| theCro 23.01.2007 16:48 |
It's all big lie if you ask me, or misundersanding?... I've been listening to most of the Freddie's interviews, audio and video ones, in all possible quality... and the thing is he NEVER said ANYTHING about Paul Rodgers, not even a WORD! So Brian and Roger are now saying he was one of Freddie's "hero" and "all time best singer"... what do you have to say about this? |
| user name 23.01.2007 16:52 |
I have to say that you can't tell everything about a person merely from interviews. I think being life-long friends and colleagues holds more water, actually, don't you? |
| FredRICE 23.01.2007 16:56 |
he never mentioned that indeed. i never read it anywhere in freddies book in his own words..interviews or watherver its a lie just to promote Paul rogers i believe thecro...I agree |
| SomebodyWhoLoves 23.01.2007 16:56 |
musicman, I think you're wrong here. Brian and Roger are businesmen, and clearly, they are fibbing a bit here. Clearly, they only said this to justify hiring Paul Rogers in the first place. |
| FredRICE 23.01.2007 16:58 |
trueeeeee!!!! and surely freddie was a fan of Robbie williams too.....yeah right... |
| Rompez 23.01.2007 17:37 |
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| Rompez 23.01.2007 17:38 |
Actually it was Rodger who said that Paul was great singer back in the 70's. There was some TV quiz show with Rodger as a guest. He had to guess the singer of the song. And he answered something like: "of course, it is great... GREAT Paul Rodgers!" His face was shining. There is a clip from that show somewhere on the Youtube. Rodger is not Freddie but anyway this story tells us a lot, does it? And speaking about Free's influence on Queen. Listen to It's Late and you will feel it. |
| deleted user 23.01.2007 17:46 |
I don't care if he was his hero or not. |
| August R. 23.01.2007 17:57 |
Rompez wrote: Actually it was Rodger who said that Paul was great singer back in the 70's. There was some TV quiz show with Rodger as a guest. He had to guess the singer of the song. And he answered something like: "of course, it is great... GREAT Paul Rodgers!" His face was shining. There is a clip from that show somewhere on the Youtube. Rodger is not Freddie but anyway this story tells us a lot, does it? And speaking about Free's influence on Queen. Listen to It's Late and you will feel it.Who the hell is this Rodger-person and what's he got to do with Queen?!? |
| claudiox 23.01.2007 18:02 |
Just to pay my tribute, I tell you, I think there's nothing strange about Rog&Bri comments 'bout Paul. Q+PR it's merely a new collaboration wich means a unexpected occasion for younger fans (like me) to hear the awesome queen sound live on today. Queen had surely more and more success than PR, Free, BadCompany, etc. So it's possible that Freddie or anyone from queen quite appreciated the (anyway) talented Paul voice and performances. Obiously Roger and Brian used to promote Paul, but there's nothing wrong in it. bye Cla |
| 7 seas of Rhye 23.01.2007 18:05 |
Why would Paul be Freddie's hero? Freddie was a million times better than him in every way! |
| Borhap80 23.01.2007 18:08 |
It's complete bullshit to say that Brian and Roger are using this to promote Paul Rodgers. They lived, played and experienced all that is Queen - together with Freddie. Of course they would know if Freddie respected Paul Rodger. I do also find it likely that he in fact respected Rodgers a lot.... My point is that it's stupid to say that Brian and Roger are just doing it for justification of the new breed of Queen..... We wouldnt know - they do!! |
| FriedChicken 23.01.2007 18:36 |
I also never heard Freddie say that he wrote Delilah, I never heard him say that John Lennon was a hero of him. Why won't you believe 2 friends, who knew him best for almost 25 years |
| Back2TheLight 23.01.2007 18:43 |
I don't think there was ever mention of Paul being a hero of Freddie's...I think he thought of Paul as a good singer probably, but probably nothing more than that. |
| skiqueen 23.01.2007 19:07 |
freddie was known to be very private, and he didnt have that many interviews. for instance, he liked indian food, but he never really said anything about it. the only people who knew such personal info was peter and the band. so dont base freddies interests on what he said in interviews, because there might be tons of things that he liked but never said anything about them to the public. and as previously stated, i dont care whether freddie liked paul or not. what difference does it make? |
| Dan C. 23.01.2007 19:13 |
<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: I have to say that you can't tell everything about a person merely from interviews. I think being life-long friends and colleagues holds more water, actually, don't you?Thank you, thank you, thank you. |
| Styx 23.01.2007 19:17 |
Sad thing is Roger and Brian can say anything and some will believe it. True they were bandmates but that doesn't mean they know everything about him. It seems like they only lie thesedays...Kudos to 'ol Johnny! The only member i respect. |
| Mr Faron Hyte 23.01.2007 19:33 |
The topic starter is under the obvious misconception that Freddie Mercury never said anything that he didn't repeat in an interview. Given Freddie's well-known dislike of the press, I dare say there was an avalanche of things he didn't say during interviews. Another repetetive topic started by a member of the Cult of Fred. Freddie's memory and reputation does not need defending by a bunch of hysterical bedwetting teenagers with internet access. |
| teleman 23.01.2007 19:47 |
