solo just annoyed me, too much John Deacon) but that songs great. The rest of your reviews aren't anything new, so I feel you'd probably find a bunch of people who agree with you.

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Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: Because we are Queen fans, our first instinct is to stand up for Queen, and tell Louvox that he's out of his mind. However, when we take our personal blinders off and assess Queen's music on an innovative, creative, and commercial level, I generally agree with Louvox's reviews. He is right on the money. Queen found their sound by ANATO, and continued to be an innovative force in rock music with their next two albums. They had their heyday in the US with the commercial sound of The Game. While songs like Las Palabras de Amor, Radio Ga Ga, Hammer To Fall, Princes Of The Universe, The Miracle, Breakthru, and Scandal are great, Queen essentially rehashed their old ideas and did what they could to keep up with the pop culture of the 80s. Indeed they found much success in many parts of the world. They returned to form for Innuendo, but perhaps a bit too late, as they surely lost many fans in the 80s, especially in North America. MIH, as much as I love it and have emotional connection to it, is indeed a mix of leftovers when it comes down to it. The live albums are pretty good, but nothing groundbreaking like Frampton Comes Alive, LZ's How The West Was Won, or The Who's Live At Leeds. When introducing someone to Queen albums, it's ANATO, ADATR, NOTW, and Innuendo that I recommend first. If they like all those, I then recommend a few of the other stronger ones, like SHA, Jazz, or The Miracle, because I'm a Queen fan, but it doesn't come near those four.

ITSM wrote: I disagree with most of your opinions. I feel that you haven't heard enough to really grade the albums. Some of them have to be heard like 250 times, and then it's really great. And it's those songs witch really are the best! An example for me personally: I had Innuendo for about 12 years and I always hated "Delilah" like you do, but now I think that song is just great. One of the best on the album in fact. But that is of course my opinion... And you should really listen to Queen (1) a great deal of times more! You gave it 2 out of 5, and that's a serious low score for that album. It's a masterpiece.. (I think).

Asterik wrote: Again it's the typical "I hate anything eighties" attitude that I find hard to understand.Ok, they probably didn't scale their earlier heights but they kept their audience by combining contemparory trends with their old anthemic touch- no better is that demonstrated on the magnificent Radio Ga Ga. People have to move on, Louvox, and Queen did so sucessfully. What are you advcating here; Freddie in a catsuit aged 40 with long hair and painted finger nails? Do you propose Queen should just have ignored synthesisers and become an irrelevant parody of themselves? Do you propose that a la Staus Quo they should have just banged out rock n roll without trying any dance styles too? I agree with you that Innuendo was a return to form but to castigate the eighties as synth mush is wrong. Queen never became anything like Foreigner or any of that AOR synth rock trash. For the most part, even on AKOM, synths sounded subtle, augmenting their music. I respect your view but I can't agree with it

maxpower wrote: I have to agree with the opinion of Jazz, no prescence of roy thomas baker, but too say no good songs on magic especially who wants to live forever, is wrong for me

<font color=maroon>bitesthedust wrote: There are good and bad points amongst Hot Space/The Works/A Kind Of Magic/The Miracle albums - but as a complete work, I feel Queen hit their 80s peak with The Game, and peaked in America as a whole with that record. The next (and last) classic album didn't materialise until Innuendo eleven years later. The 80s were obviously a difficult period in some ways - less material recorded, no American tours after 1982 and many individual solo projects. In terms of their sound, I think that is simply illustrated by looking at the lack of heavier songs produced over the 6 albums (listed below)... Need Your Loving Tonight Battle Theme/The Hero Put Out The Fire Tear It Up Hammer To Fall Princes Of The Universe I Want It All Looking at the discography as a whole, there was a discussion here a while back as to whether there is such a thing as a "perfect" Queen album. I don't think there is from start to finish, but Sheer Heart Attack is still their best work for me.