| Sherwood Forest 21.01.2007 18:32 |
can someone shed some light on the Queen vs. U2 or Freddie vs. Bono situation. Whenever i hear people on QZ talking about Queen and u2 its pretty negative or something. Is it just a matter of those people's opinions or was something said a while back |
| Penetration_Guru 21.01.2007 18:41 |
People just have their opinions. Occasionally some not-too-bright spark tries to extrapolate mutual antagonism between the relevant subjects. |
| Sebastian 21.01.2007 20:17 |
U2 are nice songwriters, but only average performers (except Bono). The Edge is for me much more a sound engineer (or something like than) than a guitarist. |
| Jan78 21.01.2007 21:02 |
I like U2, because I like music to have a minimum amount of brain. That's why I also like Iron Maiden. But U2 can do wrong. I so don't want to listen to a lot of their songs because they're plain boring. Most of these songs are on ATYCLB and Passengers. But Achtung Baby is still one of the best records they made. Now did U2 and Queen have any relationship? The closest you get to it is maybe link where Brian says that he's proud to be in a U2 video, even if it's sort of home made or whatever. What Freddie thought about Bono, I don't know, I'm sure he took notice of U2 around 87/88 when they got big, but I can't imagine he particularly cared. U2 in return might surely drop the average statement about Queen being a great influence and great musicians and blabla, if you seriously asked them in an interview. Jan |
| Winter Land Man 21.01.2007 21:14 |
I think the person is referring to the time Freddie kicked Bono's ass backstage at LIVE AID... |
| Jan78 21.01.2007 21:25 |
Myth, I'm sure. Freddie had a good time meeting Elton, George Michael, Bowie and others when they weren't able to go straight back home after the show. Why would he bother pinning Bono against the wall. They had minor popularity back then with War and The Unforgettable Fire. They spent most of their Live Aid set playing Bad which went on forever...I absolutely can't imagine Freddie even noticing him much. An Irish band being political and religious with their music, waving white flags and whatnot. He liked Prince and Aretha Franklin etc... I'm 99% sure it is indeed a myth. Jan |
| Ruiiii 21.01.2007 21:35 |
I really like u2. but i must say i prefer that activist sociopolitical rock from the begining. u2 are great. in my opinion the were the follow up of queen in international sucess. But hey!!!! it's just an opinion!!! |
| Ruiiii 21.01.2007 21:35 |
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| Sebastian 21.01.2007 22:13 |
And Freddie shared a mic with Bono and Geldof on Live Aid finale, then with Bono and Sir Paul some seconds later... |
| junketerQ2 22.01.2007 02:38 |
According to Bono in the recently released "U2 By U2" book, Feddie baled Bono up backstage at Live Aid & asked him how "Bono" was pronounced & made some comment about how he thought that all the newer singers at that time just shouted but Bono could sing alright, or at least something like that. Bono also thought Freddie was way campy. I like U2 alot & think they put on an awesome live show. The music is mostly good & i have alot of respect for their beliefs. By the way, don't go knocking Bono until you have read the book "Bono On Bono" by Michka Assayas! |
| i-Fred 22.01.2007 06:27 |
junketerQ2 wrote: According to Bono in the recently released "U2 By U2" book, Feddie baled Bono up backstage at Live Aid & asked him how "Bono" was pronounced & made some comment about how he thought that all the newer singers at that time just shouted but Bono could sing alright, or at least something like that. Bono also thought Freddie was way campy. I like U2 alot & think they put on an awesome live show. The music is mostly good & i have alot of respect for their beliefs. By the way, don't go knocking Bono until you have read the book "Bono On Bono" by Michka Assayas!I aint knocking on him,,, but whats so good about the book? |
| dougie 22.01.2007 07:14 |
Let's not forget that U2 sent flowers when Freddie passed away. Also, when U2 was touring in support of the Joshua Tree, Roger claimed that U2 was his "favorite band . . . at the moment." I've never seen Freddie quoted concerning U2. I bet he WOULD have said something like, "They have their audience and have been very successful, but that's not what we do, my dear." Queen and U2 have very different artistic styles. Queen had brilliant musicianship and loved to show it off, with a wink and a nod. U2's music is more personal, earnest and from the heart, with wonderful lyrics. I think even the very defensive Brian May would admit that Queen's lyrics don't measure up. Funny thing is though, their careers have had parallel paths. Their four-member lineups never changed since recording studio albums; their live albums were kind of slagged (Live Killers and Rattle and Hum) - undeservedly IMO; their biggest hit albums (The Game and Achtung Baby) were followed by clunkers(Hot Space and Zooropa/Pop); and they both played it relatively safe ever since those clunkers. |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 22.01.2007 09:19 |