August R. wrote: Who the hell is this Rodger-person and what's he got to do with Queen?!?A good friend of Paul Rogers? LOL Who knows what Freddie thought of Paul Rodgers? Free were playing major festivals before Queen got up and running. Freddie could easily have admired the fact that a young singer like Paul Rodgers was doing that at the time when Freddie was still just dreaming of it. Or possibly he couldn't have cared less. Who cares? I sure as hell don't but for people like the original poster, if you don't believe Brian and Roger that's your perogative but calling a person a liar requires proof and there is a possibility, however remote, that Freddie did have some awareness/admiration/respect/whatever toward Paul Rodgers. |
| Knute 23.01.2007 20:11 |
I laugh my ass off at these people who think they know Freddie's likes and dislikes because they never read it in a interview..LOL and then they have the gall to call lifetime friends of his(and members of their favorite band, supposedly)liars. Never mind the fact that Freddie loathed interviews, was a very private person, and didn't grant many interviews. What was Freddie's favorite cereal? Oh gee, I guess he didn't eat cereal because I never read that he did in an interview. The bottome line is that any aspiring British vocalist worth his salt in the early seventies would have acknowledged Paul as one of the best in the biz. That's a fucking fact. Live with it. |
| Dan C. 23.01.2007 20:18 |
Knute wrote: What was Freddie's favorite cereal? Oh gee, I guess he didn't eat cereal because I never read that he did in an interview.Ha! That was great! |
| user name 23.01.2007 20:22 |
SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: musicman, I think you're wrong here. Brian and Roger are businesmen, and clearly, they are fibbing a bit here. Clearly, they only said this to justify hiring Paul Rogers in the first place.See, you're making the argument, "It's possible, therefore it's true." Did you know that that is a fallacious argument? Yeah, it is. Too bad. Styx wrote: Sad thing is Roger and Brian can say anything and some will believe it. True they were bandmates but that doesn't mean they know everything about him. It seems like they only lie thesedays...Kudos to 'ol Johnny! The only member i respect.Apparently you have examples where Roger and Brian are lying and you can prove it? |
| kenny8 23.01.2007 20:29 |
I don't care what Freddie may have said about Rodgers. What's more telling, and on record, is Brian & Roger saying "without Freddie, there isn't a band called Queen" I can't believe people here are willing to overlook Freddie's remarkable vocal arrangements as part of the Queen sound. Sadly, to carry on the Queen name any further than the recent nostalgia tour will be seen as a sad footnote to the bands legacy. |
| Lester Burnham 23.01.2007 20:41 |
Hehe oh theCro, you're such a fool :) |
| Smitty 23.01.2007 20:48 |
Mr Faron Hyte wrote: Another repetetive topic started by a member of the Cult of Fred. Freddie's memory and reputation does not need defending by a bunch of hysterical bedwetting teenagers with internet access.That is the second-best burn I have ever heard in my life. kenny8 wrote: What's more telling, and on record, is Brian & Roger saying "without Freddie, there isn't a band called Queen"Will you shut the fuck up with that quote?! We KNOW what they said, okay dumbass? It is possible to change your mind in the course of fifteen years. |
| QueenTaylor 23.01.2007 21:05 |
you tell em..SMITTY!!! woo hooo |
| kenny8 23.01.2007 21:14 |
<b><font color=gold>SMI<font color=1>TTY wrote: Will you shut the fuck up with that quote?! We KNOW what they said, okay dumbass? It is possible to change your mind in the course of fifteen years.Of course, respect only has a limited lifespan |
| blerp 23.01.2007 21:16 |
ahh SHUDDUP! :) |
| bas asselbergs 23.01.2007 21:17 |
When Queen wasn't even there, Paul Rodgers was already a star, and all queenies played his songs in the first bands they were in...he surely inspired them all, and although nobody may have captured Freddies words on the subject, i am sure he is very very happy with Paul when he looks down on Bri and Rog and what they are doing... It isn't really important...the reality is that Q+PR are working on new material, and i can't wait to see what they'll come up with...i do hope they will produce a new lighting-rig for us, as it wouldn't be that exciting to see the same stageact again...as Queen always used to change theirs with every new tour, i think Bri and Rog should come up with something brandnew and spectaculair over their heads... I did love the lights they had...but we've seen that now...so..IF they read this...: design something spectacular again! A stage Freddie would have loved to prance around on....make it Queen-worthy! |
| Saif 23.01.2007 21:39 |
Who cares if Paul Rodgers was Freddie's hero? lmao, even if they hired Robert Plant instead of Paul Rodgers, people would be upset. And Robert Plant WAS a hero of Freddie's. Actually, later Freddie became Plant's hero, but whatever. :P Paul Rodgers is a great vocalist, IMO. |
| QueenTaylor 23.01.2007 22:16 |
Saif wrote: Who cares if Paul Rodgers was Freddie's hero? lmao, even if they hired Robert Plant instead of Paul Rodgers, people would be upset. And Robert Plant WAS a hero of Freddie's. Actually, later Freddie became Plant's hero, but whatever. :P Paul Rodgers is a great vocalist, IMO.I'd be much happier if they hired Robert Plant!! |
| iron eagle 23.01.2007 22:27 |
i remember it like yesterday Freddie took an extra day after the Charlotte show we met up at the bar and went back to my place bliss i tell you....but thats another story we were laying around in bed...smoking cigs and drinking some chilled vodka and he suddenly leaps up i need music he said.... he went through my stash-- saw all the stuff...graoned when he saw Flash.... i said i know i know not really a Queen album.... out he pulls Bad Company-- Burnin Sky... on the turntable it goes..... listen listen dear this voice i tell you is incredible... i said but love so is yours bullocks he retorted back im good and we have a good band but this rodgers fellow he can sing.... oh i could give a toss who is and who is not better right now get your arse back in this bed you have to leave soon bliss i tell you bliss |
| Sebastian 23.01.2007 22:53 |
The fact Freddie never mentioned Paul in interviews doesn't exclude the possibility that he COULD HAVE admired him (and Paul's a great singer so he probably did). BUT the fact that whenever Freddie was asked about his favourite singers he answered Liza, Aretha, Montserrat and (within rock/pop) Robert Plant and George Michael clearly demonstrates that Paul was NOT his favourite. So Roger's and Brian's claims aren't neccesarily a lie, but sure enough they're an exaggeration. But this isn't the first nor the last time somebody puts words on a dead person's mouth. |
| john bodega 23.01.2007 23:47 |
I'd like to see some of the people in this thread get into a fight with Winnebago Man. God it'd be sweet. |
| Crezchi 23.01.2007 23:55 |
For god's sake, who gives a flying fuck? Who cares if PR was or wasn't Freddie's hero? I don't, why do you have to dig up old ass threads and post new but not new shit about the topics? Cro, get a fucking life. This is worse than the whole GB charade. |
| deleted user 24.01.2007 00:38 |
Crezchi wrote: For god's sake, who gives a flying fuck? Who cares if PR was or wasn't Freddie's hero? I don't, why do you have to dig up old ass threads and post new but not new shit about the topics? Cro, get a fucking life. This is worse than the whole GB charade.Thank you! :DDD FINALLY. |
| kenny8 24.01.2007 01:40 |
Crezchi wrote: For god's sake, who gives a flying fuck? Who cares if PR was or wasn't Freddie's hero? I don't, why do you have to dig up old ass threads and post new but not new shit about the topics? Cro, get a fucking life. This is worse than the whole GB charade.Pathetic, says he doesn't care, yet can't help wading in to say so. If you don't like "old ass" threads you don't have to go in them jackass |
| kenny8 24.01.2007 01:47 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I'd like to see some of the people in this thread get into a fight with Winnebago Man. God it'd be sweet.I'd like to see you post something interesting, either here or on your self absorbed blog page. God, it'd be sweet. |
| August R. 24.01.2007 03:45 |
7 seas of Rhye wrote: Why would Paul be Freddie's hero? Freddie was a million times better than him in every way!Well, Hank Marvin was Brian's hero, and Brian is million times better and far more interesting than Mr. Marvin. So there you go. Young musicians need their heros in order to get better, and in time, exceed their heros (in some cases). |
| YourValentine 24.01.2007 05:38 |
Such statements should not be taken so seriously. It's called "publicity" or "marketing". When Brian and Roger teamed up with Paul Rodgers it was obvious that many fans would have a problem with the mere fact that someone else was "taking Freddie's place". The statement that Freddie admired Paul Rodgers was meant to pacify the fans, that's all. It would have been stupid to say "Freddie would hate to see Paul Rodgers fronting us" - who in his right mind would do that? It's the same when they are asked about other artists and say how much they admire them - it's just social talk. Music Man wrote: "Apparently you have examples where Roger and Brian are lying and you can prove it?" Yes, a lot in fact. Whenever they were asked about touring and/or Freddie's health between 1989 and 1991. It's not uncommon that people lie if it is better for themselves, their business or their friends. How much truth does a celebrity owe the public, anyway? |
| FredRICE 24.01.2007 05:54 |
FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: I also never heard Freddie say that he wrote Delilah, I never heard him say that John Lennon was a hero of him. Why won't you believe 2 friends, who knew him best for almost 25 yearsi have read that he said john lennon was his hero..something about that in the book Freddie mercury in his own words |
| Sebastian 24.01.2007 06:20 |
What about "Lennon is a genius" lyric in 'Life Is Real'? |
| Snefru 24.01.2007 06:27 |
I don't know who was Freddie's favourite, but I've read he listen to Jimi Hendrix + others... All I can say, is when Ian Gilland quit DEEP PURPLE back in 1973, their FIRST wanted replasement for DP was PAUL RODGERS. But at this time he was in BAD COMPANY. So therfor David... Anyway, I saw 2 QUEEN + PR concerts in 05. Let's hope they make a REALLY GOOD album, and I might which to see them again. New concert on the 'home cdr' marked VANCOUVER Dec. 78. GREAT SHOW. |
| FriedChicken 24.01.2007 06:28 |
Hitler also was a genius, but that doesn't mean i'm a fan of what he did, or that I approve his acts |
| Rompez 24.01.2007 06:29 |
August R. wrote:My bad. Everything could happen if you try to write a message in the foreign language at 3 AM in the morning. LOL Sorry Roger!Rompez wrote: Actually it was Rodger who said that Paul was great singer back in the 70's. There was some TV quiz show with Rodger as a guest. He had to guess the singer of the song. And he answered something like: "of course, it is great... GREAT Paul Rodgers!" His face was shining. There is a clip from that show somewhere on the Youtube. Rodger is not Freddie but anyway this story tells us a lot, does it? And speaking about Free's influence on Queen. Listen to It's Late and you will feel it.Who the hell is this Rodger-person and what's he got to do with Queen?!? |