I don't know if you want to restrict this thread to the Freddie Mercury era, but Bono and The Edge took part in 46664 South Africa, where Bono even sung "Amandla", a Queen+Dave Stewart song. Cheers, Ogre- |
| chazz12345 22.01.2007 09:35 |
ya u2 used we will rock you on one of their tours. they dont hate eachother, but its obvious they have different styles. personally i think u2 are what queen would have been today (staying together for 30yrs and still big!) u2 songs are great, but would i listen to a whole u2 album - NO. Their individual songs are great but overall they sound roughly the same. i guess thats why i like queen - they're diverse. |
| Katicas..(L) 22.01.2007 11:14 |
the only song i like by u2 is probaly the saints are coming they did with green day. |
| Kevin Spacey 22.01.2007 11:27 |
there and back again... |
| Bob-Plant 22.01.2007 11:59 |
azzadude wrote: I just dont like U2. To over rated. It seems they cant do no wrong. Has nothing to do with my liking for Queen.Exactly. The way Rolling Stone promotes them you'd think they were on their payroll. Every album is 5 stars, Bono is the second coming, blah blah blah... |
| sexmachine 22.01.2007 12:39 |
Sebastian wrote: U2 are nice songwriters, but only average performers (except Bono). The Edge is for me much more a sound engineer (or something like than) than a guitarist.i don´t agree at all. i think u2 are the greatest stadium-live band with the best and most satisfying performance in the last 10 years and the edge is (next to johnny marr) the greatest and most influential guitar player from the 80s post punk era. |
| Bono Mercury 22.01.2007 13:50 |
U2 are one of my favourite bands as far as i know U2 and Queen had the greatest respect for each other like ye all said Freddie and Bono shared a mic at Live Aid Brian May said The Edge is one of the best guitar players in the world plus in one of the U2 books Bono played a tribute to Freddie saying what a cool guy he was in one of their concerts he was playing with the band.they also sent flowers to Freddie's funerel and they played at the Freddie Mercury tribute via satellite.I dont know was it live or recorded but it was a great effort of will to pay tribute to one of rocks finest. Ithink Queen And U2 are the best bands in the world ever. So there |
| Sherwood Forest 22.01.2007 17:39 |
i think probably if Queen were still rocking now there would be a little competition between the two. I do like u2 and thats why it bothered me to think my two favorite bands might have hated eachother. I did see that u2 comment on brian's website but i was also wondering about Freddie's realtionship with Bono but now i can see that it was a rumor and not fact. Thank you! |
| claudiox 22.01.2007 18:14 |
my opinion is that bono is an awesome performer, both live and in studio. I also appreciate u2, but sometimes they're boring in my opinion. 'bout queen i don't spend more words.... they're my guide! I really much appreciated the notice that u2 played a snippet of wwry into vertigo at Aukland (sorry if i'm wrong with Aukland) last year. They were very classful guys! Last but not least I don't understand when find here and there any apathy between q & u2 fans. I don't agree: both queen and u2 are pop/rock band that plays song to entertain people and against violence and rage. bye Cla |
| Mr.Jingles 22.01.2007 18:21 |
I think Freddie mentioned once that U2 were too political. Good thing for him he was already dead when Rage Against The Machine came out. |
| Mr.Jingles 22.01.2007 18:26 |
knebworth wrote:Personally I think that Green Day and Muse are capable of putting better live shows than U2. After attending live shows for those 3 bands, I have to say that U2 are still very strong but there are better bands out there.Sebastian wrote: U2 are nice songwriters, but only average performers (except Bono). The Edge is for me much more a sound engineer (or something like than) than a guitarist.i don´t agree at all. i think u2 are the greatest stadium-live band with the best and most satisfying performance in the last 10 years and the edge is (next to johnny marr) the greatest and most influential guitar player from the 80s post punk era. |
| Saif 23.01.2007 07:08 |
U2 is okay...yeah, the only U2 song I like is their cover of "The Saints Are Coming" with Green Day. Believe me, I've listened to everything from "Beautiful Day" to "With or Without You" and didn't like even one of them...I haven't seen their live shows so I don't know what kind of performer Bono is, but I don't like him. Their lyrics are nothing compared to Queen, IMO. You can have your own opinions. Just like Queen's lyrics are nothing compared to Bob Dylan's...but that's a fact. :P I don't know about any Queen-U2 rivalry but I bet Bono knows Freddie was better than him. And Brian May is 100x better than "The Edge", and this is true even if you don't like Queen. Bono is basically one of those self-important dudes who don't want to admit any influence from other bands. |
| Mr.Jingles 23.01.2007 09:24 |