| thomasquinn 32989 24.01.2007 08:15 |
theCro wrote: It's all big lie if you ask me, or misundersanding?... I've been listening to most of the Freddie's interviews, audio and video ones, in all possible quality... and the thing is he NEVER said ANYTHING about Paul Rodgers, not even a WORD! So Brian and Roger are now saying he was one of Freddie's "hero" and "all time best singer"... what do you have to say about this?I have only one thing to say about this: if you were a historian, you'd be shot, and rightly so. Interviews only present a very marginal, highly selective part of a person. In fact, there is more to be learned from what ISN'T said than from what IS. Mercury's musical influences were undoubtedly more varied than he ever expressed in interviews (unless you wish to tell me only about a dozen musicians influenced the guy, in which case I'd send you to the funny farm straight away), thus your 'research' is of no value whatsoever. |
| john bodega 24.01.2007 08:31 |
kenny8 wrote:Self absorbed? Duh - it's about me! Who else am I going to write about, you numpty?Zebonka12 wrote: I'd like to see some of the people in this thread get into a fight with Winnebago Man. God it'd be sweet.I'd like to see you post something interesting, either here or on your self absorbed blog page. God, it'd be sweet. It's so much fun having kenny8 for a fan. |
| coops 24.01.2007 09:55 |
I would guess Freddie said a lot of things to Brian, Roger, and John that were not captured on tape or video. |
| sexmachine 24.01.2007 09:59 |
YourValentine wrote: Music Man wrote: "Apparently you have examples where Roger and Brian are lying and you can prove it?" Yes, a lot in fact. Whenever they were asked about touring and/or Freddie's health between 1989 and 1991. It's not uncommon that people lie if it is better for themselves, their business or their friends. How much truth does a celebrity owe the public, anyway?i can not understand how a honourable man and great singer like paul rodgers ( i have heared that he was even a hero for Freddie mercurie) can make music together with these....these LIARS!! |
| sexmachine 24.01.2007 10:00 |
FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote: Hitler also was a genius, but that doesn't mean i'm a fan of what he did, or that I approve his actsare you allready drunk in the afternoon??? |
| The Real Wizard 24.01.2007 11:06 |
Knute wrote: I laugh my ass off at these people who think they know Freddie's likes and dislikes because they never read it in a interview..LOL and then they have the gall to call lifetime friends of his(and members of their favorite band, supposedly)liars. Never mind the fact that Freddie loathed interviews, was a very private person, and didn't grant many interviews. What was Freddie's favorite cereal? Oh gee, I guess he didn't eat cereal because I never read that he did in an interview. The bottome line is that any aspiring British vocalist worth his salt in the early seventies would have acknowledged Paul as one of the best in the biz. That's a fucking fact. Live with it.Fantastic post. I also raise an eyebrow or two towards the self-proclaimed Freddie "experts" out there who have memorized his interviews and quotes from books. azzadude wrote:But that doesn't count, because Freddie didn't confirm it in an interview.iron eagle wrote: i remember it like yesterday .... bliss i tell you blissThats right,,, I remember that, Roger told me thats what Freddie said... |
| FRANCISCO J ARELLANO 24.01.2007 11:14 |
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| stringsrmagicalzey 24.01.2007 11:16 |
theCro wrote: It's all big lie if you ask me, or misundersanding?... I've been listening to most of the Freddie's interviews, audio and video ones, in all possible quality... and the thing is he NEVER said ANYTHING about Paul Rodgers, not even a WORD! So Brian and Roger are now saying he was one of Freddie's "hero" and "all time best singer"... what do you have to say about this?Hi, Didn't they? ... Well , if they never ever brought this up in the interviews & articles we've read , then Brian & Roger might have asked Paul to join them just because there was this special chemistry ,(they know & we know there will not be another singer who resembles "Freddie") and because they are at a new stage,Brian & Roger are two magnificent creative musicians who want to keep up rocking , and I'm glad they they are willing to try something different (in spite of the fact that many of us miss Freddie quite a lot).We can just take it or leave, that's all. I do respect Brian & Roger's decisions & their freedom as musicians & artists to do what is best for them. Regards, |
| deleted user 24.01.2007 12:05 |
Oh well never mind theCro, better luck next time eh?:P Still stop living in the past...there are a lot of people who don't like the idea of Queen without Freddie, with the arguably most recognisable feature (voice duh) but Brian and Roger also contributed a HUGE amount to Queen, hell their most recognisable anthem is a Brian song! They've even been described as 'legendary' in the worlds of guitarists and drummers, still that's beside the point. Anyway what I'm trying to say is that they are all very talented musicians in their own right, they both also have every right to use the name Queen in their music which if they want to continue making is just fine! If you have such a problem with Q+PR I have a solution for you...1)don't go to their concerts 2)don't buy their new work! There. Now that's sorted let's all go be happy nerds again. And to all those with anger-mangement issues just remember this: Don't act all hardcore over the keyboard, fighting online is just like racing in the Special Olympics...who can finish?? |
| Sebastian 24.01.2007 12:16 |
If they don't wanna live in the past then they should use a name created by them and not by a dead person. And change the logo on the drums, because that's from the past too. |
| ermin 24.01.2007 12:23 |
As usual, I'm with Sebastian on this. If they wanted not to live in the past, they should've created a new name. To those who say that they did add PR to their name I say: for sake of accuracy, call it Half Queen + PR. It's either a new name or Half Queen + PR. Using Queen + PR is misleading. |
| FredRICE 24.01.2007 12:27 |
ermin wrote: As usual, I'm with Sebastian on this. If they wanted not to live in the past, they should've created a new name. To those who say that they did add PR to their name I say: for sake of accuracy, call it Half Queen + PR. It's either a new name or Half Queen + PR. Using Queen + PR is misleading.indeed. stupid people who dont know anything about them might think they are gonna see freddie and john too....loop! its even on the .....sleeve? whatever...of the greatest hits 2 Queen are Freddie Mercury, Brian May, Roger Taylor and John deacon. |
| Sharon G.Queen Fan 24.01.2007 13:31 |
Queen is Freddie,John,Brian, and Roger. Paul R. is NOT a member of Queen and will never be. |
| QueenTaylor 24.01.2007 14:39 |
Sharon G.Queen Fan wrote: Queen is Freddie,John,Brian, and Roger. Paul R. is NOT a member of Queen and will never be.I 100% agree!!!! |
| jasen101 24.01.2007 14:53 |
That's why it's called "Queen plus Paul Rodgers"! duh! |
| jasen101 24.01.2007 14:57 |
By the way...Brian and Roger can still decide what they want to do with the name Queen...and I think that they've done a lot of good with it since Freddie's death! |
| QueenTaylor 24.01.2007 15:02 |
jasen101 wrote: By the way...Brian and Roger can still decide what they want to do with the name Queen...and I think that they've done a lot of good with it since Freddie's death!Yes, but Paul doesn't even touch what Freddie can do. Not saying I want another Freddie, but Paul can't sing Queen at all. |
| Hayek Eva 24.01.2007 16:19 |
Hi everybody, Yes, PR's voice is far from FREDDIE's vocal range,(nobody has that!!!) :) But, I think we all can agree, Brian and Roger are genial musicians, it would be a great pity to not enjoy their talent.They began to work again(make nostalgia tours),like Queen,it was like a resuorrection of their former activity for the peoples of the young generation. Maybe many of them,would know more less of the original Queen. Sorry, my English is not on the top, but I hope you understand what I mean. Best wishes for all. |
| dobo 24.01.2007 16:24 |
for me its the other way round because i'd heard about paul rodgers and his music before i'd heard of queen and now i'm happy that my fave singer of all time is now involved with queen |
| theCro 24.01.2007 18:20 |
Dr. Perry Cox wrote: Hehe oh theCro, you're such a fool :)no, i'm not the kind of person you are, i'm just saying facts that there is no audio or video where Freddie said that! I'm not telling he DIDNT actually said that, i'm just telling that there is no audio or video where Freddie said that!that's all i said! get a life---please |
| theCro 24.01.2007 18:32 |
<font color=brianJM>RollingBowieQueen wrote: Oh well never mind theCro, better luck next time eh?:P Still stop living in the past...there are a lot of people who don't like the idea of Queen without Freddie, with the arguably most recognisable feature (voice duh) but Brian and Roger also contributed a HUGE amount to Queen, hell their most recognisable anthem is a Brian song! They've even been described as 'legendary' in the worlds of guitarists and drummers, still that's beside the point. Anyway what I'm trying to say is that they are all very talented musicians in their own right, they both also have every right to use the name Queen in their music which if they want to continue making is just fine! If you have such a problem with Q+PR I have a solution for you...1)don't go to their concerts 2)don't buy their new work! There. Now that's sorted let's all go be happy nerds again. And to all those with anger-mangement issues just remember this: Don't act all hardcore over the keyboard, fighting online is just like racing in the Special Olympics...who can finish??i never said i dont support Q+PR! I support them, of course i do! I love to watch DVD i've bought and i am really pleased that there is finally some new material coming soon! Where did you get this information that i dont support Q+PR? ... |
| deleted user 24.01.2007 18:46 |
Mr Faron Hyte wrote: The topic starter is under the obvious misconception that Freddie Mercury never said anything that he didn't repeat in an interview. Given Freddie's well-known dislike of the press, I dare say there was an avalanche of things he didn't say during interviews. Another repetetive topic started by a member of the Cult of Fred. Freddie's memory and reputation does not need defending by a bunch of hysterical bedwetting teenagers with internet access.I highly doubt that if Paul Rodgers was his "hero", he would never even mention him in an interview. I haven't heard very many of Freddie's interviews, but I can't even possibly imagine how many times people must've asked him who his favorite singers were. And I imagine that if this question was asked, he would at least mention his "hero". |
| englishyob 24.01.2007 18:52 |
mangos |
| kenny8 24.01.2007 20:02 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It's so much fun having kenny8 for a fan.If by fan you mean someone who's about to teach you a lesson, then yes I'm your biggest fan. A Certificate in music from TAFE? Wow |
| blerp 24.01.2007 20:43 |
bitch bitch bitch. |
| Lester Burnham 24.01.2007 20:46 |
theCro wrote: Where did you get this information that i dont support Q+PR? ...I read it in an interview. |