I have to admit that Queen weren't the best lyric writers out there, and the only one who might come up with deep and meaningful lyrics was Brian May. The other 3 rarely had any moments of lyrical inspiration. I'm not saying that the 4 members of Queen were dreadful lyricists (there are worse), but we have to admit that they had some quite embarassing moments. Although Bono writes the majority of the lyrics for U2 songs, he's not quite safe either. 'Elevation' for instance has some of the most atrocious lyrics anyone would have come up with ("A mole diggin' in a hole"). Yet, the song itself has become an important part of U2's recent live shows for it's mass appeal as a strong song to play live. If it's for the sake of fun and kicking ass on stage, then fuck the lyrics. |
| Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 23.01.2007 17:04 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: I have to admit that Queen weren't the best lyric writers out there, and the only one who might come up with deep and meaningful lyrics was Brian May. The other 3 rarely had any moments of lyrical inspiration.I don't want even to comment it. It's a bullshit! To my opinion, U2 is nothing. I like two-three songs. But because of melodies. Aranged bad for me. They are not highly skilled musicians. I had seen one of the last their concert (on TV) and there were so little MUSIC in that... They are like FOUR DJ's. For about 5 minutes Bono was 'singing'(saying) "No war, world for peace, ..." or something like that... |
| Oberon 23.01.2007 17:17 |
i saw u2 live at Earls Court for the Elevation tour and they were excellent. You can't really compare the two bands as their approach is different on most levels - musically, lyrically and thematically. I love Queen, I like U2. I think Bono might have had something to say about the Queen concerts in Sun City didn't he? |
| Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 23.01.2007 17:24 |
Oberon wrote: i saw u2 live at Earls Court for the Elevation tour and they were excellent. You can't really compare the two bands as their approach is different on most levels - musically, lyrically and thematically. I love Queen, I like U2. I think Bono might have had something to say about the Queen concerts in Sun City didn't he?Exact, Oberon. Two diiferent approaches. I don't understand this kind of approaches. As azzadude said "too over rated". Too much for me. |
| breakthru1989 23.01.2007 18:31 |
i like u2 a lot too. but QUEEN is very far better. most u2 songs come from bono. with QUEEN they all 4 did their contribution. no u2 song can match to BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY. in the 80s u2 were great with streets,havent foud sunday,bad,pride,all i want is you. u2 did play with an orchestra fire + all i want. deliver great shows. make good videoclips look at streets,1987 make an song with an opera singer. the first u2 singles were no hits. had the stupid zoo TV at their 90s gigs. queen made soul and disco with HOT SPACE in 1982 when DISCO was already out of fasion. in 1997 u2 made the horrible POP album with HOUSE influences. i can’t hear the U2 POP SHIT. they return to their roots in 2000. quenn did that with a kind of magic in 1986. 30 years the same 4 u2 members. 20 years the same 4 queen members. how to dismantle is very good U2 album. nearly so good as the unforgettable fire 1984 and the joshua tree 1987. can’t wait to hear a new u2 record. u2 and queen are still fighting AIDS around the world. i like to hear u2 playing the invisible man live i like the new u2 single window in the skies,07 |
| Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 23.01.2007 19:05 |
I like your signature, breakthru1989! |
| Saif 23.01.2007 21:39 |
breakthru1989 wrote: i like u2 a lot too. but QUEEN is very far better. most u2 songs come from bono. with QUEEN they all 4 did their contribution. no u2 song can match to BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY. in the 80s u2 were great with streets,havent foud sunday,bad,pride,all i want is you. u2 did play with an orchestra fire + all i want. deliver great shows. make good videoclips look at streets,1987 make an song with an opera singer. the first u2 singles were no hits. had the stupid zoo TV at their 90s gigs. queen made soul and disco with HOT SPACE in 1982 when DISCO was already out of fasion. in 1997 u2 made the horrible POP album with HOUSE influences. i can’t hear the U2 POP SHIT. they return to their roots in 2000. quenn did that with a kind of magic in 1986. 30 years the same 4 u2 members. 20 years the same 4 queen members. how to dismantle is very good U2 album. nearly so good as the unforgettable fire 1984 and the joshua tree 1987. can’t wait to hear a new u2 record. u2 and queen are still fighting AIDS around the world. i like to hear u2 playing the invisible man live i like the new u2 single window in the skies,07Nice poem. |
| john bodega 24.01.2007 00:02 |