| The Real Wizard 24.01.2007 21:02 |
Sharon G.Queen Fan wrote: Queen is Freddie,John,Brian, and Roger. Paul R. is NOT a member of Queen and will never be.Yes, your highness. And I guess Ronnie Wood can't be in the Stones, Ronnie James Dio can't be in Black Sabbath, and Brian Johnson can't be in AC/DC. Hayek Eva wrote: Yes, PR's voice is far from FREDDIE's vocal range,(nobody has that!!!)100% untrue. Plenty of singers have a better range than Freddie. Over the past two years, Paul has proven himself to be a far more consistent singer than Freddie was. Paul has shown he has a better vocal range from night to night in his mid-50s than Freddie ever did in his prime. If you disagree, then please, dispute this with facts. This should get interesting. :) |
| QueenTaylor 24.01.2007 21:40 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:Nobody has Freddie's range! He had an octive of 8 for gods sake!!!!!Sharon G.Queen Fan wrote: Queen is Freddie,John,Brian, and Roger. Paul R. is NOT a member of Queen and will never be.Yes, your highness. And I guess Ronnie Wood can't be in the Stones, Ronnie James Dio can't be in Black Sabbath, and Brian Johnson can't be in AC/DC.Hayek Eva wrote: Yes, PR's voice is far from FREDDIE's vocal range,(nobody has that!!!)100% untrue. Plenty of singers have a better range than Freddie. Over the past two years, Paul has proven himself to be a far more consistent singer than Freddie was. Paul has shown he has a better vocal range from night to night in his mid-50s than Freddie ever did in his prime. If you disagree, then please, dispute this with facts. This should get interesting. :) |
| john bodega 24.01.2007 21:51 |
"If by fan you mean someone who's about to teach you a lesson, then yes I'm your biggest fan." Scaaaaaaaaaaary. "A Certificate in music from TAFE? Wow" If by Wow you mean I get to spend 11 months doing something I really love with frickin' awesome lecturers... Fuck! You're right to be impressed! I'm still waiting for my lesson, you yokel :) "Nobody has Freddie's range! He had an octive of 8 for gods sake!!!!!" No he didn't. Do you know what an octave is? |
| Lester Burnham 24.01.2007 21:54 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "Nobody has Freddie's range! He had an octive of 8 for gods sake!!!!!" No he didn't. Do you know what an octave is?Hahaha! Seriously -- the world record for greatest range is six octaves by a fellow named Tim Storms (link. Maybe Freddie had a half-octave range of 8... |
| Saif 24.01.2007 22:04 |
Guys, give it a fucking rest. Before judging Paul Rodgers, listen to his Queen performances. They're not perfect, but if you say they're bad, that's like saying Axl Rose and Elton John's version of "Bohemian Rhapsody" sucked in the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert. And go listen to some "Bad Company" songs, Paul Rodgers has a good voice. One of their good songs is "Bad Company". Hayek Eva, your statement is wrong and unfounded, OR you don't know what vocal range means. The only rock singers with a vocal range close to Freddie were Elvis Presley. Robert Plant might be close but his vocal range was never measured. |
| john bodega 24.01.2007 22:14 |
"They're not perfect, but if you say they're bad, that's like saying Axl Rose and Elton John's version of "Bohemian Rhapsody" sucked in the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert." They *were* bad. I had to turn that bloody thing off! |
| QueenTaylor 24.01.2007 22:18 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "If by fan you mean someone who's about to teach you a lesson, then yes I'm your biggest fan." Scaaaaaaaaaaary. "A Certificate in music from TAFE? Wow" If by Wow you mean I get to spend 11 months doing something I really love with frickin' awesome lecturers... Fuck! You're right to be impressed! I'm still waiting for my lesson, you yokel :) "Nobody has Freddie's range! He had an octive of 8 for gods sake!!!!!" No he didn't. Do you know what an octave is?Yeah I know exactly what an octave is dumb ass!! I know for a fact he had an octave of 8. I read it!!! |
| deleted user 24.01.2007 22:19 |
englishyob wrote: mangosGreat big, ripe ones. No, to be honest, I prefer a firm banana. taylormad101 wrote: Yeah I know exactly what an octave is dumb ass!! I know for a fact he had an octave of 8. I read it!!!You fill me with confidence that I will be accepted into the University music programme... An octave is a series of EIGHT tones - thus the OCTave. Freddie did not go into a frequency so low that the human ears could not hear it. He didn't even go sub-basso range. His range, according to one site was from the F almost TWO octaves below middle C - and the highest falsetto only a tone over the C TWO octaves above Middle C. He had TWO OCTAVES and seven (almost THREE) in chest and head voice. The additional range was falsetto. Of course, the highest notes were most likely one-offs. You couldn't count on those - and he certainly didn't use them every day. My word, learn a TINY BIT about music. |
| QueenTaylor 24.01.2007 22:29 |
<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:ok whatever smart ass... iknow you think you know it all but you dont...Freddie did opera..believe he has an octave of 8englishyob wrote: mangosGreat big, ripe ones. No, to be honest, I prefer a firm banana.taylormad101 wrote: Yeah I know exactly what an octave is dumb ass!! I know for a fact he had an octave of 8. I read it!!!You fill me with confidence that I will be accepted into the University music programme... An octave is a series of EIGHT tones - thus the OCTave. Freddie did not go into a frequency so low that the human ears could not hear it. He didn't even go sub-basso range. His range, according to one site was from the F almost TWO octaves below middle C - and the highest falsetto only a tone over the C TWO octaves above Middle C. He had TWO OCTAVES and seven (almost THREE) in chest and head voice. The additional range was falsetto. |