Saif wrote:It's by John Masefield, I think?breakthru1989 wrote: i like u2 a lot too. but QUEEN is very far better. most u2 songs come from bono. with QUEEN they all 4 did their contribution. no u2 song can match to BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY. in the 80s u2 were great with streets,havent foud sunday,bad,pride,all i want is you. u2 did play with an orchestra fire + all i want. deliver great shows. make good videoclips look at streets,1987 make an song with an opera singer. the first u2 singles were no hits. had the stupid zoo TV at their 90s gigs. queen made soul and disco with HOT SPACE in 1982 when DISCO was already out of fasion. in 1997 u2 made the horrible POP album with HOUSE influences. i can’t hear the U2 POP SHIT. they return to their roots in 2000. quenn did that with a kind of magic in 1986. 30 years the same 4 u2 members. 20 years the same 4 queen members. how to dismantle is very good U2 album. nearly so good as the unforgettable fire 1984 and the joshua tree 1987. can’t wait to hear a new u2 record. u2 and queen are still fighting AIDS around the world. i like to hear u2 playing the invisible man live i like the new u2 single window in the skies,07Nice poem. |
| Bo Alex 26.01.2007 14:10 |
U2 can't be compared with Queen in any way. Queen is miles away. That guy called The Edge can't play a fuckin' solo on his "poppy sound" guitar. And Bono sings like a dog and he is a demogogue. I can't understand how they are worldwide famous. Totally overrated in my opinion. Sorry for my poor english. |
| Bono Mercury 26.01.2007 14:34 |
Bo Alex wrote: U2 can't be compared with Queen in any way. Queen is miles away. That guy called The Edge can't play a fuckin' solo on his "poppy sound" guitar. And Bono sings like a dog and he is a demogogue. I can't understand how they are worldwide famous. Totally overrated in my opinion. Sorry for my poor english.Why do you think there concerts are sellouts then well so they must be in fact i think they are great. |
| Winter Land Man 26.01.2007 14:46 |
Bono Mercury wrote:Britney Spears and Hilary Duff have sell out concerts as well.Bo Alex wrote: U2 can't be compared with Queen in any way. Queen is miles away. That guy called The Edge can't play a fuckin' solo on his "poppy sound" guitar. And Bono sings like a dog and he is a demogogue. I can't understand how they are worldwide famous. Totally overrated in my opinion. Sorry for my poor english.Why do you think there concerts are sellouts then well so they must be in fact i think they are great. |
| Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 26.01.2007 22:54 |
Bo Alex wrote: U2 can't be compared with Queen in any way. Queen is miles away. That guy called The Edge can't play a fuckin' solo on his "poppy sound" guitar. And Bono sings like a dog and he is a demogogue. I can't understand how they are worldwide famous. Totally overrated in my opinion. Sorry for my poor english.I'm with you, Alex! I cannot say better. |
| ***Marial-B*** 27.01.2007 04:38 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: I think Freddie mentioned once that U2 were too political. Good thing for him he was already dead when Rage Against The Machine came out.Or SOAD :P BTW... Where's Raf???? You should speak here bro!!! |
| Raf 27.01.2007 05:12 |
<font color=#CC66CC>Marial-B wrote:This thread is pointless. Queen and U2 are pratically unrelated.Mr.Jingles wrote: I think Freddie mentioned once that U2 were too political. Good thing for him he was already dead when Rage Against The Machine came out.Or SOAD :P BTW... Where's Raf???? You should speak here bro!!! We all know there are no "problems" between them, they worked together on the Live Aid, U2 sent a song by satellite link to the FM Tribute gig, Bono and Queen worked on the 46664 gig, U2 featured a snippet of Queen at the Rainbow on their new video, and Brian wrote a note on his Soapbox last Sunday being all nice about U2 and Bono. So I thought I wouldn't waste my time on another thread where I knew there would be idiots bashing U2 and Bono. And no, I don't consider anyone who dislikes U2 an idiot. But people who say they "hate" U2 are a bunch of idiots. If you don't like the band, fine, shut the fuck up and don't bash them on every chance, there are people who like them. |
| Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II 27.01.2007 10:18 |
Raf840, don't take offence at my posts. I never said 'I hate' - I don't like. By the way, I usually met people who if liked U2 didn't like Queen. |
| thomasquinn 32989 27.01.2007 10:41 |
Sebastian wrote: U2 are nice songwriters, but only average performers (except Bono). The Edge is for me much more a sound engineer (or something like than) than a guitarist.Bono is a good performer, but not a good singer. I agree with your views on The Edge. The bassist and drummer *could* be worth something, if they'd be able to do something more than play what the first two tell 'em to. |
| Mr.Jingles 29.01.2007 12:12 |
<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:Bono is a good (yet not great singer).Sebastian wrote: U2 are nice songwriters, but only average performers (except Bono). The Edge is for me much more a sound engineer (or something like than) than a guitarist.Bono is a good performer, but not a good singer. I agree with your views on The Edge. The bassist and drummer *could* be worth something, if they'd be able to do something more than play what the first two tell 'em to. As long as he stays within his vocal range, Bono is OK. The problem with Bono is that when he starts attempting falsettos and high notes that he clearly can NOT hit, then he sounds like shit. Just listen to 'The Sweetest Thing'. |