| john bodega 24.01.2007 22:30 |
"Yeah I know exactly what an octave is dumb ass!! I know for a fact he had an octave of 8. I read it!!!" Do you believe everything you read? I hate to shatter some foundations of your being here, but... you know that Easter Bunny guy? The one that always used to give you eggs as a child? He doesn't exist. I know - it's shocking. But that's not all I have to tell you. You know Santa? Yeah. Him too. It was a guy in a suit. If there's any other fallacies you've believed in *purely* because someone sounded sincere when they said/wrote then, Please let me know! |
| Lester Burnham 24.01.2007 22:34 |
taylormad101 wrote: ok whatever smart ass... iknow you think you know it all but you dont...Freddie did opera..believe he has an octave of 8Soooooo.... what I concluded from this is that, because Freddie "did" opera, all opera singers have an 8-octave range............ I don't think Montserrat Caballe has an 8-octave range. In fact, no one does. Try reading that article I provided again for world record holders of the greatest octave range. (Hint: it wasn't Freddie) |
| deleted user 24.01.2007 22:37 |
taylormad101 wrote: ok whatever smart ass... iknow you think you know it all but you dont...Freddie did opera..believe he has an octave of 8Honey-pie, I'm looking to go into OPERA as a career... GUESS WHAT ! An acceptable range for an opera singer is... about TWO OCTAVES ! HOLY SHIT ! You can get people with bigger ranges, sure. But you don't fucking well need eight octaves to do opera. Do you listen to opera ? If you did, you would notice that no one is singing eight bloody octaves. |
| The Real Wizard 25.01.2007 01:19 |
*sits back with popcorn, and watches* |
| Crezchi 25.01.2007 02:03 |
taylormad101 wrote:Actually you are the smartass, Freddie did not have an 8 octave voice. Mariah Carey's was a 6 octave before she went psycho, you need to be more educated on music. And don't even try to argue with others who know their shit, i know music, i have been playing multiple instruments since i was 7 years old and have attended Berkley, and have sang in Quartets since the age of 10 and i have also been a vocal coach, and let's see, hmmm, and have had music training since the age of 5 when i started piano. Honestly i have a 6 Octave voice, and i know that our dear Freddie did not have an 8 octave voice. Doesn't make him better or worse of a singer, you don't have to have more octaves to be an awesome singer. :) Do i really need to say more? The record (i think) was for a 9 Octave and that was just broken recently. Get a book on the Human voice and study it before calling someone a smartass or a know it all. Why must you be so unwilling to gain knowledge instead of just sitting back and listening to people who know and quit relying on books and articles. Best of luck.<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:ok whatever smart ass... iknow you think you know it all but you dont...Freddie did opera..believe he has an octave of 8englishyob wrote: mangosGreat big, ripe ones. No, to be honest, I prefer a firm banana.taylormad101 wrote: Yeah I know exactly what an octave is dumb ass!! I know for a fact he had an octave of 8. I read it!!!You fill me with confidence that I will be accepted into the University music programme... An octave is a series of EIGHT tones - thus the OCTave. Freddie did not go into a frequency so low that the human ears could not hear it. He didn't even go sub-basso range. His range, according to one site was from the F almost TWO octaves below middle C - and the highest falsetto only a tone over the C TWO octaves above Middle C. He had TWO OCTAVES and seven (almost THREE) in chest and head voice. The additional range was falsetto. |
| Crezchi 25.01.2007 02:06 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: *sits back with popcorn, and watches*LOL. can i have some? lol |
| john bodega 25.01.2007 03:16 |
"i know music, i have been playing multiple instruments since i was 7 years old and have attended Berkley, and have sang in Quartets since the age of 10 and i have also been a vocal coach, and let's see, hmmm, and have had music training since the age of 5 when i started piano" Would you like a medal? It's okay, you don't need to bring a CV to put down someone who says 'Freddie could sing in 8 octaves'..... They've already shot themselves down, really. |
| theCro 25.01.2007 03:50 |
let's get back to the subject of the topic |
| teleman 25.01.2007 04:00 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: *sits back with popcorn, and watches*I never thought Special Olympics could be entertaining. Everyone gets a prize. Octave of 8 range gets extra points ROFL |
| john bodega 25.01.2007 04:41 |
theCro wrote: let's get back to the subject of the topicLet's not. It's not even a discussion. So Freddie Mercury never said into a mic 'Paul Rodgers is my hero'. Maybe he liked him, maybe he didn't.. big fucking deal. It's unfortunate, but the words of a dead man don't really have any bearing on anything. The Q+PR thing will happen, whether or not we like it.... just go find something else to listen to if it doesn't please you. |
| Crezchi 25.01.2007 05:22 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "i know music, i have been playing multiple instruments since i was 7 years old and have attended Berkley, and have sang in Quartets since the age of 10 and i have also been a vocal coach, and let's see, hmmm, and have had music training since the age of 5 when i started piano" Would you like a medal? It's okay, you don't need to bring a CV to put down someone who says 'Freddie could sing in 8 octaves'..... They've already shot themselves down, really.Would you like a medal also? I was merely pointing out my music background, not bragging or anything of the sort, before you jump on me, be very prepared. I was not putting anyone down, just telling him to knock off the name calling towards people who know wtf they are talking about. Good day |
| john bodega 25.01.2007 05:41 |
"before you jump on me, be very prepared" Nah I just like the phrase 'would you like a medal'. Really not having a go... I save that for people who don't know what an octave is! |
| Crezchi 25.01.2007 06:08 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "before you jump on me, be very prepared" Nah I just like the phrase 'would you like a medal'. Really not having a go... I save that for people who don't know what an octave is!I kinda like 'would you like a cookie'. lol. Honestly i thought you were being sarcastic. Either way, i will now say that in a varied octave, working my way up to 8 tones just like Freddie. lol. |
| QueenTaylor 25.01.2007 07:33 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "Yeah I know exactly what an octave is dumb ass!! I know for a fact he had an octave of 8. I read it!!!" Do you believe everything you read? I hate to shatter some foundations of your being here, but... you know that Easter Bunny guy? The one that always used to give you eggs as a child? He doesn't exist. I know - it's shocking. But that's not all I have to tell you. You know Santa? Yeah. Him too. It was a guy in a suit. If there's any other fallacies you've believed in *purely* because someone sounded sincere when they said/wrote then, Please let me know!Really...wow your pretty stupid...anyway..I'm really not interested in this forum becuase all of you people who claim your really "Queen fans" are not!!! Alls I know is Freddie had TALENT...and theres now way I'm going to stop saying that |
| john bodega 25.01.2007 07:49 |
"Really...wow your pretty stupid...anyway.." But I still know what an octave is. I'll always have that over you :P "I'm really not interested in this forum becuase all of you people who claim your really "Queen fans" are not!!! Alls I know is Freddie had TALENT...and theres now way I'm going to stop saying that" Maybe I missed it - but *no one* in the thread said Freddie didn't have talent. They said he didn't have an 8 octave voice. Which he didn't. At no point in his career did Freddie put tones onto tape that registered in 8 separate octaves. Please - go and walk over to a piano. If you play all the notes in 8 octaves, you'll realise how ridiculous an assertion it is that Freddie Mercury had that range. |
| thomasquinn 32989 25.01.2007 09:31 |
If we were to just shoot all these stepfords who can't cope with change, this world would be so much nicer...not to mention less crowded by far. |
| john bodega 25.01.2007 10:41 |
Think of all the bullets though. |
| theCro 25.01.2007 12:55 |
Zebonka12, we will really give you medal for your acchievement ! rofl |
| thomasquinn 32989 25.01.2007 14:41 |
taylormad101 wrote:8 octaves would be a grand piano. That is physically impossible. Please; if you read that (which I doubt), it was written by the one person on this planet with even less of a brain than you.Zebonka12 wrote: "If by fan you mean someone who's about to teach you a lesson, then yes I'm your biggest fan." Scaaaaaaaaaaary. "A Certificate in music from TAFE? Wow" If by Wow you mean I get to spend 11 months doing something I really love with frickin' awesome lecturers... Fuck! You're right to be impressed! I'm still waiting for my lesson, you yokel :) "Nobody has Freddie's range! He had an octive of 8 for gods sake!!!!!" No he didn't. Do you know what an octave is?Yeah I know exactly what an octave is dumb ass!! I know for a fact he had an octave of 8. I read it!!! |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 25.01.2007 16:12 |
LMAO. . . |
| Gratzi 25.01.2007 16:17 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:Indeed a grand piano. Mariah Carey has 'only' 5 & a half I believe - that would be the greatest voice in showbiz... & she's a woman... imagine a man trying that... ( only 5 maximum - a dude from Romania who participated at Eurovision last year)taylormad101 wrote:8 octaves would be a grand piano. That is physically impossible. Please; if you read that (which I doubt), it was written by the one person on this planet with even less of a brain than you.Zebonka12 wrote: "If by fan you mean someone who's about to teach you a lesson, then yes I'm your biggest fan." Scaaaaaaaaaaary. "A Certificate in music from TAFE? Wow" If by Wow you mean I get to spend 11 months doing something I really love with frickin' awesome lecturers... Fuck! You're right to be impressed! I'm still waiting for my lesson, you yokel :) "Nobody has Freddie's range! He had an octive of 8 for gods sake!!!!!" No he didn't. Do you know what an octave is?Yeah I know exactly what an octave is dumb ass!! I know for a fact he had an octave of 8. I read it!!! |
| The Real Wizard 26.01.2007 17:31 |
Crezchi wrote:Only if you sing a 7-octave major scale for me. If Freddie can do 8, then surely you can do 7.Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: *sits back with popcorn, and watches*LOL. can i have some? lol |
| Crezchi 26.01.2007 18:47 |
Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:lol Bob, you kill me everytime. lolCrezchi wrote:Only if you sing a 7-octave major scale for me. If Freddie can do 8, then surely you can do 7.Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: *sits back with popcorn, and watches*LOL. can i have some? lol |